How to fly an RC Heli. Part 1: HOVERING
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Micro corrections! Your advice changed my flight experience from "chasing it" to balancing it perfectly THANK YOU!!! The only thing you should also point out is that the main blade has inertia and momentum, and may take a second or two to react to input.
Hi, thanks for the comment. Yes good point, I could have made that a bit clearer.
If you are noticing "slow response" then congratulations you are getting better. That means you are not "playing catch up" but already "know" where the helicopter attitude should take you. More headspeed, more pitch(unless you already setup to just short of binding), more expo will bring up the helicopter response.
Would lowering control rates be a good idea for learning or does that just breed bad habits of excessive inputs?
@@sasquatchhadarock968
First it will help you from overcorrecting in the beginning. If you had no dead zone, as a beginner you would overcorrect and be all over the place. Been there and still am 😅😅
I am new to this and hope to see more learning videos. Your an easy to understand teacher/instructor. I just purchased a blade 120 s2 to practice with and if i can figure out how to fly this a can upgrade. Thanks again for all your help!
Hi Mark. Thanks for the comment. Yes more to come, stay tuned! Happy flying!
New to the hobby so this is a very nice instructional video! Looking forward to applying when my heli arrives. Thanks
I've watched vids by full size helicopter flight instructors. When it comes to hovering, they say very tiny stick movements as well. Excellent vid here.
Finally, i can learn how to fly my heli properly.
Thank you. I needed this.
My pleasure. More coming soon (ish)
I just discovered this video! Beautiful and the explanation/advice is perfect. This should be a "must veiw" when I was always crashing my 230s Smart and Nano S3.
Thanks for the comment Eric. Happy flying!
Thank you for making this video. I’ve been flying RC planes since the late 80’s. I am just now getting into hell’s. Haven’t even put one in the air yet. I’ve been watching lots of tutorials. So far you have the best explanations on how to do stick work on the transmitter. Always bring back to center or the heli will just keep going in the direction of your last stick input. Looking forward to more of your videos. Thank you
Glad I could help
Hey I'm watching a lot of videos on the blade 230s, but yours is one of the best I've ever seen thank you kindly!!
Hi Michael thanks very much.
Great flying
What can I say, I've flown planes and quads. Helis are so so different. Great advice about the mini corrections/back to centre. I'm learning on a sim as my k110 took some damage and now 'bobs' even though the shafts are all straight and tight etc? Keep up the super tutorials pal.
Realy Nice work man!! Verry cleary explane thanks!!
Cheers man thanks very much
Excellent series, subbed thank you.
Thanks Paul. More coming soon. Happy flying.
Great work mate. We needed something like this video- easy to understand,
Cheers mate thanks for the comment gkad it helps. Stay tuned, lots more planned for when I can get time.
This was really helpful! Cheers.
My pleasure. Glad you liked it. More coming when the weather is better
Excellent video. Thank you!
You are welcome!
Great video, I've just bought a k110 collective pitch helicopter, so this video will help tremendously, ive done some acro drone flying
Nice one cheers. Hope it helps, and I'll do more when it get the chance.
Very nicely done, I am rebuilding my 230s, I am still learning the basics and overcorrecting way to much. Going to try you advice on my simulator and see what happens. Keep up the great work
Cheers mate, thanks for the comment, glad you like it. A lot of sim time will help immensely. Hoping to get more videos done soon when I have time. Maybe some on the sim and hopefully one or 2 technical videos.
Great lesson 💯
Thank you 👍
No worries cheers. Hoping to get more done but weather is usually so nad especially windy where I am. Might resort.to some simulator videos. Atleast they have tje advantage of clear stick movements shown too.
Just got this heli to learn on and it is great little heli.thx mark from Doncaster
Nice one. Enjoy!
That was great info buddy. Just starting getin back to helis an bought the blade 230s smart. 👍 Great video man. 👍 🇬🇧 😀
Nice one cheers Gaz. Enjoy helis again!
Awsome video! Great thanks from Sweden! =D
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for explaining how the movements need to go back to center after the movement to keep it stable... makes better sence now. Just gave me the want to put my 230 back together agean.. I'm pretty good on the first setting. I understand the orientation
No worries, it's an important difference many dint realise
This was extremely helpful. I was just flying wildly all over the place and crashing a lot. Using tiny movements of the sticks I can now hover well and surely am enjoying my heli flying a lot more. I'm currently flying the XK k110 and ordered a 230S yesterday. Looking forward to improving my skills.
That's awesome. Thanks for the comment and enjoy the flying!
You need to get a flight simulator to really make quantum leaps in skill, which in RC heli world = a few months, but without sim it could be a few years.
Also, the trick to controlling = not flying like an airplane. There is absolutely no stick position "sweet spot". You are jiggling the sticks left/right/front/back/right/back/left/front. Like a boxer punching counter-punching punching, at same time watching for tiny visual movement to "feedback" your "net movements". That's the thing about RC heli's. It's not relaxing. It's tense. However, it's a rush. Especially, when all that stick movement becomes "automatic". Like being able to play a musical instrument proficiently. You no longer look at your fingers and the fret.
The rc helicopter moves so quickly that two wrong jabs(stick inputs = crash) and no "panic" switch can be flicked fast enough if you are flying close to the ground or you are already in a dive. You can not rely on that only building up "kung fu" like reflexes to control the heli without thinking about what your fingers are doing.
Anyways, not to scare you off...get a simulator. If you don't already. That's where "we" learned to fly inverted and do piro flips, with minimal crashing.
@@trexinvert Excellent comment, dead on, tnx
Üben, üben ,üben. Wird sich lohnen. 😅👍
Very good explanations! I should have watched your video. It would have saved me some trouble and frustration when I was beginning.
Glad it helped!
Hi, Thank you! Your video is very good and educational.
Thanks long!
Such a great video for beginners like me! I am still struggling to keep my 230S hovering in front of me. Six flights and I already crashed it into a tree, but luckily it survived.
Cheers man thanks for the comment. Don't worry you'll get there. Try getting a sim if you haven't yet. AccuRc is only £40 and you'll just need a USB receiver for 20-30. Save you a lot of money in the long run and you'll improve a lot faster! Enjoy
Thank you for posting sir! Your explanation on how the radio's collective and pitch controls work and especially how to operate them really helps. ( micro corrections: pitch then center, etc.). I just purchased the Blade 230S V2, and was wondering what are your thoughts on installing training gear?
Regards from the Mojave desert CA.
Hi Ralph thanks for the comment. I wouldn't worry about training gear with the 230s V2 as it has the panic recovery mode to help achieve the same goal really. Practice using it and going for the switch quickly so you cam do it smoothly when you need to! Happy flying.
Excellent tutorial.
You *almost* had the perfect shutter speed on your camera 😉.
My retired dad is trying to get into flying RC helis. I got him a Blade 120 S2 for Christmas and he's enjoying it but between his eyes (trifocals😢) and trying to keep up with everything he has a steep learning curve.
Just got the M2 evo, first flight went terribly wrong broke my prop blades and couple of servo arms. Rebuilt now going right back to basics and have turned my heli right down. Thank you for the video!
Sounds like a good idea! Keep hammering the basics and improve carefully. Enjoy.
Very nice you lesson about heli
Cheers man thanks very much
This video is the first to explain small movements back to center I’m a licensed pilot in six different aircraft pipers Cessna and some helicopter training in a Robinson r22 this is the hardest thing I ever flew
Thank you
You're welcome
Nice video !! I love the crash 😂🙏🏻 .. have a great day
Wow Tareq king of 3D! Hi. Thank you! Hope you are doing very well and wish you very best in your life!
Great video! im a intermediate 3d heli pilot, and this is a video i share for people learning 3d heli fundamentals
Awesome thanks.
A DIY helicopter chair with pedals, cyclic, and collective control is another level in rc helicopters.
Just built one...
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Awesome video. I love the explanations. Helicopters have always been so intimidating. I feel like I'd just crash and burn. Coming from an rc car bashing background, fixing busted stuff is the norm, but crashing something that flies is on another level hence the intimidation. Thanks for the in depth analysis.
What would be a good entry-level Helicopter you would recommend?
Hi Rocket thanks for the comment. Yes i actually crashed recently flying inverted figure 8s a bit too low. Video coming.soon if my I can sort my laptop lol. You might want to try a blade 230 or 330 to start with. They aren't too expensive, lots of parts and info available and should be fairly cheap to fix too. Maybe not actually the easiest ss bigger helis are easier to learn on due to inertia and stability etc. Those are also rtf or bnf so doesn't meed building. If you want to get into it seriously you could join a club and get something bigger but it'll be a lot more technical with building etc. A 230s will get you going easily for a few hundred amd also has rescue/bail out built in which will save you from crashing atleast a few times when you start.
Rocket RC. Bigger does fly better, and easier, if set up properly. If you can, get yourself involved in a rc club that offers helicopter training. I would also suggest purchasing a helicopter simulator. It can save you quite a bit of money. As the video, in the beginning show, crashes are going to happen. I don't care how skilled you are, you're going to crash. Just remember, practice, practice, practice. It's nice to be able to say you can do something that 1 in 10 rc pilots can't do. Happy hovering!
Thanks man big help
My pleasure. Glad it helped!
Super video
Thanks Leon!
Nice video ;)
Cheers!
I haven't found anything on if it is possible to fly the model with no idle up AND no stability. I wouldn't feel comfortable to take off with idle up but always relying on stability to take off and land feels wrong.
Excellent. It's been 10 years and i just picked up my simulator and it's like riding a bike. It comes right back to you. I am building a trex 250 DFC wirh an Ikon/Brain FBL system. I know how to hover and fly circles and figure eights. Eventually I'd like to so some 3D and hard 3D maneuvers. Do you have any guidance on how to learn those?
Unfortunately, I'm not that advanced mysel, to be honest. Only a mild bit of 3d nothing too extreme at all. I'd say repetition on the basics and all orientations upright and inverted will certainly help when you have them down on an unconscious level.
@@RCStuffvideos yeah makes sense. It needs to come 2nd nature without thought. I am currently evaluating Heli-X and NeXt simulators. Whichever one I go with I am planning to put 30 mns a day in training. Hopefully after a few months I'll be able to get some basic 3D going. Do you have any recommendations on best heli simulator?
Awesome intro😏
Cheers man
That looked good compared to my 1st attempt
I imagine flying collective pitch hand-eye coordination is a lot like flying & aerials in rocket league
I have an older art-tech falcon 3d (About a 300 size bird I think) main rotor was abt.25" had to replace the blades so now is abt 28" I am a fixed wing rc pilot not much above beginner skill level. This helicopter and radios and tools/parts everything was offered to me really cheap. So I've put some money into it to fix it up and hopefully learn to fly it. What I need are some really good configuration settings that will dumb it down enough to keep me from planting it in the dirt. The radio I am using is a futaba 7ch FP-T7UAP Super PCM1024.
A very nice radio even if its a bit obsolete. I need some help with rates and configurations also it has A heading hold gyro as well
Hello Daphne! Welcome to helis! Art tech falcon. Fly barred heli yeah? I've not actually flown a flybar heli before tbh but the main principles will apply to calming it down a bit. Lower headspeed, lower dual rates, bit of expo. Is that transmitter the one you were using for fixed wing too? Do you have the manual?
I'd definitely recommend getting a bit of help from a hobby shop or a club if there's one near you. Do you know anyone else flying helis at all?
@@RCStuffvideos yes, the Futaba 7ch is my main radio and I have the manual.
BTW i think i error-ed on the heli size, given it came with 25" rotor blades but now is swinging a set of 28" i think its a bit under-powered now but the size of a 400. it takes nearly all of 65%+ power to get light on the skids.
it had a nasty vibe in it that would cause the gyro to start tail-wagging. so last night i equalized the blade CG/balance and that seamed to fix that...
i have read a lot of different ideas about what the settings should be to start out, and many are telling me the same thing.
i started out "low" I figured it would be better to work up not down. I found i had the T-NR curve so low it would lower the RPM instead of take-off when i moved the stick past center. so my minimum operational power is nearly at 75% and i thought that would be the top end!
from what I am gleaning, its better and more stable to have a higher and more constant power level anyway, only keep your low side rate down,
the Futaba has a setting called NR-L that does just that. so negative blade pitch can be locked out, and gradually introduced. i haven't experimented with that yet. there is also a sister-setting called ID-H that does the same thing to the high side of the idle-up modes. in theory to dumb that down too i suppose.
also i don't know if the ESC is stock or not, it is a YEP 30A. I obtained a programming card for it as well. I'm unsure of the settings it has right now. I didn't write them down.
the closest club near me is over 35min away, is way out of my way, and there are some members i may not be on good terms with from years past. not a comfortable environment to be in. so i have my AMA, and my FAA registration, as well as the Trust test all under my belt. (ive been out of the hobby several years) been thinking of getting my 107 cert also. I plan to do most of my flying on my own property. I have the space.
back to the settings...
My T-NR is 0%30%60%65%70%
T-I1 = 70%70%70%70%70
T-I2 100%100%100%100%100%
(hope that wont overheat things)
HOLD = -100%
pitch...
P-NR 60%60%60%80%100% i had this more linear from 0 to 70 but changed it because 60% is about zero deg. on the blades already.
P-I1 10%30%50%70%90 (trying to limit the negative collective here some)
P-I2 and P=HD are 0%25%50%75%100% (linear from max negative to max positive)
those are my numbers as the stand right now. perhaps some servo arm adjusting is in order?
@@daphneblake7889 For Throttle control it's not so much the %%%%% but more that beginner pilot "fingers" need to travel/throw length for resolution.
When I began I set my futaba tx to 0-65-70-75-80%. At 65% it won't quite lift off, but with just a tiny bit more "thumb tension" it will start to lift off.
Then as you throttle more you will have more fine control. As a beginner you just want to get it to hover 5-10 ft.
However, watch the wind a slight gust can lift it up from 5 ft to 20 ft without any throttle input.
Follow the same logic and apply to your pitch curve: 50-55-60-65-70%. You still need flat blade pitch =50% so you can descend the heli slowly, but you don't need that much positive pitch to rise more than hover level.
These throttle and pitch settings are kinda like adding "expo" but with more direct control.
It's all about "tiny" control movement synchronized to "comfortable" finger/stick movements. This is remote control "training wheels".
You need this as a beginner. Then as you get better and faster, you can adjust for more response.
As a beginner, don't mess with the other throttle toggle modes: idle up1, idle up 2.. Just set those at 0-0-0-0-0%. For instant kill. What if you accidentally hit the switch? Yes, it does happen. What if you didn't program the ESC to soft start, but airplane start=instant rev up!!! ZZZZ... You don't need to mess with any 2nd throttle curves at the moment. Maybe later.
How to do hammer? And also is it possible to fly this in fpv mode?
Hammer head like a stall turn? But much for a comment but I'll try and do a video on it eventually when I have time. You could add an external fpv camera to it if and strap it on if you buy a separate set.
I struggled out of safe at first because safe teaches you to hold the stick out of safe you just tap it.
That's it mate. Surprisingly big difference but satisfying when you get it
How far can i go with my DXs and 230s? What is the range of this little thing? its my second Year with it now and it lives.
Well, it's irrelevant, really. The transmitter range is further than you can see it. You'll lose sight of it and lose ckntrol5 long before transmitter range is an issue.
Sounds good. Have a great day. THX@@RCStuffvideos
idk why mine just rotate about itself and suddenly without I do any thing it go to a certain direction until I stop it and crachs to the ground
. Not sure mate. Could be multiple things. Join a club or take it to a proper hobby shop where someone can inspect it
I say practice hovering then move into going forwards and backwards and side to side then practice flying flying it
Yep. That's the order of my videos. Cheers.
Sir why gps n0t turning t0 s0lid green 0nly 0range light blinking. I succesfully calibrate it
Sorry I don't undertand
What aircraft is this?
Blade 230 s
I use a different on etho
Hello sir; How are you sir? what is the model of this helicopter because I would love to learn how to fly those types of aircraft. I am old, retired military, served my country for 21 1/2 years and deployed 3 times. I do enjoy remoted aircraft. Because these aircraft are very expensive, I would like to know what type, model if you may please sir, thanks. I will keep this video for guidance how to fly and maintain this type or any other aircraft.....Thanks..
Respectfully;
Andy
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Hi this is the blade 230s V2. Not too expensive.
How do you make it fly up?
Move the collective stick up. You'll also climb if you're flying forwards and pull the cyclic back.
I can't seem to hover my Blade 450 3D. I think I need more sim time.
Pablo, have someone check your setup, both in the helicopter and the radio. You may find it's not a problem with you!
More sim time can definitely help. Try and set the sim up so it handles similarly to your helicopter. As this other guy said check your set up too so everything is OK
Do you know how fly helicopter real one.did you have ride in real helicopter one or two ?you know every thing about helicopter that is good.i like this video alot.
Hi Jackie, thanks for the comment. I have done some flying in full size/real helicopters. I am a fixed wing (plane) airline pilot. Would like to do more real heli flying though.
How feel fly in a real helicopter?ehat your name is.how much the lesson is
I have the dxs transmitter that was standard in the package. But They dont even explain what those buttons on top do. I cant find it anywhere. Please help man. Do u have fiver or something? I am willing to pay u to help me learn it.
Hi, I'm sure theres a dxs manual online somewhere that should say what they do..
Or what model is it you have exactly?! Maybe the buttons aren't needed for your model?
@@RCStuffvideos i have the same helicopter. Blade 230s. It has a button for 3 modes. Beginner. Intermediate. Expert.
Button for smart function
Button for toggle thrust or something.
I checked the manual. It does not explain it.
can some one clarify if these RC helicopter work on the the same principles as a normal helicopter in theory could a normal helicopter perform these kind of stunts
Same general principles for sure. SOME full size helis can do loops and rolls but certainly can't do things like tictocs and piroflips etc
definitely didn't watch all of this without a helicopter to apply it to
Hahaha legend. The world needs more people like you.
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No one fly's fixed pitch Helis! any more since 2000! LoL
I'm pretty sure there'll still be kids buying them as cheaps toys off amazon/ebay etc
Just an honest opinion you should have made an explanation vid first and it would be much easier for first time pilots if you kept it simple as in left right back forward and to keep the heli facing away from you or the the controls will be reversed. Once the heli is off the ground It will drift, if it goes left a gentle tap right etc and keep it pointing away from you try not to let it drift as far away as you were doing what’s more an RC heli sim is the cheapest way to start and will save on a lot of repairs. Just try and simplify what your saying no need for technical keep that in a separate video.
Hi Mate, thanks for the comment. Yeah I was thinking about different ways of doing it. I guess I went for accuracy over simplicity as of course push forwards to go forwards just isn't technically correct (as I'm sure you know by your name), you have to move stick to centre again. I was trying to highlight this difference when you compare it to a drone or very basic fixed pitch heli etc. for sure people will find different formats better too. I have some other technical bits in other videos too. someone else complained I didn't go over everything like expo and all in that video too. I guess from his POV I wasn't being technical ENOUGH. As I said to him I just really wanted to go over the effects of the controls in as accurate way as possible (as it is required to advance in the future) and an intro to hovering. Cheers though. i do take comments on board for future videos. Happy flying!
Wow! No offense, I'm glad you're not my instructor. You went through too much manure ( flight theory ) at the beginning and too little during your flight demo. As with most people who desire to get their helicopter up, I did not look at the suggested videos.
As to your flight demo, IMHO, you need to use a zoom camera, with a camera person, instead of a GoPro, or whatever camera you used. The only thing it really shows is how fast people can lose orientation.
You mentioned slight movements, on the sticks, but never mentioned the use of expo. You mentioned dual rates, barely, but never clarified what they were. You mentioned "panic" mode but never said whether you were using throttle cut, throttle hold or just low collective.
A collective pitch helicopter has been compaired as an upside down lawnmower. Several people, including a young sponsored rc helicopter pilot named Roman Pirozek, Jr. , have been killed by their radio controlled helicopters. Most news agencys reported it as a "toy" helicopter. There things are not toys, they are very sophisticated mechanisms. I think it very irresponsible of you to make the statement " in no time at all you will be flying like this". I've been flying rc for 20+ years, with 4 of that being in helicopters. I am just starting to acquire the skillsets to handle the more complex maneuvers. I'm older than most rc helicopter fliers, and realize the younger pilots hand/ eye coordination outshines my abilities 100 fold. Please do not lead very impressive non pilots to think they can grab this proverbial tiger by the tail and it not be costly, either in parts or digits, etc.
Please upgrade your video with these things in mind.
Last thought: the joy of being able to , skillfully, fly an rc helicopter is incomparable. You are doing something only 1 in 10 rc pilots can accomplish. Happy and safe flying to you all!
Hi Joe. Thanks for the comment. Yes I didn't mention expo and dual rates etc. I wasn't intending to explain literally everything in one video, mainly just effects.of the controls and intro to hovering. A much better camera and camera man would cost a huge amount. I'd love to but far out of my budget for now The little intro clip obviously isn't intended to be serious but just get people motivated and excited about what can be possible.
This video is the first to explain small movements back to center I’m a licensed pilot in six different aircraft pipers Cessna and some helicopter training in a Robinson r22 this is the hardest thing I ever flew
Nice one thanks for the comment. I'm a fixed wing airline pilot, done a few hours in r22 and want to get helicopter license one day too. Hang gliders are also awesome to fly.