Bari Weiss with Natan Sharansky | FP in Israel
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- On January 25, 2024, Bari Weiss interviewed Natan Sharansky at the Nalagaat Theatre in Jaffa, Israel.
Natan was born in Ukraine, in 1948, the same year as the birth of the state of Israel. A chess prodigy and a mathematician, he became a figure of international importance in 1977, when he was imprisoned by the Soviet Union on trumped-up charges of treason. His real crime was wanting to immigrate to the state of Israel. At his court hearing in 1978, he famously said, “To the court, I have nothing to say. To my wife and to my people, I say, Next year in Jerusalem.”
Getting to Jerusalem took him longer than a year. Sharansky had to spend nine years in the gulag, often in solitary confinement. In 1983, he was in a tiny cell in a prison near the Siberian border when he learned that President Reagan had labeled the Soviet Union an evil empire. That empire fell eight years later, in no small part thanks to the actions of Sharansky, who immigrated to Israel upon his release from prison in 1986 and reunited with his wife, Avital.
Natan went on to a long political career, serving as a cabinet minister in every Israeli government from 1996 to 2005. He’s the author of several books, including the must-read memoir “Fear No Evil,” and most recently, “Never Alone: Prison, Politics, and My People.” In the course of his remarkable life, Natan has been a key actor in the only true forever war, and that is the war of liberty versus tyranny.
And while many American Jews have had the luxury over the past half-century of feeling as though history had ended, or that they had been on a holiday from it, Sharansky has always lived inside Jewish history. Few people can better illuminate the way, not just for Jews and not just for Israelis, but for anyone who cares about the cause of freedom than Natan Sharansky.
People should be more like Natan Sharansky
I haven’t heard or seen Sharansky for many years and I have to say that he is as smart as he used to. Great interview, thank you very much.
Bravo, Mr. SHARANSKY. I shall look for your book! You have taught me something in this short talk. Thank you, sir.
Very worth reading.
I am officially in love with Bari Weiss.
I want the hear her speak of literally ANYTHING!
She is full of compassion, genuine interest, and intelligence.
Wow!!! I laughed more than I have in a while and at the same time he made me feel optimistic about the future of Israel!! He is so clear eyed and wise. Thank you once again Bari for bringing such a great voice to us
Remarkable interview with a hero of the Jewish people. His memoir Fear No Evil is an inspiring true life story of his moral courage in facing down the Soviet empire and never bending the knee to totalitarianism. Thank you to Bari Weiss and The Free Press for this interview.
His absolutism on democracy and liberty are informed and compelling
What a great conversation!
Members of several families stand up and take their hats off. Natan (originally - Anatoly) Scharansky saved their lives by his heroic struggle and relocation to the West. Dear Tolik, you are still our hero and will remain forever!!! Best wishes, long years! The Kapluns.
Very refreshing to hear someone speak with such grave perspective. I truly admire this man and the optimism he retains, even in such awful times.
This is uplifting. Watching makes you hope inspite what is happening in our midst.
God bless you and your families, Ms. Bari Weiss and Mr. Natan Sharansky🙏
Fascinating interview! Thank you Bari and Natan!
Amazing discussion. Thank you very much
Courage is rare. And. Deeply precious.
I am a Hungarian! Hungarians very noticeably love Israel BUT we do sadly have also betrayed Ukraine with our diplomacy. I hope it changes in the future
I must say, eastern Europe is a completely different world from Western Europe. Its probably the effects of communism and Soviet union. Hungry especially is immune to Leftism
Thank you so so much for this amazing interview!!
Fabulous interview!! Fascinating.
Brit here. Fascinating to hear from this gentleman on all the topics covered.
You are a great interviewer and I get your free press.
I know of sharansky but tried to listen carefully.
I had difficulty comprehending much of his answers but he is above my level in reference to references to Putin, antisemitism in college campuses here, and thoughts about the solution to anything.
Perhaps you could write a long piece explaining His thoughts in the free press or need to listen to this many times. He is a fascinating person with an amazing history.
Thank you for the interview.
Beautiful interview. Thank you!
❤ from Turkey
Bari is highly skilled and intelligent reporter. Sharansky has an deep understanding of morality and democracy. He understands the politics of world countries. He was imprisoned in Siberia.
It is inspiring to see people like Ms Weiss who persevere with PRINCIPLES.
There's a genocide in Gaza right now. If your principles permit for genocide then you probably need better principles.
The jeering crowd ( documented on the 7th) should have known better.
They were asking for it proudly in front of the global arena.
War is ugly, destructive and equates to death. Do not poke a lion in slumber if you want your limbs intact.
They collude and sleep with the people responsible for it. They know and yet they decide to support. If they want this to stop, they should surrender the perps.
@SuperKripke
Inspite of all, the IDF has been moving heaven and earth to limit collateral civilian casualties. But war is war and is never perfect.
Very interesting and smart interview ! I have a pleasure to listen ! Bravo !👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏♥️♥️♥️
Thank you. How I enjoyed this interview! How enhanced my appreciation of freedom and identity-belonging!
Absolutely brilliant interview, Bari! Thank you! And thank you to Mr. Sharansky for the wisdom, insight, and courage!
Great interview! Loved the quick ending questions!!!
Mr Sharansky is one of the most inspirational speakers I’ve heard in a very long time. His optimism is contagious, even while we feel like we are living through a very dark period in Jewish history. Thank you, thank you!!
This was so enjoyable and inspiring to listen to.What a great man! Thanks for this interview. Best wishes to all.
What a Man! Thank you, Bari
Amazing. Thank you both for this informative and insightful discussion!
Yep, who best to fight for the rights of indigenous Israelis than a man who's clearly from the Soviet Union and a woman who's clearly from Brooklyn? Let's continue to fight for the continued displacement for the Palestinians who have no connection to the land!
Absolutely riveting. Thank you for sharing with us.
“I was a loyal Soviet citizen until the age of 20. What it meant to be a loyal citizen is to say what you are supposed to say, to read what you are permitted to read, to vote the way you are told to vote and, at the same time, to know that all this is a lie” -N.S.
Dennis Prager talks about being sent into the Soviet Union in his 20's. Sneaking writings in and out.
Very gutsy.
Can't even imagine having nerves of steel like that.
What an excellent interview! Bari Weiss asked Natan Sharansky what the American Jews need to do to save the country. Simple answer: stop watching CNN, MSNBC, reading The New York Times. Start listening to Dennis Prager, Victor Davis Hanson, Marc Levin and Ben Shapiro. And, finally, go vote for Donald Trump.
Thank you! A true hero!❤
The Free Press rocks I just subscribed, my youngest daughter sent it to me, brought so many memories from my life in former USSR, I was born in Kiev Ukraine my heart hurts for Ukraine and also my late mother was born in Tbilisi Georgia...
The world is crazy so happy that Sharansky is alive, so many real heroes from Russia, aka Aleksey Navalny who was killed by Putin today and so many others in captivity for god knows how long.
If hell exists Putin and trump should burn there.
Unfortunately, journalism in one of the better bastions of free press, the NEW YORK TIMES, has been sold to the highest bidder.
thank you for the great interview
Excellent!
Bari Weiss i love you and what you do.Its amazing.Keep going.
"1st they come for the Saturday People, then they come for The Sunday People."
Bernard Lewis
Bari Weiss is my heroe❤
Excellent interview. So fun!
Great conversation (except for the Lightning Round, from which Russians should automatically be exempt)!
Bari, you're holding out on us with the Roland Fryer interview on video. LOL. Great job on these recent interviews and videos. They're great, and the video quality and set looks good.
Very Good
👏👏👏Toda raba
Wow this was great
Belief in America is great We also must back press freedom internationally and not just here . Israel must be unapologetically praised for the positive things it does for the earth and the world, especially on college campuses no one can tolerate anti-semitism.. Nice job Bari on all your episodes.
Brilliant.
What a Man!
Bravo Bari Weiss 💙🤍💙🤍💙🫶
Она глупа и левая
AMAZING!! Remember what he said about best and worst U.S.President for Israel. Weak - worst. The STRONGER the President- the better for Israel. I’m going to listen to this again and again. Incredible individual!
Stronger president that also believes in a liberal democracy
More people should be taught about Natan Sharansky--and about other Jewish dissidents from the former USSR (such as Sylvia Zalmanson and Eduard Kuznetsov).
God bless Israel ❤️🙏❤️
Sharansky is a freedom champion of the cold war era.
Please post a clip of Mr Sharansky at about the 39-40 minute mark where he’s talking about Marxism in academia. Great interview that I hope many Americans will see💜
Very inspiring. Strangely, as a Canadian goyim, I felt he was speaking for all Western Democratic societies. I would like to think that if tested as this man has been my character would be as strong as his, but I very much doubt it. If Israel still has leaders like this, it need not worry about the future.
BRAVO
I hope Barri knew/ felt she was also referring to herself when she alluded to the privileged liberal American Jews at the start of this amazing interview.
At 26 minutes he laments the last 2 years of Israel being on Putin's side, I'd call that a mischaracterization of remaining neutral when Russia is looking away when Israel bombs in syria, would have guessed he'd be more upset at the anti netanyahu protests regarding the reigning in the power of the supreme Court, fascinating stuff... Would be curious to hear his version of the discussions between Ariel Sharon and him regarding the disengagement besides that they disagreed
Not only sharp, but super contemporary - explaining wokism.
I gotta start playing chess.
I am particularly intrigued about his apparent advocacy of Putin.
Please explain further.
Also the antisemitism on college campuses and all it entails.
Imagine if the trauma of October 7th happened every single day since? How horrific an experience that would be for the mothers fathers children grandparents.
The hardest of the lighting-round questions for Natan to answer with brevity was the borscht or kubbeh. The Russian--Jewish--Israeli was at a loss.
❤❤❤ also made me laugh
Along with Sakharov and Solzhenitsyn, a historic link to eternity.
nazis were socialist. thats far left.
Dear man! What a petty, he in not in cabinet!
It's time...
Sharansky - as a cabinet minister - voted for the DISENGAGEMENT FROM GAZA.
Many knew then, that the Disengagement would lead to more terror.
Now we all know that October 7 could not have happened if not for the Disengagement.
Shortly after he voted for it, he quit the cabinet and went around claiming he was against it.
In the intro, it is mentioned he was in the cabinet. It was not mentioned that he was in cabinet as someone from outside the Knesset.
He tried to get elected but the community of Russian activists who had actually suffered in the Gulags exposed him as being KGB.
Needless to say, he was not popular in Israel, but for some reason he has been propped up in the US.
There was a huge rally to show support for Israel following October 7th.
The featured speakers were actually enemies of the Jews. One of them being Sharansky.
The Jewish community leaders in the US are clueless.
Thanks for showing us all a great example of disinformation!
Sharansky was great and inspiring. Bari was delightful with good clear questions but...
try to keep your hand gestures at a minimum. It looks like you are directing traffic and distracts from the wisdom of your comments.
The only God embracing free will is the Jewish God and by extension the Christian God as they are one and the same. To have freedom the people must believe in free will and freedom.
I do not comprehend sharansky position in Putin and Israel and disagree with his opinion.
Please explain his comments about Putin and why?
I kinda get what he is saying. Putin is surrounded by a lot of Jewish business associates - he understands that Jews are good for business. Close to a million of Soviet Jews moved to Israel in the 90's. Many kept their very Russian/Soviet culture and unlike the people in the former republics of the Soviet Union were actually sympathetic to Russia. The older folks were even nostalgic. So Putin sympathised to that, but at the same time he dreamed of recreating Soviet Union and Israel was always a target because it is an ally of US. Just like his Soviet predecessors, Putin continues to support Israel's enemies.
Bari might be not working at the times, but she thinks like far left regarding Bibi. Girl, wake up. Btw, rethink those earrings.
Remember when she didn’t know what the word ‘toady’ means?
Ширанский - спасибо что не бросаете Израиль.
Бари - тебе минус за левачество.
Sharansky beat Kasparov in a simultaneous exhibition at chess. He became good from studying chess in his mind in soviet prison (without any physical board). What a chad! It's basically unheard of for an amateur to beat a world champ, let alone the GOAT... th-cam.com/video/tzyrm-v4zYk/w-d-xo.html Thank me later
Very disappointing to see Bari get so political about Bibi resigning. I guess once a leftist always a leftist
hotzaat shem ra
Proverbs 10:31
The mouth of a righteous [man] putteth forth wisdom; but the froward tongue shall be cut out.
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Mr.sharansky you make weapons supply sounds dichotomic as if it points on amy moral understanding
How can he say Israelis are for human rights? Baffling how the conversation in Israel completely ignores Palestinian human rights, international rule of law, war crimes, settlements, the general treatment of people in the ocupied territories.. it’s like those issues didn’t even exist! I understand having different opinions about these things but Israelis seem to just be OK ignoring they exist.. It is quite scary.
Why didn't Arab Palestinian leaders make Gaza into Singapore with all the billions they received? Imagine what that would have shown the world: “Look what Palestinians can do!” Instead, as soon as Hamas was elected, Hamas terrorists launched rockets at Israel, built tunnels and military bunkers under Gaza, and turned Gaza into a military camp. That is a betrayal of the Palestinian people. By the way, after Egypt captured Gaza and Jordan had the West Bank, from 1948-1967, why didn't they just declare Palestine as an independent nation rather than keeping the territories? Also, no Palestinian leaders criticized them for it, certainly not Arafat. Jordan betrayed the Palestinian Arabs with the help of Pakistan’s Muhammad Zia-Ul-Haq who helped King Hussein massacre 25,000 Palestinians in 1970. Rather than creating a flourishing society, Palestinian people are betrayed by fanatics and corrupt leaders. Israel is a tiny country that just wants to live in peace and that is why they gave the Sinai to Egypt in 1982 and Gaza to the Palestinians in 2005. You know who else is betrayed by the Arab world? The Arab people of Syria and Yemen who are killed by the hundreds of thousands and no peep from Egyptians, Jordanians, and Palestinians.
Palestinian human rights are being trampled upon by the leaders they elected-Hamas-NOT ISRAEL. Educate yourself!
There are 2.1 million Arabs in the State of Israel. Muslim Arabs have more rights in Israel than in any other Arab country. Under Israeli law, Arab residents in Israel have the right to apply for Israeli citizenship, they are entitled to municipal services, and Arabs have municipal voting rights. They have representatives in the Israeli Parliament, the Knesset, as evidenced by Muslim Arabs elected to Israeli parliament (Mansour Abbas, Hamas Amar, Youssef Atauna, Yasser Hujirat, Walid al-Huashla, Iman Khatib-Yasin, and more), judges in the Supreme Court of Israel (one of which is Khaled Kabub). Arabic has a special status under Israeli law and it is spoken by Israeli Muslims, Christians and Druze, as well as by Jews who originate from Arab countries. Negev Bedouins, a Muslim minority which includes about 12% of Israeli Arabs, tend to identify more as Israelis than other Arab citizens of Israel. Many Negev Bedouins serve in the Israel Defense Forces. Roughly 5,000 Palestinians living inside Israel currently volunteer to serve in the Israeli military. Israel has broad anti-discrimination laws that prohibit discrimination by both government and non-government entities on the basis of race, religion, and political beliefs, and prohibits incitement to racism. The Israeli government and many groups within Israel have undertaken efforts to combat racism. Israel is a state-party to the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination, and is a signatory of the Convention against Discrimination in Education.
Why didn't Arab Palestinian leaders make Gaza into Singapore with all the billions they received? Imagine what that would have shown the world: “Look what Palestinians can do!” Instead, as soon as Hamas was elected, Hamas terrorists launched rockets at Israel, built tunnels and military bunkers under Gaza, and turned Gaza into a military camp. That is a betrayal of the Palestinian people. By the way, after Egypt captured Gaza and Jordan had the West Bank, from 1948-1967, why didn't they just declare Palestine as an independent nation rather than keeping the territories? Also, no Palestinian leaders criticized them for it, certainly not Arafat. Jordan betrayed the Palestinian Arabs with the help of Pakistan’s Muhammad Zia-Ul-Haq who helped King Hussein massacre 25,000 Palestinians in 1970. Rather than creating a flourishing society, Palestinian people are betrayed by fanatics and corrupt leaders. Israel is a tiny country that just wants to live in peace and that is why they gave the Sinai to Egypt in 1982 and Gaza to the Palestinians in 2005. You know who else is betrayed by the Arab world? The Arab people of Syria and Yemen who are killed by the hundreds of thousands and no peep from Egyptians, Jordanians, and Palestinians.
Palestinians have been attacking Jews when Palestinians also included Jews as recently as the 1920s (Jews were called Palestinians From the time Hadrian in 125AD added Palestina to the the ancient name Israel/Judea .Arabs only first arrive
500 years later in 636 AD)
Israel is simply afraid of the in your face Palestinian violence and the over the top terror attacks .Not a racial thing
Israel has two Arabs on it’s Supreme Court 47% of pharmacists in Israel are Arabs.Israelis would embrace Palestinians but because of Palestinian murderous hatred
one of Israel’s arms are in a defensive posture We look forward to the day when both arms are free to hug Palestinians
Israel made a mistake replacing its historical name Palestine for the name Israel.
By doing so it caused confusion as to which people are the continuous Palestinian people . Though Jews were the first Palestinians the name
signaled that Israel was now under the auspices of the Roman Emperor Hadrian. The name Israel recalls the time before Rome rule.
Maybe read more and you'll understand...
progs are not libs. yes.
sole boxy
Sharansky disappointed me....he should talk about Israeli arrogance as a reason for October 7- they were warned but took no action. He lets Bibi off too easy. He brought Smotrich and Ben gvir to power....Also he opposed withdrawal from gaza. Big mistake by Sharansky.
I also supported Rabin's Oslo Agreements and Sharon's disengagement. I still think that these very bold and risky proof-of-concept moves were necessary in spite of their foreseen and actual disastrous outcomes. We owed this to ourselves and we have paid a very steep price for it, but I understand Sharansky's reasons to oppose them. His point was a mathematician's pure rationality, while risk-takers Rabin and Sharon actually gambled on the one-of chance this was the way to achieve our Number One strategic goal, Peace.
Sharansky is not for you only person with brain can understand him. He is a man of ethics and eternity. Those from Kaplan group stay away
Девушка глупа , она левая что еще ожидать ...
Bari Weiss had Refaat Alareer, a Palestinian poet, assassinated by an IDF sniper because of a silly joke she didn't understand. She is genocidal.
This is such a stupid statement and I can't believe anyone would believe this story. Please grow up!
October 7th is Putins birthday. Coincidence??? I think not
@@user-cw7yv2xz3d exactly. This was a birthday gift from Iran