i hate when people use the “culture” excuse. like, yes, might be a part of their culture, but it’s still sexual assault. it can be two things at once, and it’s not okay-it shouldn’t be encouraged or dismissed the way it so often is. i feel so awful for the girls who grow up being told it’s just something they have to deal with :(
@@maddiej5131 fortunatly times have changed & sexual assult/kidnapping is looked down upon in britian. Therefore, there is nothing you can possibly say that can excuse this crap
As a girl who lost her mum at 19 years old, the idea of taking your wedding bouquet to your mothers grave is honestly the most precious idea I have ever seen. I honestly think it’s something I’m going to do on my day. It was absolutely touching and I was in tears watching it. Just absolutely beautiful ❤️
My mum died when I was 9. I took my wedding bouquet to her grave after we married. It was special. You do think about them even more on days like that. Wedding, births of your children etc all very hard without your mummy. But they are with us always watching and guiding. That’s what brings me some comfort.
Cheyenne's level of maturity at such a young age and what she has been through has to be commended. Let's hope her maturity rubs off on her husband and 'moulds' him into the man that she deserves.
No "mature" woman would ever marry a man who treats animals and his woman the way she is treated. He sees her as an object there to please him. She is so immature. So painfully immature. What on earth about her says "mature" to you. Just simply her Mom passing doesn't mature someone. Probably stunting if anything. She is so immature she thinks this is a desirable way to be viewed and treated by your husband. I am flabbergasted at the people congratulating. Congratulations on what? A life of being gaslight, feeling trapped and being treated like an object only worthy while he is pleased. And if he isn't you must instantly bow to the demand. This is so unhealthy and sad.
It didn't mature into a decent man - he was convicted in 2019 of being part of a home invasion & mugging gang. He & his brother snatched & threatened to harm a toddler if the mother didn't hand over her valuables. They are still married, with 4 children
I'm honestly just impressed how she was able to plan and organise such a huge wedding by herself. Cheyenne is such a strong, capable and lovely person! Wishing her all the best in her life.
I felt so bad for Cheyenne throughout this episode. I've watched her through others and always thought she is exceptionally beautiful, very well spoken and well mannered. This poor girl does not deserve the cards she was handed. I was already upset about her mom passing so young and leaving her all alone with planning the wedding, but her groom gives me no hope for her happy future. Seeing him throw that innocent dog into the pond and laugh about it, joke about girls enjoying being grabbed while they scream and beg for the boys to stop, and saying he will mold her to what he likes made my skin crawl and my heart hurt for Cheyenne. Poor sweet girl, she deserves a fairytale prince, not an animal abuser who has spent time behind bars. Your dress was stunning and you made a beautiful bride, Cheyenne. I wish you happiness in life and whatever you choose to do.
They're still happily married with like 4 children now so its all worked out fine. People need to stop judging everyone else's relationships, its a tv show they can pick what bits to edit and how to present their recordings so we only see like 20 minutes of their entire lives anyway.
He went to prison for being part of a mugging gang, he was the one who grabbed a toddler from its mother and treated to kill the child if she didn't hand over her jewellery.... He's lovely 🙄
@@ashleigh-jaynetite7277 They didn’t just “cherry pick” him being an asshole because that show would have been hours. He threw a small dog into a pond. A dog who can’t defend himself and has to trust his family. Unacceptable.
What kind of monster violently throws a little dog into a lake 🤬? The girl seems so sweet and mature for her age, she deserves a better man or should I say boy.
She constantly pulls away from him, even looked away while saying her vows. Her body language says something sooooo different than “I’m in love with this guy, I want to marry him.”
@@karawigley6231 That's not a good thing. He is so abusive. He threatened to kidnap a woman's little boy during a robbery. He said he'd take the boy if she didn't give him everything she had on her.
No- GOOD FOR HER- she for sure wanted to be married this young, and seemed very into her man despite his issues and immature remarks and actions. She was into him from the get go, and embraced this lifestyle. I think she was spacey at times because im sure 1) her nerves were off the chain it’s life changing 2) I’m sure her mom crossed her mind s lot during this day snd she was emotional not having her there
Some of these girls come off as “simple” and impressionable… but to me -since seeing her in Josie’s episode- she comes off as strong, self aware, and that she knows what she wants. She literally manifested this 💯
@@maddiej5131 ...she's 16. There's a reason why (legal) marriages for people at her age have to have parental consent and/or judicial approval! She is a minor. I am in no way saying that she is not a strong or self aware individual as you stated later, I'm saying that she isn't mature enough to make this kind of decision, and parents not only allowing it but encouraging it is a disgusting practice. Showing signs of being unsure on a wedding day when she's still just a teen is completely understandable - she isn't ready to be in that position! Perfect signs of her not being ready? He's showing a BUNCH of red flags - animal abuse, forcing her into a situation that leaves her either socially ruined or giving in to what he wants, and saying he's going to turn her into the person he wants her to be? Those are danger warnings that an adult woman can choose to consider and then accept, but NOT a literal minor.
i did not expect to cry when she put the bouquet on the grave, oh my god. whatever you have to say about this couple or their culture, that was a universally human moment.
It was and it was beyond agitating for him to carry on how he did. She's hurting and he's all "kiss me, kiss me" n is all "meh all we can do is visit the grave after to leave her bouquet" n not actually offering her a shoulder or support or understanding. It's gross.
I’m so pissed for her. Everything about this guy just gives a bad feeling. He grabbed her(and at the end u can see what that looks and sounds like and it’s disgusting), he wanted the dog to get hit, and then he threw the dog into the lake, and said he can’t wait to mold her. She just looks like a deer caught in headlights. I think she felt that she had to do this bc her mom was there for the engagement. Come to find out from reading the comments apparently he’s in jail rn.
He also said, that even though it looks like you're hurting the girls when you grab them, they like it, so it's ok". I'm paraphrasing, either way it gross!!
@@sindimathe4232 maybe but last I check no culture restricts u from having half a brain and being a decent human….. I mean come on the guy is in jail….. he threatened a kid
This poor girl was totally taken advantage of. You can tell she did not want this. He threw her poor dog after begging him not to. He grabbed her and nearly forced her to kiss him, said that vile thing about molding her to what he wants, got himself hurt when Cheyenne pleaded for him not to do it less than a week before their wedding. She must’ve felt so obligated to marry him. He stayed by her as her mom was passing and she probably valued that connection enough to excuse the stuff we didn’t see on camera. She deserves so much more
surprisingly they are still married and have 4 kids. Jhon is also in and out of jail apparently, and Cheyenne is happy so I dont see why this matters honeslty. She seems to have done well for herself as well!
That journalist should get fired for asking a horrible question DURING MAKEUP application on her eyes (or even if it was on her face) makeup = no tears!!! Just so inconsiderate of her! As for Cheyenne, she’s selfless & I knew she was a Virgo ...#VirgoVibes she has settled for a self-centered arse whose so immature. Despite how selfish he is i hope he matures & learns from his wife to be a better human.
@@shesomadeline as a licensed esty and makeup artist i would have sent the producers and cameras out of the room after a question like that. what kind of sociopath asks about a dead parent during a clients WEDDING MAKEUP APPOINTMENT. thats disrespectful both to the bride and the artist trying to focus on a client
Cheyenne is truly beautiful and one of the genuinely nicest brides I’ve seen on this show. It’s a shame her husband is a violent monster. I feel so sad and scared for her and her young daughters having to be around a man like that. She literally tried to dodge the first kiss at the altar, and didn’t look at him once . she did not want this marriage
@@justicestanford5894 he threatened to murder a 2 year old in front of the baby’s mother in a robbery. He’s a fucking animal. He’s in and out of prison. Plus, any nearly-18 year old who’s forcing a 14 year old against a wall and assaulting them is disgusting
Yeah, she told you! 😂 You shouldn't argue with someone about an issue you really don't have much, if any, knowledge of.... And you could tell he was no good bc he threw her dog into a pond! Before that, he said he hopes they'll get run over! That's not strange to you?
WHAT!!! There are way too many red flags with him. Abuse of dogs is the biggest red flag of them all. These women need to start to break away from this culture and taking care and loving themselves.
Why is no one talking about the ending?? The voice over is joking about the seeds of future wedding while a girl is literally screaming “please let go of me” All these woman deserve better
I've watched a few Gypsy bride videos and this was by far the one that moved me most deeply through what the bride has to go through without her mom. She's a gorgeous girl.
Honestly the most beautiful bride… stalked her socials to see what she’s up to, she’s still as gorgeous as ever, 4 kids and still with John. John really let himself go though, his cage fight physique is long gone
I checked her instagram today and it’s private. The only pics that are available are what Google images have and I couldn’t see much about her private pics
Though I blame him from so many other things it’s not cruelty really; it’s not like dogs can’t swim or anything and the dog was clearly fine afterwards
The groom was incarcerated for violent crimes. He was part of a gang that robbed houses, and gang-mugged people after surrounding their victims with mopeds. He snatched & threatened to hurt a 3yo child if the mother didn't hand over her jewellery. A group of scaffolders & builders were able to chase him & his brother away
That's how most of them make their living. That or travelling overseas buying inferior products, and trying to pass them off as big brand superior products..🤔🤥😖
@@nicolenotizieeamici life doesn't work like that and covid don't work like that either. Tuberculosis killed more people than covid yet no one's freaking out about that.
Sadly he ended up exactly how you think. He was arrested for threatening to kill a Mom and her toddler. He tried to kidnap a kid while committing a robbery as well. Such a stand up guy. I feel bad for her she seems nice but he is a piece of work
I came across Cheyenne’s story and thought she was just such a beautiful young lady both inside and out. She truly fascinated me. She made me want to know more about the Traveler life and bc of her I’ve watched more than 3 dozen Gypsy wedding videos. I pray she’s doing well.
And he is a Criminal !! Robbed a woman threading to snatch her kid. Disgusting! ! The moment that he threw the dog I khew it , he had something bad inside him.
He and his family are literally the reason people still don’t trust travelers which is a damn shame! The culture is unique and rich and most are wonderful people.
Why is it unkind to discuss emotional things? As someone who lost her mother i can assure you that it is ok to talk/ask about it. Death is part of life, and it is ok to talk about it even if it brings up emotions. Also, it is a freaking reality show, so calm down with the *unkind* nonsense.
@@goodaskale i think they meant it as it’s a fresh wound, and it’s one of the biggest days of a woman’s life and she’s without her mother, someone who is their closest advisor in times like that and she obviously is still hurting so bad that it brings her to tears every time she’s mentioned so i think it was more like there’s a place and time for everything yk? especially when she got her makeup done and thinking about her mom’s tragic passing breaks her. but i agree with you 100% on the fact that grief is ok and it’s healthy. also, i’m sorry for the loss of your mom. i pray for healing for anyone who has lost a parent. it’s honestly my worst nightmare 🙏🏽🙏🏽
@@sarahmcdonnell7705 on a reality show!!!!! These shows are quite literally about human drama. Do you guys know that TV is scripted and/or pre planned? They don't just turn on the camera and surprise people with trick questions!
@@ulefab7503 it was the fact that he clearly doesn’t respect her. It’s her dog, she told him not to, he did it anyways and he laughed hysterically at how upset she was. He’s a psycho
@@HopkinsChloe Its not too smart to result to physicalty with a guy like him. He would quickly react to you, either by hurting you, or the dogs or even to you and the dogs. Best to quitely go home and than go and get a restraining order and get rid of him forever.
It annoyed me that the women of her boyfriends family didn't support her in the planning of the wedding. She didn't have her mom there so they should of stepped up
My tears flowed freely for this young girl. She was so emotionless most of the time and it just broke my heart. She looked absolutely beautiful though!
There are a LOT of cultures that have similar traditions. There are some where the male literally grabs the women he thinks is cute from the side of the road and forces her to marry him.😳 I understand all cultures are different and have vastly different traditions but I have a morality line that just doesn’t like that stuff.
I just want to hug her and tell her it'll be ok, there's so much happening that even I feel overwhelmed! She's so young, just lost her Mum, has to plan by herself, and all those people staring and taking pictures, she's far braver than I would be in that situation
A wedding is supposed to be a joyous occasion. Why did none of it feel that way? The heartfelt moment was the sadness of her mother passing and the constant look of being lost/empty in Cheyenne’s eyes.
I felt the pain through my phone when the beautiful bride got emotional when her makeup was being done. I pray she finds peace & wish her the best of luck in her marriage.💖
At 20 she’ll be “perfect” she already is! Being 16, she’s more mature than I ever was at that age. Also she’s lost her mother. My goodness. My condolences 💐 She’s absolutely beautiful on her big day. ❤
Cheyenne and Josie have always been the most memorable brides for me in the history of this show. Also, just to add in case no one has already said it in the comments, girls: VIRGINITY IS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT. NO AMOUNT OF SEXUAL ACTIVITY DEVALUES YOU OR YOUR EXISTENCE, SEXUAL ACTS DO NOT DETERMINE YOUR WORTH. Just a lil PSA in case someone needs to hear it today. ❤️
You’re right, a person’s Virginity is not society’s business but It’s NOT a social construct. It’s something you can NOT get back and CAN devalue your worth in certain communities. It is what it is.
@@CJ-jy4vd you’re right. I sorry. I should have been more specific! TO ANY PERSON WITH A VAGINA ON THIS EARTH, “VIRGINITY” IS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT CREATED BY MEN WHO DIDNT WANT THEIR WIVES TO REALISE HOW SMALL THEIR PENISES ARE, HOW POOR THEIR SEXUAL PERFORMANCE IS, AND TO MAINTAIN THEIR PRECIOUS, FRAGILE EGOS FROM HAVING TO IMAGINE YOU WERE EVER PENETRATED BY ANYTHING OTHER THAN THEM. THIS STATEMENT APPLIES TO ALL HUMANS WITH VAGINAS, IN ANY CULTURE, IN ANY COUNTRY, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY WILL TRY TO INDOCTRINATE INTO YOU. YOU ARE A WHOLE PERSON, AND NO MAN’S PENIS CAN CHANGE OR TAKE AWAY FROM OR DEVALUE YOU, PLEASE DO NOT LISTEN TO ASSHOLES ON THE INTERNET WHO SAY OTHERWISE!!! There we go, that should make things a little more clearly defined for future readers. I really wouldn’t want young ppl to end up….you know. Like you.
@@razmiddle9410 I’ve dated several. But since you don’t think sexuality is anyones’s business, I’m not sure why you’re asking. And unless you are a teen girl whose parents are teaching them that boys won’t want them if they’re not virgins, my message wasn’t targeted for you.
If sexual activity did not devalue your sexual worth then men wouldn’t care if you are a hoe and there would be no worth put on virginity, but both are absolutely not the case. M’en value virginity, and any sane man doesn’t want a woman with a rich sexual past. You can stomp your feet about it all you want, these are facts.
I'm shocked that she doesn't see what his behavior will be like. Behavior with a dog, what kind of things he talks about. I think she agreed to marriage so quickly because she lost her mother and she needed love and a different life✨
She said they're taught that they're to marry their first "boyfriend," and that thing was her first. When one is raised with strongly imprinted beliefs, it's nearly impossible to eradicate them and the "traditions" just go on and on and on.....
She’s 16 and he had visions of grandeur. It’s clear his behaviors are learned from others, as are the things he said. I do think he’s a good person and hopefully their love has evolved since.
I love how you can see the other people that have been on here in their relatives wedding. But the fact he says" I can mold her to how I want her to be" shows the respect they have for their partner.
Being sexual harassed is the best thing that ever happened? Really? Goes to show the suppression of women in this community. They think that is normal and ok, very sad. But all the best, she looks beautiful. Not fond of him though, anyone that can just abuse an animal like that isn’t a safe person to be with.
@@mchanel950 he was imprisoned for 3 years in 2018 for robbing a woman and threatening to kidnap her child and for also being a member of moped bike robber gang....he was released from prison in 2021...They have four kids now.
Now , 13 years later . They're going strong . Happily in love with beautiful 4 kids ! He must have a great job due to their lavish lifestyle. They truly grew up together it's actually beautiful they are actually happy and proving everyone wrong that doubted them due to aspects shown on this show
My own daughter is twenty-five and is focused on developing her career. I raised her as a sole-parent to be independent, strong and gave her lessons in what red flags to watch out for. She is shrewd. If only Cheyanne had a chance to have a wider choice. I believe she would do so much better. Poor girl.
@astrid garcia wasn’t needed, Single parents are strong and deserve more. That was rude of you tbh and you never know they might not even be single now.
@astrid garcia no, you dont always get to pick the man you want. you are arrogant, this is taught in schools these days. people can threaten you with money, physical harm, mental harm can make you feel like you have to stay otherwise theyll hurt themselves, etc etc. and sometimes people show their true selves after marriage. dont you dare ever blame a woman or man for ending up in a violent relationship. grow up
Such a beautiful bride! I love the sparkly tennis shoes she wore, casual elegance and comfort! The dress is my fave of all the gypsy brides I've seen so far, it's not tacky or a gawd awful color. Her mum I'm sure was there in spirit. Sad she didn't have her mum there for her special day.
Wow their relationship is so toxic its disgusting, she justified him basically attempting to sexually assault her because ol well he wants to marry me so its fine 🤦🏻♀️ Then he gets quoted saying he gets to fix/mood her to be perfectly what he wants her to be thats just sick 🤢
If he treats you the way he treats animals your in for a world of hurt. Also if anyone EVER treated any of my animals like that they would be out the door sooner then they could say “wait!”
She was trying to be so much braver than her years , trying hard not to cry when we 1st saw her come out in her wedding dress, I nearly cried with her !
This episode hit pretty close to home. I lost my mom at 23 to brain cancer. I miss her everyday but I don’t even know how I could cope with it being a teenager. Poor thing. She seems quite sweet and polite, especially to the people as she is meeting with different businesses to order thing for her wedding. It seems a bit rare compared to the majority of the girls on the shoes. Maybe it’s the self absorbed, stuck up type that want to be on the show. I hope most girls are like Cheyenne.
The wedding industry must be booming there-She is a Beautiful Bride(so sad for her with her Moms passing-my deepest condolences,it’t not the same but her Mom is looking down on her with so much love,support,pride,may she Rest In Peace 💫🙏💔👼🦋🕊
I feel Cheyenne. I was 15 when my moms health turned for the worst. I had to step in her shoes to take care of everything including learning how to measure her insulin because she had a bad stroke and couldn't do it. My husband knew when we married I be taking care of two houses. I did all the way up until God called her home in 2009. It's been 13 years and it still hurts. Cheyenne it will get easier in time to deal with your moms death. She is always with you sweetie and would be proud of you. I pray you have a happy long and blessed marriage
I’m so sorry for your loss 🙏 She is in a better place and she was very lucky to have such an amazing daughter to help her get through those days more comfortably! ❤️ God bless you and your family!
Truly! I smiled so wide my cheeks hurt when that happened. Unfortunately that was the only part of this episode that didn’t piss me off or make my heart ache.
When she cried when she came out of the bedroom in her beautiful dress and looking so stunning, my heart just broke for her. Her thoughts were of her Mum. This gorgeous and well spoken girl is going to have one hell of a life with that little shit.....The car not turning up was a sign from her Mum I think, poor girl what an absolute mistake she made.....
These kids deserve so much better. The girls should be treated like fellow human beings. The boys shouldn't be taught to essentially be immature children. I'm glad I see a few women who are still single and want better for themselves and to find someone who will treat them well. ALSO. About grabbing: "It looks bad but it ain't. Boy looks like he's hurting the girl. Girl wants that." Girl at end of video: "No I really don't want to do this, no. Please let go of me!" That is assault. That is not courtship.
He’s a nasty piece of work, I worked at the prison he was in. Some other members of his family aren’t much better either, mainly the 2 sisters beating up a pregnant woman. I hope this girl wasn’t a victim of his violence
@@tamielizabethallaway2413 I have not broken any areas regarding confidentiality. It’s in the public domain that he was arrested and later jailed. I did not name the prison (that is also in the public domain). I haven’t used my name, so all in all I do not see where I have broken a confidence
@@tamielizabethallaway2413 I got bored reading your comment/essay after a while. I was not “giving inside information” away and nor was I “bragging about meeting”.You don’t know me, you don’t know what I do, so you can’t call me untrustworthy. Yet again, I did not name my place of employment or my role in said employment. My comment has nothing to do with the programme he appeared on. Also it’s a bit of an update for people who think he’s some catch, but even without him being in a HMP establishment, his cruelty can be seen when he throws her dog in the river
I firmly believe that because that was filmed, it would have dishonoured her if she hadn’t married him. I think she went along with this because she had to. She didn’t look like she actually wanted to be there at all and her husband is a complete POS who’s in and out of jail
I remember that episode. I remember seeing these girls get grabbed and fighting to be let go but the boys don't let them go and even pull them by their hair. I remember seeing her and him it's Just disgusting. Like how can parents allow this to happen to their young daughters
It's really cool to see different cultures, however I can't imagine how life would be if I married my first ever boyfriend, and getting engaged without even living together for a small period of time
My mother passed away when I was 15..though I got married a little later…but I missed her every moment of that day..now i am mom of 4 kids n I still miss her..I can feel her pain..
Such a beautiful soul.... not trying to be THAT feminist, but this guy really makes me feel weird. I know grabbing and whatnot is their tradition, but he doesn't seem to know her worth or just chooses not to recognize it. MOLDING someone? Like, okay... am I crazy or do y'all see it?
@@cindysemblante4411 he served three years in prison from 2018-21 for robbing a woman and threatening to kidnap her child...he was part of a citywide violent moped bike robber gang. But they are still together and have 4 children.
I remember her from that grabbing episode. I was surprised to see her again I like how people try to use culture to justify disgusting and dangerous behavior. Doesn't make it right just because it's tradition.
If John doesn't grow out of his need to hurt or scare her dogs she is in for a rude awakening. Cheyenne is naturally classy and obviously has a deep emotional intelligence. She is a beautiful bride and John is very handsome I just hope that they can evolve into something that's meaningful for both of them.
When he said the part about her not having her mother there and how difficult it must be, along with leaving a bouquet after they are married at her graveside was a turning point for me.
Marsha, I’m so sorry you had to lose your mum so young. I lost my dad to cancer at 39 and I felt/feel robbed. I’m 48 now and can’t even fathom losing my mum anytime soon. She’s not just my mum but my best friend. Yours is still with you, watching over you and guiding you. All you need to do is look over your left shoulder and she’ll be there. This may sound strange but dimes are the strongest evidence that an angel (your mum in this case) is near/with you. Finding them is tell. My mum, sister and I have been finding them all over the place in our homes almost daily for the last 10 years since he passed, in places they shouldn’t be, like in the fridge for example. I once set my iPad down on the couch to go with my husband to our smoking closet and when I returned to the living room there was a dime stuck to the screen of my iPad. Feathers are another way that your mum tells you that she’s been there or is there at that moment.
I'm sorry now but she is perfect how she is. Him saying he will mould her the way he wants her. NO John maybe look at yourself and your own actions, it's you who needs to change.. and the way you treated that poor dog
There’s so many red flags coming off of her groom it’s terrifying. The things he’s comfortable doing while being filmed makes me wonder what he’ll do off camera. I hope she is is doing okay.
" It's called grabbing" no... it's called sexual assault and unlawful restraint on a minor!!
TOTALLY AGREE AND WAS MORTIFIED OF THE CONTENT SHE OBLIVIOUSLY MARRIED BECAUSE SHE NEEDED SOMEONE TO TAKECARE OF HER AFTER HER MOTHERS DEATH
i hate when people use the “culture” excuse. like, yes, might be a part of their culture, but it’s still sexual assault. it can be two things at once, and it’s not okay-it shouldn’t be encouraged or dismissed the way it so often is. i feel so awful for the girls who grow up being told it’s just something they have to deal with :(
It’s a tradition because back then the women used to dead ass be kidnapped and married! Now it’s more playful and expected at events.
@@maddiej5131 stop normalizing sexual assault
@@maddiej5131 fortunatly times have changed & sexual assult/kidnapping is looked down upon in britian. Therefore, there is nothing you can possibly say that can excuse this crap
“Grow and mold her into what I like” “by the time she’s 20, she’s perfect “ I feel for these young girls , they deserve more .
Right? So possessive
that comment he made made me feel sooooo groosss
I heard that and instantly said "she ain't a plant, she's a human able to make her own choice."
I wanted to slap him when he said that.
I know that expression made my blood run cold
As a girl who lost her mum at 19 years old, the idea of taking your wedding bouquet to your mothers grave is honestly the most precious idea I have ever seen. I honestly think it’s something I’m going to do on my day. It was absolutely touching and I was in tears watching it. Just absolutely beautiful ❤️
My mum died when I was 9. I took my wedding bouquet to her grave after we married. It was special. You do think about them even more on days like that. Wedding, births of your children etc all very hard without your mummy. But they are with us always watching and guiding. That’s what brings me some comfort.
Yes it is lovely. And i left a chair empty for my papa so his spirit could sit there 😊
meee toooo!!! lost my mum a couple years ago and im really crying at this hahah
Lucky you. Mine is a molester and is unfortunately still alive
@@kalakalim4081 your MOTHER molested you???? you sure you're not making it up?
Yeah... the way they treat an animal says something about a person too...
Thank god you picked up on that as well....
Yep, most definitely
Amen.
TRUTH!
So true and how they treat the female members of their family
Cheyenne's level of maturity at such a young age and what she has been through has to be commended. Let's hope her maturity rubs off on her husband and 'moulds' him into the man that she deserves.
This needs more likes.
No "mature" woman would ever marry a man who treats animals and his woman the way she is treated. He sees her as an object there to please him. She is so immature. So painfully immature. What on earth about her says "mature" to you. Just simply her Mom passing doesn't mature someone. Probably stunting if anything. She is so immature she thinks this is a desirable way to be viewed and treated by your husband. I am flabbergasted at the people congratulating. Congratulations on what? A life of being gaslight, feeling trapped and being treated like an object only worthy while he is pleased. And if he isn't you must instantly bow to the demand. This is so unhealthy and sad.
It didn't mature into a decent man - he was convicted in 2019 of being part of a home invasion & mugging gang. He & his brother snatched & threatened to harm a toddler if the mother didn't hand over her valuables.
They are still married, with 4 children
@@vegetablepimps 👍👍👍👍👍👍She’s in for a miserable life!
Doubt it big time.
I'm honestly just impressed how she was able to plan and organise such a huge wedding by herself. Cheyenne is such a strong, capable and lovely person! Wishing her all the best in her life.
She is strong but she deserves sooooo much better then him.
I felt so bad for Cheyenne throughout this episode. I've watched her through others and always thought she is exceptionally beautiful, very well spoken and well mannered. This poor girl does not deserve the cards she was handed. I was already upset about her mom passing so young and leaving her all alone with planning the wedding, but her groom gives me no hope for her happy future.
Seeing him throw that innocent dog into the pond and laugh about it, joke about girls enjoying being grabbed while they scream and beg for the boys to stop, and saying he will mold her to what he likes made my skin crawl and my heart hurt for Cheyenne. Poor sweet girl, she deserves a fairytale prince, not an animal abuser who has spent time behind bars. Your dress was stunning and you made a beautiful bride, Cheyenne. I wish you happiness in life and whatever you choose to do.
Well spoken?!
Same tbh the guy gives me the creeps
They're still happily married with like 4 children now so its all worked out fine. People need to stop judging everyone else's relationships, its a tv show they can pick what bits to edit and how to present their recordings so we only see like 20 minutes of their entire lives anyway.
He went to prison for being part of a mugging gang, he was the one who grabbed a toddler from its mother and treated to kill the child if she didn't hand over her jewellery.... He's lovely 🙄
@@ashleigh-jaynetite7277 They didn’t just “cherry pick” him being an asshole because that show would have been hours. He threw a small dog into a pond. A dog who can’t defend himself and has to trust his family. Unacceptable.
What kind of monster violently throws a little dog into a lake 🤬? The girl seems so sweet and mature for her age, she deserves a better man or should I say boy.
Yes so right I thought nobody noticed that boy innocent dog so hard and to Lake and she does deserve way much better.
The kind who said he will “mold” a girl into being what he wants.....
The kind of individual who believes sexually assaulting a minor claims her.
she told him to stop 🚩🚩
He's now in prison for mass burglary during one he held a child hostage and threatened to take him.
She constantly pulls away from him, even looked away while saying her vows. Her body language says something sooooo different than “I’m in love with this guy, I want to marry him.”
Poor kid has been so conditioned
They’re actually one of the only couples from this show who are still married.
@Terri Mansfield he is in jail now for threatening a woman’s child if the woman didn’t hand over her jewelry for him to rob off of her
@@karawigley6231 That's not a good thing. He is so abusive. He threatened to kidnap a woman's little boy during a robbery. He said he'd take the boy if she didn't give him everything she had on her.
@@starshinemoonbeam idk man..the way the girl didn't even run to save her doggy and the way she was worried when her bf got hurt...idk
cheyanne seems so lovely and intelligent, she deserves more than some kid that wants to "mold her into what I like." she deserves TRUE love.
That true I feel sorry this poor girl 🥺
yes
Yes
Google them and read about what he's done... Absolutely disgusting!
Google them and read about what he's done... Absolutely disgusting!
She literally didn't look at him once during their vows. My heart breaks for this poor girl, being raised to think this is who she has to be
Sickening isn't it? I hate this planet sometimes.
No- GOOD FOR HER- she for sure wanted to be married this young, and seemed very into her man despite his issues and immature remarks and actions. She was into him from the get go, and embraced this lifestyle.
I think she was spacey at times because im sure
1) her nerves were off the chain it’s life changing
2) I’m sure her mom crossed her mind s lot during this day snd she was emotional not having her there
Some of these girls come off as “simple” and impressionable… but to me -since seeing her in Josie’s episode- she comes off as strong, self aware, and that she knows what she wants.
She literally manifested this 💯
@@maddiej5131 ...she's 16. There's a reason why (legal) marriages for people at her age have to have parental consent and/or judicial approval! She is a minor. I am in no way saying that she is not a strong or self aware individual as you stated later, I'm saying that she isn't mature enough to make this kind of decision, and parents not only allowing it but encouraging it is a disgusting practice. Showing signs of being unsure on a wedding day when she's still just a teen is completely understandable - she isn't ready to be in that position!
Perfect signs of her not being ready? He's showing a BUNCH of red flags - animal abuse, forcing her into a situation that leaves her either socially ruined or giving in to what he wants, and saying he's going to turn her into the person he wants her to be? Those are danger warnings that an adult woman can choose to consider and then accept, but NOT a literal minor.
@@maddiej5131 Lol, she literally didn’t know the word for “grown”. It’s insane ppl could cheerlead this bullshit.
Adult men at 18 & 19 “grabbing” girls of 13 & 14 is absolutely abhorrent. It’s immoral & illegal. These girls are children.
You need to try the sigma male attitude
i did not expect to cry when she put the bouquet on the grave, oh my god. whatever you have to say about this couple or their culture, that was a universally human moment.
She is wonderful. He is disgusting..
Me too 😭😭
My mom passed away about 7 months before my wedding. I was 23 and it was devastating I can't even imagine at 15
It was and it was beyond agitating for him to carry on how he did. She's hurting and he's all "kiss me, kiss me" n is all "meh all we can do is visit the grave after to leave her bouquet" n not actually offering her a shoulder or support or understanding. It's gross.
I’m so pissed for her. Everything about this guy just gives a bad feeling. He grabbed her(and at the end u can see what that looks and sounds like and it’s disgusting), he wanted the dog to get hit, and then he threw the dog into the lake, and said he can’t wait to mold her. She just looks like a deer caught in headlights. I think she felt that she had to do this bc her mom was there for the engagement. Come to find out from reading the comments apparently he’s in jail rn.
exactly ! he literally said he’s gonna mold her so by 20 she’s perfect for him! that’s sick!
@@samanthabordone4387 literally exactly!if anyone ever said tht about someone and I over heard it I’d lose my mind
He also said, that even though it looks like you're hurting the girls when you grab them, they like it, so it's ok". I'm paraphrasing, either way it gross!!
You hit the nail on the head with her following thru for her mother… but she’s also young and naive
@@sindimathe4232 maybe but last I check no culture restricts u from having half a brain and being a decent human….. I mean come on the guy is in jail….. he threatened a kid
This poor girl was totally taken advantage of. You can tell she did not want this. He threw her poor dog after begging him not to. He grabbed her and nearly forced her to kiss him, said that vile thing about molding her to what he wants, got himself hurt when Cheyenne pleaded for him not to do it less than a week before their wedding. She must’ve felt so obligated to marry him. He stayed by her as her mom was passing and she probably valued that connection enough to excuse the stuff we didn’t see on camera. She deserves so much more
Oh get over yourself
At the beginning of the show he also joked about them (the dogs) being killed on the road.
surprisingly they are still married and have 4 kids. Jhon is also in and out of jail apparently, and Cheyenne is happy so I dont see why this matters honeslty. She seems to have done well for herself as well!
@@hexedstars Because he's abusive that's why it matters? He robbed someone at gun point
I definitely started tearing up when she was getting her make-up done and she was getting emotional when they asked about her mom
I thought it was a bit opportunistic to ask her what her mom would be doing in that moment.
@@sunjewel9064 I thought it was truly heartless!
That journalist should get fired for asking a horrible question DURING MAKEUP application on her eyes (or even if it was on her face) makeup = no tears!!!
Just so inconsiderate of her!
As for Cheyenne, she’s selfless & I knew she was a Virgo ...#VirgoVibes she has settled for a self-centered arse whose so immature. Despite how selfish he is i hope he matures & learns from his wife to be a better human.
@@shesomadeline as a licensed esty and makeup artist i would have sent the producers and cameras out of the room after a question like that. what kind of sociopath asks about a dead parent during a clients WEDDING MAKEUP APPOINTMENT. thats disrespectful both to the bride and the artist trying to focus on a client
Me too..I felt so sad her mum wasn't still alive.
‘Usually my birthdays on the same day as my mums so I didn’t really want to celebrate it’ I want to give this girl a hug
Cheyenne is truly beautiful and one of the genuinely nicest brides I’ve seen on this show. It’s a shame her husband is a violent monster. I feel so sad and scared for her and her young daughters having to be around a man like that. She literally tried to dodge the first kiss at the altar, and didn’t look at him once
. she did not want this marriage
He’s not a monster he’s 17. He’s a child just like she is. Unfortunately he’s being raised in a toxic culture so he definitely has the potential
@@justicestanford5894 he threatened to murder a 2 year old in front of the baby’s mother in a robbery. He’s a fucking animal. He’s in and out of prison. Plus, any nearly-18 year old who’s forcing a 14 year old against a wall and assaulting them is disgusting
@@emilybarclay8831 oh well then… never mind.
Yeah, she told you! 😂 You shouldn't argue with someone about an issue you really don't have much, if any, knowledge of.... And you could tell he was no good bc he threw her dog into a pond! Before that, he said he hopes they'll get run over! That's not strange to you?
People are always protective over trash nowadays, and forget about the innocent.....braindead world, braindead!
WHAT!!! There are way too many red flags with him. Abuse of dogs is the biggest red flag of them all. These women need to start to break away from this culture and taking care and loving themselves.
I thought it was cornering her to make her give him a kiss was the first one…😭
@@payton335 FR like that's assault but everyone's talking about the dog. Yeah it's horrible, but the first sign was cornering her. It's disgusting.
@Nonaya Bidness both of those things
Amen 🙏
@@payton335 it was a "grab". That's why she had to marry him
Why is no one talking about the ending??
The voice over is joking about the seeds of future wedding while a girl is literally screaming “please let go of me”
All these woman deserve better
Honestly made me tear up!
It’s their culture...grabbing is how they make matches.
Yeah, that was bad. I hope the cameraman went and intervened. That’s not ok
It’s horrible
Made my blood boil. That poor girl
I've watched a few Gypsy bride videos and this was by far the one that moved me most deeply through what the bride has to go through without her mom. She's a gorgeous girl.
Honestly the most beautiful bride… stalked her socials to see what she’s up to, she’s still as gorgeous as ever, 4 kids and still with John. John really let himself go though, his cage fight physique is long gone
Whats her instagram?
Can you give me her social details x
FOUR kids?!? How the hell long ago was this wedding?!?
@@MiffetBlue 10:37 it says 2012!
I checked her instagram today and it’s private. The only pics that are available are what Google images have and I couldn’t see much about her private pics
Throwing the dog in the water like that is animal cruelty!
I couldn't believe he actually threw him nor could I believe she wasn't pissed off about it. That was cruel...what else is he capable of?
Yes! How a man treats animals says a lot about how he will treat others. She had better be carful.
Exactly!!! i was not expecting him to actually throw the dog. What a piece of total garbage
Absolutely vile.. what in God's name does she see in it..I hope the authorities where called.. doubt it though
Though I blame him from so many other things it’s not cruelty really; it’s not like dogs can’t swim or anything and the dog was clearly fine afterwards
probably one of the most classy weddings i’ve seen on this show. cheyenne looked so gorgeous and her dress was beautiful as well, not ridiculous.
But Cheyenne is classy. She has a heart of gold
The groom was incarcerated for violent crimes. He was part of a gang that robbed houses, and gang-mugged people after surrounding their victims with mopeds. He snatched & threatened to hurt a 3yo child if the mother didn't hand over her jewellery. A group of scaffolders & builders were able to chase him & his brother away
That's how most of them make their living. That or travelling overseas buying inferior products, and trying to pass them off as big brand superior products..🤔🤥😖
Covid should have taken these kind of awful humans …
@@nicolenotizieeamici life doesn't work like that and covid don't work like that either. Tuberculosis killed more people than covid yet no one's freaking out about that.
@@jenpringle6402 no shit life doesn’t work like that
Well there you go
Sadly he ended up exactly how you think. He was arrested for threatening to kill a Mom and her toddler. He tried to kidnap a kid while committing a robbery as well. Such a stand up guy. I feel bad for her she seems nice but he is a piece of work
How'd you here about the gypsy girls and guys updates? Are they still together?
@@peachyswirl396 they also have four kids
@@daniellababy3971 of course they do 🤦🏽♀️ this poor woman and those poor kids
@@daniellababy3971 thxs
How do u know this ?? Her Instagram private
I came across Cheyenne’s story and thought she was just such a beautiful young lady both inside and out. She truly fascinated me. She made me want to know more about the Traveler life and bc of her I’ve watched more than 3 dozen Gypsy wedding videos. I pray she’s doing well.
And he is a Criminal !! Robbed a woman threading to snatch her kid. Disgusting! ! The moment that he threw the dog I khew it , he had something bad inside him.
Deadass knew it since the "grabbing" tradition was mentioned. Digusting.
Yes!!! I hope everyone sees your comment @diviane keully. His whole family are criminals, even his mum was involved in an assault!
He and his family are literally the reason people still don’t trust travelers which is a damn shame! The culture is unique and rich and most are wonderful people.
Is there another video? How did you guys know about him & his family being criminals? The way he threw that dog into the water is disgusting!
How did you find this out?
The interviewer was being beyond unkind to ask that poor girl about her mother like that. You could see she was on the verge of tears.
Why is it unkind to discuss emotional things? As someone who lost her mother i can assure you that it is ok to talk/ask about it. Death is part of life, and it is ok to talk about it even if it brings up emotions.
Also, it is a freaking reality show, so calm down with the *unkind* nonsense.
@@goodaskale agreed .
@@goodaskale i think they meant it as it’s a fresh wound, and it’s one of the biggest days of a woman’s life and she’s without her mother, someone who is their closest advisor in times like that and she obviously is still hurting so bad that it brings her to tears every time she’s mentioned so i think it was more like there’s a place and time for everything yk? especially when she got her makeup done and thinking about her mom’s tragic passing breaks her.
but i agree with you 100% on the fact that grief is ok and it’s healthy. also, i’m sorry for the loss of your mom. i pray for healing for anyone who has lost a parent. it’s honestly my worst nightmare 🙏🏽🙏🏽
@@goodaskale she was in the middle of getting her wedding makeup done.
@@sarahmcdonnell7705 on a reality show!!!!! These shows are quite literally about human drama. Do you guys know that TV is scripted and/or pre planned? They don't just turn on the camera and surprise people with trick questions!
This is by far the best gypsy wedding I have seen. Her makeup was great and the dresses were reasonable
If my ‘partner’ did that to my dog or any animal in front of me He wouldn’t see a wedding
Agreed!!! I’d of kicked him so hard into that lake to get the dog and then push the bastard back in!!! I can’t bare to watch it!!! Poor dog!!
@@HopkinsChloe Oh come on; not the nicest thing to do but dogs can swim and he was clearly unbothered
@@ulefab7503 it was the fact that he clearly doesn’t respect her. It’s her dog, she told him not to, he did it anyways and he laughed hysterically at how upset she was. He’s a psycho
Agreeed!!
@@HopkinsChloe Its not too smart to result to physicalty with a guy like him. He would quickly react to you, either by hurting you, or the dogs or even to you and the dogs. Best to quitely go home and than go and get a restraining order and get rid of him forever.
What’s the deal with all the “what a lovely couple” comment? The guy is anything but lovely ......
Exactly
Fr!!!!!!
Yes but she loves him
@@bharvey3214 doesn't mean he can treat her like that. Also, she was just sixteen.
Yeah this is disturbing
The bride was so very beautiful and the dress was gorgeous!!! My heart goes out to her for her loss. I hope they have a great life together!
It annoyed me that the women of her boyfriends family didn't support her in the planning of the wedding. She didn't have her mom there so they should of stepped up
They were jealous. She is beautiful inside and out.
They prob wudnt even try to overstep that mark. Aye.
That's what I thought, an aunt should have been helping her, or even a married friend.
Or an aunt or older cousin
I was thinking the same thing!
Grabbing, being sexually advancing after she says no, having to fight him back, throwing the dog, the ego? Oh yeah what a catch**NOT**
Biggest nope ever.
My tears flowed freely for this young girl. She was so emotionless most of the time and it just broke my heart. She looked absolutely beautiful though!
Am I literally the only one dumbfounded by that “grabbing tradition” WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THAT?????
There are lots of comments about it, so stop lying
@@kanyebreast6072 when I commented there weren’t any there were only people commenting on how pretty the girl is
Tbf if you're familiar with the show ND traveler traditions, it's nothing new. It's a terrible tradition, but it pops up in the show a lot
It's literally just sexual assault
There are a LOT of cultures that have similar traditions. There are some where the male literally grabs the women he thinks is cute from the side of the road and forces her to marry him.😳
I understand all cultures are different and have vastly different traditions but I have a morality line that just doesn’t like that stuff.
I just want to hug her and tell her it'll be ok, there's so much happening that even I feel overwhelmed! She's so young, just lost her Mum, has to plan by herself, and all those people staring and taking pictures, she's far braver than I would be in that situation
A wedding is supposed to be a joyous occasion. Why did none of it feel that way? The heartfelt moment was the sadness of her mother passing and the constant look of being lost/empty in Cheyenne’s eyes.
I felt the pain through my phone when the beautiful bride got emotional when her makeup was being done. I pray she finds peace & wish her the best of luck in her marriage.💖
This entire thing is a tragic trainwreck. 😥 I am so sorry that these girls were taught this is how life should be. This girl deserves so much better.
At 20 she’ll be “perfect” she already is! Being 16, she’s more mature than I ever was at that age. Also she’s lost her mother. My goodness. My condolences 💐 She’s absolutely beautiful on her big day. ❤
Cheyenne and Josie have always been the most memorable brides for me in the history of this show. Also, just to add in case no one has already said it in the comments, girls: VIRGINITY IS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT. NO AMOUNT OF SEXUAL ACTIVITY DEVALUES YOU OR YOUR EXISTENCE, SEXUAL ACTS DO NOT DETERMINE YOUR WORTH. Just a lil PSA in case someone needs to hear it today. ❤️
You’re right, a person’s Virginity is not society’s business but It’s NOT a social construct. It’s something you can NOT get back and CAN devalue your worth in certain communities. It is what it is.
@@CJ-jy4vd you’re right. I sorry. I should have been more specific! TO ANY PERSON WITH A VAGINA ON THIS EARTH, “VIRGINITY” IS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT CREATED BY MEN WHO DIDNT WANT THEIR WIVES TO REALISE HOW SMALL THEIR PENISES ARE, HOW POOR THEIR SEXUAL PERFORMANCE IS, AND TO MAINTAIN THEIR PRECIOUS, FRAGILE EGOS FROM HAVING TO IMAGINE YOU WERE EVER PENETRATED BY ANYTHING OTHER THAN THEM. THIS STATEMENT APPLIES TO ALL HUMANS WITH VAGINAS, IN ANY CULTURE, IN ANY COUNTRY, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY WILL TRY TO INDOCTRINATE INTO YOU. YOU ARE A WHOLE PERSON, AND NO MAN’S PENIS CAN CHANGE OR TAKE AWAY FROM OR DEVALUE YOU, PLEASE DO NOT LISTEN TO ASSHOLES ON THE INTERNET WHO SAY OTHERWISE!!! There we go, that should make things a little more clearly defined for future readers. I really wouldn’t want young ppl to end up….you know. Like you.
@@Miss_Camel If virginity is a construct and has no importance -- would you date or have sex with a man who is a virgin (has never had sex)?
@@razmiddle9410 I’ve dated several. But since you don’t think sexuality is anyones’s business, I’m not sure why you’re asking. And unless you are a teen girl whose parents are teaching them that boys won’t want them if they’re not virgins, my message wasn’t targeted for you.
If sexual activity did not devalue your sexual worth then men wouldn’t care if you are a hoe and there would be no worth put on virginity, but both are absolutely not the case.
M’en value virginity, and any sane man doesn’t want a woman with a rich sexual past. You can stomp your feet about it all you want, these are facts.
I'm shocked that she doesn't see what his behavior will be like. Behavior with a dog, what kind of things he talks about. I think she agreed to marriage so quickly because she lost her mother and she needed love and a different life✨
She said they're taught that they're to marry their first "boyfriend," and that thing was her first. When one is raised with strongly imprinted beliefs, it's nearly impossible to eradicate them and the "traditions" just go on and on and on.....
She’s the boss now ! He will do nothing to upset or hurt her !! You people need to know this culture! You all got it so wrong about him 😡😡😡
She’s 16 and he had visions of grandeur. It’s clear his behaviors are learned from others, as are the things he said. I do think he’s a good person and hopefully their love has evolved since.
@@annedalton289 because animal abuse is just a cultural difference, right?
She doesn't have a choice. He "grabbed" her which means chooses her as a wife through that tradition. Girls don't have a say in this culture
I love how you can see the other people that have been on here in their relatives wedding. But the fact he says" I can mold her to how I want her to be" shows the respect they have for their partner.
Being sexual harassed is the best thing that ever happened? Really? Goes to show the suppression of women in this community. They think that is normal and ok, very sad. But all the best, she looks beautiful. Not fond of him though, anyone that can just abuse an animal like that isn’t a safe person to be with.
@Nonaya Bidness agreed. It’s so awful to watch
@@mchanel950 he was imprisoned for 3 years in 2018 for robbing a woman and threatening to kidnap her child and for also being a member of moped bike robber gang....he was released from prison in 2021...They have four kids now.
What a lovely gesture taking the bouquet straight to her moms’ gravesite. ❤️
Now , 13 years later . They're going strong . Happily in love with beautiful 4 kids ! He must have a great job due to their lavish lifestyle. They truly grew up together it's actually beautiful they are actually happy and proving everyone wrong that doubted them due to aspects shown on this show
The men usually doTarmacing.??
Is he out of prison?
It was a no for me when he said it would be funny if one of the dogs got run over.
Then when he threw the dog in the lake!! I was disgusted
@@jazminfeliz4008 omg yes. I actually typed this before that part happened so yeah, when I saw that all I could do was smh.
She has the most beautiful eyes! I really think she deserves much better
What a wonderful thing to do, placing the bouquet on her Mom's grave! Absolutely the most beautiful show of respect 🙌 👏 ❤
My own daughter is twenty-five and is focused on developing her career. I raised her as a sole-parent to be independent, strong and gave her lessons in what red flags to watch out for. She is shrewd.
If only Cheyanne had a chance to have a wider choice. I believe she would do so much better. Poor girl.
@astrid garcia wasn’t needed, Single parents are strong and deserve more. That was rude of you tbh and you never know they might not even be single now.
@astrid garcia no, you dont always get to pick the man you want. you are arrogant, this is taught in schools these days. people can threaten you with money, physical harm, mental harm can make you feel like you have to stay otherwise theyll hurt themselves, etc etc. and sometimes people show their true selves after marriage. dont you dare ever blame a woman or man for ending up in a violent relationship. grow up
@astrid garcia but also some people actually enjoy being single :) not everyone is like you
@astrid garcia their partner could have died??? You are clearly being a bitch and nothing else. Maybe do something better with your life.
Same with your daughter. She didn’t have a choice either since you groomed her how you want her to be.
Such a beautiful bride! I love the sparkly tennis shoes she wore, casual elegance and comfort! The dress is my fave of all the gypsy brides I've seen so far, it's not tacky or a gawd awful color. Her mum I'm sure was there in spirit. Sad she didn't have her mum there for her special day.
I feel so bad for Cheyanne, she clearly loved her mom so much, and to not have her there on her wedding day just hurts to see.
“I’m gonna mould her how I want her to be by the time she’s 20”- this is such a red flag abuser sign I feel scared for her :/
Except......this is part of their culture. So, it's easy to judge and say "red flags" because you and I arent part of thos particular culture.
@@foffndy666 Still doesn't mean it isn't wrong, which it is. The guy's a complete scumbag.
The fact that it’s their culture doesn’t make it okay!
Wow their relationship is so toxic its disgusting, she justified him basically attempting to sexually assault her because ol well he wants to marry me so its fine 🤦🏻♀️ Then he gets quoted saying he gets to fix/mood her to be perfectly what he wants her to be thats just sick 🤢
Grabbing is their culture that’s why she didn’t hold it against him personally
@@femdivinemind7777 doesn’t make it right
@@femdivinemind7777 like I said in another one of your comments, it doesn't make it any less disgusting.
@Nonaya Bidness girl shut up I didn’t excuse fuck all
@@femdivinemind7777 imagine being a woman and supporting rape culture. You're disappointing
What a beautiful human (inside and out) Cheyenne is. Incredibly mature and special. I wish her the best.
Poor kid, loses her Mom and then gets married at 16 to an ex-con animal abuser…..
Cheyenne is the most beautiful bride! She is so such a strong young lady! It broke my heart when she try so hard to stay strong but tears flow down.
this is such a pretty wedding tbh its the prettiest gypsy wedding iv seen and iv seen alot of these episodes
And she did it herself 🙏
If he treats you the way he treats animals your in for a world of hurt. Also if anyone EVER treated any of my animals like that they would be out the door sooner then they could say “wait!”
@Carolyn Elsner … 👍🇨🇦
She was trying to be so much braver than her years , trying hard not to cry when we 1st saw her come out in her wedding dress, I nearly cried with her !
that ending sent a chill down my spine, this girl a hostage
Yeah, the minute he THREW THE POOR DOG, I would have been gone. Let's hope the kids never piss him off!
This episode hit pretty close to home. I lost my mom at 23 to brain cancer. I miss her everyday but I don’t even know how I could cope with it being a teenager. Poor thing. She seems quite sweet and polite, especially to the people as she is meeting with different businesses to order thing for her wedding. It seems a bit rare compared to the majority of the girls on the shoes. Maybe it’s the self absorbed, stuck up type that want to be on the show. I hope most girls are like Cheyenne.
Whenever I see her crying, the mum-instincts in me make me wish I could comfort her. The poor thing. They’re so young but of course I wish them well.
i'm not a mum and i have that instinct too. it's just a normal instinct for any compassionate human being not just mums.
The wedding industry must be booming there-She is a Beautiful Bride(so sad for her with her Moms passing-my deepest condolences,it’t not the same but her Mom is looking down on her with so much love,support,pride,may she Rest In Peace 💫🙏💔👼🦋🕊
She’s a cool girl tough for someone her age to go through that and still do everything on her own. God bless them
she’s so beautiful, she deserves so much better
Her husband was arrested awhile back for attempted robbery and the neighbour was Amanda Holden who caught them … not sure of all the details
I'm not surprised.
Classy bunch, aren't they? *rolling eyes*
I feel Cheyenne. I was 15 when my moms health turned for the worst. I had to step in her shoes to take care of everything including learning how to measure her insulin because she had a bad stroke and couldn't do it. My husband knew when we married I be taking care of two houses. I did all the way up until God called her home in 2009. It's been 13 years and it still hurts. Cheyenne it will get easier in time to deal with your moms death. She is always with you sweetie and would be proud of you. I pray you have a happy long and blessed marriage
I’m so sorry for your loss 🙏 She is in a better place and she was very lucky to have such an amazing daughter to help her get through those days more comfortably! ❤️ God bless you and your family!
11 years for me and honestly I don’t know when it’s going to stop. I pray for you sweetie stay blessed
@@sheeneasheen I have my moments. In time you heal. I know when God calls me home, I get to see her again.
I’m sorry for your loss. You’re a strong person
My 15 year old can’t organize her book bag. Props to her for handling grieving and her wedding at such a young age. She’s a lovely girl.
Those little babies jumping and giggling was adorable!
Truly! I smiled so wide my cheeks hurt when that happened. Unfortunately that was the only part of this episode that didn’t piss me off or make my heart ache.
When she cried when she came out of the bedroom in her beautiful dress and looking so stunning, my heart just broke for her. Her thoughts were of her Mum. This gorgeous and well spoken girl is going to have one hell of a life with that little shit.....The car not turning up was a sign from her Mum I think, poor girl what an absolute mistake she made.....
No, it was not a "sign from her mother," it was a miscommunication between the limo service and the girl, that's all!!!!!
@@jb6712Filthy atheist
These kids deserve so much better. The girls should be treated like fellow human beings. The boys shouldn't be taught to essentially be immature children.
I'm glad I see a few women who are still single and want better for themselves and to find someone who will treat them well.
ALSO.
About grabbing: "It looks bad but it ain't. Boy looks like he's hurting the girl. Girl wants that."
Girl at end of video: "No I really don't want to do this, no. Please let go of me!"
That is assault. That is not courtship.
He’s a nasty piece of work, I worked at the prison he was in.
Some other members of his family aren’t much better either, mainly the 2 sisters beating up a pregnant woman.
I hope this girl wasn’t a victim of his violence
Yep, whole family is dreadful
Whilst that may be true, aren't you supposed to keep things like that confidential? I find that also to be an unattractive trait...js....
@@tamielizabethallaway2413 I have not broken any areas regarding confidentiality. It’s in the public domain that he was arrested and later jailed. I did not name the prison (that is also in the public domain).
I haven’t used my name, so all in all I do not see where I have broken a confidence
@@tamielizabethallaway2413 I got bored reading your comment/essay after a while. I was not “giving inside information” away and nor was I “bragging about meeting”.You don’t know me, you don’t know what I do, so you can’t call me untrustworthy. Yet again, I did not name my place of employment or my role in said employment.
My comment has nothing to do with the programme he appeared on. Also it’s a bit of an update for people who think he’s some catch, but even without him being in a HMP establishment, his cruelty can be seen when he throws her dog in the river
@@vc23 Quite!!! He makes my skin crawl.
They met as Josie and Swanley’s wedding, I just watched that episode. I didn’t think a couple could get worse than those two….. but here we are
I firmly believe that because that was filmed, it would have dishonoured her if she hadn’t married him. I think she went along with this because she had to. She didn’t look like she actually wanted to be there at all and her husband is a complete POS who’s in and out of jail
I remember that episode. I remember seeing these girls get grabbed and fighting to be let go but the boys don't let them go and even pull them by their hair. I remember seeing her and him it's Just disgusting. Like how can parents allow this to happen to their young daughters
It's really cool to see different cultures, however I can't imagine how life would be if I married my first ever boyfriend, and getting engaged without even living together for a small period of time
My mother passed away when I was 15..though I got married a little later…but I missed her every moment of that day..now i am mom of 4 kids n I still miss her..I can feel her pain..
sorry for your loss ❤
Such a beautiful soul.... not trying to be THAT feminist, but this guy really makes me feel weird. I know grabbing and whatnot is their tradition, but he doesn't seem to know her worth or just chooses not to recognize it. MOLDING someone? Like, okay... am I crazy or do y'all see it?
You’re not alone I felt really weird about that
Your not crazy. Lots of us see it
@@cindysemblante4411 he served three years in prison from 2018-21 for robbing a woman and threatening to kidnap her child...he was part of a citywide violent moped bike robber gang.
But they are still together and have 4 children.
Awe I loved how she went to see her mom right afterwards 😭 💓 💗
I remember her from that grabbing episode. I was surprised to see her again
I like how people try to use culture to justify disgusting and dangerous behavior. Doesn't make it right just because it's tradition.
The way the guy said I want to mold her into somthing I want her to be gave a chills! Like no man needs to be that controling!
If John doesn't grow out of his need to hurt or scare her dogs she is in for a rude awakening. Cheyenne is naturally classy and obviously has a deep emotional intelligence. She is a beautiful bride and John is very handsome I just hope that they can evolve into something that's meaningful for both of them.
When he said the part about her not having her mother there and how difficult it must be, along with leaving a bouquet after they are married at her graveside was a turning point for me.
5 minutes before he said that he would mould her into the woman he would want. Believe me no mother wants that for their daughters.
Yeah, but he turned out to be a criminal, just as he first seemed he would.
People are never one dimensional. He seems to genuinely care about her even if he is a creep.
@@ThisisabunnyThat was all just for the camera. He's a thug.
Anyone did that to my dog it would be over lmao. Done.
I'd be throwing him like that. Even if I was a random person witnessing that, and I'm not even a dog person.
@@IOU1080 LOL true.
Love when people say “it’s fractured but it’s not broken” they literally mean the same thing
That poor innocent soul... That dog didn't deserve that.
I don’t say it wa the nicest thing to do but there wa no harm done dogs can swim and he was clearly unbothered
I couldn’t imagine leaving my mom at 15. I was 23 & it literally about killed me.
Marsha, I’m so sorry you had to lose your mum so young. I lost my dad to cancer at 39 and I felt/feel robbed. I’m 48 now and can’t even fathom losing my mum anytime soon. She’s not just my mum but my best friend. Yours is still with you, watching over you and guiding you. All you need to do is look over your left shoulder and she’ll be there. This may sound strange but dimes are the strongest evidence that an angel (your mum in this case) is near/with you. Finding them is tell. My mum, sister and I have been finding them all over the place in our homes almost daily for the last 10 years since he passed, in places they shouldn’t be, like in the fridge for example. I once set my iPad down on the couch to go with my husband to our smoking closet and when I returned to the living room there was a dime stuck to the screen of my iPad. Feathers are another way that your mum tells you that she’s been there or is there at that moment.
I got to say she was the most beautiful bride I've seen on here. Her dress and all was perfect!
She could do so much better. Such a beautiful girl
Three minutes in and there's so many things wrong with this dude.
The baby pulling the flowers apart is the cutest. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Okay yes, but also the little girls jumping up and down in their little tutu dresses
I think this is honestly the sweetest wedding I've seen on this show
I'm sorry now but she is perfect how she is. Him saying he will mould her the way he wants her. NO John maybe look at yourself and your own actions, it's you who needs to change.. and the way you treated that poor dog
My heart goes out for her that her momma isn’t there. But she was there in spirit. God Bless You Both. 🙏🏻
She is the most gorgeous gypsy bride I have ever seen ! 🥰😍🥺✨
Proper class she is.
One of the most beautiful gypsy brides 💕 I hope she’s happy where ever she is
I do enjoy this being a longer episode 💜
No other community is bashed as much as travellers are. I am so pleased this couple are still together and doing great.
There’s so many red flags coming off of her groom it’s terrifying. The things he’s comfortable doing while being filmed makes me wonder what he’ll do off camera. I hope she is is doing okay.