Never trust Varys The Spider | Blackfyre Blueprint | The Black Dragon Conspiracy | Game of Thrones
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- In Game of Thrones or A Song of Ice and Fire there are a ton of conspiracies, plots , secrets and lies. However, The Biggest Conspiracy is The Black Dragon Conspiracy. House Blackfyre was a rival branch of House Targaryen that has long thought to be extinct. But actually, There seems to be a secret plot to seat a Blackfyre on the Iron throne. In a Dance with Dragons we meet Rhaegar Targaryen and Elia Martell's alleged son Aegon Targaryen, However we thought he died along time ago during the sack of Kings Landing. Allegedly Varys The Spider and Illyrio The Cheesemonger have a boy that they claim is Aegon, and they have been conspiring for years and years to make him King of Westeros.. But WHY?
This Video is an in depth look into the this Black Dragon Conspiracy. I will show you why Varys may be a Targaryen or atleast have Targaryen lineage. I will go thru Varys's motives, Illyrio's motives and What all of this could mean for Westeros.
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I wish George had finished the books just before the first season aired.
I just realized on a re read that Rhaegar knighted ser Gregor my heart dropped
Then he raped and murdered his wife and killed his children. What a great guy. Smh
In which chapter? book?
@@cesarrodriguez8893 A Game of Thrones, Chapter 29, Sansa II. He was knighted by Prince Rhaegar personally
Jon connington was so butthurt for rhaegar it make sense to how he was easily duped into believing that this child was rhaegar's son
Hasan Wilson exactly
Nope, someone who was capable of keeping himself hidden not just from Varys spies but from almost everyone for over ten years is not the kind of person easily duped.
@@jorenvanderark3567 someone can be if they believe enough that what they are fighting for is real even if it is not.
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Sure, now he might be duped with something else... but the original nearly unbelievable story? Varys and Illyrio would have had to fake and swindle to an impossible degree for him to fall for it. Easy to do with a drunkard, not with someone who managed to hide not just from a somewhat allied Varys but every Lord with a spy network.
Logical conclusion: it's rhaegar kid especially since he has fone thi gd that have given him Rhaegar flashbacks at least once (and probably more than once)
@@jorenvanderark3567 lmao ok dude chill. That's your opinion. But I still don't think he is a Targaryen especially because he just popped out of nowhere without any information from him.
Illyrios physical description sounds like Aegon the unworthy in the books
And the physical descriptions of Sam and Robert Baratheon in the 1st book are the same of George during his youth and adulthood
Blackfyre Blueprint my lost mixtape written in blood and 100% fire. Varys has a copy I see.
I've always believed Varys is a Blackfyre
You fool! That's what they want you to think! To distract you from the fact that Varys is actually a merman! Open your eyes!
Sergio Banuelos LMFAO
This may be in tomorrow's video but I've read theories that Varys and Serra are brother and sister, and that's why Varys is so loyal to Illyrio and vice versa. Aegon is Serra (Blackfyre) and Illyrio's son so they've been planning to infiltrate the crown of Westeros and Varys got himself into Aerys's court through planting whispers and knew King Aerys would be easy to manipulate.
That is not an theory, is the truth!
I am very happy I found this channel before the end of the show so I have something to fill the void between seasons. This channel also helped get me to start reading the books so thanks for that.
Thank God she uploads a lot because we still have over a year for it [tv show] to finish the series..
I need to read the books 😩 Great job🙌🏾white lady with the black lady voice❤️
lmao she sounds black as fuck!!!
EVE-Voni's World LMAO. It’s my Baltimore Accent LOL
AdrianXpression Yo every time I watch her I have to think about who I'm listening too😩😂😂
GrayArea I love it❤️ gets me every time 😩 and I've been watching for awhile now
EVE-Voni's World i honestly thought she was just using a fake picture.....not only the voice....the way she speaks
You are legit my favorite Game of Thrones channel lol really great work
AdrianXpression thanks
AdrianXpression I totally agree!
On Dragonstone drift Mark and Clark aisle it would be easy to find a child with Valyrian features considering the majority of the people on those Island look like that despite the lack of descriptions we get in the books
Hasan Wilson Aurane Waters
House Velaryon too. And isn't it hilarious that Robert wanted to kill all the Targaryens, when he himself had a Targaryen grandmother. How does a person forget such a thing?
Melissa Blackwood the hypocrisy
@@melissablackwood He used his grandmothers blood as part of his claim too lol
I wish we could have gotten the fake Aegon Targaryeon story on the show.
Brian Achim omg me too... the shady bunch chapters are some of my favorites
GrayArea I'm curious to see his future story, besides Stannis I think he would make a great king even though he is a fake.
It would have been great! With that storyline out went not only Aegon but Jon Connington, Arianne, Duckfield and the best part of Varys' storyline.
I love this theory, lets hope Bran goes back and see's what Varys is really up to.
UGHHH now that you show that clip of Varys and Ned in the black cells, I can’t help but notice the similarities between Varys’ black outfit/hood and the black dressed man photographed with Jon in King’s Landing. What if he betrays Jon instead of Dany? 😱😶😖
Christine Luce Varys is dressed as a jailer.. maybe Jon is in jail. In the black cells. He will be betraying someone.. I think given his book story line
Fageon isn't Elia's son. She was in the nursery when she died feeding Ageon. Why would she feed a low born child? Even if this wasn't Ageon I think Elia would know what her son looked like. So this theory makes sense. Good job
So i juuuust finished ADWD and I had the thought that if young griff really is ageon then he's a dead man lol. I love that you brought back up the Varys Blackfyre conspiracy.
Hey Gray, Thanks for the interesting viewpoints. I have heard this theory vocalized many times, but no-one has ever offered up the connective tissue at all. Great work!!! I can't wait for part 2 and what you suspect the motivations of this dastardly duo to be.
I just discovered your channel during the middle of the summer and have listened to so much good stuff from you and your cohorts. I have difficulty reading books these days so this helps me so much to know the stories. I have loved the intrigues in the books and the costumes so much of the show. You bring these together for me and can't thank you enough for filling in the gaps for me.
Absolutely brilliant! I had never thought of this angle but you are absolutely right. I can see how it could play out too. I hope the show goes in this direction. Thanks! 👍
A LOOOOOOOTTTT OF WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT VARYS DOWN TO HIS NAME SOUNDING/SPELLING LIKE MOST TARGARYEN NAMES MADE ME GO OHHHHH YEAH!!!! GREAT VIDEO
I have reason to believe that the $10,000. That was sent to the Trident were all in experience green boys as a practical joke by Doran
OMG, you impress me with all your power of paying attention to details. I love your theory, your voice and your analyse.
Sakina Masalec Thank you
What an amazing plot it would be that Varys is Balckfyre. And he is working on a plan to bring Balckfyre to power or at least Targeryens, because one way or another Balckfyre are still Targeryens.
I have been having gray area withdraws
Love your work! Excited for part 2 :)
Great video! Makes too much sense that Varys is a Blackfyre or Targaryen.
Interesting!! Thank you Grey Area!! Hugs
Varys is super shady and interesting. Keeps his cards real close. Great video!
Stumbled on this today, I've only been putting this out there for 6 or 7 years... this is the heart of the Game of Thrones since the beginning
Another brilliant video to feed my GOT addiction x
I love your videos. Very in depth analysis of the story and characters.♥️
this is a fantastic video..love the research that you did for this and this is why i love your videos
I love your perspective! Great video!!
When he kills Ser Kevan, why does he say “he knows what is like to be hunted” during his little speech? I always wonder...who were the hunters? 🧐
Good point!
It might be a hint of fAegon knowing his Blackfyre heritage, but is doing everything he can to keep his true identity a secret!
I love when get my mind thiking like crazy. Thanks👏👏❤❤❤
You are just super Bomb!! I caught that about Varys' name as well.
God bless you, your content and all of ya! 🙌
Love Ur videos!!!!!
Sir Roland DeStark nice handle!
Never trust spiders.
Hasan Wilson neverrrrr
I love your video!!
Yes, yes, YES! I cannot tell you how many people I know who have ZERO suspicion of Varys. How on Planetos?! This is a marvellous series. I cannot believe how many quality, well-researched and edited videos you're able to crank you. I don't know how I'd survive the long night without you.
Great video!
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To a good number of people, one baby looks much like another, so long as the hair color and eye color are the same. It's MUCH easier to pass off one dead baby as another. Rhaenys was three years old, so it would have been EXTREMELY difficult to find a kid who looked enough like her to replace her. That is why Varys did not offer to sneak her out too, because he knew Robert would never have stopped hunting for *both* kids if people knew one of them was missing and/or switched out before the sack of the city. No dobt he presented this an option to Elia that at least ONE of her children could be saved...the true heir to the throne.
I don't find this story unbelievable, and it's quite a common trope in fantasy/sword and sorcery stories (and Chinese dramas); the young boy who is switched out shortly after birth and is raised in exile either not knowing or not having anyone around him know he is actually royal by birth, though GRRM disdains such tropes and will probably turn this story on its head, which is why so many people expect that this is not the real Aegon.
Ser Kevan Lannister was able to recognize Rhaenys, but recalls that nobody could recognize Aegon. *Tywin* stated that this was Aegon and everyone else took him at his word. Seventeen years later, however, Kevan expresses uncertainty about the identity of the babe in the epilogue of "A Dance of Dragons."
Understand, I believe that is likely NOT the real Aegon...the kid ould have died as a baby and JC/Griff covered it up because Faegon is his key to regaining to regaining everything JC/Griff has lost. But I'm not yet convinced that Varys pulled anything here.
Cool!! Love your videos❤
Woohoo thanks for another amazing video! Can’t wait for the next ☝️ one! Your my #1 female GOT TH-camr!! 💯
I think you are spot on with this one!
Can you bring back the old intro one time for the one time ? Great work love keep it up !
Can't wait for part 2! Yes gray I think that Varys is a blackfyre too.
It is more probable that Varys came to Elia right before Clegane got to her, perhaps while he was killing Rhaenys. She was in another room. Which means she wouldn't have had much time to decide. Varys could have said something like your daughter is lost, but i could save Aegon. She agreed, and he switched babies. For me, I find it plausible. **edit** As for the identity of Varys, I've been working on that for awhile. He's definitely from Lys, not just because of Pycelle's description, no a much deeper reason; Varys is a Blackfyre. (I'll have to watch your video on that to see where you are on the Blackfyre subject) But yes, Varys is a Blackfyre. The second rebellion was squashed, which sent them into exile into the free cities. (wink wink) Lys is a free city. As for his parents, I've not narrowed that down. But I would surmise he's a bastard, which would account for him being a slave. Looking at the timeline of when things take place, it's extremely likely he's a BF. Now, most people know the theory of the Red Preistess', royal blood, yadda yadda, so i won't go there. Fast forward, and onto the show, this whole idea with the Golden Company, Varys is connected with them, assuming he's a Blackfyre. So, as far as the show is concerned at least, is that how Varys "betrays" Daenerys? Or will he call an audible on Cersei's plan, and that's how she dies, by the Golden Company betraying her? I'm not sold on the idea that Varys does betray Daenerys, by the way.
@Liz Lee To be fair, Varys would just need a baby boy of about the same age with purple (or a dark blue that can seem purple) and silver hair. This look is quite common in Lys, especially among prostitutes. Find one who doesn't want the kid, make the switch. Could have been done near the beginning of the war, prior to the the siege. They couldn't have done the same with Rhaenys because she was too old.
And as to whether Varys had the ability to sneak babies in and out of the Red Keep, with all the stuff he's pulled off I don't think it's outside his capabilities. He snuck Illyrio in and that dude's a fat man with dyed hair. He lived as a gaoler for YEARS with nobody recognizing him. With Aerys doing his Mad King thing, the residents were likely distracted or sticking to their rooms.
So, I think the story is plausible. Like Varys could have done it if he wanted to. Whether or not it's true, it's believable enough that people in universe who know about Varys might think he could do it. Which is the important part, I guess.
The 8 people knowing about Jon (Eggon - egg layer).... are the Starks (incl Jon) , Tyrion, Varys, Daenerys and Sam. Imo its still a well kept secret... unless Varys, Tyrion and Sansa dont announce it on the Westerosy morning News its all ok for Dany...
★★★★★ Outstanding, thank you so much for sharing
Thank you for being here through the long night! I always watch your videos!🔥🔥🔥I think that some theories will be in the book ... BUT not the show ... we only have 6 episodes to explain EVERYTHING! #FREEGHOST 🔥🔥🔥😍😍😍🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I love your videos. You are great
Oh, great. Suffering now the pain and delight of GOT withdrawals. I'm seeing faces and strange places. My imagination is seeking through the sights and sounds of an earlier season of GOT, that was never made. Thank you for taking us there. Another great video. Another great story told.
Great video as always! Do youthink Jon could be the valencar since asa Targareyen he is te youngest slbling? What are your thoughts?
Margherita Uzzo actually Dany should be younger
Thanks again Gray!
You do keep my Thrones fix going. It's going to be a really long winter.
You are my favorite youtuber and this is another great video
Ps do you have game of thrones conquest
Kyle Czerkiewicz thanks and no I don’t
So good love it makes so much sens Girl cant wait til tomorrow.
I think the dragon eggs were given to Dani because of the theory that only women of old Valeria with a certain hereditary gene can hatch dragons. I think it was Preston Jacobs who made a video on this. That the eggs that hatch in the cribs of boys were because of the presence of the mother in the nursery.
Crushing it, girl! Just awesome!
Man, the level of depth and thought in this series is astounding; GRRM has to be insane and just managing it really well; no way could you devote so much effort into a world and still remain in this one lmao.
This is really good. You have pointed out all the problems with Varys and Ilyrio and how their actions are contradictory. I am just about to view Part 2. Anyway I never thought the baby swap by Varys was problematic. It is easy to substitute one baby for another just like Jon did with Mances’ son. No one would have been able to identify his body even if his head wasn’t bashed. I am sure no one left in Roberts court had ever seen him but all of them would know what Rhaeghar’s wife and daughter looked like. So I can see a mother saving her son knowing there was no hope for the daughter. Also she may have been under the impression still that he was the Prince that was promised.
Great job,thank you much.XO
Love the video girl
Aerys saw plots and conspiracies in every shadow and Varys was there to point out any the King had missed.
Hola chica, GOOD STUFF n Varis as a Targerian.. Love it when u give us the FACTS from the books...I believe
I love this theory. Great job! It's not one I've heard, at least not so fleshed out. It's usually "Oh what if Varys is a Targaryen?" or "What if Varys is going to betray Dany?" (that second one is mostly show-oriented as, unfortunately, hey kinda forced Jon and Aegons' stories together). So thank you as always for presenting great information and thought provoking theory with firm foundation!
I personally think this could be exactly right for the books. If Dany fails, at least there would be another heir for a Targaryen rule. Even with R+L=J being confirmed for the books later on, Aegon (if he's the real deal, which you have me questioning now) is still older and also from a legitimate marriage birth -- if they keep to what we've seen in the show and there's documentation of Jon's legitimacy. If Dany fails, god forbid, there's at least that guaranteed Targaryen ready to take the throne. Sounds like a sound plan if that's Varys's ambitions.
Etude he’s scheming for Aegon but I think Varys wants to be his hand..
Makes perfect sense to put himself in what is essentially the most powerful seat besides the king/queen themselves. Not to mention he'd basically rule the kingdom since the king would likely hang on his every word. And who knows? That could be good for the realm if Varys truly 'serves the realm'. Or it could just be him vying for power just like everyone else.
Seeing Varys and Oberon speak is
so good
So when Melisandre said that Varys needs to die in Westeros, what did she mean and does it relate to everything you've said in this video, or is that another plot arc entirely, related more to betraying Dany?
I agree that Varys is likely a Blackfyre. Something I've never seen addressed in anyone's GoT theories is the possibility Varys is a faceless man. After all, in the book he is a master of disguise, so much so, that when he tells people his identity, they still can't see it. Sound familiar? Just a thought.
Here's another thing how could he have gotten him across the narrow sea with stannis's Fleet now kind of going around the narrow sea
Awsome video!!!!!!💋❤️💕💟😘🌻
07:20 Maybe Varys did'nt think that anyone would notice the difference, they were just babys and they can look pretty similar
“Schemes and plots are the same thing.” Tyrion
This makes me remind me of season 7 episode 4 when arya reunites with sansa and bran at winterfell, bran says "someone very wealthy wanted to me dead", who can it be? varys? illyrio? and why?
A lot of people question Dany's identity, it would be a cool story beat if Aegon was legit and Dany was the imposter since Dany draws so much of her strength from her ego, her sense of self.
hes way more daring cunning and kills people himself when it fits one of his many end goals in the books..he also held a few positions in kings landing an who know where else with different looks and different names.. he could have released ned but didn't and releasing tyrion was just an extra on top of planting old garthgreenhand gold coins.. he was a lot more sinister in the books if you compared him to the show.. still a great character and i cant wait until winds of winter!!! :D if its ever released :S south parks right about alot of things.. lol its coming!great video grey area jus noticed this pop up in my notification and im reading the iron druid series along with the dresden files so i haven't needed asoiaf videos to cure binges between the shows lol great video grey ill watch the last couple months worth of stuff an give you thumbs up's!
Liz Lee in the books he cuts out his little mice tung's before the became one of his little spies
Liz Lee yeah if varys was alive and real in this modern day hed own nike and 90%of the sweat shops around the world..
but they dont even speak in the show except the one for qyburn an i dont think he spoke even.. but i agree with you in that hes not a hartless psychopath but he is a very calculating and driven character who i think will do any good or horrible deed if it helps his main agenda.. but in the books, the little mice mice just listen and spy,pass/receive notes, steal papers/letters, listen to the people in the red keep in the tunnels and some might even be able to read and write (find an important letter and copy it so its not stolen and no one is the wiser) but as to loving an saving children at the very least in the books he used an sacrificed a common child to put in place of aegon/faegon (possibly killed the kid him self to make his face unrecognizable and blamed it on the mountain but at the least he left the princess and supposedly took egg? why not sacrifice 2 common children if it was his intent on saving the "last" dragons.. he could have taken egg an his sister and helped the queen escape and not let any kids get there faces crushed..varys is a dark character and his motives and agenda are still pretty uncertain but he is def. supporting the blackfyres (aegon) i like him in the show a bit less then in the books (they made him more likable on the show) and hes still one of the most interesting characters with one of the most mysterious back stories i cant wait to read about so all these awesome questions and mysteries can be answered iiiiiiif....! ggrm will release the winds of winter!! before ww3 happens >:( :S
I agree with you. Varys has to be a Targaryan/Blackfyre. Why else would he shave all his hair off.
If this theory is for the TV show it is far too complicated to play out in six episodes.
There has to be a crap ton of Blackfyres running around. According to TWOIAF, Daemon Blackfyre had seven sons by Rohanne of Tyrosh, and daughters besides. Bittersteel even married Daemon's eldest daughter. To say nothing of bastards (Dragonseeds, if you will) and their descendants. So it is not impossible that Varys could be blood of the dragon. Before I die, I need to know what the voice said from the flames !!!
So interesting and entertaining.
Enjoyed the video. As I was pondering the complexity, something struck me: people are usually driven by the thing that most impacted them. Varys was most impacted by the voice he heard from the blue flame. As he began to realize he was positioning himself to actually impact policy, he was driven to do whatever he saw actionable with the goal of avoiding the fate of the blue flame. His hatred of magic was his core principal. Preventing its reemergence would nullify the blue flame.
You are assuming that Varys told the truth about that. In the chapter where he killed Kevan, his voice was noted to deepen. He might not be a eunuch.
Great video I am a bit puzzled by Varys actions if his goal was to bring Dany and her brother to essos and have Dany to rise up. Then it doesn't make sense then if he is sabotaging Dany fight against Cerise by passing on information (Euron attacks on Narrow seas and Casterly Rock)
Does maesters conspiracy has anything with fall of targaryens ?no one knows if aegon was killed by mountain everyone beleived on tywins word only and what about theory aegon was switched with identical child before elia and kids were killed.
He did said Rhaegar in telling Varys about the council at Harrenhal. No one had seen the Mad King he had been locked up in the red keep. So by telling him the plan he went, and everyone could how Mad he really was. A public appearance said Moe to the Lord's then anything Rhaegar could have said!
A strong agruement. Well done.
Grayarea do you like your dragon eggs fried or fertilized?
He has to be from a royal family or the sorcerer couldn't have gotten a message from burning his bits and pieces in the fire.
I can't wait for part 2
Today it will be out today!
Good point about varys
Why would he only replace aegon and not rhaeney's too why would Elia only buy life for one child and not demand the life of both
Hasan Wilson exactly! As a mom of two, there’s no way I could save one and not the other. I also never understood that if this wasn’t Aegon why wasn’t Elia with Rhaenys?
Hasan Wilson because Aegon was the heir, so he was much more important. And because it’s not as hard to find a baby with similar features as it is to find a suitable double for a three year old child.
Yes Jamie, of Rhaegar and Viserayas. I was speaking of Rhaegars children, Jon is a half sibling of Rhaegars children and he believed one of his children was the prophecy was about. If Jon is ghe last hero, he could fufill the other profecy also
You think Aegon might actually decend from Aegor Rivers? Bittersteel married one of Daemons Blackfyre´s daughters and it is not clear if he had any children. Aegon´s mother could be a Bittersteel/Blackfyre wich would also explain the Golden Company support.
Especially a Dornish woman. She would definitely want to protect her daughter as well. I could see a last minute baby swap after tywin entered the city. He did counsel against it. That's as far as I will give it in my head
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The Brightfire or Brightfyre theory that is what it call. Now first it was suggest that Varys and Illyrio's wife Sarra are brother and sister. That child who is name Aegon is really Illyrio's and Sarra. That Sarra is from Blackfyre line. Ok sounds reasonable to me, my theory that Varys was always a bastard child of Aerion Brightfire/Brightflame Targaryen. He had a bunch of bastards in Lys. The question is who is Illyrio? The husband of Sarra who maybe a female line of Blackfyre. If you people look at the family line you realize that certain members of Targaryens of just disappear. Make it seems that Daenerys is the last.
Aegon VI had two sisters who seems to disappear from the history books the last we heard that both them were marry off to noble men. Aerion Targaryen had an trueborn son named Maegor the baby was pass over for Kingship. Where that baby? It is Illyrio. Varys and Illyrio's are brothers. At first I thinking they were nephew and uncle but I see 👀 the logic behind GRRM writing.
I wouldn't say that keeping Elia and the kids was a mad insurance scheme to stop the Dornish from joining the enemy.
He just using them the same was as wards. Taking wards is a common thing in the history of Westeros. The most obvious example is Theon, who was a ward to ensure the good behaviour of his father. I doubt anyone would call Robert or Ned 'mad', maybe other things but not mad.
I've ALWAYS wondered why he wouldn't want rhaegar on the throne as opposed to Aerys. Makes 0 sense. R was good kind and brave. Yes the 7K did well under robert but come on! Love the video! Ty ma:)
P.s. sent you a pm via twitter ik youre mad busy but if you could give it a read i appreciate it :):)