(picking 490) Decoded: Tresor Chain Catena Combo 1385 bike combination lock

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  • (False gates at 5759, true gates at 1315). Now this is the decoding of a very difficult bike lock from ABUS (Tresor Chain Catena Combo 1385); it has some very effective ant-decoding features ( • (picking 491) Disassem... )
    I was playing with this lock since I got it in April 2016. If you develop the right feeling and if you play long enough with the wheels, there is a chance of opening. Hope you like a long decoding session - here performed under laboratory conditions.
    By the way, that's the first video about this lock • (picking 160) ABUS 4 w...

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  • @Potti314
    @Potti314  6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    (False gates at 5759, true gates at 1315). Now this is the decoding of a very difficult bike lock from ABUS (Tresor Chain Catena Combo 1385); it has some very effective ant-decoding features.
    I was playing with this lock since I got it in April 2016. If you develop the right feeling and if you play long enough with the wheels, there is a chance of opening. Hope you like a long decoding session - here performed under laboratory conditions.
    By the way, that's the first video about this lock th-cam.com/video/727-QM_dOGw/w-d-xo.html

    • @Potti314
      @Potti314  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Disassembling th-cam.com/video/NqdGfvaud0U/w-d-xo.html

    • @wildeast66
      @wildeast66 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much for your videos about this lock, especially the disassembly. It helped a lot to understand the lock and after crafting a "gripper" tool, that helped me to turn the wheels I finally made it to decode my lock.
      It really was a hard thing to do. So the lock is very nice.
      Best regard,
      Stefan

    • @Potti314
      @Potti314  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wildeast66 Thanks a lot for the nice comment. You you show us your gripper tool?

  • @jimhood1202
    @jimhood1202 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I had a chance to decode one of these for real today. Knowing there were likely to be false gates I tried to note any slight binding in each wheel and ended up with two numbers for each. That reduced the possible combinations to a number where trial and error doesn't take too long. Once I got it open I found that each wheel is made the same and so the false gates are always four away from the true ones. My combo was 8864 therefore the false gates were 2208. If you look at your binding numbers and check they are four apart for each wheel then take the lower number in each case, you have your combo!

  • @omidbg
    @omidbg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This totally helped me figure it out. Feels like a miracle. Avoided me buying a new lock because I forgot my pin! Thank you!

    • @Potti314
      @Potti314  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great - thanks for the feedback.

  • @Merkenau
    @Merkenau ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks a lot! It realy helped to put one end in the vice and hang a load of the other side!
    A consitant slow speed of rotation helped to feel little nuaces/ differences. It only took about 3 minutes.
    This Type ist also build in the ABUS D-58292 wetter.

  • @TheOepf
    @TheOepf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you! With your description, I finally managed to open my brother's lock - he no longer knew the code ... We spent hours trying to open it. Now I've finally made it - in a few minutes!
    For each ring, I wrote down the two numbers, I believed was a right or wrong gate. Then I just tried the combinations ... maybe I was just lucky ;). Anyway, I'm happy :).
    Ach - und einen dankbaren Gruss aus der Schweiz! :)

    • @Potti314
      @Potti314  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sehr cool - vielen Dank für das nette Feedback.

    • @wildeast66
      @wildeast66 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The false gates are always at the same distance to the true gates (-4). So if you have two candidates with a distance of four, there is definitely one favorite.
      However, congratulations. I tried hours with the one of my daughter and didn't find the combination (which a "friend" of her scrambled).
      Now, with these videos, I hope to succeed.

    • @TomJones-tx7pb
      @TomJones-tx7pb ปีที่แล้ว

      If you know the false and real gates, and they are not opposite each other, you only have 2 combinations to try typically. For example:
      1 or 5, 3 or 7, 1 or 5, 5 or 9. Gates are 4 apart. so combination is likely to be 1315 or 5759. oops Jim Hood has already pointed this out below.

  • @JoernR
    @JoernR ปีที่แล้ว

    Ich habe gerade fasziniert dabei zugeschaut, wie jemand minutenlang am Rad drehte. Und schmerzlich mitgefühlt, als er anfangs schon gaaanz nah dran war. :)

  • @jbanks100100
    @jbanks100100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent! Just managed to work out the code to my Abus lock with this video. Only took a few minutes. Thank you.

  • @dazevers
    @dazevers 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really enjoyed your video especially the moment that the lock opened. Fantastic 👍

    • @Potti314
      @Potti314  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you buddy - this lock really caused me a lot of trouble for a long time and I was very happy that it opened on camera :-)

  • @vancouverspecial9096
    @vancouverspecial9096 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice job on the decoding! I enjoyed how you displayed the combination on the screen - added to the drama. You've inspired me to take another try on an old combination bike lock I found - I was having trouble tensioning it but I'll try your method. :)

    • @Potti314
      @Potti314  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks buddy, that was a pretty hard lock. Good luck with yours :-)

  • @DonzLockz
    @DonzLockz 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    So happy to see a manufacturer make a good effort to make combo locks difficult to decode. I would use this with a chain. Thanks for sharing your skills, commentry & scaring the crap out of me excitement on the open!🤣👌🍺😎

    • @Potti314
      @Potti314  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you and I'm very happy that you had fun watching :-) I'm also truly amazed that ABUS took effort to make this lock secure. I also would use use it without doubt. And the excitement is always big on this lock when it pops open; amplified by the weight falling down ;-)

    • @DonzLockz
      @DonzLockz 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Potti314 😊 I hope other manufacturers follow Abus's lead.Cheers my friend. 🍺😊

  • @fezie404
    @fezie404 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I did actually find a quicker way and a way I didn't even need to touch it. I gave it to my 6 year old twins for the day by the end of the day it came back to me unlocked this was very effective and one of the best methods I found in the end

  • @Outlander0995
    @Outlander0995 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So my friend give me exact lock.
    I searched some videos and try to learn by myself. But then I take a brake and find yours.
    I tried and tried and tried... Then I stop and listen to your 2nd part of the video meanwhile rolling my 4th code wheel and on 0 it opens lol.
    I got luck to accidentally set correct the 1st 3 codes. So it happened to be 0980.
    This lock is awesome. It's ruin your feedback quite well.
    So yes who interested it took me 30+ minutes but seems like i got natural 20 on luck xD

  • @swim3936
    @swim3936 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My buddy had this lock. The thieves managed to pry it open between the code disks. I guess there are perfect locks.

    • @Potti314
      @Potti314  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah thieves use force, they don't decode.

  • @DasEtwas
    @DasEtwas 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After wasting hours trying to decode it, I've learned that the strongest clue is that all digits lock up when the last three digits are correct, meaning you ideally only need to test 1000 + 10 combinations.

    • @Potti314
      @Potti314  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you consider decoding a waste of time, then stop doing it. For me locks are puzzle to solve and I have fun working on them. Brute force attacks will not teach you anything.

    • @DasEtwas
      @DasEtwas 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Potti314 I needed to open the lock ASAP, sadly not for fun

  • @dexter13601
    @dexter13601 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really cool how the wheels give resistance till it gets to the correct combo. Awesome video.

    • @Potti314
      @Potti314  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much - happy you had fun watching :-)

  • @sadbriansadbrian
    @sadbriansadbrian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I felt the pure joy at the end. Wow! This guy has a passion for puzzles. Me too ^~^

  • @LockNoob
    @LockNoob 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tough Decoding, but proves once again, you are the Decoding king :-)

    • @Potti314
      @Potti314  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      If I was the king, then this would have been a 2 min video ;-) But thanks for the kind words buddy :-)

  • @TallanPick
    @TallanPick 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome decoding video again Michael, my friend, I really enjoy it, I love your reacction when the padlock pops up, cool!
    Thanks for sharing buddy, you rocks! ;o))

    • @Potti314
      @Potti314  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you - this lock is always great fun when it pops open ;-)

  • @373346507
    @373346507 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your video! It helped me to save the money for a new locker!

    • @Potti314
      @Potti314  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the feedback - glad my video was helpful.

  • @teleruin8686
    @teleruin8686 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    at 05:07.... so close...
    just didn't fulfil that one notch on the 4'th wheel he sat out to do.....
    I really need to break my own lock of this type. unfortunately if fastened to my bike, so I can not hang a weight on it.

  • @Swynndla
    @Swynndla 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like you had lots of fun, and it was fun watching! It looks like a really interesting lock - looking forward to your next video to see how this thing ticks. :-)

    • @Potti314
      @Potti314  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a great lock and I had fun. It's an exciting feeling when suddenly the wheels start binding and you know that the opening is close :-) Thanks for watching buddy :-)

  • @WilliamMancel
    @WilliamMancel 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great decoding buddy. You can really tell when you get it right with all those locks falling down. 😂👍👏🔓

    • @Potti314
      @Potti314  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha, yes, these locks make a nice sound indicating the opening without any doubt ;-)

  • @Baldiloks
    @Baldiloks 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent job my friend, your surprise was great.

    • @Potti314
      @Potti314  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you buddy - I had tons of fun with this lock - happy that you enjoyed watching :-)

  • @landspide
    @landspide 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This saved me hours of time!

    • @Potti314
      @Potti314  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the feedback.

  • @greggdiehl805
    @greggdiehl805 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks back when i was young i could even do master locks finly making good locks now even with these videos no one is going to spend 15 mints braking them . ps about 20 mints for me but the first 5 was ols style i knew back in the day

    • @Potti314
      @Potti314  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Destructive entry methods are much more common - only takes seconds.

    • @greggdiehl805
      @greggdiehl805 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Potti314 lock your bike up behind the building leave it there a month ( O it was still there for me LOLOL ) But reality is someone wants it bad enough they will find a way just like i finly did with this lock .

    • @grzeskucin1909
      @grzeskucin1909 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      First one I opened in 15 minutes and second just took me 2-3 minutes. So I don't know if this lock is good enough.

    • @greggdiehl805
      @greggdiehl805 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@grzeskucin1909 yes about the same for me like most likes once you know the trick it's easy . You know as a kid it was just the challenge of it and no youtube to help lll

  • @liebefriedenworldwide8780
    @liebefriedenworldwide8780 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    omg, you were so close [5:05]. Found one of these and wanna know the combination now. Not sure if I brute force it [1h 40mins max] or if I try my luck, it's really hard to feel anything. I know from another video there is one true and one false gate in each wheel.
    It's open. ;) I decided to switch between both methods a few minutes each and see witch one is faster, the second round with brute force opened it. It was the area code for landlines of my city, so I had to do less than 400 combinations only.

  • @johnmccormick2883
    @johnmccormick2883 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job! I jumped too when you got it open 👍🏻

    • @Potti314
      @Potti314  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha, me too - with this lock the excitement of an opening is always BIG ;-)

  • @nathanblaxall8703
    @nathanblaxall8703 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done! It was really interesting to see you dancing around the correct numbers. Thank you for putting up the correct code on the side so we could see how close you're getting (this made it quite suspenseful for me!). You seemed to home in on the general area quite quickly, right?

    • @Potti314
      @Potti314  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheers and thanks for watching. I hoped that showing the number would increase the tension a bit ;-) I'm trying to familiarize myself in all lock related areas and found combination locks really entertaining. But all areas are good fun to explore :-)

  • @wadestanford1392
    @wadestanford1392 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I purchased a new bike a and set the code. I then spun the numbers and went to the numbers and put them in to see how they worked. The lock wont open and I have been working on it for the last month and still can't get to open. Does anyone have any advice on what I should do. Very expensive lock but I'm thinking I might have to just buy another one.

  • @firepicker5174
    @firepicker5174 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!, I have one and I'm struggling with him. I hope with this video to learn to open.

    • @Potti314
      @Potti314  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good luck - let me know when you have success.

  • @HelpfulLockPicker
    @HelpfulLockPicker 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work on the open!

    • @Potti314
      @Potti314  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you.

  • @hpevans9041
    @hpevans9041 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, I have a similar bike lock but I’m struggling to unlock it. Can you suggest another method to the resistance one you demonstrate. I’ve tried loading the lock with weight as you’ve done but still I can feel any discernible feedback.

  • @nr619
    @nr619 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    tried a few days while watching tv. very difficult to open. many times was stuck on different combinations which at the end were completely different from the code.... not sure if it would have been faster to try the 9999 combinations but happy to have opended it finally.

    • @Potti314
      @Potti314  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you opened it, but trying out combinations is not what I'm aiming for.

  • @Leonslockpad
    @Leonslockpad 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yet another great video my friend😊😊😊😎😊😎😊

    • @Potti314
      @Potti314  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you :-)

  • @Alan_Hans__
    @Alan_Hans__ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you ready to give this another crack? I have a matching lock branded as a Tioga and initially I was having a lot of trouble. I watched your videos on the lock and unchained my bike to have a play. It seems that some manufacturers have the false gates 4/6 away from the true gate. The Tioga one I have has the false gates 5 away from the true gate. If you want to have a go at a new method then reply here and I'll email it to you. I can now crack mine in under 20s with eyes closed, several seconds quicker with eyes open.

    • @Potti314
      @Potti314  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting. Does your lock also have the feedback-destroying bumps (th-cam.com/video/NqdGfvaud0U/w-d-xo.html)? Would like to try yours but I guess that Australia - Germany does not make for a cheap and quick shipment.

  • @supermanlol5865
    @supermanlol5865 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cooles video gut gemacht

  • @waddac2
    @waddac2 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nicely done buddy ;o))))

    • @Potti314
      @Potti314  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you my friend :-)

  • @obijanjebrave
    @obijanjebrave 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That last fourth wheel gave you a lot of misleads, and next time be more considerate with us who listen over the headphones when you celebrate the opening! 😂😂😂

    • @Potti314
      @Potti314  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, the last wheel was the least reliable one. Hope your ears are still OK ;-) Will try to remember that for the next time and will show a warning.

  • @TomTheAustrian
    @TomTheAustrian 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mine can’t be turned when pulled on

    • @Potti314
      @Potti314  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pull lighter.

  • @eZPlayMicRo
    @eZPlayMicRo ปีที่แล้ว

    Not possible anymore

  • @BD90..
    @BD90.. 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am guessing it has false gates

    • @Potti314
      @Potti314  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh yes, false gates and bumps on the code wheels to destroy the feedback.