WHITE STAINS ON VESSELS AFTER DISHWASHER CYCLE? Water hardness and salt settings in dishwasher
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- White residue on your utensils after washing in a dishwasher? Wondering how to get rid of white stains on vessels after washing using dishwasher? Is your dishwasher not washing properly and leaving stains? Do you have hard water in your area due to which dishwasher is not washing properly? Then your dishwasher salt / water softener setting is set incorrectly. In this video, we'll talk about why it is important to set the right hardness setting on your dishwasher and whether you need an external water softener or not. This will help you understand what the dishwasher hardness setting should be.
Use the concepts covered in this video and refer to your manual of your dishwasher (Bosch Dishwasher, LG Dishwasher, Voltas Beko Dishwasher, Faber Dishwasher, Siemens Dishwasher, Midea dishwasher, Elica Dishwasher etc) to determine what is the right setting for your dishwasher.
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⏳⏳ IN THIS VIDEO:
00:18 - How would you know if you have an issue?
00:34 - Why does this happen?
01:08 - Why is this important?
01:48 - How do I check the water hardness level?
02:41 - What should my softener setting be?
03:54 - What if the hardness level is more than what my dishwasher supports?
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Here's how you can set the salt setting in Faber dishwasher th-cam.com/video/PoL8et_cOho/w-d-xo.html - Saumya
Why am I getting dark patches in stainless steel utensils
Hai Sowmya. Very nice video. Able to sort out my problem with the help of your video. I was depressed for a month whether I have purchased a dish washer unnecessarily. But luckily your video helped me to say good bye to streaks and white residue on my vessels. Now completely happy with the results.
Hi Lalitha, that makes me super happy to hear 😊
Very informative video. Got some valuable points about salt formation and how to get rid of it.thank you. 👍
Hi Arup! Glad to know 😊thanks!
Sowmya Ma'am, I would like to impress upon the fact that, adjustment of the salt consumption is possible only in the program panel using Start/Pause button (as given in the Faber manual).Whereas your video at 3:35 shows the adjustment knob for the Rinse aid.
But anyways your videos have been so helpful and informative! Keep it up!!👍
Eeeks! Oh my gosh - I have been using the wrong lever all this time - this was what the installation person told me 🤦♀️ turns out it is for rinse aid which also has 1-6 ! thank you so much for pointing it to me Deepika - will go back and look at my setting now. Will see if I can modify the video to remove the incorrect display. Thanks again!
Thanks for sharing this with me Deepika. Since I could not change the video, I created a new one th-cam.com/video/PoL8et_cOho/w-d-xo.html
Very useful information 🙂🙂🙂
very comprehensive and useful video.
Thank you Atul sir!
Thank you❤❤❤...i was homding nack tl buy dishwasher(voltas beko) since om only person...but seeing detergents(finish and fortune) people xomplaint that it leaves white layer....now i can buy...btw how did u find finish detergent...it leaves any white cast ?
Initially I used the factory default settings of the rinseaid and salt for the dishwasher. Now the water in most parts of Navi Mumbai is soft. While I could not go to a testing lab, I resorted to using a TDS meter(borrowed from my mom) and a ph balance strip. So I checked using various online calculators and getting sound advice regarding the settings from an Indian TH-camr Bhuvana Adi(she has a lot of videos on dishwasher usage for Bosch, LG and Voltas Beko. I can suggest visiting her channel) plus lot of trial and error. I now set my settings(both rinseaid and salt) to minimum. Not only that (watching few American and European videos) I realised that my detergent powder consumption is slightly less than 1 tablespoon for main wash and 1 teaspoon for prewash. Apart from this, just two days ago I found out that not all stainless steel utensils are suitable for dishwasher. As my hard anodized tawa and pressure cooker got spoilt due to years of usage plus mistake of putting in dishwasher, I decided to get a stainless steel tawa (for chapati) and pressure cooker. I was surprised to see that Hawkins specifically state not to wash the SS tawa and pressure cooker in dishwasher. I thought you might like to know.
Hi Sreelakshmi, thanks for sharing! Yes its quite a bit of trial and error. Sometimes even the setting based on tds meter may be insufficient for your usage. If you have soft water in your area - that gives the best output. Unfortunately lot of places have significantly high TDS - which even the highest setting of dishwasher does not work - thereby needing an additional softener.
Interesting to hear about hawkins staring that. I will take a look at it!
@@TheGrapevineIndia true
After experimenting a lot with LG Dishwasher, i had long back suggested on Bhuvana Adi channel that normally utensils could be cleaned by using 6 to 7 grams of detergent. I had also shared my experience about drying, which requires Dishwasher to be opened for 5-8 minutes before closing again so that the stainless steel tub of dishwasher could utilise the retained heat for drying. Saumya Ji is doing wonderful job by looking the neglected sides of gadgets. Her videos on various gadgets are well studied and honest.
Dr Indhu, what is the salt setting in your machine?
Hey! I got it in your previous replies... Thanks 😊
Great!! :)
S di need a best series of softner system for dishwasher.salt water is main problem in my area.
Thank you
I have set the hardness level at H6 as the water is very hard in my locality ,but still I have the stains in the utensils .
So as you suggest I'll need an external water softener
Yeah if the level is more than 900ppm - which is what most dishwashers can handle, then you may need a softener
Hi. Bought a faber dishwasher 20 days ago. Got frustrated with the white stains. Hope your advice will solve my problem 🤞. Will update.
Hi Monideepa, don’t worry, dishwasher takes a bit of getting used to get the right formulation. Lately using this tablet has been helping quite a bit amzn.to/3Eb9fWV
Do people from india have a sense of humor? Always so scientific and serious....
😊 ofcourse, just not with serious topics. If you want some humor, I can ooint you to some humor channels 😊
Thanks for dropping by.
@@TheGrapevineIndia white stains from dishwasher is a very serious topic. I get it....
Thank you
Thanks!
Good job 👏
Thank you, Adhavan!
I am using LG Dishwasher for the last one month. The service was quite good. After completion of 30 cycles I ran the machine clean program as recommended in the manual with vinegar. The salt level also started blinking while the machine clean cycle was on this I refilled the salt. The first wash after refill of salt was okay but the 2nd wash was not good as there were white marks on the utensils and the surface of the utensils became rough as if some salt is layered on the utensils. I have not changed the salt settings or rinse aid setting . It is H3 & L3. The settings seem perfect for last 30 cycles but after refilling the salt I faced the issue. I am using Finish detergent with finish rinse aid and salt. Kindly advise future course of action. My water TDS is 400.
I have been using LG dishwasher with fortune salt, detergent and rise aid for about 5 months now in H4 and L2 settings and have been having good results. I changed to finish salt, detergent and rise aid last week and ran 4 cycles and all four cycles gave dishes with white stains. I even ran a cycle with vinegar and then a machine wash with vinegar, still the same result with white stains.
Hi Sudipta, not sure what went wrong after the cleaning process. I recommended - try to change your detergent and salt. Other option the seems to work for lot of people is opening the door of the dishwasher right after the wash cycle - this disallows the settling salt/detergent on the vessels.
@@TheGrapevineIndia I am facing another problem. Even after filling the salt, the salt icon doesn’t stop blinking. What may be the reason?
Thank you for the too a and advices which you had given .
But yesterday I found some detergent was left over in the detergent couch and the glasses next to the detergent couch got stained.
Pl help
Hi Jyoti, that could happen if there was a vessel obstructing the detergent compartment and the compartment could not open completely.
Can u pls make a video on external water softening systems,..iam highly in need of that as I use bosch 12 plate setting for 1400ppm water and i dont get a shiny output...
Hi Aish, that is quite high ppm. I have linked to a few in this video. Also here
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Awesome thank you
Great! Hope it clarified your question regarding the softener 😊
@@TheGrapevineIndia I have a Kent water softener now. The video was very useful thank you
Great, glad to be of help!
Hi Soumya, whenever I wash my steel kadai I see that it has spots not really spots, but looks different from inside as if it has gone through chemical action, all other vessels comes sparkling clean. I m using Bosch dishwasher.
Can u please suggest y could it be.
Hi Manuja, I do face that at times for some specific vessels only - specially ones that need intensive cleaning. I have not been able to decipher that yet, but since it is one or two vessels at max (if at all) - I just scrub out those white portions after wash. I'm still experimenting some settings on that - if I can figure it out, will let you know!
Can we mix up the brands and use it for eg: from starting i was using Bosch salt detergent and rinse aid but now I swapped to finish I have left one box of Bosch salt and I purchased new finish detergent and rinse aid so can we use like that
Yes, you can.
Hi saumya.. I have bought an ifb dishwasher recently and had it installed with the water softener even though our area has fairly soft water.. My doubt is, do i still need to add salt and rinse aid for washing the vessels? What happens if I don't use them for my washer?
Hi Sree Latha, are you using tablet? In that case you dont need both. If detergent, you need atleast rinse aid. My recommendation is - add salt and keep it at the min setting even if you use soft water to minimize damage to machine
@@TheGrapevineIndia Currently I am using the powder detergent for washing. Initially we have made all the settings accordingly as per the user manual.. Basically the hardness levels of the water is very less here, plus we have also attached a water softener device at the inlet hose of the dishwasher... Hence my doubt, if I use the powder for washing, should I still be needing salt and rinse aid..
Hi Sree Latha - pls do add salt at a minimum if you are using detergent. Rinse aid is required for better drying. You can keep both at minimum setting.
@@TheGrapevineIndia Great.. Thank you saumya ..
Thankyou
Hi Jaswinder, to the water inlet pipe.
Hi ma'am.. I have been using bosch sms46ki03i serie 4 dishwasher since 1 week.. its doing a great job for us.. we get Kaveri water at home.. I'm using finish all in one max tablets, 1 tablet for each wash.. we don't need to use dishwasher salt, rinseaid and dishwasher detergent if we use this tablet right.. this one tablet does all 3 jobs is what I had read.. but I saw one TH-cam video yesterday where they used salt , rinseaid and tablet.. I'm confused now.. please answer my query .. thank you..
Hi Megha, hello from a fellow Bangalorean 😊 it is not mandatory to use rinse aid and salt if you use a tablet and are getting good results. You can optionally use salt if you see hard water stains in your vessels after washing or optionally use rinse aid if vessels don’t dry/shine after wash. Hope this clarifies!
@@TheGrapevineIndia thanks for the reply maam.. I don't get hard water stains on the vessels.. but the vessels are not completely dry.. especially the top cutlery rack will have water droplets.. middle and lower rack is almost dry.. will try using rinseaid to solve this problem.. thanks for the suggestion ma'am.. I have watched so many of your videos before buying dishwasher.. 🙂
Yeah try the rinse aid then. Great that my videos helped with your decision 😊
Hi ma'am.. I have been using rinseaid since 4 days and my vessels are totally dry even in short cycles.. thanks for your suggestion.. 😀 now my doubt is can I continue using the machine without salt.. I don't get any white stains on the vessels..
Hi Megha- great to know that! I recommend you experiment with it. If you are not seeing white spots and are using tablet and dont have hard water in your area - you dont need salt. If and when you do start seeing that issue, you can consider using salt with a lower setting first.
Can we remove the top rack and start the cleaning process?? ( When we have larger vessels) or we have to use both the racks every single time?? Am asking this question for Voltas beko 8 place dishwasher...
Hi Haritha, since the Voltas beko has a spray arm on the top rack, it should not be removed as it could affect the cleaning performance.
Thanku 😊
I have been using dish water for the past 12 years. This Siemens basic model is infuse since 2012 till date. I didn’t have any problem. I recently had a problem by forming white coat on steel vessels. I tried 2 varieties of FIBISH products, one each of ASTONISH & CLEOX tablets. However, same white coat. I recently got installed a water softener device at tap to make sure the soft water is used. The salt compartment also full and I topped it up with FINISH salt. However, result is same. Lodged complaint with Siemens service centre. However, due to lockdown at Hyderabad, nobody will be able to come. Please explain how to change the hardness settings. I couldn’t see any such provision in my dish washer.
Hi Srinivas, you need a tds meter to check. You can also adjust the salt settings to the maximum level and see if it changes anything.
I m getting only one or two steel katori white/somky from the bottom...inside they got shiny clean (got the same Faber D/W) im putting them on the second tray right side ...wht could be the reason
Hi Nitin, there can be many - salt setting or the detergent / tablet you are using. If it is always happening on the same two katoris, it can also be the quality of the steel in the katori. Try adjusting the salt as described in this video. Which detergent/tablet are you using? I recently started using this amzn.to/3FL77Em Ultimate tablet and it has reduced the white significantly too.
Video on water softening systems, TDS more than 700 in vadodara
My all vessels come out clean only kadhaai has little white patches is there any problem with the kadhaai Or hard water problem I m using pure heavy steel kadhaai
Sometimes it is the type of vessel too. Give it a light scrub before/after if only specific vessels are impacted.
White foam left after cleaning process On utensils in IFB. Please suggest way to overcome this problem madam🙏🏻
Hi Latha - did you try the approaches I mentioned in this video? Have you checked the tds in your area?
Even am using ifb sx1 dishwasher ..set ur salt setting to L 6 and use rinseaid@ 4and less detergent..dont use ifb detergent. Its not cleaning efficiently,use finish detergent and use 2.01 hr programme and check..hope this help as I faced the same issue..now its working fine
Thanks for sharing Ushasri!
But how do you change the setting tho? Im lost
Saumya can u create a video on how to change this hardness settings on your on?
Hi Divya, yes, I'll create a short video on that soon.
Hi Divya - here is a quick video on how to change salt setting th-cam.com/video/PoL8et_cOho/w-d-xo.html
Hi, is it ok to let the drain outlet directly into the kitchen sink.
Hi yes, you can.
What will happen if greater amount of salt is used than required? Will it leave streaks?
Hi Amit, amount of salt used is as per the hardness level setting you have configured in your dishwasher. It only uses as much as required for that setting..
Is there any dish washer that uses cold water for wash or temp of water can be set by user
Hi Priya Yogesh! I believe the glass mode uses slightly lower temperature, but cannot be updated to adjust temperature.
How to increase the setting from H3 to H4 as you mentioned in the video?
Hi Nabarun, if you are using Faber - here are the instructions:
1. Press the Start/Pause button for more than 5 seconds to start the water softener set model within 60seconds after the appliance was switched on;
2. Press the Start/Pause button to select the proper set according to your local environment, the sets will change in the following sequence H1->H2->H3->H4->H5->H6;
3. Press the Power button to end the set up model.
Hi Nabarun - here is a quick demo you can use for salt setting th-cam.com/video/PoL8et_cOho/w-d-xo.html
@@TheGrapevineIndia thank you Soumya...I am using IFB...Similar setitngs as like Faber
Maam if we are using tablet so do we need to add salt in the salt department ?
Hi Ruchi - it would depend on the hardness level of water in your area. If quite hard, you will still need salt inspite of using tablet. You can try without it - and if the washing quality is not good, add some salt in.
@@TheGrapevineIndia ok thank you for your prompt reply
Is 1300 ppm what i want to do now
My Steel patra are coming white colour
Hi Manikanta - you probably need an external water softener. Best to also clarify with your service center before buying one.
Hi Manikanta - you probably need an external water softener. Best to also clarify with your service center before buying one.
Can you please make a video on water softeners in India?
Coming soon.
Do we need to add salt even if we use water softener machine
Hi Archana, depends on what the hardness is after softening. Also depends on if you are using a tablet or detergent. So if mmol/l (hardness indicator) after softening falls within the range as well as you are using tablet - you may not need it.
@@TheGrapevineIndia thanks Soumya for clarifying the doubts🙏🙏
Is there any dish washing bar soap which serves purpose of salt
No, Kalpita
Does IFB Neptune VX has water softener settings
Hi Jaswinder, all dishwashers have a water softener that can soften upto 900ppm. Beyond that- you may need an external softener in addition.
After cleaning, the utensils looks like a coat of stratch is on it. Not that clean like v do v hand madam. Please clarify. Ifb vx dishwasher.
Hi Latha, this could be due to incorrect setting of salt, very hard water or detergent. I recommend you either try out adjusting those as mentioned in the video OR call your IFB service center and they may give you a solution.
Very tough to understand its like im setting in front my java script class u know all these think try to explain in simple and short form madam but over all i understood
Thanks for sharing Vishwa. What was confusing to understand? Can you share so we can improve for the future?
Please do water softener review
Hi Vignesh, sure will plan for that.
Vanakkam Mam
After washing vessels, its changed yellow in color.
Hi Shanmugham, not heard of this problem before. Consider checking with technician.
😅😅😅 another fear unlocked.. Too much for bachelors. Nothing is hassle free in this world.
Mam please help me I purchased Faber dishwasher and it is not cleaning white stain in all the utensils.
What should I do know
Hi Saurabh, have you followed all the tips mentioned in this video?
@@TheGrapevineIndia yes today I have increased rins number and water hardness to H5
Hi Saurabh, have you checked the water hardness level as well?
I have ordered tds meter let's check first what is the water hardness
We have borewell water, should we buy dishwasher or not?
Why am I getting dark patches in stainless steel utensils after dishwashing
Hi Suganya, please check the salt levels. Are you seeing this in all vessels or specific ones?
What’s your dishwasher rinse aid setting
Hi Abushek Akbar! Set at the minimum
How to set rinse setting in ifb dishwasher
Hi Aparna - you can find it here on the IFB page. th-cam.com/video/lg-vwbbQCVM/w-d-xo.html
What causes white stains on utensils suddenly in 1 wash, after using the dishwasher for months, with no such problem earlier?
Definitely the hardness has not suddenly changed middle of the day ( since morning load came out normally clean, with no white residue)....so that couldn't be the reason. Rinse aid, salt both are full.
Maybe limescaling/mineral deposit? But why suddenly?
Hi Maya, perhaps scaling. Try descaling the dishwasher and a vinegar wash cycle.
@@TheGrapevineIndia Yes...it worked with Vinegar 😊
Yay!
@@TheGrapevineIndia 😁
White stains may appear due to (1) change in detergent. (2) using Extra Dry option of LG, causing fast evaporation of water, leaving white stains. (3) washing aluminium utensils in long or hot cycles. Possible Solutions (A) use lesser detergent (B) add little vinegar at the beginning. (C) if using Aluminium utensils, use 38 minutes or 48 minute cycle, with 6 grams of detergent. (D) use longer cycles.
Not helpful
My lg dishwasher has no such meter settings.
Hi Smita, which setting are you looking for? All dishwashers have the hardness level setting and rinse aid settings.
Not a good video,,,,bcz there is no picture of the dish which are you talking about,,,,,, some pics must be include in the video to reposition our imagination about the question answer
Hi, thanks for the feedback, have incorporated this in future videos.
@@TheGrapevineIndia oky,,, Thank you so much🥰🥰🥰
LG IS NOT AT GOOD