If they are really so desperate to bring back Rey full force, how about at the very least win some fans over to her? The way I'd do it would be through an Avatar-like TV show with Rey, Poe and Finn going on some wild shenanigans together between the movies. Considering how good chemistry Isaac and Boyega shared in TFA, you can only imagine the potential for both humor and genuine character growth. I mean Christ, this really could work out! And not jeopardize Disney's three years' total budget.
If some of the inside reports are to be believed, Filoni carries much bigger a weight at LucasFilm than we give him credit for and it was in fact him who was behind some of their more baffling moves, but this good cop/bad cop routine is useful to placate some fans so they keep it up. At the very least, he was reportedly in total control over Ahsoka and we know how that turned out.
I think we cleared five the moment they announced Rian Johnson's trilogy because that would be six together with that by D&D... yeah, remember those guys? That's the problem with LucasFilm. They're just so current year in terms of everything, there is no vision for the future. Let's have GoT cast. Let's copy the Marvel formula. And so on.
This is why I believe the rumor that she can't be fired, except for contract violations and legal issues. According to the rumor, it was a stipulation in the sale contract with Disney that Lucas's hand-picked successor could not be fired. This was to prevent Disney from pulling a fast one and replacing or "re-aligning" the Lucasfilm president as soon as the ink on the sale contract was dry. (Obviously, this was from a time when Lucas believed he could trust Kennedy.) Therefore, the only person who can decide when Kennedy is out is herself, and she is increasingly desperate to build herself a legacy she can claim as successful before she fades into retirement and irrelevance.
Mostly rumor, but long story short... she is not allowed to be fired so as long as she is working on a project she can't be fired... she can be let go, but not fired. That is also why she keeps announcing so many projects because an announcement means she is working on a project and it takes time for them to cancel it and confirm that she was talking nonsense. Yet every time she is about to have her contract end... she always gets another product in production that will end AFTER her contract is supposed to end... so she is still working on it thus forcing them to get another more years to be stuck in it.
Is Lucasfilm in ANY touch with the fans? Rey Palpatine is hardly ever talked about and she hardly sells any merchandise. A green muppet baby with no personality is more profitable than Rey.
This is what I don’t get. The president of Hasbro said the sequels merch hasn’t been selling. I never see little girls with Rey stuff or dress up as Rey for anything. They all love Elsa.
@@neomatrix4412 but fans of these properties willingly and eagerly go out of their way to dress as these characters. The fact that there hasn't been an army of Rey's at any given star wars or comics related convention after a decade of popularity is a bit telling that the character doesn't resonate with the core audience.
You know i think if this were an adult baby yoda trilogy set 100+ years beyond Rey's existence we would all be much happier with the idea... It would still be a waste of money as they should really just Retcon the sequels anyways but still.
I don’t know what to believe at this point, I just know that the behind-the-scenes stories are going to be more entertaining than the movies themselves.
@@Valen-mh9fh I mean, calling out people for being an echo chamber whilst being in one yourself I don’t know how you could’ve possibly misread that sentence
Getting into conspiracy theory territory, but I wonder if Disney is constantly throwing money at the problem hoping after 10 years it’ll become popular like the prequels which may be it will be talked about by the kids who grew up with it, but it won’t be praised as flawed but spectacular storytelling Heck I was 10 when TFA came out and the prequels had a better impact on me growing up and I preferred them way better especially after TLJ (god I hate the movie)
Its been five year since that catastrophic The Rise of Skywalker hit the theaters. I remember going into the theaters with almost empty seats and quite the contrast to the audience excitement when I saw the first Star Movies movie at the Chinese Theater back in 1977.
Even with The Force Awakens, people were excited for it. The first new Star Wars movie in many years. I didn't bother with the other two in the trilogy so I don't know how the theaters were for them, but TFA had people going. Even my parents who don't enjoy going to theaters anymore went to it.
It's not just about making people like Rey. Rey is the intentional character that they associate with, like Ahsoka for Filoni. As such, everything they make ultimately has to involve or revolve around that character because they are incapable as creators of letting the character fade away from awareness. Filoni started out with a plan to give Ahsoka a path for growth and development, expecting her to be disliked at the start, and thus made a great character who the fans took to over time. That is the core of why Ahsoka is generally liked while Rey is not. The problem for Filoni is that now he won't move on from her as he creates new projects, and the more he tries to add to Ahsoka the more forced it feels.
Man, if only they'd had a plan... a trilogy about Rey Palpatine, who we and she knows is a Palpatine, would have been a fantastic starting point for the sequel trilogy! A good-natured force user who just wants to help, but also has to overcome her own and everyone else's doubts and assumptions about her lineage. COULD have been a great concept for her character from the start... not tacked on in the last movie because they wrote themselves into a corner
Rey is NOT their ONLY SW asset,there’s a TON of well written characters both male and female via comics,games and novelization,they just REFUSE to use them because it would prove their content is flawed and not up to the standards of the past,pure hubris 🤔
First thing I'd do is reverse that ill-fated move on the EU. Like fine, let them wipe out whatever directly contradicts their poor excuse of canon. By why lose KotOR?
@Valen-mh9fh I don't want them to touch KotOR. But eradicating the EU, especially pre-NJO EU (which was situated ahead of the sequels on the timeline anyway) was such an idiotic way to antagonize hardcore fans from the get-go, there was no bringing them back. Star Wars is not Marvel or DC, you don't just reboot it whenever the current iteration starts getting too crowded for your convenience. This consistency which was maintained so amazingly well until The Clone Wars (which at the very least directly contradicted only one small part of the EU) was what made it stand out among other franchises. I still consider Kevin J. Anderson's Star Wars Chronology to be the turning point which changed me from a kid who loved Star Wars to an actual hardcore fan and hell, this book even triggered my interest in Earth's history in general which continues to this day. And those f**ks flushed all of this down the drain without a moment's hesitation. Not even tried to probe how the fanbase would react. Jesus, what the hell else were they even expecting would follow?
So in the failure of Solo and after the completion of Episode 9, Bob Iger said… “We will take a pause, some time, and reset, because the Skywalker Saga comes to an end with this ninth movie,” Iger said. “There will be other ‘Star Wars’ movies, but there will be a bit of a hiatus.” So they turned their focus on streaming in hopes of resetting the franchise, starting with the Mandalorian, and concluding to some degree with the Acolyte, though there are a few still in the pipeline… And with streaming now petering out, Lucasfilm now turns its attention to the big screen in hopes of resetting the franchise. As someone once said “Again, it’s like poetry, so that they rhyme.” 😔
Thor... I watched the video and listened to your analysis, and realized that despite having been a hardcore fan of 7 of the films, live-action, and animated TV shows, dozens of behind the scenes/making of/art of books and videos, hundreds of novels, games, comics, and toys since the moment I first ventured back a 'long time ago to a galaxy far, far away' as a 10-year-old kid way back in 1977, I just don't care about this latest news. I don't care what movies are being planned (though I think it remains highly unlikely that we'll ever see this trilogy on the big screen). I don't care who's up to write, direct, or produce them, and frankly, I don't care whether Kathleen Kennedy remains president of LucasFilm. Despite years of frustration, disappointment, and pointless hope, I now realize that Disney/LucasFilm has succeeded... they chased me away. I am utterly apathetic about something I once truly loved. Perhaps this was their plan... and my only real regret at this point is not having walked away after the end of Mando season 2. Deep down, *I KNEW* it would never get any better than that moment. Sadly, I now know I was right... and can't help but hear an echo of Luke's words in "Return of the Jedi"; "The Emperor has shown me the true power of the force' - or in this case, their total lack of creativity and care for either the franchise or its fans. As a result, it is impossible to ignore that, at least for me, after nearly 50 years, 'Star Wars is truly dead.'
I am 53 and I completely agree with you. I haven't watched or supported anything they did since they fired Gina Carano. That was my final straw. They fired her for her views and ran a smear campaign against her, yet that nasty little troll Zegeler can say whatever she wants and gets away with it.
I can see how they think, from a purely economic standpoint. A billion dollars is not chump change, almost as much as Deadpool and Wolverine made. Executives must think there is more to be milked. But they aren't reading the room when they think fans want more Rey. Perhaps they are stuck in their Women Rule thinking, which is really not reading the room.
@@kimmccarthy7747 Considering the amount of reshoots that were (allegedly) involved with the movie, I doubt it had much of a profit margin. Especially when you consider the level of marketing it got. A billion dollars box office doesn't sound very impressive when it cost $750M to produce and market the movie.
@@kimmccarthy7747they paid 4bn for LucasFilm and the ST grossed around 4.4bn. Say they netted 50% of that i.e., take out production and marketing costs, then they've made a 1.8bn loss over ten or so years. Not sure many would call that good economics.
My theory is that they want a sort of “middle ground” where they want a soft-reboot for the franchise but still have Rey in it (the rumors said she was gonna be in an Obi-Wan role) to give it some connection to the main saga. They also clearly want to “rehabilitate” the sequels so they can still sell sequel merch and have sequel actors at events like Celebration. They think it’s gonna be like what happened with the prequels, but I’m not too sure about that…
I saw a Captain Midnight video on the Red One film, and after seeing the decisions that were made in that film, I honestly am not surprised that Hollywood is banking on a very unlikely shot. Big budget studios did this in the 1960s with films like Dr. Doolittle (the 1960s musical version), Lost Command, Hello Dolly, and even Cleopatra, films that simply did not resonate with the audience. Even the fact that the Dr. Doolittle film was nominated for a bunch of Oscars even though audiences didn't like it was a giveaway that there was a huge disconnect. We know what happened next--in the 70s, new indie directors such as Spielberg, Lucas, Coppola, and many others spawned new, fresh experiences and franchises such as Star Wars, Indiana Jones, and many, many others. Hopefully we can see something of that sort happen in the coming years!
Alternate Characters from the sequel trilogy: Finn- perfect for a "then and now" story, filled with flashbacks, PTSD, dealing within what happened when he was a Storm Trooper, a little like Tour of Duty series. Really dark, and full of introspection. You know, a movie or series for adults. Poe Dameron- perfect for Rangers of the New Republic. Hotshot, hothead gets assigned to the frontier after a debacle. Learns to lead a bunch of old grunts who have no patience for his impulsive nature but respects his skills . Perfect for a light hearted romp , the main theme would be teaching people to learn to listen to each other.
With all of their obsession about doing Trilogies, I want them to make a Finn/Poe Trilogy where they're just bff's and go on random adventures, stopping some conspiracy or something almost on accident
I think they ruined the character of Finn, and Poe was just uninteresting from the get go to the end, but yea i would watch that over a Rey story for sure..
@@decay79I would watch a trilogy about a force sensitive Porg in the style of "March of the Penguins" over another Rey Trilogy... And I don't say that out of malice I just really have no interest in Rey as a character or her followers in a universe where everyone can use the force untrained.
I'm not the only one who thinks that her eyes look soulless in that picture, am I? There's like no light in them, I had to do a double take to make sure she didn't just have pitch black eyes.
During the premiere of these productions, if they actually do happen, fans will probably be creating their own quality Star Wars content. Especially fans of the Old Republic and the Clone Wars, where there’s always something new in the works, often at very high quality. I wouldn’t be surprised if someone eventually creates a high-quality film. Let’s not deny it; eventually, this will happen, and fan-made content will only continue to grow. (Plus I see a growing trend among fans who prefer waiting for these fan productions rather than whatever Disney releases because here they don't care.) So, round two of Disney’s humiliation? The first time, the Old Republic and its Eternal Empire showed sequels their place, a sentiment that still gets echoed in comments. Who’s next? (And I know that these productions will never be as popular, but it's about quality and a potential alternative for fans tired of Disney's incompetence.)
Sounds like Disney acknowledging that they burned down the franchise with their poorly planned sequels and responded to that in the worst possible way and doubled down on the same mistakes.
_A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away..._ ...lies my interest in seeing any Star Wars made under Disney's current & likely future production umbrella.
What about a Jar Jar trilogy where we get answers to the burning questions about what Jar Jar was doing prior to the events of the Phantom Menace? Meesa wid be awe exited about dat!
I really, desperately hope that KK is leaving, and being an Ex P on this new trilogy is one of her conditions or something, as I hope that the insider was mistaken when saying Disney believes Ray to be “their only asset.” If not than I fear this may be the end for Star Wars…
I am their new target demographic. Someone who was a kid when the ST came out, and who got on board with Star Wars because of it. Let me tell you: they are making their biggest mistake yet.
I'm less inclined to believe something that has been leaked to the trade press, when it seems very likely that LucasFilm itself did the leaking. This is the story they want to put out, but Disney may not agree. I really hope Disney doesn't agree. Your idea that Kennedy's contract wasn't renewed and someone else is going to take charge seems like the most hopeful option overall. Leaking a project to the press might be Kennedy's way of putting pressure on the next person who runs Lucasfilm. They might be loathe to cancel a project that has already been "announced" and put in development, thus insuring she has continued control as a producer even after her contract ends.
I think the toys are a good indication of where the fandom is at. The Original Trilogy spawned nearly fifty years of Star Wars books, comics, video games and toys. This goes for the Prequels as well during their first 25 years. The EP 7 figures did well because it was the first Star Wars movie in 10 years. Ollies still has figures from the Last Jedi that came out in 2017-2018. The Rise of Skywalker was the first movie that didn't have it's own line of toys. Hasbro only produced about 5 figures in the 3 3/4" scale. There weren't many figures made for TROS in the Black Series either. And how many figures have been produced for Episodes 7-9 since 2019. Last year they released a Finn figure. So the answer is One. Now from the Mandalorian how many figures have they made? The answer is a whole lot in both TVC and Black Series. And Grogu merch of all kinds was everywhere for a few years. I honestly can't remember a Star Wars character as mainstream as him since the OT years. So Hasbro seems to know what's popular. Why doesn't KK get it? Now judging by the selection at Ollies even OT and Mando stuff from last year is collecting dust along with a ton of their latest attempt to engage kids with the preschool Jedi Academy line. And on a recent Hasbro earnings report Star Wars was cited for their declining sales. Star Wars interest hasn't yet fallen to how it was in 1986-1991 where their were no toys but it's moving in that direction. So if we go by the toys who is the greatest asset from the Disney era? Is it Rey who hasn't had a new figure since 2019 or is it Mando and Grogu? Toy sales don't lie.
I have a 5 year old, and he has no interest in the preschool Jedi Academy show. His friends don't talk about it, and I haven't seen any kids carrying that merch. He'd rather watch the OT, TPM, and The Mandalorian. His favorite part is where Luke rescues Grogu. *SHRUGS
@patriciaa65 I have a feeling that most kids are more interested in Marvel than SW these days, but I don't really have any firsthand knowledge. What like "brand" or "thing" would you say your kid is most into?
Given what I've seen in the toy audits from various TH-camrs, I think that Disney and Hasbro way overestimated the demand for the Star Wars line: not even rehashes of original Star Wars stuff are necessarily safe. My guess is that part of it is probably that everyone who wants the stuff has it (how many Han Solo action figures do you really need?), and part is that a lot of the toys are based on properties that nobody liked or wanted. Hasbro in particular is, I think, particularly stuck because they've got all this licensed stuff that's not selling and also are messing up their own IP as well like Magic and D&D. But that's a story for another time. I just hope that they fix their trajectory soon or else they won't be producing anything at all (at least not in physical form.)
The only way--the only way--to save Star Wars is for Kennedy to leave, for the sequels to be retconned, and for Lucasfilm to devote all its energies to rehabilitating Luke Skywalker as a character and then telling authentic stories about him following ROTJ. Not repeating the prequel-era Jedi's mistakes, not failing to establish the New Jedi Order, but fulfilling his destiny as Yoda foresaw: passing on what he learned to the next generation of Jedi. None of this can happen so long as Kathleen stays, so as fans, we're all going to stay away from this nonsense. Good luck to them, but if these films actually get made they'll do about the same as Indy V. People are wise to her act and understand this isn't Star Wars, just more self-insert drivel.
Everyone presumes that KK and Disney want to “save” SW. I remain unconvinced. KK will never please the fans, too much has gone wrong and too much has ruined fan interest. So, what’s up with this? Perhaps KK just likes the job and likes to push the wokee, girl-boss agenda. KK doesn’t need the money. If SW falls off the map, KK still has a job and is still worth millions. Has Disney become a jobs program for failed producers? No one in the C-Suite seems concerned with money. Just “image.” This all looks like window dressing to appease Shareholders. Hmmmm…..
I've said the same many times. He was the most interesting character in TFA and had the most potential for a story arc. Rey was a sidenote that they made into the main character.
Any character could work going forward, if the writing is good, if the story is good, if the production values are high, if the director has a vision, and if the producer has a plan. So yes, Rey could work. But with what Disney/Lucas has done over the years we've seen no evidence that anything they'll make in the future would be any better than the sludge they've made so far.
The ONLY thing that would save Star Wars would be for KK to GO, shelf any movie ideas and wait at least five more years before releasing another movie. Then get writers and people who actually know and love Star Wars to come up with a complete story before filming so that there is a clear direction.
just weird tbh. quintupling down on rey only makes sense as kathleen kennedy's last ditch effort to create some kind of legacy, either that or out of pure spite and a last eff you to the fans who disagree with her vision.
Who knows how she'll muck this up, but Tales of the Jedi and the youtube channel Skywalker Stories are both effing brilliant. These are the tales we deserve.
Hey Thor, I saw a quote that I think explains what the Jedi are supposed to be. “Autobots do not inflict harm unless all other options have been exhausted. It is what separates us from the Decepticons.” This is a quote from Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime when he was lecturing his Medic, Ratchet for breaking protocol by doing harm to a Decepticon when none was necessary. Personally, I think this quote fits with what the Jedi are supposed to be as they are taught to only defend themselves or others instead of attacking or killing unarmed opponents, which I think separates them from Sith Lords or Dark-Side Users. I would like to know your thoughts on this quote and this idea in general considering how the Acolyte portrayed the Jedi.
I think one of the big problems is the whole "to bank on" thinking. Let's ignore for now that Rey is absolutely not a character to bank on, Disney should not be dependent on a character to bank on in the first place. They can create new characters and make them bellowed and popular instead of banking on an old one. For a brand like Marvel, it makes sense to mostly use old characters and only sometimes go with new ones, but for Star Wars I think the best move would be to usually use new characters and rely on old characters less than 50% of the time.
Rise of Skywalker wasn’t a disappointment. The first movie in all 3 SW trilogies was the highest grossing movie of the trilogy. The second and third never do as well as the 1st.
This should have been the long term goal all along, to use the sequel trilogy to set up new characters for the future but they didn't do that, they didn't have a plan and they made a mess of everything. Empire was one of the first movies i recall seeing as a kid, I'm not the biggest fan but I've always enjoy SW...even suffering through Jar Jar. I liked Rogue One, I enjoyed A New Hope, I thought Rey was a promising character and I don't hate Daisy Ridley... but I don't really care about SW anymore. I think there's a big difference between how well you can do with the last episode of a trilogy and how well you can do with the start of a following trilogy. For episode 9 you had people invested in the series who wanted to see the end of it, I think a lot of people are not going to bother with a new trilogy unless it's exceptionally good. I'd love for them to create a well planned trilogy with a good story and interesting characters, I just don't think they can do it and especially not with KK at the helm.
„Did I ever tell you what the definition of insanity is? Insanity is doing the exact... same fucking thing... over and over again expecting... shit to change... That. Is. Crazy.“
Good Lord lol. Why does Kathleen Kennedy still have such a hadron collider for Rey? Is it just that she's so arrogant that she can't mentally accept that she is capable of making a mistake? "Am I out of touch? No, it's the vast majority of my audience that is wrong."
Kennedy painted Star Wars into a corner and there is nowhere else to go, but with Rey. They had no plan and it is coming back to bite them big time. Kennedy should have realized this when she gave her directors all the power to write and direct the moves.. at the end, she would be left holding the bag.
It’s too late anyway. Disney/LF COULD have pulled it off a good “handoff” from the Han/Luke/Leia to a set of new characters that could take us forward from there. But they can’t undo what they did to the classic trio and so going forward it’s just not appealing. Plus the more KKs name is mentioned the less im interested. More than I already am.
Not only does kennedy need to leave, but SW needs another big break like between the OT and PT, at least ten years, to kinda start anew. And rey is soooo yesterday's news already. It will never be where all the original fans are gone and disnified SW is as huge as original SW.
Rey the last chance for Star Wars? Sounds more like Kathleen Kennedy is pretending that every other series TANKING is a creative attempt to claim that Rey was the most popular character and thus the only one they should rely upon. Much like claiming taking a car ride from the USA to Europe is a great idea, because you destroyed the nearby airplanes and boats.
I'm tapping out on star wars. I didn't watch acolyte and I won't care to look at anything from them again. Warhammer and helldivers can fill the "space war" want I have.
its also entirely possible that this is a last ditch effort for Kennedy, digging her heels in and saying to disney " all of this stuff has been leaked you fire me there will be a shit storm!"
Please no more Kennedy. Please no more Rey. I am sorry I really don't think she is a character they should focus on. I am hoping for new eras of Star Wars, new characters, etc. Please let us pray no and I will only believe anything on the movie front until I am paying for a seat in the movie theater
It's just a game of chicken between us and Disney now... I think this is one of their "leaks" that they do to gage how the fans feel and honesty I don't think they'll go through with it. However KK isn't leaving anytime soon, stop supplying false hope, it's been made clear she'll leave when she wants to and not a second before lol.
They are delusional. How can anyone like Rey when her story brutally murdered Luke Skywalker. She did nothing to earn our love so she has none. Nothing besides re-doing the sequels will fix Star Wars. I mean the sequel trilogy was the biggest sequel in cinema history and they didn't have a plan. They didn't write a story? They just f'ing winged it. Anyone associated with those movies should have been fired, full stop.
Given the number of film projects that have been canceled over the years, I will believe that these movies are for real when I see them in the theaters.
I lean towards believing that the leaks were a deliberate maneuver to try to back Disney into a corner. “Look at the huge fan reaction, you can’t walk this project back now.” That sort of thing. Whether I’m right or not and whether that plan succeeds or not remains to be to be seen. And what galaxy do you have to be living in to think Ray is the only the only piece Star Wars has left to play?
They are not wrong about Rey being their only asset though. They were backstabbing, bait-and-switching and name-calling the fans for so long they drove all hardcore fans, casuals and even normies away. Shippers & w0kesters (basically the same group) are the only ones left.
The sequel trilogy trio of Rey, Finn, and Poe were also done dirty by the sequel trilogy. The actors were solid and the potential of their characters is quite high, so returning to them is not a bad idea, just one that needs to be built up properly
Wasn't there something about her wanting to retire but only if it's on a high note? A trilogy is going to take I'd say about 7 years without there currently being no official script for the first film. That's a long time. What I'd guess at this point is that there is someone else in charge right now and she is just going to be a producer of upcoming Star Wars films and/or projects. But no, I don't think these exact films will ever get made. She may be a producer, Kinsberg may be the writer or whatever, and Rey may be in them, but I don't think it's going to be the movies they're trying to tell us they are.
To put a twist on an old R.E.M classic "It's the End of the World as We Know It"...and in this case I don't feel fine if Disney has gone all Dunning -Kruger on us.
Darth Kennedy: "Young fools.. only now at the end do you understand... Now witness the power of this fully armed and contractually extended Lucas Film President! Announce the trilogy commander!!" The Fans: That trilogy announcement came from Kennedy!! More fans: I thought she was gone, she's still operational!? Star Wars YT creators: "IT'S A TRAP!!"
At some point, I really hope they do make the Rey movie/trilogy/whatever. Perfect way to finally settle the Sequel popularity debate, and find out if 2015 kids actually will show up…
Spending $300 million on the Acolyte and then thinking the best way to move forward is making a Rey trilogy is a WILD move.
It’s an incredibly stupid move on her part. 🤦♂️ When will they ever learn?
@@theanonymouscritic1710why learn if no one has the balls to actually teach you anything or fire you?
@theanonymouscritic1710 at this point it's more fun to see what disaster they cook up next than actually watch what they put out.
If they are really so desperate to bring back Rey full force, how about at the very least win some fans over to her? The way I'd do it would be through an Avatar-like TV show with Rey, Poe and Finn going on some wild shenanigans together between the movies. Considering how good chemistry Isaac and Boyega shared in TFA, you can only imagine the potential for both humor and genuine character growth.
I mean Christ, this really could work out! And not jeopardize Disney's three years' total budget.
Wasn’t it more like $200?
Everyone knows the best way to save Star Wars is for her to leave
I'll play the Endor Celebration music when that happens.
Can't happen soon enough - yesterday was too late already.
If some of the inside reports are to be believed, Filoni carries much bigger a weight at LucasFilm than we give him credit for and it was in fact him who was behind some of their more baffling moves, but this good cop/bad cop routine is useful to placate some fans so they keep it up. At the very least, he was reportedly in total control over Ahsoka and we know how that turned out.
Somehow Palpatine returned and Kennedy didn't leave.
@@dlxmarksSomehow Kennedy didn't leave.
At this point I think there's been more announced/canceled films than finished films.
By several orders of magnitude.
Probably a good thing....
I think we cleared five the moment they announced Rian Johnson's trilogy because that would be six together with that by D&D... yeah, remember those guys?
That's the problem with LucasFilm. They're just so current year in terms of everything, there is no vision for the future. Let's have GoT cast. Let's copy the Marvel formula. And so on.
Why are they focusing on this and not the dawn of the Jedi movie 🫠
@@ultimateslinger9857 because Rey is KK's self insert
I dont understand how Kennedy still has a job
This is why I believe the rumor that she can't be fired, except for contract violations and legal issues. According to the rumor, it was a stipulation in the sale contract with Disney that Lucas's hand-picked successor could not be fired. This was to prevent Disney from pulling a fast one and replacing or "re-aligning" the Lucasfilm president as soon as the ink on the sale contract was dry. (Obviously, this was from a time when Lucas believed he could trust Kennedy.)
Therefore, the only person who can decide when Kennedy is out is herself, and she is increasingly desperate to build herself a legacy she can claim as successful before she fades into retirement and irrelevance.
She must have Epstein levels of dirt on someone.
Mostly rumor, but long story short... she is not allowed to be fired so as long as she is working on a project she can't be fired... she can be let go, but not fired.
That is also why she keeps announcing so many projects because an announcement means she is working on a project and it takes time for them to cancel it and confirm that she was talking nonsense. Yet every time she is about to have her contract end... she always gets another product in production that will end AFTER her contract is supposed to end... so she is still working on it thus forcing them to get another more years to be stuck in it.
Because of her gender. No-one wants to be responsible for kicking out one of the queens of Hollywood
@@JoRoq1 Does successfully wrecking Star Wars count?
Is Lucasfilm in ANY touch with the fans? Rey Palpatine is hardly ever talked about and she hardly sells any merchandise. A green muppet baby with no personality is more profitable than Rey.
This is what I don’t get. The president of Hasbro said the sequels merch hasn’t been selling. I never see little girls with Rey stuff or dress up as Rey for anything. They all love Elsa.
@patriciaa65 Exactly. In fact, the only time I saw anyone cosplay as Rey was a little girl at a comic con back in 2018.
@@patriciaa65 halloween is over
@@neomatrix4412 but fans of these properties willingly and eagerly go out of their way to dress as these characters. The fact that there hasn't been an army of Rey's at any given star wars or comics related convention after a decade of popularity is a bit telling that the character doesn't resonate with the core audience.
You know i think if this were an adult baby yoda trilogy set 100+ years beyond Rey's existence we would all be much happier with the idea... It would still be a waste of money as they should really just Retcon the sequels anyways but still.
I can't determine if I am exhausted, amused, or apathetic at this point with this circus.
Or maybe a combination of all three. 😂
@@theanonymouscritic1710 You might be right
Disgusted?
Also very possible. But i think im so tired of all this even that is no longer possible. @mickeybunts
It's all the above, it's how most fans feel.
I don’t know what to believe at this point, I just know that the behind-the-scenes stories are going to be more entertaining than the movies themselves.
This is top tier delusion. Their echo chamber must be insane. I love it.
Oh the irony in that statement, I can guarantee you’re in at least 1 right now and don’t even realize it
@@NIX-FLIXwhat do you mean? Do you think these movies will be successful?
@@Valen-mh9fh I mean, calling out people for being an echo chamber whilst being in one yourself
I don’t know how you could’ve possibly misread that sentence
Yes. Because doubling down on past failures is always the best recipe for success. /s
They just keep steering into those icebergs when open seas are within view.
Getting into conspiracy theory territory, but I wonder if Disney is constantly throwing money at the problem hoping after 10 years it’ll become popular like the prequels which may be it will be talked about by the kids who grew up with it, but it won’t be praised as flawed but spectacular storytelling
Heck I was 10 when TFA came out and the prequels had a better impact on me growing up and I preferred them way better especially after TLJ (god I hate the movie)
"It's not about the money, it's about sending a MESSAGE"
That pic of KK in her white suit and smug smile is starting to bring up some sick when I see it these days.
Its been five year since that catastrophic The Rise of Skywalker hit the theaters. I remember going into the theaters with almost empty seats and quite the contrast to the audience excitement when I saw the first Star Movies movie at the Chinese Theater back in 1977.
Even with The Force Awakens, people were excited for it. The first new Star Wars movie in many years. I didn't bother with the other two in the trilogy so I don't know how the theaters were for them, but TFA had people going. Even my parents who don't enjoy going to theaters anymore went to it.
God, they're so desperate to make people like Rey. It be funny, if it weren't pathetic.
It's not just about making people like Rey. Rey is the intentional character that they associate with, like Ahsoka for Filoni. As such, everything they make ultimately has to involve or revolve around that character because they are incapable as creators of letting the character fade away from awareness.
Filoni started out with a plan to give Ahsoka a path for growth and development, expecting her to be disliked at the start, and thus made a great character who the fans took to over time. That is the core of why Ahsoka is generally liked while Rey is not. The problem for Filoni is that now he won't move on from her as he creates new projects, and the more he tries to add to Ahsoka the more forced it feels.
@@JoRoq1 I love Ahsoka...give me more...and it doesn't feel forced to me at all.
It be funny if ti eren't drawing around in the mud one of the best sagas ever made... :/
Ahh what the heck I'll laugh anyway Haaahaahahahahaaaaa
It's hilarious that this video came out 2 hours before they announced the December 2026 SW movie is no longer coming out that day😂
Crap. Won’t ever watch Rey Mary sue palpatine. Ever.
Man, if only they'd had a plan... a trilogy about Rey Palpatine, who we and she knows is a Palpatine, would have been a fantastic starting point for the sequel trilogy!
A good-natured force user who just wants to help, but also has to overcome her own and everyone else's doubts and assumptions about her lineage.
COULD have been a great concept for her character from the start... not tacked on in the last movie because they wrote themselves into a corner
Rey is NOT their ONLY SW asset,there’s a TON of well written characters both male and female via comics,games and novelization,they just REFUSE to use them because it would prove their content is flawed and not up to the standards of the past,pure hubris 🤔
First thing I'd do is reverse that ill-fated move on the EU. Like fine, let them wipe out whatever directly contradicts their poor excuse of canon. By why lose KotOR?
At this point I don't want them to touch any of it because I know they'll ruin it.
@@yarpen26I wouldn't want them to ruin KoToR. Hopefully the original writers have told them they cannot use it without strict creative controls.
@Valen-mh9fh I don't want them to touch KotOR. But eradicating the EU, especially pre-NJO EU (which was situated ahead of the sequels on the timeline anyway) was such an idiotic way to antagonize hardcore fans from the get-go, there was no bringing them back. Star Wars is not Marvel or DC, you don't just reboot it whenever the current iteration starts getting too crowded for your convenience. This consistency which was maintained so amazingly well until The Clone Wars (which at the very least directly contradicted only one small part of the EU) was what made it stand out among other franchises. I still consider Kevin J. Anderson's Star Wars Chronology to be the turning point which changed me from a kid who loved Star Wars to an actual hardcore fan and hell, this book even triggered my interest in Earth's history in general which continues to this day.
And those f**ks flushed all of this down the drain without a moment's hesitation. Not even tried to probe how the fanbase would react. Jesus, what the hell else were they even expecting would follow?
So in the failure of Solo and after the completion of Episode 9, Bob Iger said… “We will take a pause, some time, and reset, because the Skywalker Saga comes to an end with this ninth movie,” Iger said. “There will be other ‘Star Wars’ movies, but there will be a bit of a hiatus.”
So they turned their focus on streaming in hopes of resetting the franchise, starting with the Mandalorian, and concluding to some degree with the Acolyte, though there are a few still in the pipeline…
And with streaming now petering out, Lucasfilm now turns its attention to the big screen in hopes of resetting the franchise.
As someone once said “Again, it’s like poetry, so that they rhyme.” 😔
Thor... I watched the video and listened to your analysis, and realized that despite having been a hardcore fan of 7 of the films, live-action, and animated TV shows, dozens of behind the scenes/making of/art of books and videos, hundreds of novels, games, comics, and toys since the moment I first ventured back a 'long time ago to a galaxy far, far away' as a 10-year-old kid way back in 1977, I just don't care about this latest news. I don't care what movies are being planned (though I think it remains highly unlikely that we'll ever see this trilogy on the big screen). I don't care who's up to write, direct, or produce them, and frankly, I don't care whether Kathleen Kennedy remains president of LucasFilm. Despite years of frustration, disappointment, and pointless hope, I now realize that Disney/LucasFilm has succeeded... they chased me away. I am utterly apathetic about something I once truly loved. Perhaps this was their plan... and my only real regret at this point is not having walked away after the end of Mando season 2. Deep down, *I KNEW* it would never get any better than that moment. Sadly, I now know I was right... and can't help but hear an echo of Luke's words in "Return of the Jedi"; "The Emperor has shown me the true power of the force' - or in this case, their total lack of creativity and care for either the franchise or its fans. As a result, it is impossible to ignore that, at least for me, after nearly 50 years, 'Star Wars is truly dead.'
I am 53 and I completely agree with you. I haven't watched or supported anything they did since they fired Gina Carano. That was my final straw. They fired her for her views and ran a smear campaign against her, yet that nasty little troll Zegeler can say whatever she wants and gets away with it.
It makes no real sense but that's the current Disney for you.
I can see how they think, from a purely economic standpoint. A billion dollars is not chump change, almost as much as Deadpool and Wolverine made. Executives must think there is more to be milked. But they aren't reading the room when they think fans want more Rey. Perhaps they are stuck in their Women Rule thinking, which is really not reading the room.
@@kimmccarthy7747hard to believe when reports say Disney hasn't managed to break even on the purchase of Lucas film
@@kimmccarthy7747 Considering the amount of reshoots that were (allegedly) involved with the movie, I doubt it had much of a profit margin. Especially when you consider the level of marketing it got. A billion dollars box office doesn't sound very impressive when it cost $750M to produce and market the movie.
@@kimmccarthy7747they paid 4bn for LucasFilm and the ST grossed around 4.4bn. Say they netted 50% of that i.e., take out production and marketing costs, then they've made a 1.8bn loss over ten or so years.
Not sure many would call that good economics.
My theory is that they want a sort of “middle ground” where they want a soft-reboot for the franchise but still have Rey in it (the rumors said she was gonna be in an Obi-Wan role) to give it some connection to the main saga.
They also clearly want to “rehabilitate” the sequels so they can still sell sequel merch and have sequel actors at events like Celebration. They think it’s gonna be like what happened with the prequels, but I’m not too sure about that…
Does Disney and Lucasfilm know what a sunk cost fallacy is? Because I don't think they do...
Kathy, Lucasfilm as a whole, Disney: "Could I be so out of touch? ...No, it's the fans who are wrong."
Thor, Star Wars is not in a slump it has burned down to cinders
At this point Star Wars is a corpse and Lucasfilm is desperately trying to resuscitate it by turning it into a zombie
@@DarthVoxynthey aren’t trying to resuscitate though.
They’re selling tickets to watch them parade the corpse around.
"It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for them."
I saw a Captain Midnight video on the Red One film, and after seeing the decisions that were made in that film, I honestly am not surprised that Hollywood is banking on a very unlikely shot. Big budget studios did this in the 1960s with films like Dr. Doolittle (the 1960s musical version), Lost Command, Hello Dolly, and even Cleopatra, films that simply did not resonate with the audience. Even the fact that the Dr. Doolittle film was nominated for a bunch of Oscars even though audiences didn't like it was a giveaway that there was a huge disconnect.
We know what happened next--in the 70s, new indie directors such as Spielberg, Lucas, Coppola, and many others spawned new, fresh experiences and franchises such as Star Wars, Indiana Jones, and many, many others. Hopefully we can see something of that sort happen in the coming years!
Alternate Characters from the sequel trilogy: Finn- perfect for a "then and now" story, filled with flashbacks, PTSD, dealing within what happened when he was a Storm Trooper, a little like Tour of Duty series. Really dark, and full of introspection. You know, a movie or series for adults. Poe Dameron- perfect for Rangers of the New Republic. Hotshot, hothead gets assigned to the frontier after a debacle. Learns to lead a bunch of old grunts who have no patience for his impulsive nature but respects his skills . Perfect for a light hearted romp , the main theme would be teaching people to learn to listen to each other.
With all of their obsession about doing Trilogies, I want them to make a Finn/Poe Trilogy where they're just bff's and go on random adventures, stopping some conspiracy or something almost on accident
that won’t happen because they’re testosterone enhanced 🤔
I think they ruined the character of Finn, and Poe was just uninteresting from the get go to the end, but yea i would watch that over a Rey story for sure..
Somehow Finn and Poe foil a First Order plot.
@@decay79I would watch a trilogy about a force sensitive Porg in the style of "March of the Penguins" over another Rey Trilogy...
And I don't say that out of malice I just really have no interest in Rey as a character or her followers in a universe where everyone can use the force untrained.
“Star Wars: Episode X, The Final Mistake.” Thor, I think you have given SW its next (and likely last) title.
I can't help but cringe when I see KK's awkward grin. It perfectly says it all about what she really is.
Kathleen palpatine
Kennedy is like The Bug in Men In Black : a gross critter from another world masquerading as a human being brewing unrest on a galactic scale.
She’s obviously a lizard person
South Park was right once again 😂
I'm not the only one who thinks that her eyes look soulless in that picture, am I? There's like no light in them, I had to do a double take to make sure she didn't just have pitch black eyes.
I heard "Somehow, Kathleen Kennedy returned"...?
During the premiere of these productions, if they actually do happen, fans will probably be creating their own quality Star Wars content. Especially fans of the Old Republic and the Clone Wars, where there’s always something new in the works, often at very high quality. I wouldn’t be surprised if someone eventually creates a high-quality film.
Let’s not deny it; eventually, this will happen, and fan-made content will only continue to grow.
(Plus I see a growing trend among fans who prefer waiting for these fan productions rather than whatever Disney releases because here they don't care.)
So, round two of Disney’s humiliation?
The first time, the Old Republic and its Eternal Empire showed sequels their place, a sentiment that still gets echoed in comments. Who’s next?
(And I know that these productions will never be as popular, but it's about quality and a potential alternative for fans tired of Disney's incompetence.)
If it seems incredibly stupid, Disney will do it.
Sounds like Disney acknowledging that they burned down the franchise with their poorly planned sequels and responded to that in the worst possible way and doubled down on the same mistakes.
_A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away..._
...lies my interest in seeing any Star Wars made under Disney's current & likely future production umbrella.
She has to have ALL the blackmail...
What about a Jar Jar trilogy where we get answers to the burning questions about what Jar Jar was doing prior to the events of the Phantom Menace? Meesa wid be awe exited about dat!
10:08 honestly id hope so. The sooner the franchise dies, the sooner disney will release its rights.
Star Wars official funeral is coming. Pure stupidity! People at Disney are insane if this will be future of Star Wars
I really, desperately hope that KK is leaving, and being an Ex P on this new trilogy is one of her conditions or something, as I hope that the insider was mistaken when saying Disney believes Ray to be “their only asset.”
If not than I fear this may be the end for Star Wars…
I am their new target demographic. Someone who was a kid when the ST came out, and who got on board with Star Wars because of it. Let me tell you: they are making their biggest mistake yet.
This news smells like desperation to me. Like if someone was trying to save their job.
I'm less inclined to believe something that has been leaked to the trade press, when it seems very likely that LucasFilm itself did the leaking. This is the story they want to put out, but Disney may not agree.
I really hope Disney doesn't agree. Your idea that Kennedy's contract wasn't renewed and someone else is going to take charge seems like the most hopeful option overall. Leaking a project to the press might be Kennedy's way of putting pressure on the next person who runs Lucasfilm. They might be loathe to cancel a project that has already been "announced" and put in development, thus insuring she has continued control as a producer even after her contract ends.
I think the toys are a good indication of where the fandom is at. The Original Trilogy spawned nearly fifty years of Star Wars books, comics, video games and toys. This goes for the Prequels as well during their first 25 years.
The EP 7 figures did well because it was the first Star Wars movie in 10 years. Ollies still has figures from the Last Jedi that came out in 2017-2018. The Rise of Skywalker was the first movie that didn't have it's own line of toys. Hasbro only produced about 5 figures in the 3 3/4" scale. There weren't many figures made for TROS in the Black Series either. And how many figures have been produced for Episodes 7-9 since 2019. Last year they released a Finn figure. So the answer is One.
Now from the Mandalorian how many figures have they made? The answer is a whole lot in both TVC and Black Series. And Grogu merch of all kinds was everywhere for a few years. I honestly can't remember a Star Wars character as mainstream as him since the OT years. So Hasbro seems to know what's popular. Why doesn't KK get it?
Now judging by the selection at Ollies even OT and Mando stuff from last year is collecting dust along with a ton of their latest attempt to engage kids with the preschool Jedi Academy line. And on a recent Hasbro earnings report Star Wars was cited for their declining sales. Star Wars interest hasn't yet fallen to how it was in 1986-1991 where their were no toys but it's moving in that direction.
So if we go by the toys who is the greatest asset from the Disney era? Is it Rey who hasn't had a new figure since 2019 or is it Mando and Grogu? Toy sales don't lie.
I have a 5 year old, and he has no interest in the preschool Jedi Academy show. His friends don't talk about it, and I haven't seen any kids carrying that merch. He'd rather watch the OT, TPM, and The Mandalorian. His favorite part is where Luke rescues Grogu. *SHRUGS
@patriciaa65 I have a feeling that most kids are more interested in Marvel than SW these days, but I don't really have any firsthand knowledge. What like "brand" or "thing" would you say your kid is most into?
Given what I've seen in the toy audits from various TH-camrs, I think that Disney and Hasbro way overestimated the demand for the Star Wars line: not even rehashes of original Star Wars stuff are necessarily safe. My guess is that part of it is probably that everyone who wants the stuff has it (how many Han Solo action figures do you really need?), and part is that a lot of the toys are based on properties that nobody liked or wanted.
Hasbro in particular is, I think, particularly stuck because they've got all this licensed stuff that's not selling and also are messing up their own IP as well like Magic and D&D. But that's a story for another time. I just hope that they fix their trajectory soon or else they won't be producing anything at all (at least not in physical form.)
@@spacemanspud7073 Star Wars (OT), Godzilla, Mario, dinosaurs, space, sharks. lol. Science in general too
The only way--the only way--to save Star Wars is for Kennedy to leave, for the sequels to be retconned, and for Lucasfilm to devote all its energies to rehabilitating Luke Skywalker as a character and then telling authentic stories about him following ROTJ. Not repeating the prequel-era Jedi's mistakes, not failing to establish the New Jedi Order, but fulfilling his destiny as Yoda foresaw: passing on what he learned to the next generation of Jedi.
None of this can happen so long as Kathleen stays, so as fans, we're all going to stay away from this nonsense. Good luck to them, but if these films actually get made they'll do about the same as Indy V. People are wise to her act and understand this isn't Star Wars, just more self-insert drivel.
Everyone presumes that KK and Disney want to “save” SW. I remain unconvinced. KK will never please the fans, too much has gone wrong and too much has ruined fan interest. So, what’s up with this? Perhaps KK just likes the job and likes to push the wokee, girl-boss agenda. KK doesn’t need the money. If SW falls off the map, KK still has a job and is still worth millions. Has Disney become a jobs program for failed producers? No one in the C-Suite seems concerned with money. Just “image.” This all looks like window dressing to appease Shareholders. Hmmmm…..
Nothing can survive incompetence of this magnitude!
Finn was done dirty. Had so much potential. Would love to dive into his character more, but not gonna happen apparently.
I've said the same many times. He was the most interesting character in TFA and had the most potential for a story arc. Rey was a sidenote that they made into the main character.
Sunk cost fallacy...
In for a dime, in for a billion dollars as it were...
Honestly after Andor season 2 , it might be a warp for SW for a while.
Any character could work going forward, if the writing is good, if the story is good, if the production values are high, if the director has a vision, and if the producer has a plan. So yes, Rey could work. But with what Disney/Lucas has done over the years we've seen no evidence that anything they'll make in the future would be any better than the sludge they've made so far.
I'm an old school fan, we aren't dead yet 😆 -I'll see it on streaming, maybe🤔. If it even happens.
The ONLY thing that would save Star Wars would be for KK to GO, shelf any movie ideas and wait at least five more years before releasing another movie. Then get writers and people who actually know and love Star Wars to come up with a complete story before filming so that there is a clear direction.
just weird tbh. quintupling down on rey only makes sense as kathleen kennedy's last ditch effort to create some kind of legacy, either that or out of pure spite and a last eff you to the fans who disagree with her vision.
Who knows how she'll muck this up, but Tales of the Jedi and the youtube channel Skywalker Stories are both effing brilliant. These are the tales we deserve.
Hey Thor, I saw a quote that I think explains what the Jedi are supposed to be. “Autobots do not inflict harm unless all other options have been exhausted. It is what separates us from the Decepticons.” This is a quote from Optimus Prime in Transformers: Prime when he was lecturing his Medic, Ratchet for breaking protocol by doing harm to a Decepticon when none was necessary. Personally, I think this quote fits with what the Jedi are supposed to be as they are taught to only defend themselves or others instead of attacking or killing unarmed opponents, which I think separates them from Sith Lords or Dark-Side Users. I would like to know your thoughts on this quote and this idea in general considering how the Acolyte portrayed the Jedi.
I think one of the big problems is the whole "to bank on" thinking. Let's ignore for now that Rey is absolutely not a character to bank on, Disney should not be dependent on a character to bank on in the first place. They can create new characters and make them bellowed and popular instead of banking on an old one. For a brand like Marvel, it makes sense to mostly use old characters and only sometimes go with new ones, but for Star Wars I think the best move would be to usually use new characters and rely on old characters less than 50% of the time.
Yeah, it's all business think. Like picking which celebrities to put on a cereal box
Rise of Skywalker wasn’t a disappointment. The first movie in all 3 SW trilogies was the highest grossing movie of the trilogy. The second and third never do as well as the 1st.
They say if at first you dont succeed; try, try and try again...
...smarter people would say thats literally the definition of insanity!
I always enjoy your videos, Thor.
This should have been the long term goal all along, to use the sequel trilogy to set up new characters for the future but they didn't do that, they didn't have a plan and they made a mess of everything. Empire was one of the first movies i recall seeing as a kid, I'm not the biggest fan but I've always enjoy SW...even suffering through Jar Jar. I liked Rogue One, I enjoyed A New Hope, I thought Rey was a promising character and I don't hate Daisy Ridley... but I don't really care about SW anymore. I think there's a big difference between how well you can do with the last episode of a trilogy and how well you can do with the start of a following trilogy. For episode 9 you had people invested in the series who wanted to see the end of it, I think a lot of people are not going to bother with a new trilogy unless it's exceptionally good. I'd love for them to create a well planned trilogy with a good story and interesting characters, I just don't think they can do it and especially not with KK at the helm.
„Did I ever tell you what the definition of insanity is? Insanity is doing the exact... same fucking thing... over and over again expecting... shit to change... That. Is. Crazy.“
Good Lord lol. Why does Kathleen Kennedy still have such a hadron collider for Rey? Is it just that she's so arrogant that she can't mentally accept that she is capable of making a mistake? "Am I out of touch? No, it's the vast majority of my audience that is wrong."
From what I've read (no idea if it's true), Rey is KK's self-insert. So the fact that people hate Rey means that they hate Kathleen Kennedy.
Kennedy painted Star Wars into a corner and there is nowhere else to go, but with Rey. They had no plan and it is coming back to bite them big time. Kennedy should have realized this when she gave her directors all the power to write and direct the moves.. at the end, she would be left holding the bag.
It’s too late anyway. Disney/LF COULD have pulled it off a good “handoff” from the Han/Luke/Leia to a set of new characters that could take us forward from there. But they can’t undo what they did to the classic trio and so going forward it’s just not appealing. Plus the more KKs name is mentioned the less im interested. More than I already am.
Yes lets move forwards with the Plot-Singularity as the only "Valid" asset.
Asking KK to help Star Wars like like asking AH the mustache man to help Israel
Can’t you just say something like “sending KFC to help chickens?”
Kennedy seems invulnerable. Not sure what Disney are afraid of in replacing her - it’s not like any successor could do worse
Not only does kennedy need to leave, but SW needs another big break like between the OT and PT, at least ten years, to kinda start anew. And rey is soooo yesterday's news already. It will never be where all the original fans are gone and disnified SW is as huge as original SW.
Rey the last chance for Star Wars?
Sounds more like Kathleen Kennedy is pretending that every other series TANKING is a creative attempt to claim that Rey was the most popular character and thus the only one they should rely upon.
Much like claiming taking a car ride from the USA to Europe is a great idea, because you destroyed the nearby airplanes and boats.
I'm tapping out on star wars.
I didn't watch acolyte and I won't care to look at anything from them again.
Warhammer and helldivers can fill the "space war" want I have.
Until I see a trailer I don't care, and even then I still most likely won't go see it.
The definition of insanity os doing the exact something over and over and over again, expecting different results.
its also entirely possible that this is a last ditch effort for Kennedy, digging her heels in and saying to disney " all of this stuff has been leaked you fire me there will be a shit storm!"
It’s pure Hubris.
Have at it KK.
😁
just noticed the other day and verified it: Rogu was on TV ~8 months before Grogu
There's something I find scarier than this that Disney is considering Andrew Wilson of EA as their new CEO
Please no more Kennedy. Please no more Rey. I am sorry I really don't think she is a character they should focus on. I am hoping for new eras of Star Wars, new characters, etc. Please let us pray no and I will only believe anything on the movie front until I am paying for a seat in the movie theater
It's just a game of chicken between us and Disney now... I think this is one of their "leaks" that they do to gage how the fans feel and honesty I don't think they'll go through with it.
However KK isn't leaving anytime soon, stop supplying false hope, it's been made clear she'll leave when she wants to and not a second before lol.
I’m curious about how many people would even bother to show up.
They are delusional. How can anyone like Rey when her story brutally murdered Luke Skywalker. She did nothing to earn our love so she has none. Nothing besides re-doing the sequels will fix Star Wars. I mean the sequel trilogy was the biggest sequel in cinema history and they didn't have a plan. They didn't write a story? They just f'ing winged it. Anyone associated with those movies should have been fired, full stop.
Given the number of film projects that have been canceled over the years, I will believe that these movies are for real when I see them in the theaters.
I can't imagine how they could think anyone is going to spend money seeing these movies or buying merchandise. I sure won't be.
I lean towards believing that the leaks were a deliberate maneuver to try to back Disney into a corner. “Look at the huge fan reaction, you can’t walk this project back now.” That sort of thing. Whether I’m right or not and whether that plan succeeds or not remains to be to be seen.
And what galaxy do you have to be living in to think Ray is the only the only piece Star Wars has left to play?
They are not wrong about Rey being their only asset though. They were backstabbing, bait-and-switching and name-calling the fans for so long they drove all hardcore fans, casuals and even normies away. Shippers & w0kesters (basically the same group) are the only ones left.
The sequel trilogy trio of Rey, Finn, and Poe were also done dirty by the sequel trilogy. The actors were solid and the potential of their characters is quite high, so returning to them is not a bad idea, just one that needs to be built up properly
Wasn't there something about her wanting to retire but only if it's on a high note?
A trilogy is going to take I'd say about 7 years without there currently being no official script for the first film. That's a long time.
What I'd guess at this point is that there is someone else in charge right now and she is just going to be a producer of upcoming Star Wars films and/or projects.
But no, I don't think these exact films will ever get made. She may be a producer, Kinsberg may be the writer or whatever, and Rey may be in them, but I don't think it's going to be the movies they're trying to tell us they are.
Aw yes Rey. They are doomed.
To put a twist on an old R.E.M classic "It's the End of the World as We Know It"...and in this case I don't feel fine if Disney has gone all Dunning -Kruger on us.
They think this is a prequel/Hayden Christensen situation. That the sequels, and Rey, will/are loved and that in the future this will be obvious.
Darth Kennedy: "Young fools.. only now at the end do you understand... Now witness the power of this fully armed and contractually extended Lucas Film President! Announce the trilogy commander!!"
The Fans: That trilogy announcement came from Kennedy!!
More fans: I thought she was gone, she's still operational!?
Star Wars YT creators: "IT'S A TRAP!!"
More fans: the more you tighten the grip, the more people will slip through your fingers.
Won’t believe it
Seems like the final nail in the coffin to me
Yeah Disney just #shelvethereymovie already and make sure the kinberg trilogy is a complete timeline reboot of the sequel trilogy.
If someone announced tomorrow that there will never be another Star Wars movie made ever, I would consider that a win for Star Wars
People forget that the older fans used to spend a ton of money buying star wars stuff. Not so much unless its the older films/grogu
Don’t panic KK, There IS a Star Wars character I’d pay to see on screen: CARA DUNE.
Calling it a plan is being very generous.
One thing will save Star Wars - recast the original characters and focus on an ongoing tv show like the old school marvel comics.
At some point, I really hope they do make the Rey movie/trilogy/whatever. Perfect way to finally settle the Sequel popularity debate, and find out if 2015 kids actually will show up…
Looks like Disney are still going with the George R R Martin strategy.
Get the Andor Writer to write the next three movies