The Luxury Watch 'Best Buy' Of 2024
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A bit of a PSA today. Even at $3k it is still not 'cheap' but is clearly MUCH better value than at $4890! Why? Not sure. A bit plain? Not a Black Bay? It doesn't bother me, I can see myself adding one of these at some point, but not this point! Cheers, Jody
My biggest reason I wasn't as drawn to the ranger vs explorer really just comes down to the dial size. I love that compact 36 dial size. If they came out with a 36mm ranger then I'd be more keen to give it a go.
or if they used a BB54 case at 37mm would be great
36mm watch is irrelevant anymore in the modern world, particularly among sport watches.
I got a Ranger earlier this year and absolutely love it. I wanted one expensive watch in my collection and I decided on the Tudor. The one thing I’d change though is to make the luminous markers a bit thicker. They look printed and thin. I got a San Martin Black Bay Pro homage to see if I liked that better and I have to admit I do. There’s so much more going on. The Tudor BB Pro is too thick though. I’m hoping they’ll bring a thinner version out in the future. The lume on the Ranger could be better too. It’s a bit disappointing when the San Martin I got in the sale for £116 is so much better than my Ranger at £2600
Get the San Martin SN0107-G4 which is the enamel dial. The black + gilt is sensational. You can even pick up the jubilee bracelet designed for the SN0109 and it fits the 107 perfectly.
@@thegornI have the blue dial version San Martin SN0107. Really nice watch. I bought it before getting the Ranger just to make sure I liked the style. It’s almost as nicely finished as the Ranger too. I got the one with the high beat movement. Highly recommend it.
Yeah but it's not better. It's just really good in some important areas.
I agree, the lume is a let down on the Ranger... but that bracelet is lovely. I wish they had made a 36mm version though.
So is SM's Pelegos 39mm version. Matt, indices cut out and a date.....
Thinking the printed dial is the Achilles heel here. If they would’ve gone with applied markers it might’ve done a little better…
You might be right mate. Makes it look v plain.
This is exactly why. If you want this type of Dial, go for a Hamilton for 1/3 the price.
or if they used the 3d printing like they didi on the old heritage ranger 41mm that would make it better, agreed the current one is just too flat and boring.
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Saw one these Rangers on the wrist of a person seated near me on a flight... It's one the most boring watch I ever saw
I prefer the railmaster to the ranger. Both are well below retail for around the same price, and I feel like you are getting more with the railmaster.
I've got a Railmaster (my only expensive watch) and have been eyeing up the Ranger - I wonder if I'll find it a bit disappointing compared to the Omega, or at the very least a bit too similar
I tried on a Railmaster last month. What a fabulous watch. Amazed that it’s not more popular. If it was a similar price to the Ranger I would’ve gone for the Railmaster instead.
In what way are you getting more?
@@ApurtureSciI had a Railmaster that I let go when I got my Explorer and I do miss the all brushed finish of the Railmaster. Don’t miss the clasp though.
Good point!
Well I purchased a new Sinn 556 RS which looks pretty much the same and while it is not an in house COSC movement, it's been running at +2 seconds per day for 2 years. I paid about $1200 on a bracelet but I mostly wear it on leather straps. I don't mind wearing a watch that say Sinn on it over one with
Tudor. It flies well beneath the radar except when other addicts notice it in the wild.
Yes, I would happily own either but given the choice, I think Sinn is a way cooler brand with a very consistent design language and if you are into the look (as I am), there isn't a stinker in the lot.
Great choice!
Sinnful
Just the other day I had an internal debate with myself and conclude the 556 is more detailed to my liking - better bang for the buck
If Tudor changed the markers to applied indices and/or changed the shape of the font and you’d have more demand. As it stands it just looks like a watch that a 3rd grader designed. It’s a shame too because a friend of mine bought one and let me try it on. I can say it feels amazing on wrist. Super comfy.
It’s a shame they don’t do mid-release minor updates, because you nailed it. I would add the new crown and crown stem from the new BB’s
Yea the design is ugly, no way around it
The Ranger with applied markers and a different font is called the Explorer. Tudor will always be kept a good distance from big brother.
@@singha686 I thought of that while typing the initial comment, but I’m sure there’s a combo of font and marker application that would be far enough removed from the Explorer along with a brushed finish, etc etc. but yeah, I get your point. Bottom line for me, that font sucks.
@@UltraDougI agree. There is definitely space between the Ranger now and the Explorer to allow the Ranger to be a little “better.” I find most of what Tudor puts out is just a tweak away from being amazing. As they are, they are still great watches and really tough to beat for the price, especially on the secondary market.
To me the dial looks cheap. Otherwise it’s great.
The design of this model was just what I was looking for in my next watch. The clean unassuming face with a brushed steel case/bracelet and solid build quality that doesn't attract attention. The Ranger fits my style of a luxury daily driver like a Toyota Land Cruiser, well done Tudor.
I walked into my AD to purchase a Ranger upon release because I love the vintage Rangers and had been hoping for this release for a while. Once I got it on wrist it just reaaaally didn’t do it for me. 39mm seemed just too big and the markings felt… cheap? Ended up passing with a comment something along the lines of “I’ve always wanted an Explorer so I think I’ll just keep waiting for one” and low and behold they had just got one in, I tried it on and instantly fell in love and walked out with it instead. Wild turn of events.
I bought the Ranger on release and subsequently returned it to the AD after the weekend for a full refund. The bracelet and clasp was sharp and felt unfinished. The dial felt like a cop out too, for the 39mm size, it could have done with 2 lines of text at least at the bottom to fill the void at 6. Ideally it should have been 36/37mm. I think another issue was Tudor themselves over hyped it so much.
I've got the previous Ranger in the 41MM case size and the one thing no one ever mentions is the box cyrstal is amazing! I'm sure the 39mm is probably very much the same!
It is a simple watch, but that's very much it's charm.
I like it very much! 😍
Great video and a great watch. Tudor ticks all the boxes for me and I wear my Blue Pelagos 42 daily. I have been eyeing the Ranger for some time now. I just need to decide if it will find wrist time after my Pelagos, Wise and G-Shocks.
I sold my Blue Pelagos (after years of wear) for the Ranger. Very different, and some days I miss the bezel, but in terms of simplicity, I don't regret it. I love that I look down and know exactly what time it is, it is not flashy at all so it pairs well with everything...every outfit, strap, etc.
My best bargain of 2024 so far, the Seiko SLA055, brand new from an AD, 50% off MSRP - and like the Ranger, it's low key and flies under the radar
Did you paid it 2300€ or what?
Bugger, was l9okimh to buy a new Ranger this year to go with my BB58, but now I may look at the 2nd hand ones or see if I can get the Explorer
I picked up an unworn Tudor Black Bay 41 heritage for $2400 nzd and it is awesome. A beautiful watch plain,understated but a feel good wear
I love the Ranger for its simplicity. I was thinking of getting the Explorer but might get the Ranger instead!
Get the BB36 or BB41. To me that is a more comparable version to the explorer. Especially if you get the previous Gen smile dial.
The ranger is what the explorer should be
@@niklaslinner93 No, it's really not. The Explorer has elegance and character, whereas the Ranger is a £2K watch that looks like a dull, generic £200 watch - it is not understated, it is unimaginative.
A far better Explorer alternative would be the BB 36.
I picked up the Black Bay 58 blue for 40% off very lightly used. Great advice. I don't love the dial on the Ranger but its a great size.
I actually just got a Blue Dial BlackBay 58 last week for Just under $2200 that was originally purchased Jan this year from an AD and still has 4 1/2 years of warranty remaining! Don't know what's going on with the market lately but there is def deals to be found for incredible watches!
Where did you het that kind of deal????
Jody, you're right as always. It doesn't have to be flashy or fancy, but costing thousands of $$, it could at least have a date window !
Simplicity is its strength and in the eyes of the market it's also its weakness. It's a fine watch and I would be happy to wear one any day of the week. Less is more sometimes!
Less is less too.
Bought my Rootbeer GMT, unworn, from a big Japanese dealer for less 45% a week ago. Tudor is a massive bargain these days if you are prepared to shop around.
I agree 100% on the t-fit clasp. I started collecting in February and bought my first Tudor BB in 41mm and it is a fave. I love everything about the Ranger including the price but the dial is a huge swing and a miss for me. It looks like stickers were used for the hour markers and I’m shocked someone in design would sign off on that. That being said I’m a huge Tudor fan! 😊
My AD has loads of Tudor’s available in the store. I really like the Ranger, but I like a watch to have a date.
I have one. I bought one for myself as a retirement present and my first luxury watch. I would have loved it regardless, but I think it was just too big. If they had made it a tad smaller it would have been a hit. San Martin made an homage of it in 38mm and 36mm and I think they nailed it.
Should have been around during the 1016 era!
@@hootonhoot the perfect field watch, especially with a matte black dial. Sadly, prices are crazy.
Earlier this year I wanted a watch I could wear every day. I had a hard time deciding between the Ranger, the BB 58 and the Longines Spirit. While the other two are beautiful, there was something about the Ranger's unassuming appearance that made me get it in the end. It was almost as if the other two were trying too hard to be flashy (though I have to admit the BB 925 is one I still think about).
If you prefer a more subdued watch, I'd recommend the Ranger. When it comes to build quality, it felt as solid as the Black Bay, and I'd say it's one of those that will go well with many different straps if you want to give it some more character.
I think I mentioned it in another comment Jody - the Erebus Ascent Purple Helix was one of the very first "online" watches I bookmarked and one day, ONE day I will scrape enough together to get and review it. What a stunning watch! Best of luck to you with these pieces. I hope to follow in your footsteps one day. Having said that I really REALLY want a Ranger.
Love the Ranger. It’s a set it and forget it, do anything piece.
The biggest difference for me between the Ranger and the Explorer is the Ranger’s printed numerals in the faux lume color are not as dressy as the explorer. In my opinion, that makes the Ranger slightly more casual and a bit less versatile than the explorer.
But for somebody who likes the look of a field watch, the Ranger is phenomenal.
Picked up a amzwatch's watch as my first watch last month and I’m absolutely in love with it. Perfect size, looks elegant, very comfortable. Now my only problem is holding off from buying more watches so quickly!
Question please. As a still fairly recent Aussie import from the great white north … what watch resellers do you recommend for pre-owned watches here down under? I’m on the west coast, but travel within the country a little, so any location with Australia is fine, but what online retailers do you usually look at for deals?
Thank you!
Fil
Took a similar bath on my Jan 2022 Black Bay 41 Heritage with SW200. Cost £2550, sold it very lightly scuffed last month for £1550. Regular Tudors, it seems, depreciate like any other watch.
I bought the Black Bay 58 original two years ago and it’s beautiful but after a little while I found it a bit ostentatious for me so I looked again, I found the Black Bay 58 925 which was a bit more subtle, I bought it second hand and it has been my daily driver ever since. The Ranger looks beautiful and had I not got the 925 I would go for it. Great video as ever, thank you Jody.
the Ranger is a great watch - I have it on the bracelet and it is a keeper. I think Tudor could have done better with the dial but it remains a regular wear in my rotation. Buy with confidence I reckon.
I love the Ranger. It's an understated, simplistic beauty of a watch. I love mine! ❤👍🏼
Bought the Ranger brand new when it came out. Absolutely underrated and has been my daily beater for 2 years straight. Enjoy it more than my Rolex watches.
PS - 2 years of very hard use and it’s still -1 sec per day, without fail. Perfection.
Applied indices and a different hour hand would make this watch more desirable. The hour hand thing you simply can't unsee once you've seen it.
I agree. Would make the watch more interesting. The watch looks cheap
That’s why San Martin homaged this. The SN0107-G4 has a gloss enamel dial and the black with applied gilt indices is close to being my favorite watch. The quarter arabics and crown are better on the San Martin as well, as they are taken from the Rolex 6200 king submariner. The end result is a sensational piece.
Why would we pay over $200 for printed indices let alone 1k...nuts
I like Rolex and Tudor because their movements are +/- 2 or less per day. My Pelagos runs at -1/day
I have the old Ranger and have loved it. A 22mm strap hound!
Love a ranger so much but I just cannot justify the price with the dial in person I just feel its somewhat lacklustre that the hour markers are in no way raised
I wish Tudor had given the Ranger applied indices and the snowflake hands like it's other watches. I know it wouldn't be accurate for a homage, but it would've drastically changed it's appearance for the better. After trying it on in person, I think the Ranger also wears much bigger than 39mm--it feels like a 41mm.
I've had mine for about 4 or 5 months. THE best bracelet period for me. So comfortable and easier to adjust than a new San Martin :)
Best clasp in the business I reckon. Smaller than the Glidelock. Love it!
I agree. Best bracelet and clasp in the biz
WHY won’t they put this bracelet on the BB58? I’m considering ordering a Ranger bracelet from Tudor.
@chriscon8463 Gonna get the BB or Pelagos next, I think....
@@Timepieceguyvery true!
The silver flat tip on the minute hand “disappears” depending on the angle. It would look better if the lume went to the tip, or it was otherwise made to be always visible. Minor annoyances tho. Good watch otherwise. Very nice.
I LOVE the Ranger. IMHO, it’s truly an everyday tool watch. With my aging eyes, I’ve grown to appreciate a larger face in place of a dive bezel that I’ll actually never use. It will definitely be my next “large$” watch purchase.
You need to get your hands on Tudor Prince Date 74000N, the one with numbers on the dial and Ranger arrow hands. It's got it all - the bling, the field vibe, bit of a vintage charm but also the super cool looks that the Ranger lacks.
The Tudor I would get would be the BB36. It’s about 2,000-2,400 dollars on Chrono24 and we’re about 2800 new when released. Comes on metal Jubilee or Oyster. I would get the one on the brown strap, though because of the better price. They have the old ETA movement, though, and that is another reason for the price.
I was lucky enough to grab a Pelogos titanium for 4.5k from a guy at work who was moving back to his birth country a couple of years ago .
I love this watch and stands shoulder to shoulder with my Grand Seiko SBGN003 GMT .
My 2 luxury watches .
I would like a Ranger ,,, one day .
I like the Tudor Ranger, just wish the indices were applied !
I would like to have the ranger with white indices and numerals instead of the yellow/green one. Also applied indices and numerals would be great.
That image pop up! Now I can’t unsee it! Thanks a lot Doc!
Thanks Jody! I'd not heard the hour hand comparison and now I'm wiping tea off the wall.
At least it wasn't my St Andrew's Number 2 malt whisky
I looked at the ranger. I liked the fit and finish but I wasn't a fan of the greenish lume. Reminded me of chinese lume. If it were a tan or white lume, I would have bought one. I ended up buying one of the last NOS black bay 41 in the black dial.
I think you've nailed why tudor has grown as it has. word for word as you said: In the 90s my dad worked hard and bought a rolex, from an AD window, for about 5k.(gmt master btw!). Today 5k gets me... a shiny tudor from the tudor AD window. an experience I cannot have from rolex.
To me, this model look the best on a leather strap 🙂
But I think the dial is too large, proportions are not great. A smaller version would be better.
Agreed... it's why the Rolex 1016 Explorer works so well... 36mm, 20mm lug width... very well proportioned. Tudor Ranger was made big to be contemporary but its lost something in the proportions which in turn throws the visual design aesthetics out of whack.
I traded in my blue Pelagos for the Ranger and I am very happy with the choice. There are days when I still eye up the BB58, or the new BB58 GMT, but for some reason, I just keep coming back to my Ranger. It feels like home...and when you think of a watch, it looks like a watch. It reminds me of some of the cool sports and luxury cars from the earlier years when they would have clocks in the dash. For summer, I have it on a Crown & Buckle Chevron Adjustable strap...sort of a drab olive green with a gold stripe down the center. Looks awesome.
Thanks for all the great content Jody. My wife knows exactly what I am watching when she hears your opening line, and I love her impression of it too :)
I bought a san martin homage of the ranger ( probably the closest I can get) and have worn it a lot, I wanted to know how it would be on wrist as a daily and I feel like I want one so now it's just shelling out😂
Look nice in the metal, great value used, just a few mm small for me....
I have always wanted an Explorer and tried on the Ranger a couple times. I think my biggest turn off is the color of the printed dial. If it was a crisp white on black I may have pulled the trigger
Empty dial space and weird coloured indexes killed it. I still like it though.
I love the Tudor, but at 42mm, i rather enjoy wearing the San Martin 36mm better wrist size for my small wrist...so there go ,we can not have everything...I save quite bit of money in my humble opinion....but yeah Jody, what a great bargain from Tudor....thanks again great content as always.. from St George Utah...
In the UK the Ranger and a Black Bay 58 are £600 apart and I can definitely convince myself to buy the 58 over the ranger because of its features, looks, recognition, etc. even if I am dead set on the former. I can just imagine being drawn in by that bezel action and putting down the ranger
I've seen the Ranger for under $3,000 USD on eBay. I like it, but the Tudor I've been aiming for is the blue ETA BB36. That's as much as I'd want to spend on a watch outside of winning the lottery and getting a new Aqua Terra!
Doesn’t look enough like a Tudor. Needs applied indices and a snowflake hour hand. Maybe add 13-24 markers too since there is room.
Jodie, how many t-shirts do you own? - I got my Ranger when it was released, love it.
if the 58 had the Ranger's handset, it'd be an ideal watch. The Ranger "looks" awesome, but a printed dial for 3 grand USD?? That's tough.
Who needs all that when my Ascent will be on my wrist in a few months? ;-) Come on September!
Thank you, sir for another great presentation.
The boringness of the printed dial is why I switched my Hamilton Khaki Mechanical 38mm for the 36.4mm Seiko SRPJ. I don’t have particularly small wrists (love my Duros), but I think field watches just look best small (the 40mm SRPG felt monstrously large). Knowledge that the Hamilton is “better” isn’t enough, since the Seiko is more visually engaging. The brushed/applied indices really captured my imagination. I wish it stuck with 20mm lugs rather than dropping to 18mm, but I’m willing to live with it.
I’m imagining a Ranger, but the indices are applied (Orient Mako 3 does it). Maybe it stays with batons for the non-Arabics, maybe circles like a Black Bay, or squares like a Pelagos. And maybe snowflake hands. Part of the appeal of the Explorer is the Mercedes hands like a Submariner. Part of the appeal of the Seiko DressKX is the same hands as the SKX diver. As divisive as the hands can be, that handset says Tudor Diver, so why not stick with them?
Size. Size killed it, just like it's 41mm predecessor. It should've been 36mm or 37mm maximum. I've got the Watch Dives 36mm homage of the new Ranger, and it is damn near perfect, especially with its VK31 mecaquartz, it's the perfect grab and go watch. It is absolute vanilla ice cream in the best possible way.
A cracking watch good movement and nice looking without being flashy. The only thing that stops me buying it, is it's too similar to my 1016 Explorer which I suspect isn't a coincidence.
This is why I went for a Ranger rather than the second hand Explorers in my budget... those Explorers are NOTHING like the 1016 of old that I love. Sadly, the 1016 is way way out of my price range these days. I envy you.
@@fatkev1983 If I was choosing between a new Explorer and a Ranger it would be no contest I'd be going home with a Ranger and not for the cost benefit it's just nicer.
Reminds me of how omega charges more for the aqua terra than the SMP300.
I've been in to the local Tudor shop, only one that interests me is the BB Chrono. And the Royal. With a brown dial. But maybe I'm an outlier. Seriously though, if I were looking for a luxury watch I can just walk into a shop and buy, I'd be getting a Grand Seiko. I'm definitely an outlier....
My niggles are that they should have made all the lume out of the molded lume from the Black Bay Pro. It would have been nice to have the more svelte case or the revised Black Bay non-diver line too. I wouldn’t mind a polished bezel or if it were made of titanium. As it stands, I feel like my Monta Triumph is a better watch to own.
I want a ranger for a beater so used might be the way to go
I have a ranger and its my dayliebeater. Dont know how someone do not love it. Its a awsome watch
I’ve always liked the Ranger. I’m still considering one (a San Martin or Proxima version 😬). I think this watch was the victim of the TH-cam heard mentality. And yes I spelled that correctly. One TH-camr “heard” another one dismissing it and so on and so forth. Oh well. Maybe it will come down in price some more, and I will actually buy the real deal versus a Homage. Thanks as always. You sound a LOT better. Glad you’re feeling better.
Anyone objective with no exposure to TH-cam group-think can still tell that a dull matte dial with yellow-green printed markers with quarter arabics seemingly drawn on by a kid with crayons looks fkn ugly.
@@thegorn I stand corrected Sir.
I like the ranger. Good everyday watch. Clean. Timeless style
That Ranger is HOT, but you can get so many similar "cardinal" dials for the tiniest fraction of the price. I got a Timex x J Crew Andros off ebay for less that $100 & it is insanely sporty & rugged
I’ve always eyed the ranger, for the reasons you stated: flies under the radar. But, the printed indices is kinda what kills it at the price. I’ll still be buying one before the Black Bays, whenever it is I take that “luxury” brand step off.
Wait!!! You bought an aerospace!!!! Ah man! Love that watch!!! My grail!
I thought it was funny when you came out with the Ranger today. That is my favorite Tudor and the only one I would consider buying. Similarly, the Explorer is the only one of the regular Rolexes I like as well.
It looks like a great watch but Ive put money down on a great spec GADA so I'm just counting down the sleeps until September 😁
Honestly it reminds me of my Hamilton Khaki King that's half the price. Don't get me wrong, Tudor has a spot in a collection, but I think it's always going to be the Black Bay.
Nice deal, but never liked this one. The hour hand I won't discuss, but the minute hand too has a weird vibe the way the lume stops (I know it does this in The Explorer too, but somehow it works there and not here.)
I like! When I find around $3000 in the sofa, maybe I’ll go get that.
😅I bought this last week - so glad I did before this video came out and drove up the secondary price
U can get basically any tudor 40% off rrp atm very few exceptions bb58 less then £2k or 2k from watchfinder bb54 2.5-2.8k chrono black 2.5k panda 3k pelagos 2.5k-3k thts without haggling
The dial lloks so cheap. It looks like a middle schooler made it in an arts and crafts class.
The dial kills it for me. It needs something.
40% off SRP (lightly used) = it’s absolutely not selling. A tide may raise all ships, but when the tide goes out (the current market is tanking) alot of ships run aground. Can you still buy Tudor crisps?
'A canny bag o Tudor?' 🤣 Sadly, I don't think so.
@@JustOneMoreWatch Take out me wages! 😂
THE BEST DEAL IS NOT TO BUY ANYTHING AT ALL . THEN YOU SAVE A LOT OF MONEY 😮😮😮😮😮😮
The true 100% off deal
and a lifetime warranty
I can only do this deal for so long.
Blasphemy- are you even a watch enthusiast
This guy owns a g shock 100%
I really think if they did this with a display case back then it would have sold very very well.
I think you get a better looking and cheaper tool watch with the SINN 556 RS. Brand new, these sell for under 2k. The movement isnt in-house but still has a respectable workhorse in the Sellita Sw-200.
Umm, for me there is no getting past the shape of the hour hand that resembles that graphic you displayed and the dried-pee yellow faux patina. I completely agree with IDGuy’s suggested modifications. Making the hour hand slightly more arrow-like would make all the difference.
Hi Jody!
The reason I didn’t buy the Ranger in 2022 was and is the colour of the hands and indices! I can’t stand the snotty yellow! 🤷♂️
Best wishes,
Claus
I think they messed up by shrinking it to compete with the explorer. The older reference was a bit larger which applies to the garish nature of customers that Tudor tends to bring, the more manly industrious fella that might work a more manual job. I don’t know, but Tudors original flavor, at least in my opinion, used to be a bit more working class. With this modern shrink everything vibe, it doesn’t play to the folks that wanna feel the money that they spend. Hopefully I’m articulating my point, probably playing more into generalizations.
I was really pumped for the Ranger release, but when it was released in the same 39mm case as the bb58 with weird yellow lume it felt like a cheap and awkward money grab.
Thanks for the video. The Ranger looks like a cheap Chinese knock-off from Ali Express. Used Black Bay Pros can be had for $3k USD. That would be my preference.
Is the T Fit really better than the Glidelock?
San Martin have a teal dial version that looks way more interesting.
The entire SN0107 line looks more interesting
The price has to be it. Just like the Explorer which is typically a fraction of the cost of a Submariner.
I purchased the new 36mm Explorer I for my daughter. This watch is truly next level versus the Ranger. Having said this: the Ranger is beautiful in the metal. Pictures and video do nothing for the watch. I purchased a used Longines Spirit Titaniumn 40mm for 2K US all in and that was the end of my search for a used Ranger. The Spirit Titaniumn 40mm is a gorgeous watch. I would say on par with the Ranger. If the Ranger was a Titaniumn watch it would kill it IMO
I think this is a great watch. The Ranger history is different than the Black Bay line. I don’t get why people don’t see it as an Explorer alternative. The printed text etc rather than applied makes it a bit retro to me. I liked the design enough to get the San Martin 37mm homage of it. If I had the funds I would pick the Tudor up and give the San Martin away