I love this terrible detective. He bumbled into the mansion, fixed a random piece of chemical equipment out of pure altruism, found a single piece of evidence, assumed he'd cracked the case, and left promptly because "it would be loitering for me to stay inside too long". He's perfectly lawful, but he's criminally stupid.
I absolutely adore the concept of a character who sucks so much at being a detective that he becomes one of the world's most lethal assassins by pure accident
That sounds hilarious I would love a movie or show with that concept, like he is hunting himself but has no clue, miraculously accidentally killing many in his wake by pure coincidence (like helping a killer) or directly (like giving someone who allergic to peanuts a pb&j)
The best part is, if the real detective comes in after this, he’ll have two dead bodies to investigate, and he’ll surely convict the real killer, and let both you and the butler off scot free.
@@TheFrenchmanCooks Yes, but in the context of this video, we're assuming 47 put in the work to become a legitimate detective before coming to the manor. So there was no impersonation being done.
@@TheFrenchmanCooksit's not all that impossible for him to go through that process legally, is it? Maybe he was a legal investigator before his current arrangements and his old license is still valid which makes him happen to be the right person for the job
That's impressive. You managed to find a way to kill the target with your own hands being clean; no conspiracy to commit murder, no setting up a booby trap, your involvement in the murder was pure "happenstance".
@@Lunaraiabut I think he said it would require him to pick up illegal evidence And maybe the old lady wouldn't have given him the file he needed, which was the only way to get it without stealing it (just assuming, I've never played this game)
@@chaisekarateka5254 the scene is almost identical, only difference is the fact she asks to be alone after the case is cleared, so no one will stop her from taking the jump from her balcony.
@@Lunaraia Actually, that happens if you lie to her and say that her brother killed himself. Which is being intentionally dishonest. Also, you need to pick up the cane illegally to do this.
This is a brilliant and utterly terrifying idea of an omnipotent assassin. The assassin is able to see the intentions of characters around him and the future. He can kill anyone he wants without breaking the law or directly encouraging them. All he needs to do is slightly tweak fate and let it play out on its own.
That’s not even an assassin anymore that’s God doing a little trolling from the perspective of an Human Avatar instead of looking down and doing it from Heaven
I do reckon the term for this is omniscient, because there was a lot he was unable to do due to the no crime committed rule
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Funnily enough, I know of two games that work like that, but instead of an assassin, the goal is the opposite, you need to stop people from dying. In Ghost Trick, you're a ghost that can rewind time 4 minutes before someone dies and, by only possessing objects, needs to stop people from dying. The game Sexy Brutale works a bit similar, you're not a ghost, but your interactions are also very limited.
There is actually something kind of like this in one Henri Poirot novel where (obviously spoilers for the whole novel) the murderer isn't actually omniscient but they very subtly and indirectly manipulate people into commiting murder. It's remarked that it's the perfect crime as they can't actually be prosecuted. They make seemingly innocuous comments to make others commit murder. Poirot solves this by outright killing them when he figures out (thus indirectly also making him a murderer). It's the last novel in the series under the name "Curtain: Poirot's Last Case".
Diana: "47, what are you doing? Why are you leaving the property?" 47: "My job here is done." Diana: "You got the file, yes, but what of Alexa? You were supposed to... Wait. What? Our surveillance shows that somehow Alexa dropped dead in her living room, just ten seconds ago. How did you do that?" 47: "I have no idea."
Fun fact! The detective guy is actually at where he spawns normally if you use the detective disguise start so it is confirmed that 47 didn’t steal his clothes! Edit: what have I wrought upon this land?
I do not think 47 ever uses the detective’s name so he could claim that they all just assumed it was him, anyway he basically tells Alexa that he’s 47 by asking for the case file therefore they know 47 isn’t him
@@Zpixi09 Well, the investigators might still find it sus that the actual detective, Phineas Whitmer, was invited and 47 not. From their perspective, this someone completely random other detective just happened to come and waltz in at the exact same day and never introduced himself as someone else or corrected anybody when referred to as this actually invited detective. I suspect the "not correcting" part might still lead to a sentence, as you're actively making others think you're someone you're not.
I've played this game for hours and never realized that there's such a complicated way for killing...I mean allowing Carlisle to die without even touching her.
I was going to grumble about the use of a glitch to get into the locked areas, but knowing that you should in-universe be allowed to just ask for access into those rooms as part of your investigation not only makes sense but is something of an oversight from the developer's standpoint. This is wonderful. Well done.
yeah its weird they made the whole path of being a detective and didn't have a way to get into the rooms without being found suspicious if somebody saw you
Ever had something broken, wallow in self pity, turn it on as a last resort, and it's working for some strange bizarre reason? You don't ask when you're given a Mulligan like that!
@@magi_stricide"OH NO, MY WHOLE PLAN IS RUINED BECAUSE MY MACHINE ISN'T WORKING" *tightens a screw* "IT'S A MIRACLE" .... she probably wasn't too handy
I love the idea of 47 in trial and the conversation going: "So, you're a contract killer" "Yup" "And you were hired to kill her?" "Yup" "But you didnt kill her" "Nope" "And you didnt even commit a single crime" "Nope" "What are you?!" "Innocent"
@@destinymontez6170 That's not what "hired" means. If he had been under duress, he can either testify to that or not. If not, the court can only work with the facts in evidence.
Technically 47 wasn't hired to kill Alexa. No agency was paying him to kill her unless subject 6 paid him to kill the partners. Is far as I'm aware it was a favour for a friend.
Alternatively, you could have said that her brother committed suicide, this would cause her to not only hand the file over, but she even later kills herself FOR YOU. meaning you can complete this entire level and legitimately have no personal impact on her death whatsoever
From what I remember though there is no way to access the areas with the necessary evidence for that kill without picking up the cane, which is for some reason illegal even though iirc the cane itself isn't illegal to have.
@@Midnight-wh2bs I actually think you can get it without breaking the rules. you need access to the daughters room and find the hidden panel that leads to the hidden room. i would have to check
@@hamchurger4566 There are some you can access without it, but the one required to get her to off herself is hidden behind one that can only be accessed with the cane.
I actually love how dedicated people are to take a game that ASKS you to behave in a certain way and to try and find a way to beat it by doing the exact opposite. It's funny that the game even allows this.
you do technically commit impersonation, but in the UK it's only illegal to impersonate someone in order to defraud money or personal gain. Simply telling people you're someone who you aren't (as long as it's a normal citizen and you're not impersonating a government worker like a cop or lawyer) isn't actually a crime on its own.
Also, I suspect UK law isn't that simple. An identity thief can absolutely ruin the lives of others. Think of somebody ruining someone else's reputation, causing various rea-life problems to the victim. Nay, I have hard time believing those would be the only instances where impersonation would be illegal in the UK.
@@contradrian8430laws are rarely simple, but surely in that case, it's not the impersonation that's illegal but the besmirching (feels like some extension of slander). It would be just as illegal if you damaged someone's reputation and caused them real-life problems without impersonating anyone.
while 47 is technically an accomplice to murder, he would be let free as he (in this scenario) had no idea that it fixing a machine could have such a domino effect, absolving him of any charges.
Even that is a stretch. It’s a distillery, probably the rarest object used for a murder. Is the person that made the glass she drank out of an accomplice too? What about the gardener that grew the plant that was brewed into the poison? Jail is filling up quick!
If 47 left the assassin business and became a PI he'd be excellent at his job particularly in the case of homicides since he'd know exactly what to look for and who to question. That'd make a cool what if story, especially if one of his cases had him chasing another assassin from the agency.
I feel there should be more levels where this is possible. There should be levels for self-defense, and using NPCs to follow you( it's the NPC's fault to push your target into a meat grinder or something).
There are several where the NPCs will bump off your targets for you, but most of them require you doing something illegal to find something to motivate them to kill.
theres 18 levels in the game and you could probably do it in 10ish levels maybe if you get very loosey-goosey with the rules like "how was i supposed to know that red barrel had oil in it and the guy would smoke on it" levels of moving the goal posts
It’s very difficult because using real world laws even you “accidentally”killing someone is manslaughter. Most “no kill” play throughs involve someone essentially luring the target into a booby trap which is 1st degree murder. They’re just adding a bunch of processes between them and the murder as if that absolves them of wrongdoing somehow. There is a level where you can have two NPCs fight and one pushes the target off a balcony.
The exclaimation points dont make something illegal, it just means theyre suspicious. its not illegal to pick up a wet floor sign or hit a chair button.
About the real detective: if you go to the front gate at the start of the level, you'll see him just chilling there, alive and well. So yes, 47 did indeed legally work his way to become the PI for just one mission 👌
In Paris there is one enforcer guard in the guest lounge that becomes suspicious even if you don't do anything illegal. If you let him shoot you and then knock him out, that should technically count as self-defense in court, right? The Crows in Mumbai are also guards who attack you first
Depends on how the ones in Mumbai attack you. If the do nothing more than holding you to prevent entering, you have no legal ground to hurt them. If they are shooting you, even then it depends on the circumstances.
It's not a poison machine, it's a distillery. Distilleries are not illegal, they're used for many legal purposes. Many people use distilleries to create clean drinking water.
Fun fact: trespass is not a litigatable crime in England! If you are found somewhere you shouldn't be, unless there is reason to think you were there to commit another crime (say stealing or vandalism or, of course, assassination), you are just moved on when apprehended.
It's similar in the US, though you could get a misdemeanor charge for trespassing and if you entered a building it could be breaking and entering. However, when I worked juvenile detention we detained a couple kids that got a burglary charge, because while they didn't steal anything from someone's garage, they admitted that they entered illegally with the intention of taking something, they just didn't find anything they wanted and they left. The admission of intent to steal increases the charge from misdemeanor trespassing or B&E to felony burglary.
The Mansion Master Key is in the Butlers room. You can talk into getting access to the room, grab the key and proceed to unlock every door without it being labelled as illegal
Yeah, impersonating a police officer, destroying evidence at a crime scene, actually trespassing if you were impersonating an officer. And much more, don't think you could do this with actual laws.
@doommarauder3532 at the start he said that he assumed that 47 worked his way up, and cause he is a detective, he can mess with the crime scenes to figure it out
"how long can i keep the targets alive" that would be funny, imagine a multiplayer hitman game where he has to keep them alive that would be awesome i would watch that video if there was one, it would be interesting.@@drmarioprojectm1510
This run only begs the question: did you drop the wrench used to repair the destillation kit before exiting the mission? Cause that right there is theft! 😂😜
2:22 I'm not sure if that still makes sense with the rest of the mission. When presenting the conclusion of the investigation to Alexa Carlisle, she still refers to the player as "Mr Whitmer", even in the detective start. I checked it. When we add that when she realizes you're not who you were thought to be, it's clear that "Whitmer" is not a mere name, 47 is actively impersonating someone else. The actual Mr. Whitmer is in the mission, though becomes passive the moment the player dons the detective outfit. In the game, impersonating is clearly not enough of a crime, but in the real world, he probably would be sentenced of impersonation through lie of omission.
Lies of omission aren't really illegal from what I gather. He just didn't see it fit to correct. Immoral? Yes. If he continued to do so in a courtroom under oath? Illegal.
There is another way to do this in Dartmoor that doesn't require the coin glitch or being a possible accessory: 1. Start as the Detective with an agency pickup of the walking cane 2. Gather all the clues in Zachary's room (Inspect body, computer, and get note) 3. Pull the book in the room to enter secret passage, grab floor plan, and exit using the other door 4. Grab your agency pickup and go to the library, activate the secret switch (since it's in a briefcase, you can use it without being suspicious and 47 will just drop it after use) and collect the Montgomery note 5. Go to Mr Fernsby and announce you are done with your investigation 6. Go to Alexa's room, accuse Zachary, and ask for the file as a reward 7. Alexa will yeet herself after walking to the balcony
I think you can bring the cane into the map, since you get it as a mastery reward. You can use that to get the quicker way of indirectly killing Alexa, at least if you have the heart to do it. (Seriously, nobody deserves that, not even her. It's the only kill in the game that I actually and unironically felt bad for. Still, it saves you the trouble of dealing with the coins to get into the greenhouse and Mr.Fernsby's office)
@@Dextinator12 You unlock the walking cane at Dartmoor Mastery Level 13. It's legal to hold, just not to pick up. If you use that to get into the secret room on the second floor above the library, you find a letter that can be used to convince Alexa Carlyle that her brother really did commit suicide. She'll give you the file and throw herself off the balcony in grief (which I think is a really horrible way for her to die). I think it's the only evidence you need. In fact, I'll test it now to be sure.
@@Dextinator12 Ok I just confirmed it. You can't carry the cane in on you person, but you can have it already in the manor in an Agency Stash. Nothing illegal had to happen for that. The official explanation is that "Grey's informant smuggles a briefcase into the manor" which is not really illegal, I don't think. You the player can carry around a briefcase in any disguise with no problem, Grey's informant is probably a member of the staff, and it's not illegal to leave a briefcase laying around. The cane can be legally taken from the briefcase, and can be legally carried, you just can't drop it and pick it back up. What I did was I started as the Detective in Zachary's room with a Walking Cane in a pickup in the hall. I investigated everything in the room, none of which is illegal. I went to talk to Mr. Fernsby, and kicked off the main part of the investigation. I made a b-line for the Agency Pickup in the hall upstairs, and grabbed the walking cane from the suitcase which is marked as a legal action. I went to the secret room, got Montgomery's Note from the secret room. I then went to Mr. Fernsby to tell him I had all the evidence I needed, brought my case to Alexa Carlyle, and told her about the note and that her brother committed suicide, which I had the evidence to prove. I asked for the case file as payment, turned around and walked out to my bike, not a single crime committed, and Alexa having thrown herself off a balcony while I was making my way for the front door. Not a single crime committed, and all objectives complete.
@@loganmunier9798 I think you kinda need to think of a legitimate reason for smuggling the cane in, otherwise it implies knowledge that you need it to get into the secret room, which weakens your case of just being a terrible detective rather than someone trying to cause the death of Alexa. Although I'm not sure why carrying a cane is classed as illegal in the first place 🤔
@@Ellie-rx3jt Ah, you make a good point. I'm sure I could come up with something sufficient after enough brainstorming, but it probably would be shaky reasoning at best, and just really shoddy detective work. Maybe because he cannot legally carry a gun, he wants to carry a legal way to defend himself in case the murderer tries to go after him, hence the cane? Still tough, not as good a story. I concede.
this is why i love this game. it pushes you to do this once you've replayed all the other ways you could think of. then you want the ultimate challenge
2:22 First, you don't "work your way up the corporate ladder" to become a private detective. You're your own boss. Second, people still think you're Detective Phineas Whitmer, even though you're not, and you both never correct them AND work on Whitmer's case that is EXTREMELY top secret. Which is identity fraud. Which is a crime.
I started the video thinking he would attempt to kill the target willingly, then I thought "wait, I'm pretty sure that's still a crime" but he managed to not even do that
Switching outfits is illegal cuz impersonating an important figure like a cop/doctor/fireman is illegal but luckily agent 47 worked his way up the chain to become a certified detective for this mission
Title: "How I beat Hitman Without Committing a SINGLE Crime" Actual Video: "How I beat ONE LEVEL of Hitman without committing a single crime" That's quite the difference, ser. :P
There is another path as the detective where you can convince her to give you the file and then she goes and kills herself from the balcony, but that one requires you to hold the illegal cane to get to a hidden room with a decades old letter inside.
7:51 - being intentionally dishonest, but you spent the entire time dressed like a detective you are not, which means you were acting without a PI license which is needed in the real Dartmoor
I love this terrible detective. He bumbled into the mansion, fixed a random piece of chemical equipment out of pure altruism, found a single piece of evidence, assumed he'd cracked the case, and left promptly because "it would be loitering for me to stay inside too long". He's perfectly lawful, but he's criminally stupid.
Inspector Clouseau
Reminds me of inspector Clouseau in the Pink Panter
Lawful Stupid
I know, this was literally straight from a comedy movie and I'm here for it
Ikr the only thing they could say he did bad was being a terrible detective XD
I absolutely adore the concept of a character who sucks so much at being a detective that he becomes one of the world's most lethal assassins by pure accident
“I was doing my job and fixed a machine on the way”
-agent 47
That sounds hilarious I would love a movie or show with that concept, like he is hunting himself but has no clue, miraculously accidentally killing many in his wake by pure coincidence (like helping a killer) or directly (like giving someone who allergic to peanuts a pb&j)
@@jacktherabbit2238 We'll call that movie "The sHitman"
@@filipporapetti9354 I laughed too hard at that 😭
@@jacktherabbit2238 Don't laugh yourself to death, or you'll be another victim of the sHitman
The best part is, if the real detective comes in after this, he’ll have two dead bodies to investigate, and he’ll surely convict the real killer, and let both you and the butler off scot free.
@@TheFrenchmanCooks Yes, but in the context of this video, we're assuming 47 put in the work to become a legitimate detective before coming to the manor. So there was no impersonation being done.
@@TheFrenchmanCooksI think a degree of leniency is required when trying to do a zero-crime run in the game about murdering people
@@TheFrenchmanCooksnot all detectives are officers of the law
yeah he's a private detective too@@svgPhoenix
@@TheFrenchmanCooksit's not all that impossible for him to go through that process legally, is it? Maybe he was a legal investigator before his current arrangements and his old license is still valid which makes him happen to be the right person for the job
That's impressive. You managed to find a way to kill the target with your own hands being clean; no conspiracy to commit murder, no setting up a booby trap, your involvement in the murder was pure "happenstance".
if you solve the case correctly, she commits suicide instead. so you can keep your hands clean that way too
@@Lunaraiabut I think he said it would require him to pick up illegal evidence
And maybe the old lady wouldn't have given him the file he needed, which was the only way to get it without stealing it (just assuming, I've never played this game)
@@chaisekarateka5254 the scene is almost identical, only difference is the fact she asks to be alone after the case is cleared, so no one will stop her from taking the jump from her balcony.
@@Lunaraia Actually, that happens if you lie to her and say that her brother killed himself. Which is being intentionally dishonest. Also, you need to pick up the cane illegally to do this.
@@diegogonzalez5273 she also does it if you sucessfully solve it
This is a brilliant and utterly terrifying idea of an omnipotent assassin.
The assassin is able to see the intentions of characters around him and the future. He can kill anyone he wants without breaking the law or directly encouraging them. All he needs to do is slightly tweak fate and let it play out on its own.
Madness is like gravity. All you needs to go is just a little push and it all go insane
That’s not even an assassin anymore that’s God doing a little trolling from the perspective of an Human Avatar instead of looking down and doing it from Heaven
I do reckon the term for this is omniscient, because there was a lot he was unable to do due to the no crime committed rule
Funnily enough, I know of two games that work like that, but instead of an assassin, the goal is the opposite, you need to stop people from dying. In Ghost Trick, you're a ghost that can rewind time 4 minutes before someone dies and, by only possessing objects, needs to stop people from dying. The game Sexy Brutale works a bit similar, you're not a ghost, but your interactions are also very limited.
There is actually something kind of like this in one Henri Poirot novel where (obviously spoilers for the whole novel) the murderer isn't actually omniscient but they very subtly and indirectly manipulate people into commiting murder. It's remarked that it's the perfect crime as they can't actually be prosecuted. They make seemingly innocuous comments to make others commit murder. Poirot solves this by outright killing them when he figures out (thus indirectly also making him a murderer). It's the last novel in the series under the name "Curtain: Poirot's Last Case".
Diana: "47, what are you doing? Why are you leaving the property?"
47: "My job here is done."
Diana: "You got the file, yes, but what of Alexa? You were supposed to... Wait. What? Our surveillance shows that somehow Alexa dropped dead in her living room, just ten seconds ago. How did you do that?"
47: "I have no idea."
"I used the power of the lord (the player), Diana"
That's how Path to Victory look in action
47: "it's elementary"
@@Big_Sloppathe worm brainrot spreads
47 internally “shit I completely forgot about that. Lucky that this solved itself
The guard saying "I love parkour! It's so edgey!!" Is priceless
I would like, but you have 420 likes.
@@0verloadedwhy stop?
I'd like but it's 666 right now
I'D lIkE bUt iTs 829 rIgHt nOw 🤓
not 666 anymore so take my like
“Your honor I would like to plead guilty and request the death penalty”
“Mr 47 we brought you in to talk about your unpaid parking tickets”
“Who even are you?”
Rieper*
"Exactly."
tbf, a death penalty sounds more pleasant than fighting or paying for a parking ticket.
@@EntityXIII Yes, life is terrible.
Fun fact! The detective guy is actually at where he spawns normally if you use the detective disguise start so it is confirmed that 47 didn’t steal his clothes!
Edit: what have I wrought upon this land?
What about identity theft?
I do not think 47 ever uses the detective’s name so he could claim that they all just assumed it was him, anyway he basically tells Alexa that he’s 47 by asking for the case file therefore they know 47 isn’t him
@@Zpixi09
Well, the investigators might still find it sus that the actual detective, Phineas Whitmer, was invited and 47 not. From their perspective, this someone completely random other detective just happened to come and waltz in at the exact same day and never introduced himself as someone else or corrected anybody when referred to as this actually invited detective. I suspect the "not correcting" part might still lead to a sentence, as you're actively making others think you're someone you're not.
@@contradrian8430I think thats lying by omission
Fraud??
I've played this game for hours and never realized that there's such a complicated way for killing...I mean allowing Carlisle to die without even touching her.
You can also say Gregory killed himself. So she throws herself from the building
without even the mens rea (intent) of murder
you also can do it if you tell he did a suicide she will jump of the balcony
@@MoviesNGames007ukYeah but you wont get access to file then probably
@@Finlandia_Would she give you payment before doing that tho ?
I was going to grumble about the use of a glitch to get into the locked areas, but knowing that you should in-universe be allowed to just ask for access into those rooms as part of your investigation not only makes sense but is something of an oversight from the developer's standpoint. This is wonderful. Well done.
yeah its weird they made the whole path of being a detective and didn't have a way to get into the rooms without being found suspicious if somebody saw you
Gotta appreciate the fact that Diana apparently didn't find it weird at all that someone somehow expertly fixed her poison distillery XD
Maybe she did not notice it being broken? idk
To be fair, all 47 did was use a wrench and seemingly tightened a screw?
It probably wasn’t that broken.
"well this is fixed, i gotta make poison now."
Ever had something broken, wallow in self pity, turn it on as a last resort, and it's working for some strange bizarre reason?
You don't ask when you're given a Mulligan like that!
@@magi_stricide"OH NO, MY WHOLE PLAN IS RUINED BECAUSE MY MACHINE ISN'T WORKING"
*tightens a screw*
"IT'S A MIRACLE"
.... she probably wasn't too handy
This does beg the question, what are the least amount of crimes needed to be committed to complete the game?
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@@senbowe2859 Source?
@@gerald2508 no
@@senbowe2859 Ok, have fun.
And ironically, after all of that he decides to illegally ride a motorcycle without the safety helmet!
clever
Not sure what the laws are there but some places it's legal to not wear a helmet.
@@Arthillisyeah it is legal in england which is where this map takes place
And assuming the story to this point and what we know, he doesn't have an actual driver's license. Just a fake provided by the ICA
And trespassing
47 would be a good detective
Has bro played Dartmoor
@@MasayoshiTakanakafan yes, that's why I say that
He’s good at everything
I think 47 would be a good hitman.
@@Eligible921 probably
I love the idea of 47 in trial and the conversation going:
"So, you're a contract killer"
"Yup"
"And you were hired to kill her?"
"Yup"
"But you didnt kill her"
"Nope"
"And you didnt even commit a single crime"
"Nope"
"What are you?!"
"Innocent"
Technically, being "hired to kill" is itself a crime, even before any actual attempt is made.
@@jdotozMaybe he was forced
@@destinymontez6170 That's not what "hired" means. If he had been under duress, he can either testify to that or not. If not, the court can only work with the facts in evidence.
Technically 47 wasn't hired to kill Alexa. No agency was paying him to kill her unless subject 6 paid him to kill the partners. Is far as I'm aware it was a favour for a friend.
@@louisewilson2044 That still meets the criteria for conspiracy.
Turns out if you want someone dead without committing a crime you just have to be a cop
who would have known? So surprising. Hah.
Cop... nurse.... delivery man ..... doctor......air sprayer .....house cleaners.... tailor ....
That's kinda true in the real world, actually. Shame.
You could play through the entire game in a minumum crime run. Either by committing the least number of crimes.
Hokkaido is also one. Destroy the targets heart and kill the woman in the steam room without ever laying a finger on them
@@MoviesNGames007uk Though that would be manslaughter. Besides, isn't destroying the heart marked as an illegal action?
You could inform a surgeon that soders is responsible for killing his parents and rest will happen
@@_red_crewmate
LowCrime% run
@@_red_crewmateYou can make manipulate other guy to do that,you dont have to do it yourself
Alternatively, you could have said that her brother committed suicide, this would cause her to not only hand the file over, but she even later kills herself FOR YOU. meaning you can complete this entire level and legitimately have no personal impact on her death whatsoever
From what I remember though there is no way to access the areas with the necessary evidence for that kill without picking up the cane, which is for some reason illegal even though iirc the cane itself isn't illegal to have.
@@Midnight-wh2bstheft maybe
@@Midnight-wh2bs I actually think you can get it without breaking the rules. you need access to the daughters room and find the hidden panel that leads to the hidden room. i would have to check
@@hamchurger4566 There are some you can access without it, but the one required to get her to off herself is hidden behind one that can only be accessed with the cane.
@@Midnight-wh2bsYeah, nothing would be illegal about picking it up, so I assume it being marked as such was a bug
I actually love how dedicated people are to take a game that ASKS you to behave in a certain way and to try and find a way to beat it by doing the exact opposite. It's funny that the game even allows this.
The goal in the levels is to get the targets to die and gtfo. That goal doesn’t imply Agent 47 has to do it by their own hands.
you do technically commit impersonation, but in the UK it's only illegal to impersonate someone in order to defraud money or personal gain. Simply telling people you're someone who you aren't (as long as it's a normal citizen and you're not impersonating a government worker like a cop or lawyer) isn't actually a crime on its own.
All 47 gained was documents... and he gave away the ruse by having done so.
Also, could argue the gain was impersonal and non-monetary.
He did get the file which you could argue was personal gain.
Also, I suspect UK law isn't that simple. An identity thief can absolutely ruin the lives of others. Think of somebody ruining someone else's reputation, causing various rea-life problems to the victim. Nay, I have hard time believing those would be the only instances where impersonation would be illegal in the UK.
He gained the file AFTER revealing he was lying about his identity. @@rbrucerye
@@contradrian8430laws are rarely simple, but surely in that case, it's not the impersonation that's illegal but the besmirching (feels like some extension of slander). It would be just as illegal if you damaged someone's reputation and caused them real-life problems without impersonating anyone.
while 47 is technically an accomplice to murder, he would be let free as he (in this scenario) had no idea that it fixing a machine could have such a domino effect, absolving him of any charges.
Even that is a stretch. It’s a distillery, probably the rarest object used for a murder.
Is the person that made the glass she drank out of an accomplice too? What about the gardener that grew the plant that was brewed into the poison?
Jail is filling up quick!
@@cynic5581 Fun fact: the gardener is the guy whose murder he was investigating
If 47 left the assassin business and became a PI he'd be excellent at his job particularly in the case of homicides since he'd know exactly what to look for and who to question.
That'd make a cool what if story, especially if one of his cases had him chasing another assassin from the agency.
I mean,he doesnt exactly need to
47 either way most of time only is dealing with criminals
Imagine getting interrogated by 47
@@rinoz47 I imagine I'd be like being tortured by the Punisher if Frank Castle were more of a gentleman.
A spinoff of being a detective 47 would be interesting, figuring out the opposite end of Agent 47 game's missions
What’s a PI?
I feel there should be more levels where this is possible. There should be levels for self-defense, and using NPCs to follow you( it's the NPC's fault to push your target into a meat grinder or something).
There are several where the NPCs will bump off your targets for you, but most of them require you doing something illegal to find something to motivate them to kill.
theres 18 levels in the game and you could probably do it in 10ish levels maybe if you get very loosey-goosey with the rules like "how was i supposed to know that red barrel had oil in it and the guy would smoke on it" levels of moving the goal posts
bonus points if it's legal in the level's real world jurisdiction
It’s very difficult because using real world laws even you “accidentally”killing someone is manslaughter.
Most “no kill” play throughs involve someone essentially luring the target into a booby trap which is 1st degree murder. They’re just adding a bunch of processes between them and the murder as if that absolves them of wrongdoing somehow.
There is a level where you can have two NPCs fight and one pushes the target off a balcony.
"It's only a crime if you get caught."
Silent assasin suit only(I killed everyone)
@@Vukan.Kos. in game right?😅
Indeed everything is legal If you don't get caught 😊
@@ZomboidMania No.
The exclaimation points dont make something illegal, it just means theyre suspicious. its not illegal to pick up a wet floor sign or hit a chair button.
47: My work here is done.
Diana: But you didn't do anything.
47: *Leaves*
I was looking for this reference!
About the real detective: if you go to the front gate at the start of the level, you'll see him just chilling there, alive and well. So yes, 47 did indeed legally work his way to become the PI for just one mission 👌
How much work do you think it is to become a PI? I think you would be sorely disapointed at the lack of vigor.
In Paris there is one enforcer guard in the guest lounge that becomes suspicious even if you don't do anything illegal. If you let him shoot you and then knock him out, that should technically count as self-defense in court, right? The Crows in Mumbai are also guards who attack you first
The first would defenitly be self defense not sure about the others
You could even legally shoot them because they shot you.
Depends on how the ones in Mumbai attack you. If the do nothing more than holding you to prevent entering, you have no legal ground to hurt them. If they are shooting you, even then it depends on the circumstances.
Self defense? Thats barbaric. If you kill your enemies, they win.
@@jackhazardous4008 No, they don't. They're dead, bodies ceased to function, gone forever.
i presume the greatest challenge to defend 47 in court is to identify the reason 47 'tampered' with the poison machine
"Your honor, I just thought I was being a good citizen in fixing a broken machine! I didn't know it would be used to kill!"
It's not a poison machine, it's a distillery. Distilleries are not illegal, they're used for many legal purposes. Many people use distilleries to create clean drinking water.
@@SchemingGoldberg nice
@@NightLoveStar if the case could even get that far, merely touching the wrench to begin with was illegal
@@chainsawz5618how would picking up the wrench be illegal?
I love the guard that was like “Oh I love parkour! It’s so edgy!”
Fun fact: trespass is not a litigatable crime in England! If you are found somewhere you shouldn't be, unless there is reason to think you were there to commit another crime (say stealing or vandalism or, of course, assassination), you are just moved on when apprehended.
"Why are you in others property?"
"Oh sorry officer, I'm just stupid"
@@Ice_T_Shortz basically yes, or nosy.
It's similar in the US, though you could get a misdemeanor charge for trespassing and if you entered a building it could be breaking and entering. However, when I worked juvenile detention we detained a couple kids that got a burglary charge, because while they didn't steal anything from someone's garage, they admitted that they entered illegally with the intention of taking something, they just didn't find anything they wanted and they left. The admission of intent to steal increases the charge from misdemeanor trespassing or B&E to felony burglary.
The Mansion Master Key is in the Butlers room. You can talk into getting access to the room, grab the key and proceed to unlock every door without it being labelled as illegal
47 wasnt impersonating a detective, he just wore such fancy clothes that the people decided he was worthy of entering the mansion
Do it again with real world laws!!!! IT WOULD BE SO COOL!!
hell yeah
Yeah, impersonating a police officer, destroying evidence at a crime scene, actually trespassing if you were impersonating an officer. And much more, don't think you could do this with actual laws.
@doommarauder3532 at the start he said that he assumed that 47 worked his way up, and cause he is a detective, he can mess with the crime scenes to figure it out
especially bc of the fact that just being a hitman is illegal
He’s a ica member so he’s like a cop
I think it's really cool the game has that much freedom and allows for such creativity!
The games*
@@capybara9521 Just one game now since Hitman 3 rolled out an update that combines them all.
This is going to be great! what next? "i beat hitman by doing nothing"
Except letting the targets die from negligence.
"how long can i keep the targets alive" that would be funny, imagine a multiplayer hitman game where he has to keep them alive that would be awesome i would watch that video if there was one, it would be interesting.@@drmarioprojectm1510
@@72SinSaeWell the characters can’t die from natural causes.
maybe someone could make a mod for that, or there could be something else, maybe hitman but im the target? @@Skrunkrus
@@Skrunkrus "multiplayer"
It...feels like this level was just made to be like a movie.
It's a direct omage to 'Who dunnit' mystery/detective movies/books.
This run only begs the question: did you drop the wrench used to repair the destillation kit before exiting the mission? Cause that right there is theft! 😂😜
Tell that to the coworkers that keep walking off with my tools.
the amount of work this guy puts in his video is amazing. You deserve way more attention. Keep it up
The guard who makes the parkour comment is hilarious
“Oh I love parkour 🏃♂️ 💨, so edgy 😜 “
-security guard
Defamation is only illegal in civil court, so he’s in the green criminally
agent 47 is such a kind person. he didn't need to fix the machine but he still did it
2:22
I'm not sure if that still makes sense with the rest of the mission. When presenting the conclusion of the investigation to Alexa Carlisle, she still refers to the player as "Mr Whitmer", even in the detective start. I checked it. When we add that when she realizes you're not who you were thought to be, it's clear that "Whitmer" is not a mere name, 47 is actively impersonating someone else. The actual Mr. Whitmer is in the mission, though becomes passive the moment the player dons the detective outfit. In the game, impersonating is clearly not enough of a crime, but in the real world, he probably would be sentenced of impersonation through lie of omission.
"Identity theft is not a joke, 47, millions of families suffer every year!"
Lies of omission aren't really illegal from what I gather. He just didn't see it fit to correct. Immoral? Yes. If he continued to do so in a courtroom under oath? Illegal.
@@rafidsadman 47 millions suffer every year.
Impersonation a non police officer isn't a crime if you aren't planning to commit any other crimes or
Patient zero custom contract with the target being the suicidal guy be like
7:29 ok i find it incredibly funny how quickly she drops the glass and gets poisoned after drinking from it
Me: Your honor I wasn't stalking my neighbor. I took a part time job as a Detective.
Judge: Case dismissed!!
Diana: congratulations, Agent 47. The mission was a success.
47: tf are you talking about?
Your explanation of the target dying of poison is like explaining that a dnd character does not know everything the player knows.
You should do a full run of the game with minimum potential prison time, could make a fun challenge run category.
In the tutorial level since it's training, nothing you do is illegal.
Can we stop and admire how complex this scenery was made? I find it incredible.
There is another way to do this in Dartmoor that doesn't require the coin glitch or being a possible accessory:
1. Start as the Detective with an agency pickup of the walking cane
2. Gather all the clues in Zachary's room (Inspect body, computer, and get note)
3. Pull the book in the room to enter secret passage, grab floor plan, and exit using the other door
4. Grab your agency pickup and go to the library, activate the secret switch (since it's in a briefcase, you can use it without being suspicious and 47 will just drop it after use) and collect the Montgomery note
5. Go to Mr Fernsby and announce you are done with your investigation
6. Go to Alexa's room, accuse Zachary, and ask for the file as a reward
7. Alexa will yeet herself after walking to the balcony
Title is misleading, you didn't "BEAT hitman" you just cleared one single level...
TH-cam user discovers clickbait titles for the first tim
I think you can bring the cane into the map, since you get it as a mastery reward. You can use that to get the quicker way of indirectly killing Alexa, at least if you have the heart to do it.
(Seriously, nobody deserves that, not even her. It's the only kill in the game that I actually and unironically felt bad for. Still, it saves you the trouble of dealing with the coins to get into the greenhouse and Mr.Fernsby's office)
Explain?
@@Dextinator12 You unlock the walking cane at Dartmoor Mastery Level 13. It's legal to hold, just not to pick up. If you use that to get into the secret room on the second floor above the library, you find a letter that can be used to convince Alexa Carlyle that her brother really did commit suicide. She'll give you the file and throw herself off the balcony in grief (which I think is a really horrible way for her to die). I think it's the only evidence you need. In fact, I'll test it now to be sure.
@@Dextinator12 Ok I just confirmed it. You can't carry the cane in on you person, but you can have it already in the manor in an Agency Stash. Nothing illegal had to happen for that. The official explanation is that "Grey's informant smuggles a briefcase into the manor" which is not really illegal, I don't think. You the player can carry around a briefcase in any disguise with no problem, Grey's informant is probably a member of the staff, and it's not illegal to leave a briefcase laying around. The cane can be legally taken from the briefcase, and can be legally carried, you just can't drop it and pick it back up.
What I did was I started as the Detective in Zachary's room with a Walking Cane in a pickup in the hall. I investigated everything in the room, none of which is illegal. I went to talk to Mr. Fernsby, and kicked off the main part of the investigation. I made a b-line for the Agency Pickup in the hall upstairs, and grabbed the walking cane from the suitcase which is marked as a legal action. I went to the secret room, got Montgomery's Note from the secret room. I then went to Mr. Fernsby to tell him I had all the evidence I needed, brought my case to Alexa Carlyle, and told her about the note and that her brother committed suicide, which I had the evidence to prove. I asked for the case file as payment, turned around and walked out to my bike, not a single crime committed, and Alexa having thrown herself off a balcony while I was making my way for the front door.
Not a single crime committed, and all objectives complete.
@@loganmunier9798
I think you kinda need to think of a legitimate reason for smuggling the cane in, otherwise it implies knowledge that you need it to get into the secret room, which weakens your case of just being a terrible detective rather than someone trying to cause the death of Alexa. Although I'm not sure why carrying a cane is classed as illegal in the first place 🤔
@@Ellie-rx3jt Ah, you make a good point. I'm sure I could come up with something sufficient after enough brainstorming, but it probably would be shaky reasoning at best, and just really shoddy detective work. Maybe because he cannot legally carry a gun, he wants to carry a legal way to defend himself in case the murderer tries to go after him, hence the cane? Still tough, not as good a story. I concede.
Whenever onionbutter posts it’s a good day
4:28 watching 47 casually hang onto a wall while getting SHOT for no reason was absolutely hilarious
I love seeing players do anything they can to not do what a game wants them to do. This is truly amazing.
the presentation of the little twist at the end earned a like and a half
I didn't think this was possible. Truly incredible job!
"Alexa, how did you die?"
Okay, I'll leave.
Charged for conspiracy.
"But 47 framed the guy"
He did the challenge. His own rules then
4:28 that is some tomodachi life kind of dialogue
I could see the exact dialogue being brought up in island news
this is why i love this game. it pushes you to do this once you've replayed all the other ways you could think of. then you want the ultimate challenge
2:22
First, you don't "work your way up the corporate ladder" to become a private detective. You're your own boss.
Second, people still think you're Detective Phineas Whitmer, even though you're not, and you both never correct them AND work on Whitmer's case that is EXTREMELY top secret.
Which is identity fraud.
Which is a crime.
you dont legally have to correct them, its their fault for assuming
@@rexacion I agree, it IS their fault for assuming.
That's why they're wrong.
Imagine 47's surprise after all this when he gets arrested for conspiracy.
I started the video thinking he would attempt to kill the target willingly, then I thought "wait, I'm pretty sure that's still a crime" but he managed to not even do that
The most satisfying thing in any hitman game is just nudging the first domino and walking away.
Moral of the Story: If you want to do Bad Stuff without it being illegal just be a cop
Switching outfits is illegal cuz impersonating an important figure like a cop/doctor/fireman is illegal but luckily agent 47 worked his way up the chain to become a certified detective for this mission
in this run, you play as a bumbling fool who solves nothing and only does things out of the goodness of his heart and the emptiness of his brain
a crime is only a crime if someone sees it ._.
so it means hitman is already "without" crimes if you dont get spotted
Title: "How I beat Hitman Without Committing a SINGLE Crime"
Actual Video: "How I beat ONE LEVEL of Hitman without committing a single crime"
That's quite the difference, ser. :P
"Oh, I just love parkour. It's so edgy!"
I've never played this game, but I imagine there's more than one mission, so... this isn't beating Hitman, this is beating one mission in Hitman.
Now we need to get a lawyer to watch this video and break down all the crimes you did commit
Always fun beating these without even laying a hand on the target. Maybe next time you could beat other levels by other NPC's killing the target
There is another path as the detective where you can convince her to give you the file and then she goes and kills herself from the balcony, but that one requires you to hold the illegal cane to get to a hidden room with a decades old letter inside.
02:45 "STEALING" The file. Mission Failed in less than two seconds 😂
I love.how you always have an indicator for your experiments instead of just subjectively deciding
Great video, straight to the point, good editing, good voiceover, got exactly what I came for.
"Oh i just love parkour, its so edgy 😊"
-Guard
7:51 - being intentionally dishonest, but you spent the entire time dressed like a detective you are not, which means you were acting without a PI license which is needed in the real Dartmoor
He mentioned that. He is assuming that in this fictional scenario, agent 47 actually was a detective.
Officer: asks for license for the bike.
47: oh shit
next video should be "can i beat hitman silently without changing my disguise"
You mean SASO?
silent assassin / suit only is already a thing
Nope
@@capybara9521 why?
@@Coldduck1988because you like your own comment and silent assassin suit only already exists
Title: “How I beat Hitman without crime.”
Video: “How I beat one level without crime.”
Woah cool, I can’t believe you beat the entirety of Hitman in only one level ‼️
"but 47 is not a detective"
How do you know? Maybe he is a Detective and checks his own crimes for double money.
Bro went from Agent 47 to 007
nah bro went from agent 47 to a serious version of austin powers
4:24 😂😂😂😂 "oh i just love parkour, *its so Edgy!* " 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I wish this game had a way to do this in every mission. 😂 A challenge to find a way
It should be noted that 47 does have rules against killing innocent people.
This guy deserves a million subs
yes
he has a great amount for less then 1 year of videos tho
@@victoref yea he is a really good youtuber to good this quick to be this good tho so I'd like to see what other video creation he has done
Nope
@@capybara9521 why not
My first reaction to this video was, this is impossible. But then you mentioned Dartmoor, and it all made sense
The title should be 'How I Beat *A* Hitman *Level* Without Committing A SINGLE Crime.'
I thought this was about how to beat an entire game.
Just remember, all of this for a piece of paper.
“I love parkour” got me 💀
Same lmao
congrats you did 2 mission stories the ways the dev intended very impressive and creative