Getting my new CNC DIALED! // Vacuum Table Workholding & T-Track Fixture Table
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ต.ค. 2020
- Learn how to add a DIY vacuum workholding table and a t-track fixture table to an Avid 4x8 CNC router! These two spoilboard options give me tons of flexibility for clamping material to my CNC and should make clamping and cutting parts on the CNC a breeze.
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🛠 Tools Used On The Vacuum Table and T-Track Table Build (affiliate):
🤖 AVID CNC PRO4896 4' x 8' CNC Router Kit : bit.ly/AVIDPRO4896
Black Box Hurricane Vacuum Pump : bit.ly/BlackBoxHurricane
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Vectric Aspire : bit.ly/VectricAspire
🛠 Materials Used On The Vacuum Table and T-Track Table Build (affiliate):
🔹 Rockler Universal T-Track : www.rockler.com/universal-t-t...
🔹 Rockler #6 Screws : www.rockler.com/square-x-driv...
🔹 Peel and Stick Edge Banding : www.rockler.com/white-pvc-15-...
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I sooo want to add one of these to my shop! Thanks for letting us enjoy yours.
It's amazing the everyone with a CNC seems to go through the same evolutionary process of trying to come up with the perfect clamping/spoil board solution. We are on iteration 4 or 5 at this point having initially tried the same things you are doing :)
What methods do you like the most?
Awesome set up brother! Time to see some killer CNC projects.
I really enjoyed seeing this go together and the mystery of the vacuum pump through the mdf!
Fantastic build Johnny. That machine is a beast.
7:52 that slide was sooooo satisfying.
I think you just sold me on getting an avid cnc. The vacuum hold down is a game changer.
great video + presentation + explanation! well done mate! thanks for sharing!
It's always funny how machines like this turn into projects. The first two months of owning a 3D printer I spent printing more parts for the 3D printer. XD
First of all. F%$K YES. first video I have seen that is quick - doesn't bull%&T and focuses on sharing knowledge - secondly thank you! I hope we can someday make vids that share like this too - we've modded our avid and really happy with the result. Need to make a video too!
You can put some t nuts into your melamine vacuum zone piece and then create a file for your CNC to cut out recessed mounting holes that match the t nuts. This allows for repeatable mounting for your spoil board and it saves your melamine piece from multiple screw holes in it over time.
Good idea!
Glad you got a CNC, I love my AvidCNC.
Damn that’s cool. Congrats on an awesome setup!
Thanks man! Your CNC setup is pretty damn sweet too.
Pretty interesting process, dude! Great work! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thats incredible. Nice job.
Daaaaaammmmn Son... Nice setup... The possibilities with the CNC are endless..
Yes they are! Can't wait to really get some use out of it once it comes time to build all of the cabinetry for the house I'm building at the moment.
Fantastic Video! Thanks for sharing
Just found this. DANG BUBBA!!!! Very Very nice setup!!!!
One thing we do at our shop to help suction through the MDF is seal the sides with some spray paint.
Cool setup!
Nice setup !
Very cool and thanks for the video!!!
love your videos man
awesome video... informative and well done.
Great job on the vacuum setup! This video helped me a bunch! Would you mind sharing your feed and speeds that you used for the vacuum table?
Buying a couple tables, soon. Thanks for providing useful information. Any regrets or things you'd configure differently, now that you've used it for a while? I'll be running both router and plasma. Starting a new shop in Westchester, NY.
Great project
Bind the edges of the mdf spoil board, too. It'll really help focus the vacuum to a quadrant
it's faster and easier to put 2 coats of shellac on the edges of the MDF
How loud is the vacuum. I know you'll have dust collection/CNC running at the same time, I was just curious on its own as well as with everything running altogether.
I have a large CNC router with a vacuum system. I didn’t see if you used gasketing in the plenum. It makes a big difference. I split my spoilboard so I can slide the front section onto the back and then use gaskets right on the plenum for huge holding power when doing surface work or engraving.
Do you have a diagram that can explain this more. I don't quite understand
this was great!
Curious did you glue all of the pvc fittings for the Hurricane?
Dude, Thats badass...
Oh man what a machine ! :D I want it soooo bad !
I got an x-carve. But its... limited i should say.
Good work man !
Okay now I'm thinking about this model over the Axiom.
For the drawer slide issue, couldn't you have routed out some material off each side of the drawer on the router table? or was it too much material?
I love it!
I will own one of these when my shop is built I promise
I would like to know what size spindle are you using I have the same cnc table from cnc router parts.
Hi. Any idea of the minimum negative vacuum pressure, needed for a simular vac-system?
Can you put t-track directly into the flow through MDF piece if you sealed the track groove? I realize the area where the track is would not have suction, but any other issues doing that?
Love the videos
Curious, what did the full setup set you back ? CNC DC VAC ? Cheers
to improve holding just lay clingfilm over the part and surrounding area.
Do you have the Cut2d files or CAD files for the board for download? What are the size of the squares and spacing between the squares?
Use nylon screws to hold down the spoil board. Never ruin a bit by hitting a screw. When you have to change the spoil board (and you will) they can just be cut out.
Great tip!
May I ask if you have the 4HP or the 8HP spindle mounted to the router?
When Jonny calls it bitsbits so many times, the company eventually just drops the & from their name. lol
Hey Johnny! What type of headphones have you been using in your videos?
beast of CNC??
What software did you use for the cabinet? Thanks
Could you tell me what software you use to design the cabinets?
Very cool.. what is the total approximate cost to setup like this?
Do you have a video or a site with what software you use for your CNC Workflow? CAD > CAM > Machining [I saw mach4 or mach3] [Does Aspire function as a CAD and CAM?]
For small or garage CNC setups would a Hurricane vacuum system cost too much in electricity to be worth the install?
Seems like that dust collector isn’t powerful enough? Have you seen the double sided dust boot?
Is there any way you would share your finished file for the routing on the plenum?
It sucks through the MDF? 🤯. That’s sick!
wouldn´t believe it if someone tell me that this is working
"Brady Vac". Been using it for years. It IS sick!
Been working with a Homag Vantage 12L for a few years now and it uses the same principle. Low quality mdf is best to use as it lets through more air. Nice about this industrial machine is the work area. About 3600x1700mm.;)
Is this simply relying on the porosity of the MDF? I was wondering the same question.
Hello, I'm getting ready to order a Avid machine. How do you like it? Do you feel the leg kit is stable enough? Thanks
Could you do a dean ml style guitar build sometime?
For a tad better vacuum, seal the side of your spoil board with the fast edge. There is a little bit if leakage thru the edge. Great video
Good tip, thanks!
@@craftedworkshop wood glue works too.
Also add a gasket between your vacuum grid and your spoilboard
@@nathwald That was what I had thought the square pattern was going to be used for. It is pretty much standard with metalworking machine vacuum fixture plates.
Bro, I have a question, which type of Stepper motor did you use for X and Y? Nema 34? I am also planning to make my own CNC. The size of the CNC will be aproximately the same with your CNC's. can I use Nema 23 (the strongest one with 112 length and 3 N.m). can this stepper motor handle it? please give your suggestion, thanks!
Why don't you use the powermatic cyclone dust extractor on the cnc machine
Q: Did you make or buy that Dust Shoe? Looks solid! Polycorbonate perhaps. Mine has a bit of give (made out of HDPE from the Avid Instructions). It works, but I like the appearance of yours... thus the query. Thanks for taking the time to reply (AND make these videos. MUCH APPRECIATED & Learned)
Do you not have to use rubber in your grid under your spoilboard?
Which cabinet design software were you using that allowed you to choose the drawer slides? And would you be willing to do a small video about it?
I’ll be going into it in my next video! I used Mozaik.
Would you mine sharing your post for mozaik? Its taking a long time to get mine.
Hey man do you have the file for the plenum board with the grid!
what CNC software do you use?
TIP! close the edges of the MDF with white wood glue. that way your spoilboard is going to have 40% more suction power.
What cabinet CAD software is that?
How much will this machine run full assembly.
I have the same 4x8 router and vacuum system. I think you're gonna find you don't want all those screws and inserts in your spoilboard. If you are using this table as often I would expect, you'll quickly tear up your spoilboard and lose vacuum power. You'll want to resurface it fairly regularly and all those screws will just become a pain in the butt. Just glue the lightweight MDF to the plenum board and when you want the t-track board, attach it with wood screws in the corners. I go 98% through my spoilboard and then just glue another one on top. Works great.
I was wondering if both of you plumbed with schedule 20 or 40?
does the glue hinder the suction from the vacuum when you glue the spoilboard to the plenum?
@@nitrousair No. Just glue completely around the edges and then in small spots scattered around the board. The air will pull right around it. Be sure and take a millimeter off the bottom side of the MDF that will attach to the plenum, then flip it, glue it and surface the other side completely.
How big is that vacuum pump you use?
What's the software you use?..cheers
i so want one !!!!!!!!
Really nice =)
Can you tell me wich vacuum did you use ??
Awesome! You mentioned you selected the Blum under mount slides in the software. Which cabinet software are you using? Or is that part of Aspire?
You can download Dynaplan that is a Blum software for building cabinets
Looks like he is using mozaik. Awesome software
Thanks for the video! I’m currently planning out my Cnc purchase. Are you running off of 3 phase or single phase? And if single phase, does the drop ~2hp drop in power still machine like a boss? I.e single pass cuts on 3/4” plywood with decent feed rates? Thanks!
Single pass cuts on 3/4 ply would be rough on any hobbyist/consumer grade CNC. I normally make 2 or 3 passes. Also helps make sure you have time to stop the machine if it looses a step and eats into a good part
what was the cost of the hurricane vacuum ?
Hi,what furniture software is it?
I love your videos, I am awaiting my Avid 4*9 cnc with ATC in about 4 weeks and want to do the vacuum table like you just did! Is there a reason you didn't just glue the MDF onto the plenum instead of screws? Just easier to replace when needed? Thanks for the videos
What atc spindle and system did you go with?
@@roeschdan I went with CNC Depot's S30. I should finally have it all up and running by end of the week
How do you predrill holes with a router? 🤯
Are you drilling your holes with the router bit, or changing out the router bit for a drill bit, and then running a separate drill program?
For the t-track table, I just used a standard router bit.
im waiting on final delivery of my 60"x60" pro from avid.
Nice!
"Rockler", "Rockler", "Rockler"- relentless product placement.
salut quel est la puissante de ta pompe a vide ? je voudrai faire une table a vide aussi ma table fais 1.5mx1.4m merci
Where do you get the canister filter? It is not on the supply list provided. 🙂
It comes with the Blackbox unit.
great to see woodworkers trusting computer aided machines
need to see inside the vacuum pump please.
How much did that machine set you back?
Well DOne!!
The vacuum working THROUGH the MDF?? Wow did not know that was possible!
Not only is this possible. It is how it is supposed to work.
She’s a beauty.
is it strong enough to double as a vacuum former? Would just need a heat box to mount above the table then to heat the plastic.
I did this with mine, I vacuum formed plastazote foam. I'm using two dust extractors for vacuum.
Aaaaaaaand now I want a CNC.
Sorry, can you supply the Vectric files?
how much did this entire setup cost? Avids website only has a price for the mechanical portion, everything else is broken out be separate parts
That is app cool.