The New Ford Bronco Raptor Is The Most Insane SUV Ever! But Is it Worth $80K!?
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Ford sent me an email to ask if I had interest in getting on the waiting list. I replied yes. They responded with an apology for getting my hopes up. Thanks a lot Ford.
Rather get for any trim of Bronco in same equal price the full electric F150-e Lightning..
That $1500/month payment will get old after about 6 months of driving back and forth to work.
Something people fail to realize when they purchase it. Definitely not worth it with manual seats and those aftermarket stick on fenders. For the price that needs to be part of the design and body colored.
The TRX was super expensive but it was something special, and had state-of-the-art exterior and interior. It didn't look less like a truck and more like a luxury vehicle. So it was a special environment just to sit in.
@@krane15 if you're doing what this thing is meant for you want manual seats
my rental house on the Golf course is $1800 month lol
This is not meant for people on close to minimum wages or jobs or rent that cost $1800.
Why would that be your only vehicle?
$80K??? We should be asking if it's worth $125K because we all know it sure isn't gonna be sold for $80k off the lots.
Dealers really do ruin it.
@@joshuasterling2144 The Dealers in my mind already knew that Ford was going to follow Teslas online only model and cut out dealers. So they’re making all they can while they still exist.
All it takes is Customer is refusing to pay that price and waiting a year if necessary But we know Americans so that won’t happen
Yup, Ford dealer markup is ridiculous. If Ford doesn't discipline the dealers (do they even care?) this will be an ongoing disappointment and force me to another brand. I remember a corporate statement addressing this issue, yet nothing has been done to remedy it other than saying EV's will be online order only. Doesn't fix the ICE price gouging...
I’m new to cars and know dick about dealerships. Why is 80 not good/where does 125k come from?? Thanks
@@crazebamm As of now the Raptor is limited production. Dealers are taking advantage of that demand and putting huge premiums over sticker. This curbs enthusiasm for the product and in the worst case can actually kill an entire product line. Pricing is carefully set for the customer who is interested vs profit necessary for the manufacturer. Because the dealer is the middle man they can screw up that balance and destroy the desire for that product. What was once a great car is no unobtainable.
As long as people keep paying this price it’s gonna stay that way. Absolutely nuts to spend that just to say you have a bronco.
People are stupid... Good thing for Ford ;)
@Paolo imagine calling successful people stupid 😂
@@unitaper I think the term is “ more money than brains “ it’s a fad like skinny jeans and bad beer. Most of them will never see dirt ( probably a good thing), engines are failing, yet weekend warriors still paying over retail.
There is a whole world of wealthy tech company employees/executives that most people don't really grasp how many there are. They are goons buying these rediculous prices vehicles.
@@mexifry222 yup. Skinny jeans and bad beer. 😂
Remember when we could actually buy vehicles? This thing will sell for 100k plus.
Toyotas r usually in stock lmao
That's why Fords getting rid of car dealerships. I don't know how long it will take but they are going dealership free
@@insooleedat1asiandude that because no one wants those outdated pos'
Yep Ford is supposedly working on that problem GM as well but I heard you can order it and should be able to get it for MSRP
Those were the days. I love how they release a new one while thousands of people await orders rhat they already put money on
In 110° heat, and after 2 cups of coffee, Tommy becomes Doug Demuro.
"...Tommy becomes Doug Demuro." -- Libertarian Neighbor
"THIS, is the new Ford Bronco Raptor..." 😄
-- BR
...were gunna look at its quirks and feeeeetures and givit a Doug-score
THIIIIIIIS!
Imagine getting on a waiting list, paying a 20k premium and then having the engine fail at 2k miles. 😬
😬
Did you do that in one continuous shot? That was more impressive than the vehicle! Great job to both of you!
If the avg selling price of a 4 door wildtrack is $75k, there’s no way this goes for anything less than $100k… MSRP means nothing now especially with Bronco’s
I remember when msrp was always a joke, but in the opposite direction.
@@garysarratt1 yup literally in 2020 you could get any half ton for $12k under sticker. Dont think we’re going back to that any time soon…
You can check on their website. you can "build" a Bronco Raptor for $70k.
You have to order to get MSRP. Dealerships that are marking up over msrp will be disciplined by Ford. Spoke with a dealership that explained the entirety of the situation to me. These greedy dealers will get what's coming to them. Make no mistake.
@@dylan5367 most of the time, but dont be deceived, plenty of stories of people ordering custom built online and the dealership where they pick it up STILL marks it up. Literally need a notarized purchase agreement in writing to prevent these slimeballs from screwing you over.
It's a 55 k vehicle (like most premium vehicles) with a 40k mark up based on the insane vehicles market and we should be fighting the industry. These prices are stupid
The normal Bronco badlands is $55k.
@@2011blueman correct which is over priced
The prices are about to start rapidly dropping as inventory is starting to surge with auto part suppliers and gas prices surging. Yes, it is over priced. The Premium trim of the Bronco is really a mid 40s to 50k vehicle. People that bought these cars in a peak market are going to start hating themselves.
The stupidity of the average American consumer figures heavily into an automakers business plan.
@@dakotareynoldsakafloridama2723 it’s not overpriced, it’s called the free market, supply and demand my friend. I thought Americans loved capitalism… well, this is it
They have a massive engine issue. The motors have been blowing left and right.
You should see the Ford forums.... its a bigger problem than I thought. I canceled my order, maybe next time.
New design problem or what? The 2.7s in the f150 and mustang hold up fairly well
Valve drops in especially the 27L
@@stacksmasher Can you share the links? Thanks!
@@dougfredricks2017 *2.7
No 5.0L V8 under the hood? Has Ford missed the fact that Jeep has a 392 V8 Wrangler?
And Ford has years of pushing turbo v6's, even in their GT.
@@gogofastful unreliably
Sounds like a kids toy when you Rev it up. I miss all the V8’s
That’s why I have a Jeep 392! Not a fan of the V6s.
A V-8 motor wouldn’t fit for some reason
@@Saabkenny04 unfortunately the v8 didn't even cross fords mind. Not even with a special order request ..
@@MrRjezonie now that's a nice powertrain. Love my 392.
That color... Oooff so good... Also I think I am glad they did fenders that way as opposed to the body colour wider fender, that fender extension will do a great job of protecting the body coloured fender out on the trail and be much easier to replace.
Good point! Hopefully cheap sacrificial fender extensions!
Let's be honest though.
99% of the people who buy this. Won't take it off road.
I take a stock Tundra in more places than these capable vehicles will go.
Just like the raptors. Mall crawlers.
@@robertprydon640 yes
hi
I have big bend in a 2dr thats green luv it
The extra flares look fine and in the mud you absolutely have to have them if you don't want to be covered in mud. If they had extended the flare as part of the fender, that would look goofier not to mention if it took a hit. I suspect that the flares can be removed if necessary.
Who will spend 80-90000 on a new vehicle to drive it in the mud and rocks and make it dirty. Most ppl that buy this wont go offroad
The flares should be removable as ford made the actual side panels easily removable in the normal bronco models incase you took damage on a trail. You can easily pop them off on the inside of the hood
@@kevinhood9781 ...you ask "who" would drive their $80k+ vehicle through the mud...well, that is Land Rover's entire marketing campaign. They want you to buy their $80k vehicle and drive it through the mud (thinking it won't leave you stranded). It is literally in EVERY Land Rover Commercial and print ad. Without mud, rocks, sand, and streams, Land Rover would not exist (more or less).
@@kevinhood9781 I would, but unfortunately it's not in my budget. I will be taking my badlands mudding once it arrives.
I agree on the styling. Imo that's why the DR and the Bronco R looks so badass. The fender was brought out with little flares instead of the other way around. It sucks how everything is so expensive these days but the vehicles themselves are awesome.
The Bronco Raptor is not worth the price to me. I’m happy with my Badlands 2 door manual with high package for $47K. I received a “golden ticket” from Ford to order a Bronco Raptor, but I declined. Buying it for resale was a thought, but if the economy tanks between ordering and delivery I didn’t want to get stuck with it at $80K.
Smart man...
It won’t tank for rich people
Should've just shoe-horned the 5.0 in the engine bay and kept it naturally aspirated. Otherwise, it's pretty dang awesome.
Especially since the 5.0 doesn't make significantly less power than this 3.0 TT V6. At least the one in the F-150.
@@damilolaakanni This is inaccurate....its extremely close compared to the V8 in the F150 (395/400), and less than 5.0 put into past Mustangs 460/480.
@@RealcarTV which is why I said the 3.0 TT V6 doesn't make much more power than the F-150's 5.0 V8.
The 5.0 has no where near the torque band of the 3.0 TT. The 3.0 is a much better choice.
@@nm-qt2hb true, but most people want the V8 for the sound and predicted reliability. They believe the V8 will sound better and that it will last much longer because it doesn't have turbos.
F-450 and 550’s had aux switches back turn of the century. But glad to see them being used here as well. Its a useful option in many cases.
My 2006 F-250 Super Duty has factory Aux switches
Wonder how much over MSRP this one will run and how long before the engine blows and recalls start?
engine recalls already started
2000 miles into the break (down) in period
It's funny because I've learned that breaking stuff goes hand in hand with off roading. I would be way too scared to break something on an $80k truck. That being said the only people that are taking these offroad in the conditions it's built for are people who can throw that kind of money around. Which you know, more power to them!
Well said. I completely agree.
I wheel my F150 Raptor pretty hard, break something and it's a good excuse to upgrade. ;)
Even though I can afford it, there are times when I think, "Why don't I just buy a side by side for this?" :D
@@bigslacker666 I've been trying to look out for an old Toyota pick up/hilux to turn into a rock crawler. After nearly flipping my 4Runner I had to rethink what I was doing. This is a lot of talk coming from a 30 something year old dude who's only recently gotten into off roading. But I don't see anything wrong with dreaming big :D
Eh, I’d hedge on the idea they don’t have the money to throw around. Very likely there are substantial and lengthy loans involved. It’s an American past time to live at or above means.
@@TangoTangoAlpha I completely agree.
Sounds pretty good. Still would like a V8 option though.
needs a v8 v6 and 4 sucks
I think if they gave it a coyote engine it'd manage to get single digit mpg ratings though
For $80k, your are 100% right. There is zero reason for a 4cyl American made vehicle to cost $80k+. Zero
The bronco raptor R coming soon
I can't see this getting a V8 ever. Because it's a) all assembled in the same plant with the rest of the V6 ECOBOOST line-up, and b) electrification is coming everywhere. A V6 Ford Performance POWERBOOST/Hybrid however... imagine instantaneous electric torque on the hole shot or for rock crawling???
Can’t wait till the new Bronco OJ edition comes out.
For the dealer or manufacturer - YES
we are long overdue for a hard recession. Things have been beyond ridiculous.
2:33. that's a messy engine bay. way to keep it clean Ford 🤦♂️
All the eco boosts look like rats nests
Nightmare
I couldn’t tell the difference between quite and “loud” mode.
I think it started in normal, then went to quiet and then baja/loud. A prompt on the screen/video to distinguish would've been nice.
My Ford has also active exhaust, unless it's evening (when I have automatic quiet mode disabled), that's how it be.
Videos do a terrible job at replicating exhaust sound. Must be heard in person.
It's because Tommy doesn't understand audio anymore than he understands cars.
@@chuckadams9131 That seems harsh...
No way that sells for $80K. Last week I saw a used Bronco on a lot for $76K. The dealers are asking way over MSRP because they overpaid for used vehicles when they couldn't get new ones. Now they have to charge YOU more for a new one to make up for the loss they will take on the used ones. Glad I bought new before the madness started.
Saw one here low low miles 67,000 and thats still way too high.
I saw a bronco about a month ago with big tires on it, I believe it was the sasquatch one, it was in a parking lot with the front wheels doing this / \, owner went over a pot hole at 60 km/h and broke a tie rod, he only owned it for like a week 😂
Sure you did buddy
@@JamesThomas-dn6ee i drive a tow truck, im the one that towed it “buddy”, my company sees about one bronco a month with a broken tie rod and it’s NEVER from an accident 🤣
FORD TOUGH to keep on the road.
@@ragdolltrucking lol sure buddy I believe you here is the flaw in your story you first said you saw it now you are saying you towed it lol. Also there is no wide spread tie rod issues for the bronco the major issue is the 2.7 engine now if you would have said you towed one with a blown 2.7 I would have believed you.
@@JamesThomas-dn6ee i towed the bronco from united blvd at petro Canada in Vancouver, i work for Coquitlam towing, United blvd is an industrial area littered with potholes, he was able to get it off the road by driving slowly but every time he tried to reverse the wheels did this /\, your just some random dude on the internet, it literally has no effect on my life if you believe it or not, but i do think its funny because i stood there talking to the guy for like 20 minutes pointing at and talking about his broken tie rod, get a job driving a tow truck and you’ll see it happen with your own eyes “buddy” 😂😂😂
Seems like the shocks would have been something to talk about
Tomorrow is the full interview with the engineer
Agreed. The suspension and other performance aspects are what justify the Raptor pricing
Overall it's a great package. I just wish everything didn't cost a house payment these days.
House payment ? $80,000 is more than we paid for our house......that was in 1982 though lol.
Tommy: “The most over the top, ridiculous 4 wheel drive”
Trackhawk: “Am I a joke to you?”
The real question is does this new bronco have the motor issue of the regular ones?? For 80k Let’s hope not.. I do love it! Ford put the 5.2 or 5.0 v8 inside it!!!
Yea i had a 85 bronco 2... an my main concern was its lack of power. It just needs a good v8 in there. Nothing major 300hp v8 with a great exhaust...an without all this ecoboost crap the price woukd be 35-45k. Loaded
Can't get worked up about any car whose combined MPG is 15mpg. Especially one that people take out of town for long adventure trips. Between the high factory sticker, the dealers raping you for more and the cost to drive, this thing is DOA for me.
Granted, I don't have the Raptor variant, but my 2.7 OBX is averaging around 21-23 MPG currently (combined highway and city).
If you can afford an 80-100k vehicle, you probably don’t care about mpg.
Get a Prius.
@@MM-cs2rt Nah. Maybe a Rivian. You know, cause I have choices.
@@chuckadams9131 sure you do.
$100,000 🇨🇦 for that ?! Premium Fuel , Synthetic Oil and a Mortgage payment on the Bronco. Excellent gauge cluster .
My dream Bronco for sure! Tho i will be getting a 2nd edition Raptor 4dr w/Gen2 - 2.7L GTDI & 37in tires! Can't wait. Great job Ford!! 👍👍
I have a Wrangler 392 and in my opinion no comparison. I also have a Explorer Platinum (same engine different tune). The Wrangler with a naturally aspirated V8 is much better the EcoBoost engines are just not reliable enough (even with early Hemi issues). The exhaust sound reminds me of a tricked-out Honda Civic (I hope it is just your recording). I now realize why Jeep didn't go with 35/37 tires stock. Having to widen the wheelbase, rear lights etc definitely will affect offroading. The Fender extensions can be removed so no big deal, would look worse with widened flares that can't be removed. Looks like Jeep went with letting the customer make mods rather than alter performance to meet standards. The Jeep suspension didn't need many upgrades for the 392, offroaders just wanted more power particularly the low end for rock crawling. The Bronco looks awesome and I do want one but will be badlands with sasquatch.
At $70k it almost sounds like a bargain. Everything is so damn expensive today
Most buyers are going to be paying a LOT more than $70k-$80k. Even if you were lucky enough to have your reservation converted to a raptor allocation, the dealership you're at is going to ask 20-30K over MSRP in order for you to take delivery.
0% chance they sell these at 70k
That green is nice. That price up here in Canada will be over 100k. Crazy. I’m with Tommy, those flares look very homemade. Cheap
Ford probably has difficulty getting suppliers to produce the flares because of supply chain issues and probably that’s the reason they look homage.. because they are.
I think the Canadian MSRP will be over $100K. The stealership mark-up will have these going for $120K minimum.
ca currency is worthless to usa like 70 percent
I only watched until I heard what was under the hood. Is the Bronco Raptor worth 80k? Not without a V8 in my opinion. It's probably capable and can go a lot of places off road but I'm happy with the 5.0 in my F150 which has 37s which was a lot less being a 2014. I'm not unwilling to drive a v6 but I'm not willing to pay over 50k for a vehicle with a v6 in it.
I agree think u could pick me up I know gas killing u but I’ll give u gas money and we can ride and beat tha living shit out of ram 1500
P R E A C H. I agree
But it has a baby engine with a turbo to move that weight.
@@robertmisiuk7137 I like driving vehicles until the wheels fall off. Turbos put more stress on the engine long term and when you tow generally you get about the same mpg. Also it's not that light at between 4300 lbs to 5300 lbs for the Bronco, my single cab with the 5.0 is around 5000. I'd still rather have a naturally aspirated v8 over a turbo v6 and I'd rather have a naturally aspirated v6 over a turbo i4 .
Plus nothing beats the sound of the coyote 5.0 with long tube headers. It doesn't matter how much horsepower, boost, or exhaust mods a v6 has its not going to sound as good as a v8. 99% of the time I'm cruising at highway speeds, the extra 20-30 hp or whatever of the v6 at peak horsepower doesn't doesn't do much for me most of the time.
@@iii7878 Just so you know I 100% agree. I was being sarcastic. Turbos are fine for light cars, but trucks should never have them unless they are diesel.
I passed on the Raptor opportunity: It's too wide and those flares are like clown shoes. I am jealous of the towing increase and the dash display, which actually looks slick and modern unlike the already dated looking one on the regular Bronco, but I still think I made the right move. If I spent a lot of time out on wide desert trails my feelings might change, but for narrower stuff in the mountains here it just didn't make sense, especially for the not insignificant cost increase.
You made the right choice, I think the Raptor is awesome is you want to mostly off-road in the desert. For everyone else that narrower one is the best choice.
Been debating on saving for one of these for AZ desert off roading. Flares would actually come in handy with all the sand/mud. Vehicles like this are great for the terrain in my area
I’m 50/50 with those flares
I saw the broncos iconic straight sides when you started and it all made sense. The flares look different for sure but it needs the flat sides to be a bronco I guess.
Flares are crap.the original flares were 50/50 lol
Plus now you have a wide vehicle yet short on interior space.
wait till you see the super bronco raptor. It has 5 foot wide wheel flares it also has flaps so you can generate some lift and increase the gas mileage to 17mpg. I digress, i’d nut all over this raptor bronco. thank goodness for the wash out interior
Those flares are horrible.
The flares are required for passing most if not all state inspections. They will most likely be removed or modified that’s why ford didn’t make it part of the body
That exhaust note doesn’t compare to a Jeep 392 😂
90k for a 392
@@Cm-ou3ml 10k gets you a lot of extra comparison wise
@@donaldliverance2597 80k = Street legal baha truck
90k = V8 Jeep
What??
🤣🤣👍
I'm sure the speakers give out a V8 growl inside tho!
Tommy, Your reviews and down to earth and real. Keep up the good work.
I remember when 80 or100k would buy an elite supercar a nice speedboat, or a 3 bedroom block house. Now, you get a truck, high insurance payments and the "privilege" of driving basically a common, upgraded, SUV or truck.
Great review as always.....
I'm anything but a Ford fan. But this thing is pretty cool. 80 G?
It ain't that cool!
The question a lot of these videos ask is "Is it worth it?" And the questions are never directly answered. Instead, they say "it is the top of the line vehicle in this lineup" or "the prices do compare with the competition." The real answer is "NO! These prices are not worth it." Please, journalists, start calling out these auto manufacturers and their insanely marked up prices.
they cant call out manufacturers because they would be cut off from early access to vehicles, which they produce content from.. in a way, they are a part of the marketing team
They ARE the marketing team.
Does the roof still sound like it’s making popcorn?
I completely agree about the flairs. That was the first thing I noticed even before I heard your comments.
It’s no 392 rubi…that’s for sure
It's a raptor not a garbage jeep , for real no comparison.
@@hotrod7603 I know, got to love the hairdryers and the independent front suspension instead of that V8 and solid axel...said no one ever.
@@hotrod7603 please. You would know articulation if it hit you on the head.
Death wobble 🥱
The 392 is still a Dumpster jeep at the end of day , don't disrespect Braptor comparing it with some cheap pos.
@@trailboss7504 bahahaha what ever you say 😂
Pay attention to inventory reports folks. You do not want to go out and pay 80 to 90k for a freaking V6 Bronco as inventory is starting to build up in auto parts suppliers signaling a recession. In 6 months you are going to see manufacturers pushing huge rebates to move these things off the lot.
1.5 years away from getting back to near normal
Been waiting for this; wasn’t sure whether it was going to happen. Doesn’t look like a raptor; it looks like a shop built monster! They probably did the flares because, while it’s not too hard to design expanded front fenders, it is VERY difficult to do it in the back, especially when your customers might take the doors off. It would look weird like that. But yeah, at least it has the same exhaust note…;) Awesome truck, though.
I saw 302 on the valve cover and thought "man a 5.0, that's exactly what the people want!" I was wrong. Why not drop a V8 in the Bronco like Jeep did with the Wrangler?
With gas prices close to $8 here in L.A, this might not be the best time for this truck to come out.
“I did that!l
Yeah did you catch the range when they were showing the digital dash? It looked almost full and only had 271 miles to empty. My display usually shows 533-633 miles.
People wanting this vehicle aren’t tripping over fuel prices.
the fenders looked bad from when i first saw them but seeing them up close it ain’t the worst definitely gives it a mean stance definitely will turn heads!
Those fender flares are similar to what a lot of guys bolt on for desert runner truck builds down here. Local to the area in Riverside county.
I just bought one with all the extras for 95k. Pretty good deal I think, considering you'd pay about 20k to upgrade a regular Bronco with this amazing suspension, 37s, etc, etc.
Frustrated buyers are already waiting months for a regular Bronco. Imagine the wait time for a Raptor!
Thanks for the walkaround. I wasn't interested in the "raptor" even if it was an option before I got my 2021 Badlands but I am really happy with my purchase now. I thought the fender flares were the reason for the extra width but I see they fattened up the whole thing. That wall off the grille is surprisingly big. Those rear lights are pretty terrible, too. My only 2021 regret is not having the option to get that green. It does look good. Looking forward to more videos.
I have an order for a 2023 Braptor at MSRP. It's a great value when consider everything that's included as standard equipment.
Poor jealous man. Sorry you couldn’t afford or get your hands on one! Such a silly comment.
I would put a full body wrap on my Bronco Raptor anyways be it Mossy Oak or a CanPat/MarPat Camouflage pattern on the entire body AND fenders!
You can even get the EXTRA THICK 1/16th inch thick vinyl wrap that also adds some tree branch scraping protection. In terms of the driving range, people are reporting, the on-board computers are getting smarter and more accurate in fuel consumption figures and I have found MANY Broncos are getting around 275 to 300 miles OFF-ROAD in heavy 4x4 terrain which is to be expected.
That is WHY I am putting the custom built combined bush-bar and heavy duty bumper with winch AND a swing out cage on the back for the FOUR 20 gallon Jerry Cans of fuel (80 gallons and 480 lbs total weight) which is balanced by the heavy duty custom-welded front bumper and heavy duty winch and light bar I will have. And once you take out the back seats and put in your custom 200 litre combo fridge/freezer and 3000 watt Li-Ion camping battery pack and portable solar panel setup, the weight is now full distributed and you can get 1200 miles+ of driving range on even the gnarliest and hilliest of trails.
The Bronco Raptor is ideal for me but I STILL can't decide whether to get the Bronco Raptor or the F150 Raptor --- I WISH I could get BOTH but I can only get one! The F150 Raptor carries more camp gear but the Bronco's shorter wheel base gets me to the deeper parts of the North Canadian back country of where the bigger fish are since a lot of people just can't/won't go as far into the back country that I am willing to go! With the setup I envision, my camp gear, my gasoline, propane, food and water supplies I would usually carry are enough to keep me in the backcountry for THREE MONTHS at a time if I drive a few tens of km per day to each deeeeeeep back country lake/river I would be fishing at.
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Great job with this review, well done.
There’s going to be a lot of people criminally upside down in vehicles from the last 2-3 years.
and people who leased two years before covid are buying out the lease and making 10k selling.
If they pay more than MSRP. There are plenty of Bronco Raptor future owners who have said their dealer is honoring MSRP. And a lot of reg Bronco owners doing the same. Raptors hold value EXTREMELY well. But yes, If you get wronged by your dealer, yes, this is very very possible.
The fender flares are just too much for me.
Agreed. They look like a tasteless aftermarket mod.
80k? The dealerships are gonna mark this up to 120k
For 96% of recorded dealership history, NOBODY EVER paid MSRP for anything. Now due to extreme shortage and some particularly compelling vehicles, people are asked to pay more and they have forgotten about the $BILLIONS of dollars the dealership industry has saved consumers over time.
I think the fenders and flares are they way they are for remove-ability... great vehicles were lucky to have these days...
The flares are terrible but I’m wondering if their hands were tied due to regulations. Wouldn’t surprise me if regulations say there can’t be too much space between the wheel covering and the wheel
That’s exactly what it is
Great job Tommy. To me that’s def a novelty Bronco. You almost don’t want to take it out and get it dirty. I’d be happy with a Black Diamond Sasquatch with the manual. Take it anywhere without feeling bad. Question is how long will that take to order?
I reached out to 20 dealers in the northeast and mid Atlantic. Poor customer service, and no one had a clue about how to order one.
When are you testing its power? I would expect HP eclipsing 500 for a raptor. It’s a well sorted vehicle but 80k is over priced.
I tend to agree despite the fact I have a Code orange one ordered. But if it feels shy of power I would think a tune should fix that, one advantage of turbo power. (Consider both F1 and Indy get by with turboed V6’s. 😂).. the Explorer ST makes 415 torque and 400 hp with a far less free flowing intake and exhaust system. And far less cooling. 500 hp should be no problem for those looking for those numbers. Myself, I’m more interested in torque on something spinning 37’s and climbing rocks. 440 tq should be plenty but if not again gains should be attainable with a tune. Just my $81,060.02…. 😂
I hope u buy 1 and come pick me up and we drink sun beer and smoke sum good bud and whoop sum track hawks asses let me know when u get it
@@rinaldocatria4386 well congrats u can come scoop me up also we’re gonna get alot of female attention and u know they love vehicles hope u don’t mind weed 💨
Gotta agree with Tommy on the fender flares. They look cheap and half hazard.
*HAPHAZARD
Open the hood to any Japanese,Korean suv and admire the engineering that goes into getting rid of the spaghetti bowl of tubing, wiring and smog devices and ask yourself where do you add the spaghetti sauce. No every element of a vehicle has to check all boxes. I could not imagine being three hours off of pavement and have something in that hood come loose. Just saying.
Saw one of these in MI last month. It’s a beast. Tires looked military spec.
I’m 6’4 and I sat in a regular one not the raptor and I thought if I was to go off road or be in a crash I would die. The head rails in the interior seem really low that would be a true head banger. I’m not sure but I only sat in it for 2 mins maybe I’m wrong I hope but the headroom is a safety issue
I'm 6 feet tall and I too thought it was built around someone not big n tall. But, I saw a guy taller n bigger than me driving one with doors removed and he looked like Gru from despicable me in that Bronco.
I promise besides the Ford GT, Ford vehicles has some the sloppiest engine bays I’ve ever seen
The Mustang bays aren’t bad either, but yes, the rest I agree with.
@@tcoppraptor I agree with you on that.
@@deverick4247 Yup got a 2019 Bullitt, it's a good blend of exposed and neat-ish. I think they claim "easier servicability," but at this point yes it looks sloppy. However, lot of room to work with and mainly no stupid plastic covers is a bonus.
True! BMW has some nice looking engine bays, but are disasters to work on. Wondering if Ford doesn't care what they look like or are intentionally making things easier to work on.
I was looking into buying a Bronco last month. Locally I could only find the bare bones models (60k) or a 85k Sasquatch model. I test drove it and yeah it’s ok, but honestly it seemed like too much money for it. It also felt like driving around in a tank, the window design blocked a lot of my viewing capabilities. This model seems more like it would be 80k but to me they are still overpriced. In my opinion they should be priced around 60k for the top models.
It will be years before the average person can afford one of these. Or sacrifice for a base model way overpriced.
Thats why i bought an h3t alpha alotta miles but $22k 😎.
I don't even own Ford, but what has to be put in consideration is that you getting no compromise no platform sharing special build with removable components max packed with offroad hardware... that's why it's not 60k like some base Navigator
@@tallll70 it actually shares a platform with the ranger
@@JamesThomas-dn6ee yes, i stand corrected, Wrangler maybe does not share platform but Bronco does in some degree, even Wrangler probably shares some switches and key fobs whatever, but the complexity of these types of vehicles is still most extreme with it's off road capability and removable parts
Great video. Thank you!
Jeep Wranglers are more fun because you can build them the way you want after-market. Bronco factory packages are just status symbols. I still haven’t seen one on a trail. Owners don’t want scratches on their investments, I suppose.
Jeep is easy to work on, very simple builds..mods are done at home fairly quick..not a Bronco, that engine bay is a rats dream..ifs ok but it definitely isn't as solid as an axle..you just have to be very careful with ifs.
Not a fan of the monster fender flares but the darker colors like eruption green definitely mixes better with the flares, can't wait to see the performance videos 👍
Overall seems like a pretty kickass rig until the drivetrain was revealed. Was in the market for a Bronco or Jeep back in 20-21. I wanted diesel or V8. Ford offered neither, so I wound up with a 21 392 Wrangler. Very happy with it but would have preferred a manual trans.
Give ‘em like a year
Good choice
Nice. How do you like the 392 Jeep?
They've had several years. Ford started this several years back with the F150 Raptor. Stuck an Ecoboost in it and likely diminished its sales. Ford GT, with an Ecoboost, lmao. Now they've also done it with the Bronco Raptor
@@jasonpitts8395 it's great. Almost 10k miles at this point. Bull bar added to factory Rubicon bumper, Warn 10S, and 37"Toyo RT's
For 80 grand it should have a optional V8.
Yep
Point taken on the fenders. I actually like the styling. But I do believe they are removable, so maybe the body remains tucked in to let the big tires do all the rubbing. Function dictates form maybe sort of thing going on.
Hard to imagine that engine won't have similar issues that the 2.7 has been plagued with.
Lol there is also a 2.3 which doesn't have any single issue why don't you talk about that ? 2.7 had bad valves it's a reliable motor in f150 , the 3l is too
@@hotrod7603 it's all online trolls. the L Nano V6 is a beast of an engine. have one in my 2015 F150 and it's been super reliable not a single issue. they've updated the engine but nothing like a total overhaul. just small updates. Ford has already said that the valve dropping is due to a bad batch of components from the supplier. as long as they acknowledge that and own up / fix the issues then I don't see what the big fuss is. shit happens and this is not an integral design issue. it's a manufacturing defect and it's not even ford's fault in the first place. I presume Ford will start very thoroughly inspecting valves and other components after this whole ordeal BUT that adds cost and auto industry suppliers are expected to produce acceptable components. this will end up just making the motors more expensive so blame the supplier who probably tried to cut corners (or had to due to labor shortages and shit). in fact you could probably trace the whole issue down to the pandemic. but most online trolls and (unfortunately) many consumers will fall prey to the bullshit hearsay.
If i was given one for free I'd probably turn around and sell it and buy either a Wrangler or regular Bronco, soft top with some nicer features and light, road friendly AT tires. I'm not really into the whole "barely fits in a normal lane and gets MPGs that where shameful in the 2000s" scene but wouldn't mind a convertible SUV that can handle itself when needed.
As capable as this Bronco is, its sad because most wont leave the pavement, especially at such a lofty price. I live on the east coast so there isnt much off roading around here. So id say its not worth 80 grand, but i'd be willing to wait 5 years and get one for 30-40.
Good point. I have a friend that lives in NM and he wore out 2 x Jeep Rubicons and is ready for a new TRD Pro 4Runner. He uses all the offroad capabilities. Most people won't ever leave the pavement
Don't hold your breath. You won't see these at 30-$40k in 5 years. They are selling for $120k now so they'll still be selling for at least $70-80K in 5 years.
@@MrDucYellow all depends on supply and demand.
If I could get it for MSRP, yeah I’d buy it. I’d probably spec it more around 75K range. I’ve already put 75,000 into my forerunner. I off road it all the time. It took me a year and a half to get all the mods done. If I could’ve purchased it right out of the factory like I currently have it I absolutely would have bought my forerunner like this
its possible (cant say for Ford dealers). I ordered a Rubicon 392 and got it for 6% below invoice.
Your Toyota is way more reliable. Be glad you got what you got
Regular Bronco sell for $80k. This is $100k+ in today’s stealership world.
Buy a Rolls-Royce and lift it and put it on 40s and throw piles of money under the tires if you get stuck.
Honestly the sound isn't great but I'm sure people will change the mufflers, this is the most amazing truck Ford has ever produced!
It's not a truck and the Real Raptor is an amazing truck. These Broncos regardless of trim are junk. Especially with the European designed 2.7l. Fords Euro engines are absolute trash. I know because I replace and rebuild them daily.
@@Silent_Shadow So what's the definition of truck to you? It's a body on frame design, same frame as the ranger. Is the ranger also not a truck?
@@Silent_Shadow 2.7 is a great engine purpose built and engineered for the f150. It’s the most reliable f150 engine and is a great platform. These are definitely not junk lol
did the upgrade the tie-rods to the kind that dont bend just from running 35" tires on light trails?
hell naw there is already people saying their engines failing at 2500 miles. I literally just saw an owner of the badlands model on TH-cam stating her rig with 2500 miles on it failed as she was driving smh!!!
My brother works at Roush and he let me drive it I got 11.7 MPG in the city 😂 it sounds nice but since it’s really heavy it doesn’t have anything like the F150 Raptor
I look forward to the inevitable comparisons to the Wrangler 392 with the 6.4, which outclasses it in horsepower and torque. Makes me wonder if we'll see the 5.2 that seems to be incoming on the F-150 Raptor R.
But, as a practical matter the 392 is an answer to a question very few ppl asked, can I drag race a jeep... the Raptor has real changes to the chassis and programming that will actually help off road, as opposed to a chunk of iron up front that really only adds weight off road..
@@tman1129 Without knowing anything about the 392's suspension components I can't say a whole lot, but I would tend to agree with you, given the Wrangler's overall purpose isn't very Raptor-y.
@@tman1129 the wrangler is already a superior off roader compared to this bronco, so nothing really they need to do. Especially when the 392 comes with the recon package
Yeah the 392 is sweet
im a Focus ST owner, and want another sporty ford for my line up the bronco raptor looks really good in green and yellow. ill snag one down the line when the economy crashes lol. and if it holds its value even better. Ford stepped it up
Or just wait for the Ford Escape Raptor.
If you find one at a dealership expect an average of 30 to 40k markup.
Next? The Bronco Raptor ST.
Basically a Ford Streethawk. 💪🏽
RS
80k plus dealer markup of 40k. Sounds like a great deal. ☹️
They nailed the f150 raptor and miss mine every day especially with diesel prices now. This bronco raptor looks ridiculous.
It needs a 2 door manual version
As with you, I would forego a lot of the non-functional options to try and keep the cost more reasonable. Other than that, it is a nice vehicle and if I were in the market for an off road vehicle, this would be it.
I'll build my own off roader this thing seems toy "ish" along with the engine /steering problems and the Marked up price tag
Thank you! another fine video!
Just got mine yesterday! I’m in love 😍