THEY FIXED IT, UPDATED BUILD: th-cam.com/video/UDE7f7820VM/w-d-xo.html Quick note, something I don't have time to go back and fix in the vid but we noticed while it was exporting: Ambush on the calc was adding both the non target bonus and the immobilized bonus when it should have just been the latter, so the numbers on anything shown with ambush on were slightly boosted more than they should have been. All the same though, the math is correct and so is the approach, only the end number goofed, and as to how that happened I simply confirmed numbers without ambush on so that's my bad. Kyle calcs will be added to the site in an hour or two after the vid goes live.
@@thenightingale7405 What build? bc we're using both in some. Also this is specifically why my calc site is public, so you can ask these questions and get answers yourself :P
im so happy you started making vids on this game, last math guy i watched started making build vids, and his first build vid was on kyle and it was a crit build...on a guy with 5% crit.
Nice, just unlocked Kyle last night and had no idea how to build or play him. Just knew that he was awesome and fun to play with instantly. Thanks for this.
@VashCowaii Dude, you’re awesome! Thank you for making a Kyle video, I will ab be solutely be utilizing this alongside with my current build to perfect him. Much appreciated, I really enjoy the content!
Wow, congratz on this being your first video where saying "every one has no idea how to build *insert character name*" and being "objectively" correct cause holy shit no one knows or has invested enough in Kyle to understand his kit after they patched out the glitch. Someone building him with a 4 crit mods build with his base 5% crit rate is so dump my brain retracted into my spinal chord. Great and informative video, credit where credit is due.
It's because you have no luna friends to have fun with... Any 4 crit built descendant with luna has 100% crit rate, even Kyle and Esiemo. The luna nuke launching base is still really fun to play, like before the Kyle fix, even if it only deals ~30M per Kyle to bosses.
@@allikridvaas.5612 Cool story bro but are we talking about general build for every contents or are we talking about highly strategized team play build?
@@lobstel2515 We used it for everything, except invasions. It's not strategized, it's just fun, stupid and it works. It's harder on gluttony, since you don't crit and deal much damage, so the luna has to go on the shoulders before launching the nukes because he will overload too quickly once his first frantic state is triggered. In dungeons, it allows you to get over lasers and holes, and it gives additional fun challenges like the little laser cave in the Haven.
@@allikridvaas.5612 Well then I’m glad you are having fun with your friends but we are talking about a “general” usage not “fun” oriented where it’s theoretically the best for every contents either solo, random matchmaking or a team play that are not planning for any combo. Your build only crater to your team and only works when revolved around 1 specific character, it is objectively a worse build for solo and random team and even a friend group who doesn’t has Luna player. I think you are missing the whole point of build guide if you are unironically suggesting this build for others in a general build guide video.
@@lobstel2515 You are randomly trashing people having a crit build on a "how to play" video. I give you a viable option to play it (since it can do all the available content) and you answer "I'm not here to have fun in a coop game, I want the best build to play solo". Please don't insult coop players in a coop game. And take care of your spinal chord.
Thanks Vash. Love your builds, even if this one isn't as tanky as I would've liked it. Overwhelming HP has major drawbacks though (you lose the second effect of Kyle's passive, and you're pretty unrevivable if you die) Hoping there's a practical way to restore shields in the game in the future.
Nice to see you releasing content for Concord since it's not being covered at all right now for some reason. Kyle looks like one of the cooler characters. I'll have to check him out when I get my hands on a copy of Concord. I think they sold out because it's not available anywhere right now.
Cool stuff, definetly going to try overwhelming shield. Right now I've been going for cooldown, and a little bit of range to spam explode his 3 for mobbing
There's way more wrong with Kyle as well. He's designed as a Bruiser, but can't play as one because of bs mechanics. His 1st ability has 3 stacks (with minimal cooldown time between) BUT his skill activation also has a cooldown tied to it. (What in the actual fuck) So, even if you have multiple attacks available, you can't recast until the casting cooldown resets. (Dumbest design mechanic ever) Then there's his 3rd ability (and like you somewhat covered) which is supposed to be his offensive and defensive tanking ability, it's best used as a burst ability (similar to Ajax's expulsion, but unfortunately weaker and with less range) All of this leads to where Kyle's playability is now focused into that One Pump Chump means of use, unfortunately. He doesn't need a rework (per say) but if they fix those bs mechanics and give him better options of his Trancendant mods then he could be a more viable choice to play. Right now he's a level him up to max and just set him aside character.
Also his 1st ability has terrible tracking and often phases right through enemies and activates out of range, and of course his ultimate gets set off by anything nearby in the air.
I’ve try the shield jiggle build, works for pc better. Wish the sensitivity for Xbox was higher. Really cool to know that the bomber build can be useful. Hope they fix the bug soon.
Much better video compared to your bunny video where you actually considered the aspects of whether if it is worth to build crit on kyle and if it is optimal for his strengths.
I dont play this game but I like your way of talking. Just thought of you making Genshin content (not that I wanted but it would be helpful to have a simpler understanding of math without melting my brain).
An Esiemo or Jayber video would be cool since those characters are almost extinct But I'd like a Yujin video....somehow Love your content so far! Keep it up!
@@alaskayoung3413 He aight. I built him bit back when he was bugged and his 4th ability is so fun to use. With a build focused around that I know he can he really fun overall
1. Every time I read the video titles I imagine Vash in the infamous Omni-Man "think" stance. 2. I just finished adding Catalysts to Kyle, so....gladge. 3. I didn't dip. 4. Yippee no ads, and Vash ain't no bitch. 5. I too want my Forma back....
Does overwhelming shield coop with walk a tightrope? Since you’re below 50% HP? Or would it be A waste since its only skillpower modifier that you buff instead of raw SP.
i still not end my testing because i need to max the mods but it looks like HP Amplification gives more shield than HP Conversion (Shield) with Overwhelming Shield equiped
Great video i plan to use kyle very soon. Would love for you to do a video on sharen because she has crazy potential i hut with her slash with 7 mil from time to time
Is there any chance you'll get to Valby build? I know add 'Supply Moiture' and stack crit and number go up. Could you find a proper build for 'Hydro Pressure Bomb'? With mid-air maneuvering, you can really launch yourself quite to distance. Manage to hit half a mil dmg in a dunk, but I haven't seen it since the latest update.
Wait a second. Did that shield final hand mod prevent damage that normally ignores shields? Or have I been imagining poison ignoring shields this whole time?
Happened to me as well. It's called Tenno PTSD. It's a mental condition that makes us tenno believe that, in First Descendant, Shields don't take Defense resistance into account, and also that status ailments such as Toxin, go through Shields straight into your HP. Disclaimer: Damage from lava from interception battles does go straight to your HP.
Thx for the builds, ill try the tank one, but what u do when your shield get low since shield regen is super slow, im new in the game and i have just reset 2 times kyle
There’s a mod called shield collector but you can only get it by combining mods at the module guy. It gives you shield healing when killing things. Instead of health.
I didn't see a point in trying to farm out a crit over several hundred runs just so I could claim he can one shot a boss. I'm not trying to jebait people, this is a discussion about how kyle should be able to perform much higher if he weren't bugged, and how to build him until then.
THEY FIXED IT, UPDATED BUILD: th-cam.com/video/UDE7f7820VM/w-d-xo.html
Quick note, something I don't have time to go back and fix in the vid but we noticed while it was exporting: Ambush on the calc was adding both the non target bonus and the immobilized bonus when it should have just been the latter, so the numbers on anything shown with ambush on were slightly boosted more than they should have been. All the same though, the math is correct and so is the approach, only the end number goofed, and as to how that happened I simply confirmed numbers without ambush on so that's my bad.
Kyle calcs will be added to the site in an hour or two after the vid goes live.
Would it be better to use Amplication Control for the 36.5% Max Shield over the 10.2 Skill Power in Non Attribute Synctium?
@@thenightingale7405 What build? bc we're using both in some. Also this is specifically why my calc site is public, so you can ask these questions and get answers yourself :P
can u do Hailey next?
@@VashCowaii I'm referring to the cooldown version of one pump.
im so happy you started making vids on this game, last math guy i watched started making build vids, and his first build vid was on kyle and it was a crit build...on a guy with 5% crit.
Nice, just unlocked Kyle last night and had no idea how to build or play him. Just knew that he was awesome and fun to play with instantly. Thanks for this.
Hahahaha the end of the video I felt that in my soul 😂. Hate the feeling of wasted forma/catalysts.
@VashCowaii
Dude, you’re awesome!
Thank you for making a Kyle video, I will ab be solutely be utilizing this alongside with my current build to perfect him. Much appreciated, I really enjoy the content!
And for the record. Yes. I’m happy now 😂
I love Kyle so much, the synergy in his kit is what I love about like Nidus or Baruuq from WarFrame.
I’m that kid in the basement full of poor life choices playing tfd and loving it. Another great vid
Subbed. Best Kyle build in like the last month.
Wow, congratz on this being your first video where saying "every one has no idea how to build *insert character name*" and being "objectively" correct cause holy shit no one knows or has invested enough in Kyle to understand his kit after they patched out the glitch. Someone building him with a 4 crit mods build with his base 5% crit rate is so dump my brain retracted into my spinal chord. Great and informative video, credit where credit is due.
It's because you have no luna friends to have fun with... Any 4 crit built descendant with luna has 100% crit rate, even Kyle and Esiemo.
The luna nuke launching base is still really fun to play, like before the Kyle fix, even if it only deals ~30M per Kyle to bosses.
@@allikridvaas.5612 Cool story bro but are we talking about general build for every contents or are we talking about highly strategized team play build?
@@lobstel2515 We used it for everything, except invasions. It's not strategized, it's just fun, stupid and it works. It's harder on gluttony, since you don't crit and deal much damage, so the luna has to go on the shoulders before launching the nukes because he will overload too quickly once his first frantic state is triggered. In dungeons, it allows you to get over lasers and holes, and it gives additional fun challenges like the little laser cave in the Haven.
@@allikridvaas.5612 Well then I’m glad you are having fun with your friends but we are talking about a “general” usage not “fun” oriented where it’s theoretically the best for every contents either solo, random matchmaking or a team play that are not planning for any combo. Your build only crater to your team and only works when revolved around 1 specific character, it is objectively a worse build for solo and random team and even a friend group who doesn’t has Luna player.
I think you are missing the whole point of build guide if you are unironically suggesting this build for others in a general build guide video.
@@lobstel2515 You are randomly trashing people having a crit build on a "how to play" video. I give you a viable option to play it (since it can do all the available content) and you answer "I'm not here to have fun in a coop game, I want the best build to play solo".
Please don't insult coop players in a coop game. And take care of your spinal chord.
The screen shot & dip mention...fucking crying, lol.
Awesome video man thanks 4 doing your thing!
I had no idea Overwhelming Shield added to BASE values. TMYK.
Also I wish they would just say that on the mod.
Love this my man!!! Thanks!!!!
My boy kyle!
As one of the 3 Kyle mains from Day 1 (Yes, I paid $), thanks for this!
Thanks Vash. Love your builds, even if this one isn't as tanky as I would've liked it.
Overwhelming HP has major drawbacks though (you lose the second effect of Kyle's passive, and you're pretty unrevivable if you die)
Hoping there's a practical way to restore shields in the game in the future.
yeah its so annoying lol
Check Recovery Maneuver in Inversion Reinforcement for a way to get shield back.
Nice to see you releasing content for Concord since it's not being covered at all right now for some reason. Kyle looks like one of the cooler characters. I'll have to check him out when I get my hands on a copy of Concord. I think they sold out because it's not available anywhere right now.
nice vid bro, got another sub. keep it up
Cool stuff, definetly going to try overwhelming shield. Right now I've been going for cooldown, and a little bit of range to spam explode his 3 for mobbing
This was fucking gold. Love the vids!
Solid AF! I hope you do an Ajax build fix
There's way more wrong with Kyle as well.
He's designed as a Bruiser, but can't play as one because of bs mechanics.
His 1st ability has 3 stacks (with minimal cooldown time between) BUT his skill activation also has a cooldown tied to it. (What in the actual fuck)
So, even if you have multiple attacks available, you can't recast until the casting cooldown resets. (Dumbest design mechanic ever)
Then there's his 3rd ability (and like you somewhat covered) which is supposed to be his offensive and defensive tanking ability, it's best used as a burst ability (similar to Ajax's expulsion, but unfortunately weaker and with less range)
All of this leads to where Kyle's playability is now focused into that One Pump Chump means of use, unfortunately.
He doesn't need a rework (per say) but if they fix those bs mechanics and give him better options of his Trancendant mods then he could be a more viable choice to play. Right now he's a level him up to max and just set him aside character.
Also his 1st ability has terrible tracking and often phases right through enemies and activates out of range, and of course his ultimate gets set off by anything nearby in the air.
Great video. I done your lepic build and love it, thanks I will try.this out
I’ve try the shield jiggle build, works for pc better. Wish the sensitivity for Xbox was higher. Really cool to know that the bomber build can be useful. Hope they fix the bug soon.
Much better video compared to your bunny video where you actually considered the aspects of whether if it is worth to build crit on kyle and if it is optimal for his strengths.
I dont play this game but I like your way of talking. Just thought of you making Genshin content (not that I wanted but it would be helpful to have a simpler understanding of math without melting my brain).
Legendary! What about peacemaker? Would that be more effective than the garden considering its uptime isn’t easy to maintain let alone 3 stacks.
thank you sir, sorry about your forma but we appreciate your contribution
An Esiemo or Jayber video would be cool since those characters are almost extinct
But I'd like a Yujin video....somehow
Love your content so far! Keep it up!
Jay and Yujin my mains lol. I’ve wanted to do Kyle for ever but I never do bc people say he suck’s so bad.
@@alaskayoung3413 He aight. I built him bit back when he was bugged and his 4th ability is so fun to use.
With a build focused around that I know he can he really fun overall
@@alaskayoung3413 also, hello fellow Yujin main
Ya, that’s cool and all vash, BUT WHERE TF IS MY UNLILLABLE ULT AJAX BUILD HMMM?!?!? >:(
1. Every time I read the video titles I imagine Vash in the infamous Omni-Man "think" stance.
2. I just finished adding Catalysts to Kyle, so....gladge.
3. I didn't dip.
4. Yippee no ads, and Vash ain't no bitch.
5. I too want my Forma back....
He did use that Omni man meme for the thumbnail of a previous video actually lol
U can maintain your 2 without draining any shield if u have enough shield recovery and skill cost modifier
nice cause my kyle is cooking up right now
Luckily for me i subscribed in the future
I managed to get my kyle ulti cooldown down to 6 seconds, but not sure its particularly practical, time will tell :)
Does overwhelming shield coop with walk a tightrope? Since you’re below 50% HP? Or would it be A waste since its only skillpower modifier that you buff instead of raw SP.
Nice! That's a good fucking guide video! XD
i still not end my testing because i need to max the mods but it looks like HP Amplification gives more shield than HP Conversion (Shield) with Overwhelming Shield equiped
one pump chump cooldown is pretty much what i ran before the last patch except for overhelming shields
Great video i plan to use kyle very soon. Would love for you to do a video on sharen because she has crazy potential i hut with her slash with 7 mil from time to time
Is the Secret Garden required for the passive? Or can the build work with different weapon while I'm farming it?
As one of the three. I thank you
“I want my forms back” 🤣😂🤣😂
Is there any chance you'll get to Valby build? I know add 'Supply Moiture' and stack crit and number go up.
Could you find a proper build for 'Hydro Pressure Bomb'? With mid-air maneuvering, you can really launch yourself quite to distance.
Manage to hit half a mil dmg in a dunk, but I haven't seen it since the latest update.
Wondering if Peacemaker's single reload for peace buff would be better than secret garden.
Depends, don't have it yet, dunno how it boosts
Wait a second. Did that shield final hand mod prevent damage that normally ignores shields? Or have I been imagining poison ignoring shields this whole time?
Happened to me as well. It's called Tenno PTSD. It's a mental condition that makes us tenno believe that, in First Descendant, Shields don't take Defense resistance into account, and also that status ailments such as Toxin, go through Shields straight into your HP.
Disclaimer: Damage from lava from interception battles does go straight to your HP.
RIP the last haw
yee
Where are u getting the 121,399.603 SKill Power number from?
Where is fix ur gley 😭
So the only question I have is spear & shield and HP conversion (shield) can’t be on at the same time? As they’re both defence modules?
No, conversion for shield is a shield module
@@VashCowaiigotcha! Must be building it wrong
@@VashCowaiioh there’s a shield conversion I’ve looked at the wrong one
Thx for the builds, ill try the tank one, but what u do when your shield get low since shield regen is super slow, im new in the game and i have just reset 2 times kyle
There’s a mod called shield collector but you can only get it by combining mods at the module guy. It gives you shield healing when killing things. Instead of health.
@@alaskayoung3413 Nice to know that, thx so much!!
Will there a build for yujin? He gets no love
Ajax build when?
Day “I lost count maybe two” of waiting for the Ajax build so I can establish my dominance and stare at downed players
VASH!!!! Drop the esiemo build and my life is yours
chuckled pretty hard at this. Just for that I'll consider him for next week's build, but no promises.
@@VashCowaii hell yeah, me and the other 4 esiemo players thank you.
Can u do an Enzo build I’d love to see your take on him
Can you do a blair video?
I don't have Kyle. So he can keep waiting.
Bug fixes for ultimate of Kyle ????
No multitalented? that shit is amazing for cooldown
I hope if you made this video you also reported the bug. 😅
Where can I even report it? Because I haven't yet. This isn't warframe or remnant, I have no easy or direct way to do it, so let me know.
yujin next?
Big pee pee numbers for Kyle!
I still hate Lepic. I wish they would watch your video, shaking my head. It's just a lost cause at this point.
Luna build when?
Fix your Enzo!!!!
now use funny kyle crit build with luna for 100% crit with 3 kyles
wished they just get rid of bunnies! they are annoying as hell!
Would like you to do ajax and gley when you have a chance
man uses math to make kyle less squishy
Also, pretty sure I got Ajax as best as possible for an actual tank build but id love to see you prove me wrong
Please do blair next.
I hated you for this video only because it was true
Gley next please
Nah bro they only fix they get strong like kyle and bunny one hit build.
vash do u like kpop
Show the gameplay.
I didn't see a point in trying to farm out a crit over several hundred runs just so I could claim he can one shot a boss. I'm not trying to jebait people, this is a discussion about how kyle should be able to perform much higher if he weren't bugged, and how to build him until then.
Is it even possible to make a "Fix your Eseimo" video or is he a lost cause? 😂
Help me beat gluttany ill tell u something no one knows in this game dat will get millions views cuz everyone wants this n no one got video on it
Learn english first