Why the TVA is Different Deadpool & Wolverine!
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Will LOKI cameo in Deadpool 3? Erik Voss breaks down the visual differences between the TVA as it is depicted in the Loki series vs what they seem to be doing in Deadpool & Wolverine! Is Paradox’s department off-the-books in the TVA, unknown even to God of Stories Loki?
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I think it’s gonna be a different section of the TVA that was built after Loki saved everyone from being spaghetti
what if the tva has different sectors for different universes, and the “fox universe” is collapsing and needs people to be saved from it ( for secret wars maybe?)
I think this is more likely, considering they showed wade clips from the "sacred timeline" mcu and not some alternate version.
.makes sense
Yeah.
No kang?
Loki's TVA?
Makes sense
In Loki S1, when Möbius shows Loki the TVA, that place looks massive. I can only assume there’s more different TVA divisions…
Agree
Fr nothing deeper than that
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Different look and feel it's his rebuild. Who's mobius clone?
Kinda agree
Maybe the orange circles on the chest plates are body cams? With a more caring and forgiving TVA, they could use them to make sure the officers are acting appropriately and within company guidelines since now they can't just prune whatever timeline they want and stuff.
Good eye m8
Yep that's exactly what I was thinking
My thoughts exactly, right on
I thought that, but then the lack of "badge numbers" and the hidden faces also says something different about how they operate. Who knows if it is supposed to mean anything at all
These camera's likely are used to police the police, but more likely to act as evidence against arrestee. "Anything you say or do..."
In e1s1 of LOKI, Mobius tells Loki that Nightmare is a different department from his. So this might also be just a department in the TVA that Mobius *does* know about and he just doesn't much deal with. Like, it doesn't necessarily have to be some off-the-books section of the TVA as much as it's just a different department in an impossibly large bureaucracy.
Same here. Just commented close to the same thing. Agree.
you might be onto something… kinda like a deli worker and someone from the clothing dept in the same walmart probably won’t have much interaction, if any
Nailed it
It's just an upgraded suit. I think this will be a big nothing burger when the movie drops. Outfits change all the time. I'm also one of the "Theres only 1 TVA for all realities..."
I think the suit color change to red was decided just to allow Deadpool to make a joke by referencing the Star Trek grunts wearing red and destined to die in the episode (or movie in this instance).
@@ironshoes1720they aren’t changed to red they are just a brighter orange
or maybe the TVA who's rebel because they're disagree with Loki's visions and their purpose was to erase the multiverse
@@Hannah-wo9qf Maybe my color settings are playing tricks on me. 🤷🏼♂️
Honestly I still see them as reddish, but whatever. Hope you'll enjoy the movie. 🙂👍🏻
@@ironshoes1720 I think it might be worth looking into! Same to you, it should be a really good time.
I think the masked TVA agents are only masked so Deadpool/Wolverine/who ever can kill random agents without the audience getting too attached to them. Also, less CGI would be needed.
Yeah, otherwise people would start to think about Wolvie and DP dicing scores of actual people that can't really hurt them at all.
Imagine if there’s a random scene where Deadpool breaks the fourth wall and the camera pans to Loki and he’s just like “why are you always talking to me?”
The Kevin robot was a gag that is never coming back. There is no way they go forward with that bad joke as the ultimate arbiter of the multiverse.
Dam kevbot 😠
Yeah these TH-cam channels dive way, WAY too deep into KEVIN therorys.
The arbiter of "The Platform" maybe.
People really think Kevin ai is a joke😂😁😁 it's like saying Zola algorithm is not a real world thing.
Imo that was such a mistake doing that scene.
I don't really believe there are multiple versions of the TVA. As for why the suits are different- there could be many reasons. Either those are updated suits (we've seen updated suits in season 2), alternate suits for another division, to maybe they're simply suits that were recreated for the movie (so it would be an out-of-universe thing).
Logically, there shouldn't be as the TVA was only formed to hide 616 from other universes. However, it's possible a different Kang had a similar idea to 616. Maybe the Kang in the X-Men universe had that same idea.
Having a scene with Deadpool, Wolverine, and Loki would be very cool and seemingly in line with the narrative crossover. Crossing my fingers.
I know that would be so awesome
Three time-travellers from different universes teaming up! *Worlds Collide!* 😎❤️💛💚
I think that they just might be a different faction of the TVA like a swat team who deals with more aggressive variants so they need more aggressive looking armour
the note about the hair is sending me 😂
I stan the wild uncombed hair :D
I'm leaning more to it being a Disney+ snap reference - I mean he even throws his remote/whatever is in his hands in a motion like the swoosh does above the plus.
The TVA is huge. It'd be silly of anyone to think we saw the only department in such a big organisation. This could be happening simultaneously with the latest developments in Loki.
ive been wondering about this thank you!
For what it's worth, camouflage that is patterned in colors like orange tends to be referred to as "urban camo" which is funny because deer hunters tend to wear solid, unpatterned orange so other hunters, but deer and turkeys are unable to see/differentiate it from other things.
Lmao the hair
Lol the hair looks so funny 😅
This feels like higher budget wardrobe. Remember the Borg costume in TNG vs First Contact?
I think the void looks different because Casandra Nova has control over Alaith... which then clears the sky
The chest lens may be a camera or more likely a temporal scanner that can display in the visors.
what if the tva has different sectors for different universes, and the “fox universe” is collapsing and people need to be saved from them because they will be needed in the future (secret wars)
This is fun, and I'm fully on board with this kind of speculation, but we need to keep at top of mind that Marvel has a history of putting stuff in trailers that isn't in the movie (or is different in the movie). Can't you just hear Deadpool looking at the camera and saying, "Well, now, this wasn't THAT way in the trailer. Darn, that was gonna be good".
Would be cool to see a short cameo from Loki
Loving and appreciate Erik's dad hair!
I think there are two different factions of the TVA. Why did he grab Deadpools hair if they are taking him to the same place?
Was Wade crying just before he answered the door to the TVA? Kinda looks like there's a tear under his eye when he answers the door
No, he wasn't.
Good video
I'm thinking what if the TVA we are seeing in deadpool 3 are, in fact, the TVA from the Fox universe. They are trying to maintain their sacred timeline.
The screens of the MCU could be deadpool being shown the universe that is causing all the problems.
10:03 prisoner 24601 is also a nod to hugh jackman being valjean in les miserable and a massive staple of musical theater overall
Maybe all those images on the TVA screens are just placeholders. Maybe they'll be different at release
That definitely could be the case.
4:50 Seeing Loki talk directly to the audience would be *WILD!*
Honestly the no combed hair fits your personality 😂
I feel like this TVA with Paradox will be a rogue version with Renslayer
TVA wars
@@joenciso364 Facts 🤣
MY TVA HELMET LMAOOOO I LOVE YOU
The tva in the void could be previously pruned agent
Shouldn't the title be "Why the TVA is Different *in* Deadpool & Wolverine"?
Would love to see a cheeky little interaction between Loki and Deadpool! Also just to see whether Loki can actually leave his throne. I'm curious about that.
If the TVA has changed to pruning Kang's then it's safe to assume they would have a more aggressive minutemen. I think this is just changes that Loki or Obi or the judges have put in place over time.
The dots on the TVA uniforms look like they could be Chest Cams.
If the void is where people who got eaten by Alioth go, I hope we see the old version of Loki again. He was awesome
The TVA uniforms in DP3 look more like the ones from ‘Werewolf by Night.’
I think that hole on the front of the TVA guards is a body camera.
Bingo. That makes perfect sense.
I hope we get to see Loki.
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I like Erik´s hair :D
I genuinely think the TVA is militarized as their main purpose now is to hunt down Kang Variants instead of pruning branched timelines. Paradox perhaps wants Deadpool's help to assemble a multiverse avengers team because they have discovered that the Council of Kangs is about to declare another multiversal war.
Small detail I like is how they hid a X in the TVA Logo on the TV in front of Wade and Paradox.
cool!
The movie looks good can’t wait
Same 👍
Ha! I thought the messy hair was on purpose as it came immediately after the ragged Valjean
That would be a crazy twist because if we were to go off of what was said regardless of kang or he who remains being a big play now because of the legal situation stupid! But he who remains said every moment you’ve every been is because he was the only one at the end of time which would imply that there’s a possibility that would looking a different universes timeline and I also think that’s the case because at the end of Loki it looked like there wasn’t really ranking more like everyone working together to accomplish one goal the survival of the multiverse!
That’s what I thought for the reason why their uniforms were different, because this is a different division of the TVA one we didn’t see Loki maybe they’re like the mega police and I do hope we get to see Loki or Mobius in the movie just for a small cameo
I was wondering if maybe there are different TVA's and maybe they're at odds with each other or are somehow enemies or have different goals or purposes..
oh yay.... another video about this trailer
The looks byKang and Loki look more like distant starres than looking into the camera
Hair looking crazy wild 😮
That’s exactly what i was thinking - i was wondering too if the TVA that actually yanked him through the Time Door is a different one that knocked on his home door (haven’t watched the vid yet, not sure if he covered this, just my thought)
Only 20 weeks to "Deadpool & Wolverine". Time flies when you anticipate fun.
8:51 it looks like we're going to have a moment like that if Loki S2 where Loki prunes himself
I mean I instantly thought it was a different tva since it’s a different universe, I would imagine they don’t span across the multiverse since they’re just time cops. People tend to use the tree with multiple branches being different timelines. And the way I always envisioned it is that if you extend that tree into a forest then each tree is a different universe. Whether that’s wrong or right I like that view enough to prolly use it in my own stories.
its not the fact that its wrong but the fact that it just makes no sense. the tva is outside of time, outside of the mutliverse like the watcher. theres not one for every universe because they dont exist in a universe
The tva isn’t in all the universes it’s not in any universe essentially it’s beyond them seeing them all
TVA exists outside of time, it's not a different TVA
@@offlineraided best way to put it
The TVA. Exists. Outside. Of the Multiverse.
It’s not that hard to understand.
Prisoner 24601 is a call back to Hugh Jackman's character in the movie les miserables👍
Eric’s hair has gone half Wolverine!
What if wade learns that that version of Logan is like doomed to be forgotten in the void, and plans like a Davy jones locker jack sparrow rescue mission and things go a little wrong.
i think those small orange circels on the armore are like build in body cams or something.
Those little circles in the middle of the chest plate are cameras.
Same TVA
TV Money vs Movie Money
They have more money for the art department.
The Loki series, according to Kevin Feige had the same budget as a movie.
I am so excited for Deadpool and Wolverine this summer
You will be disappointed because it’s not for this summer 🤣.
If this is set after Loki S2, then perhaps the TVA was recently given upgrades now that Loki is watching the timeline and the management has changed.
It could be that instead of pruning, they send nexus beings into alternate timelines to change the timelines to be accurate.
@newrockstars Deadpool joins the TVA in the Deadpool and Cable Split Second comic. Very interesting stuff in there
It would be cool for Wade to reference Paradox with the song Que passa Paradox.
I told you this! Every sacred timeline has its variation of the tva. Loki isn't holding together a multiverse, just the 1 timelines branching timelines
LOL, he named it Prisoner 24601 (Hugh Jackman's prisoner number in Les Miserables). 😭
the hair is goated
I feel like the tva with the pruning sticks and the one who pulled him through the time door are opposing factions of the tva
I thought the same thing and could track well with other scenes of the trailer where he's fighting the masked TVA troops but would also be there helping another department in a "classified" CIA like role.
Maybe each timeline has their own TVA, which is amassing warriors for the upcoming "war" before they realise they should work together.
I'm not sure we've ever established if there's only one TVA for all universes or if there's a different TVA in each universe. I'm going with this being an entirely different TVA rather than a division.
The whole point of the TVAs creation was to hide the Sacred Timeline 616 from other universes. Therefore, the TVA only watches 616.
It's possible that a different Kang from a different Universe, let's say 838, for example, made their own TVA to fulfill a similar purpose.
That's why the TVA in Deadpool 3 is different. It's a completely different universes.
I think Loki has made some serious changes since he's become God of Stories and hero of the TVA! 👀
this does bring up an interesting point, though. since this is a film, not a series, would dp not be able to break out of the mcu & get into the real world until the deadpool three hits disney plus?
The thing on the orange he thinks is camo kinda looks like comics
I think they’re going warring factions within the tva. Maybe one side is sent by Loki to recruit Deadpool for the upcoming secret wars and the other side is aware of Lokis plan and trying to take out his recruits before he gets to them
Do you think Hydra Bob will make an appearance since it looks like he is heading to the “hydra” era of the MCU?
It will most likely be more armor to protect them from Knag since their now hunting his variants. This could also be because Wade is bigger threat than the likes of Loki since he is a Nexus Being
OR…it’s an entirely separate TVA for the FOX X-Men multiverse. now that Loki has integrated the Yggdrasil version of the MCU (which was previously isolated by HWR) back into the greater multiverse/megaverse, not only can other Kangs access in but also other TVA’s. however, the Void and Alioth might be some sort of nexus zone so there’s only one shared by all Kangs & TVA’s
They could have just updated their uniform. Before the TVA was all about pruning, but now they are protecting the multiverse from threats. So perhaps they have become more combat ready, and also dropped the numeric designations to allow the variants to identity as variants.
Obviously them being just another decision makes sense too, but the TVA evolving now they aren’t under He Who Remains’ control also makes sense.
There’s something about Mary bangs are amazing.
could also just be marvel going “I think it’s time for a change of style” would be the first time they just didn’t give a shit about the previous movie and taking into a count that they actually have a cinematic universe to keep up with.
Could also just be a different TVA department.
It's none of the above, this is simply the first time most audience members will have encountered the TVA so their outfits are stylized for the movies versus the cheap outfits for Disney+ shows
@KathrynElizabeth-ts2gkthen why did the outfits in Loki look like a 4th grade stage play?
Did anyone notice that in the first group of tve people the 3 people in the back didnt have that jem that was on the 1 leading persons top chestplate????
It was leaked (so yeah…grain of salt) that this was not the same TVA from the MCU but instead the Fox universe TVA.
What’s going on with dead pool and wolverine??? What’s going on with your hair 😂😂
The Void is Battleworld. It’s pruned patches of multiverse. Deadpool is probably being sent there to get someone and bring them back to the TVA. To resolve whatever. Or something like that.
I think these guys are the TVA after Loki S02.
Because power doesn't work in TVA. and if you look at Deadpool after being captured. He is not struggling/dying. Which means his regenerative power is working inside TVA.
Look at you still excited by the MCU. So adorable. 😂
1:55 something Ms Minutes related? Like a smaller built in version
It could be the Beyonder or Dr Doom that controls that sub branch of the TVA that arrested Deadpool
It's an interesting idea of it being a different division of the TVA, it makes sense as to why things are different and such.
That said, I wonder if it might be something else. Recently I've been going through X-Men: the Animated Series in preparation for X-Men '97, and the other day I got to the Mojo episode. By the end of that episode I started to wonder if the reason the TVA and Void and such is different for Deadpool 3 is because it's a version of it created by Mojo, but when designing the sets and everything Mojo got the jist of it but didn't get everything exactly right.
Mojo would bring Deadpool in not because of his "Nexus Being" status or whatever, but because he knows Deadpool teaming up with Wolverine and crossing over with the Fox Universes will be good for his ratings and everything. It would be sort of a meta commentary on media companies of today.
It might be possible that the 24601 is the original planned release date for deadpool and wolverine 24/6/01 or basically july 1st 2024 since it is slated for July 2024