In No Way Surprises Me At All
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 พ.ค. 2024
- The tv licence letters are annoying for many reasons, a lot of it are the threats, but a lot of it is the cost. If I paid the licence I wouldn’t be happy about this
Source - www.thesun.co.uk/news/2799604...
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The BBC has nothing I want to watch anyway
But they have re wrote history just for today audience!
@@randomsimpsonsquotes6033 that's one of the reasons why haha
i just repost the letters back to them, without a stamp. My uncle used to work at the post office and told me that the receiver will be charged for the letter.
@@AzguardMike BUT you have to clearly write on the FRONT of the envelope ''Return To Sender''. Anyway, keep up the good work.
@bazsnell3178 No, you don't! The return address is printed on the back 😂
100% agree... cancel cancel cancel people ... the BBC are wasting YOUR money!
Why hasn't someone tried taking the BBC to court for harassment ?
It would probably cost a small fortune - especially if you lose.
It was done some years ago. The case was successful. But the court decision was that it was not binding for future behaviour by TV Licencing.
In other words, everyone who wants to stop this nonsense has to sue, either individually, or as a collective group, on a case by case basis. That is expensive, and you might not win.
TV Licencing flatly refuse to register a complaint on the matter. I tried. They refused to even make a note of it. Arrogance.
i took a goon to court years ago for harassment, criminal damage and public disorder.
the TL:DR is i dont own a TV license. Opened door on a intruder chain latch and the goon refused to remove his foot and forced the door off the latch. When confronted by my partner who is a cop, the goon left and ragged the bin up the drive into the car and kicked the gate panels off. Was all caught on CCTV on the house, took Captcha to court and got a juicy pay out. During the weeks leading up to it, the house mysteriously got prank calls all hours of the day, a unmarked black van was parked out front and drove off whenever one of us approached it. Was later found to be the TV licencing goon stalking us and another court case was held.
Partner has since been forced to retire. The judge at the hearing ended it by saying to us, and i quote "and for gods sake, do us all a favour and buy a TV license." We refused of course.
Your faith in the judicial system is misplaced. You think they care? The only thing left this country cares about is power, and to some extent money much as this country is showing signs of being bankrupt if like me you stand to inherit quite a bit. From what I can gather, they ain’t got it!!!! They’ve spent it. Why our darling Government is over 1 trillion in debt, and they borrowed your savings, the equity in your house etc. cash it in and to me anyway, it’s pretty obvious they ain’t got it. Because they’ve spent it though they’ve made plenty out of it so really, they’ve stolen it.
They are the last legal/illegal protection money racquet
The money the BBC could save just by stopping sending those stupid letters
This is why I don't engage with them even though I don't have a TV. Let the letters come & ignore them. It all costs the Beeb money.
An attitude that does you credit, sir! 👏🏻👍🏻
Trouble is the BBC is still getting fed by those who do "need" a licence.
Time to defund en masse maybe?🤔🤔🤔
Absolutely pathetic waste of money.
Giving out a 5 year contract when their Charter exspires in 3 year ??? What do they know that we don't ?
Labour government. Tax. Media tax.
I've been license free for 4 years.
9 here 🎉
I have since the late 00's. If I know a letter is from TV Licensing it goes straight in the recycling.
10 here. Saved over a grand. 👍
4 yrs in August.
So what?
The last three years or so without a telly have been absolute bliss. There is life outside of the box. I no longer get stressed out and wound up with continual banal adverts or searching fruitlessly for something of interest to watch. No more lies and propaganda forced on my person. I have discovered so much more on TH-cam.
When I retired, I thought I would be watching loads more tele. Quite the opposite. I have cancelled my licence and watch much less screen time.
I still watch stuff. Just more, you might say, deliberately.
Ditto. All TH-cam these days. Much more educational overall. News not lies (when you sort out the right channels)
I thought I might be bored when I retired, over 15 years ago. I soon found out that I was doing _so much_ - and I do almost nothing that I do not enjoy, or that does not lead to enjoyment - that I cannot now imagine how on earth I ever found time to go to work!
Exactly the reason i ditched the Licence too! and agree its far less stressful and much more enlightening watching online stuff!
So very true I’m the same 😊
I take huge exception to the Sun referring to me, and others like me, as 'licence dodgers' when I have not had, nor needed a licence, not watched TV in my home, and had no television receiver in my home, for more than 40 years.
No dodging going on in Sine Towers!
How dare they.
They should call us "woke indoctrination tax dodgers" instead.
@@ph8077 Sorry, no, I resent being accused of dodging _anything_ wrt the tell lie licence!
I have never acted illegally, even when I had my late mother - a true TV addict! - to stay with me in the mid 80s. I must say, though, that not having a TV meant she didn't ever _over_ stay ...
Same, I quit tv when I lost my brother in 2014. There was nothing I could watch without feeling worse, I gave to my elderly neighbour, a flat screen Sony. Not missed it.
Use of the word, "dodgers" by the "Sun" to describe those who do not need a TV licence, is unsurprising. Rags such as this, given a choice between punchy and accurate, will always go for punchy.
@@anonnemo2504 True - and 'rag' is the most accurate, even if not punchy, way to describe that tabloid, anyway!
If I did watch TV, I'd be interested in ITV and Channel 4, but not sure why I'd have to pay the BBC for that.
Absolutely mate. I don't know how they get away with charging us to watch another companies content..
Surely those letters are tantamount to blackmail, or demanding money with menaces?
You'll find your local police will support the use of the letters...
Meanwhile, the BBC has described the vandalisation of a cinema in London today as a 'vigil'. A new low.
I caught that as well - apparently painting graffiti all over a private building is now acceptable.
@kevinfroude8679 Unbelievable, isn't it? Saw it on the Telegraph site and had it watch it twice. Couldn't believe what I was hearing.
Oh yeh the BBC describing Hamas as freedom fighters, saw the cinema story on Tousi's and Potkins channels. I don't trust a word from the BBC and MSM as a whole..
OK youtube won't let me post what I want to say.. Saw this on a couple of channels on TH-cam..
@TheGameEmporium. The cinema, The Phoenix in East Finchley is one of the oldest in the UK. It opened in 1912 and is really quite beautiful inside, the art Deco interior takes you back in time!
Great to see Black Belt Barrister just put out another video referring back to you. Always good when the helpful channels also help each other.
Hate how the BBC call themselves "Auntie" Time the BBC went or show adverts.
We can forget adverts ever being shown under the BBC banner. The BBC don't want to, as they much prefer their funding handed to them on a plate and no government would ever allow it.
So if this figure is just for postage charges, then you have to add on the costs for Capita who employ their pop gun army of "Enforcemant Officers" otherwise known as Goons. Totally ridiculous. Glad I no longer need a TV Licence.
Frankly i am very angry and offended at being described in the Sun rag as a "licence fee dodger", simply because i (and i suspect many others as well) don't need a licence!.
It doesn't really have much to do with not needing a licence, it's simply a matter of not paying for one. You an watch whatever you like, whenever you like. Who's going to know, and what exactly could do?
They don't help themselves by wanting almost £30 a month for the first 6 months. Thats almost 10% of my monthly money. (Not disposable income, my ACTUAL income)
Can you imagine if Netflix sent you letters like the BBC TV license letters when your year or month is up? Netflix would be in court TODAY.
Edwards is gone now and if they got rid of Big Ears they’d be £2,000,000 to the good…..what a load of tossers they are. 😂😂
And i am happy to be one of the monthly postal winners. All go in the bin
I've just received the "dreaded" red letter. It'll be interesting if the Goon knocks on the door, because there's a bloody great SOLD sign in front of the house. And I haven't watched the BBC for years anyway, it's all crap.
I don't think the colour makes a difference, they just like to change them around to scare people. I've had a few reds, loads of white, some cream/brown ones, but not had the very rare green one yet!
Why don't the bona fide non licence payers get together and sue the BBC for a major harassment case, which is what it is.
Because it would be a waste of time and money, perhaps?
got a letter this morning ..... 8th investigation into me started in the last 5 years ... still dont know my name
I dont watch the bbc or live tv THEREFORE I am not a dodger. I dont use the product so I DONT NEED TO PAY!
The cost of sending all those letters and the goons must exceed the money recovered in fines.
They couldn't run a brewery !
I went into the bank today & cancelled my direct debit, just waiting for my letter now, ha ha. Thank you mate for all of your hard work.
Good shout out from Black Belt Barrister. Keep them coming. You're well on target again.
Hello mate... I've watched a few of your videos recently and yesterday I got a letter from TV Licensing..!! And I'm actually chuffed to have got it 😂... They got my name right.. "The Legal Occupier".. 😂
I'm loving the envelope, with it's special window showing in bright red lettering "Official notice: investigation opened".. 😂 And the letter itself is very scary lol.... I've got an official warning that they are carrying out an investigation at my address blah blah blah, and if they don't hear from me, then I will be getting a visit from their enforcement team..!! 😮😮😮 And I can't wait lol.... I am so looking forward to letting them know that they are not officers, not enforcement of any kind, that they are sales people with a product I do not require, and to say goodbye politely as I shut the door 😂😂
I do like the PS at the bottom of my letter though... "P.S. If you have recently bought a licence, thank you. You do not have to reply to this letter"..!!!
Anyway, highly amused and looking forward to my visit 😂😂
Keep up the good work mate and I look forward to more of your videos...
All the best fella
Had a visitor recently. Nice chap. Departed when i said "No thankyou. Don't need one, but thanks for calling".
I agree with everything you say about the TVL, calling me a DODGER is very discriminating. Like you I do not need one as I do not watch the Dross and Propaganda that they push out. I do pay subscriptions to other entertainment channels because I do watch them, to me that is a fair choice.
I would not even wipe my arse with the sun newspaper.
You might have to.
So that's at least 1 letter a month or 12 a year to every household that's licence free !!
Am collecting a good supply of paper incase there's ever a bog roll shortage again !!
Please be aware that paper won't flush. Nor does kitchen roll.
Advice from a plumbers wife.😂👍
The BBC thinks its USP is that it doesn't show adverts and that makes it special and important, even though it shows the same dreary programmes and endless repeats all the other channels show.
I have left them "no alternative", the investigation is in its "final stages" .
Their letters have a very ominous tone.
I'm actually looking forward to a visit.
I haven't watched TV for over 6 years now, I'm not breaking the law, I'm too busy to be bothered with MSM. Plus, as a straight white male why would I pay to be gaslit, lied to and verbally abused by complete strangers in my living room? I could and have had women that have done that. 😂
I wonder how much the BBC makes from UKTV's advertising revenue?
I have 20 unopened letters, the last one said would i be in on Good Friday :-) so last one was March we should not open them and repost them so they pay a lot more postal charges :-)
its called a TAX fiddle
Received a letter today
"officers have now been authorised to visit"
🙄
I have been writing my list for any prospective MPs who come knocking on my door over the coming weeks. These will be another question I will be asking about, not just the licence itself, but the harassment that is allowed to happen by a government sponsored organisation.
I can't believe how many letters they send. It's a bit rude considering the cost of living crisis and can't be very climate friendly. It's beyond menacing.
Yes, a subscription service!
Hi my names brian and I have been licence free for 8 years, I have never been tempted by The BBC to fall off the wagon
169 million£ 2 years not bothering would fill that black hole shortfall in !!!!!!
Ive been having multiple letters even though I've told them i dont need one... the guy said there has been issues with the letters and to ignore them... the latest letters came in a blank envelope threatening a visit from an officer... they already know i don't need one...
I save them up for when I run out in the toilet
No, save them as evidence for the class action court case!
@@valkyriedd5849 court no chance my life is my way no court we liv the way we always did
Must be a slidey wipe then .. ugghh yuck 🤣🤣👍
I think you’ll find it is called MONEY LAUNDERING , they just make it look like they are doing a wonderful job .
Why is money laundering?
Just had the buggers at my door tonight , told them "no thanks" and shut the door. Just a bit worried cos you can see my tv from the front door. How would they know I'm just watching Prime and not live tv?
I just hope they don't tack it onto the council tax or broadband instead. Makes avoiding it difficult
This video made my day I receive 2 letters a month from the bbc trying to force me into paying for something I don’t want and it’s costing them money 😂😂😂
When the letters arrive with a prepaid envelope to buy a license, fill it with other junk mail you've received and drive their costs higher. If everyone did that...
And make sure it is overweight
Good idea, but I’ve had about 100 of these letters, and NONE had an envelope for replies. Maybe you are a special case, IDK.
@@booboyBL I've honestly not had one for a while, so they may have changed things up since the last one I received.
I’ve just gone licence free. Not had any letters yet but I will be keeping all of them in case of any future class action law suit against Capita for harassment
Latest letter I’ve got reads ‘ Official notice: investigation opened ‘ which shows through a clear window on the front . Nice ,the postman was laughing. BBC - Go whistle 😂
Isn't £33m about 5 minutes of the virtue signalling knob-end Lineker's time at current rates?
Oh come on! in 5 mins you could also munch on 2 to 3 packs of Walkers Crisps whilst watching Mr L
@@steveingram5245 🤢
@@steveingram5245 Thierry Henry & David Beckham have taken over that gig...yeah, even on demand has ads! 😁
Money makes the World go round........
Final stages of the investigation and they don't even have your name on the paperwork, Some investigation! 😆
A five year deal? Doesn't this take us beyond the expiration of the current Charter. Not overly optimistic they're serious about coming off the public teet.
I moved into a new property and I was receiving a letter once a month. I've declared I don't need one so now I'm waiting on the letter to say someone is visiting.
I reckon you need to dress up as the artful dodger for ambience.. 😂
If I was on the dole or low paid I would find it hard to pay all the bills......Council Tax, Water Broadband, I would have to give up Driving that's for sure. If I had too pay TV Licence don't think I could do it. even if you never watch a BBC show.
TV licenses fall by fifty thousand in Scotland.
Since stopping the licence I actually view more TV. I've found on demand much better and TH-cam is great viewing with channels such as yours and catching up on all the old films I love. No way going back with politics rammed down my throat with the BBC. Catch up is also great for the rest of the family.
I return all their letters to sender. If everyone did that they would stop sending them.
Hi Jon, I have never regretted cancelling my tv licence in September 2022. I rang up tv licence and told them I no longer needed it, got back £80 ! I haven’t had any letters as yet or a goon visit. I enjoy watching what I want when I want, thanks for the tip about Sky News as used to watch that when had tv licence.
BBC Studios and their £B a year. And you still get screwed on the licence fee. They dont pay,alot of people in showbusiness hate them. ITV are the same,use you and dont pay.
Two things; more households have cancelled than ever before so this cost will only ever increase. Secondly, the BBC are happy to waste this money because they will use it as a selling point to bring in a media tax on our broadband or council tax bills, by saying look what we'd save if that's brought in.
I'm going to assume they'll tax our broadband, as that will bring in the younger people such as students.
Freely has launched I believe which brings Freeview channels via the Internet and I think that's the future of TV. Makes sense to tax broadband then. Enjoy not paying while we can!
Funny how they will visit you in the morning or evening but not in the afternoon !
I got my first letter today.
Congratulations, welcome to the club 😁
Personally I don’t give a toss what the sun says! They’ve always reported a load of crap 🤪🤣
Licence free since December 2019 and haven't looked back. Watch all my tv programs on demand where and when i want.
We cancelled the tv license when my Dad died in December and told tv licensing the reason. Last month a letter came telling him an investigation was being opened as he did not have a license and urging him to purchase one immediately!!
I would write - yes, _write_ as in handwrite - back, telling either 'to whom it may concern' or the signatory of the most recent letter, that as they were previously informed in December of last year, Mr J Bloggs no longer resides here at 27 Acacia Avenue.
As a consequence, this address is now legally unlicenced and will remain so.
All further correspondence for Mr Bloggs should be sent to his new address which is Plot 15, St Whoseit's Cemetery, Church Rd, Sometown and NOT to 27 Acacia Avenue.
I would ask for acknowledgement that this letter has been received and acted upon, and sign off as The Legal Occupier of 27 Acacia Avenue.
Then I would splash out and send it Recorded Delivery - and wait to see what happens.
More seriously, you could also write back asking if they have ANY IDEA how distressing it was to get this letter addressed to Mr Bloggs, your dad, when you had explicitly informed them of the reason for cancelling the licence. Their record keeping is obviously in a shambles and do they have no compassion whatsoever? Again tell them you expect a response on this, and send it off by registered post.
Make them face up to the consequences of their heartless, incompetent actions.
Remember these are the people who gave a lady with Downs Syndrome, no competency to manage her own money and no real understanding or awareness of TV licences, a _criminal record_ for not being able to produce one on a visit by their disgraceful goons.
You do still get the sh!tty letters if you call them up to cancel the licence.
I phoned up in March 2023. I was polite and the lady on the phone was helpful and it was cancelled.
August/Sept 2023 i started getting the harrassing letters to 'the occupier'.
Before Christmas 2023 I had Five, the last one the threatening one saying they will visit in December - day or evening, weekday or weekend.
These letters only made me MORE Determined that they will not get one penny from me.
So far, no visit and one more letter a month ago.
They remind me of the Mafia running a protection racket.
STUFF 'EM
Not addressed to me the "legal occupier" isn't me or variations on a theme, when I did have a TV licence they sent me threat-o-grams with my actual name on, because they cocked up. I stopped watching television all together a few years later I don't even bother with catch-up or any of the other things that would be legal to do. Buildings mail is downstairs anything from them I throw out as I leave the building unopened we used to have a rubbish shut, I look forward to just throwing away their next letter!
We got a letter this week, under investigation, 😅 the letter was addressed to THE OCCUPIER, INVESTIGATING WHO?
I binned it.😅
Notice how the latest letter reads to "let them know if you have tv receiving equipment", suggesting that if you've got a tv, you need a license? Cheeky sneaky bastards!
BBB has your back, you are a legend, like he is. Got great clips on PCNs and FCNs.
I don't get visits from TV licence now. I revoked their implied right of access. I had a goon call last year, refused to indentify himself at first, I called police who came out while he was there and told copper I revoked his implied right of access, copper told him if he didn't leave the property he would be arrested for aggravated trespass
I post all mine back, costing them even more. 😂
a credit from black belt barrister👍👍
Remind me when to change the the budgie well I have to poo on something😂❤
BBB says hi.
Regarding your comments at the end. I have to pay a tv license because of a bad bad loop hole in the law I wish they would close. Why should I have to legally pay money to the bbc if I only watch itv4, e4, film 4 and 4 on demand. That loophole sucks.
If they shifted to the same model ITVX uses, they'd get more money out of me on occasion than they do now, which is nothing. I might just buy a subscription for a month to watch a few things that I want to, I won't with the current model as their behaviour is shameful.
Makes me wonder amongst other things, where is the paper being sourced from, never see a forestry commission logo on the letters.
Imagine if someone was able to link TV licensing letters to rainforest clearing, wouldn't be shocked but more bad press for the beeb
33.8 mill on letters wow there must be a canny few not paying hehe.
Over here 👋
Haven't had a TV license in well over a decade and don't miss terrestrial television at all! The one thing that worries me is the probability that the license fee will eventually be replaced with an internet tax. The double whammy will be after the tax has been imposed the Beeb will then do ads anyway to raise revenue!
Caved in this week ! Finally contracted them this week following threat of a search warrant to search my empty house !!!! That I don’t need a license !!!! Haven’t got a fishing license. Chain saw licence only a driving licence and never get contacted by those authorities!!!!!
Why isn’t this being investigated as harassment to those who don’t need a license. Could be another Post Office scandal
I've just watched an interesting video by The Black Belt Barrister, referring to your previous video. I recommend everyone to watch it
There moto is "listen & obey"
BBC sent me a cheque around £50 to reimburst me money they wet supposedly Owed me. They said if you cash this cheque you are acknowledging you no longer require a tv licence. So I cashed the cheque. Then a few weeks later I get a threat letter telling me to pay for a tv licence.
I am not a "licence fee dodger". I just don't legally require one. But keep the letters rolling - keeps Royal Mail in business and gives me plenty of paper to make firelighters. I do pay for whatever streaming service I'm using at the time and sometimes that includes Britbox via ITVX. I'm legal and can't be harassed into something I don't need.
just send them back return to sender
Black Belt Barrister says hi 😁
So the people who do pay for a TV licence are paying to chase people who don't need a licence... BONKERS!
£33M…Gary Lineker’s salary???…
Its like so many government tax payer funded departments (believe it or not, there are some who are self funded and actually give money back to the treasury, like the Patent Office or whatever they call it this week), its not their money and they are not really needing to make a profit, they don't answer to shareholders and they don't need to worry about the money to keep them going, so they care nothing for wasting it. They aren't the only ones, as every government and tax payer funded job I have had has had the same level of waste, be it spending on things that loose money, wasting supplies or the most annoying when you work there, management that have so little to do that they spend half the time just wandering about chatting while telling staff they aren't doing enough work and could do more (four different ones I have worked in have all been the same).
You can see why so many government departments like the BBC would benefit from being privately owned or at least managed, as it would make them more financially efficient. That said, many ex government run things like utilities that make their owners money hand over fist, prove that if state owned an run well (so a impossibility as for one, to many politicians and their backers make money from how it currently is, plus they would instantly start to loose money as 3rd party contracts to siphon off cash at inflated prices would be the first thing that would happen if they were state run) they could pay into the treasury as well on top of allowing for easier price regulation. But as with all things, its about how much profit politicians and their backers can make, not how much they can help us.
They should be privatised with only the news at a basic level and parliamentary services retained. Privatisation requires accountability and maximisation of profit, so Its unlikely that would ever happen.
they would probably save money by scrapping it if you take into account the paper and printing cost which will all be automated so they have to pay for the service for that as well on an industrial scale and the royal mail delivery costs and the capita enforcement wages than actually spending all that to enforce it they would lose the income from the licence but it probably evens out with enforcement fees.
the sun is to newspapers what the bbc is to tv !!!! you do the maths
I've wall papered the privy with all my TV licensing letters.