I have the folio touch and love it, it does add weight but the rubber edge and magnetic clip ensure the iPad and pencil are safe when transporting. The case does get grubby but is showing no sign out wear when working in engineering. For the price you can’t complain.
for me the more secured way to attach the pencil is a no brainer, and its cheaper, its ok for a slightly less performant and smaller trackpad. And not attachable means at least you won't lose the keyboard. Conclusion Folio touch. thanks man. Great video
I’ve tried SOOO many cases (kickstand type, hard shell laptop types, kickstand types, and others). Fact is there IS a real difference with a Smart Connector keyboard vs. Bluetooth (which means it’s down to Apple and Logitech if you’re a power user). Bluetooth Trackpad/keyboard cases can get buggy, lose connection randomly, and lack some responsiveness. Or the material shows wear badly. Having the Smart Connector and dedicated shortcut keys, plus Logitech’s masterful case material, the Combo Touch is really hard to beat it. The main issue with Logitech that I ran into started with the Folio Touch which had defective keys (#4 and #5) that popped off without warning. And I couldn’t get them to reattach. Logitech replaced it with another and the same thing happened again. Design flaw. Logitech thankfully replaced it with the Combo Touch which worked great for just over 2 years until the wiring in the flexible connector flap went bad a few weeks ago (just stopped responding). I don’t abuse my gear, but I do use my iPad and trackpad/keyboard case every day. Right now I’m using my first Folio Touch without a couple keys missing (which Logitech said I could keep) until I find another case I like. I’m trying one more before resigning myself to buy another Combo Touch. The good news is they now offer it in three colors instead of just one (at least for my iPad Pro 11, 3rd gen.).
I too have iPad Pro 11, 3rd gen, bought typecase keyboard but returned it because I was facing same issues which you mentioned as it was Bluetooth cases, now planning to buy Logitech Combo as I can remove keyboard whenever I want and there won’t be any lagging.
I've had 2 folio touches fail in the span of a year from my daughter's use, due to stress to the thin & flat embedded wire that connects the keyboard to the case.
I didn't know that the keyboard on the Combo Touch was able to disconnect from the back panel. Damn. Actually when I bought my iPad Air a couple years ago I went with a Speck Folio case and then I bought the Logitech MX Keys Mini as a keyboard solution. It works for me. I just never cared for having a keyboard case full time. If I do upgrade to another iPad down the road I might look at the Combo Touch again. Thank you for your thorough review. Subscribed!
I'm getting a Logitech combo touch. I want to be able to detach the keyboard, so that I can use the ipad in more ways and I have a mechanical bluetooth keyboard and a bluetooth mouse that I would prefer to use whenever I have the room to do so instead of the ones built into the case. The Folio Touch would get in the way of that because I wouldn't be able to remove it. I also prefer the inverted T shape for the arrow keys and to fully depress the mouse pad to click, but those are secondary reasons.
Nobody talks about the biggest downside to these keyboards, which is that when you fully extend the keyboard on a table it becomes really long. If you have any intention of using less than a full sized desk on this you wont be able to fully extend the kickstand, and have the keyboard out.
So what would you recommend? I need this for college use, and the tables are indeed quite short. I have an iPad air 5. I'll need to use software like R and SPSS, it seems pretty bad to use from an iPad air 5 with no keyboard(even with remote connection to my pc at home)
@@ledues3336 in the end the tables were long enough lol. I was able to use it on those small tables the same as one would use a laptop. In most cases I just didn't need a keyboard because It was math formulas and so on.
I used to use mine in the lap all the time. It was a little floppy but still possible. The real problem with the kick stand is that when you use it on a desk or table it makes the iPad really long. Like really really long. like way longer than a big MacBook Pro long. That’s the biggest downside to this style of keyboard. I use the iPad as my main personal device, so on the lap in my recliner or on my desk during my lunch break. I dont have a huge desk at work and when i would use this keyboard on lunch i would have to move my keyboard totally to the side and I wouldn’t really have enough to room to angle it with the keyboard attached without moving my iMac backwards by a couple inches. I started using the Smart Keyboard and now i can just push my keyboard back against the iMac and im good.
@@randyanderson2285 I had the same issue as well. The Magic Keyboard, or one of the 3rd party look-a-likes that connect via Bluetooth are a better choice for me. With the iPad Pro and Magic Keyboard getting a redesign next year, I don’t want to buy a new more expensive Magic Keyboard for the new iPad Pro, so I think I’m going to go the 3rd party keyboard route when it comes time to upgrade.
Here are the model numbers and compatibility. 📌 The Logitech Combo Touch works for the iPad Air 4 and iPad Air 5: geni.us/gqbRN4I 📌 The Logitech Folio Touch works for the iPad Air 4 and iPad Air 5: geni.us/wH7rU
I have the combo touch and after having for 2 years the soft protection on the side of the case has been slowly come off to the point that it has no protection on the side and personality for me the part that are coming off really bothers me.
1. Is the combo touch made by Logitech ? 2. I want the cloth one, not the one that looks like it’s cloth but it’s more like rubber (do you know where I can find this?) I want the combo touch
I didn’t even realize there were two options for the Logitech keyboards until this video popped up. I recently bought mine and was confused on why I didn’t have a little flap to protect my apple pencil like advertised for the folio touch. Oh well though, turns out I LOVE the combo touch so much more- especially because of the detachable keyboard. It’s way more appealing to my needs as carrying my iPad on its own without the keyboard is much more comfortable than being forced to carry it with the keyboard attached the back. Decent tradeoff for removing the flap! Happy accidents happen, I am satisfied with my purchase
Well, if no photos, videos, games and apps with huge storage consumptions - yes. But constantly cleaning ipad. Best at least 128gb and I personally recommend 256
Which one is better for gaming? Bought the portfolio, but we can’t seem to set the external accessibility keys since it’s not Bluetooth. So for my son who wants to have a keyboard to play Roblox, am I missing a setting? Is the Apple keyboard Bluetooth that would allow for external accessibility settings??
Is there a way to disable just the track pad? I love the keyboard feature, but don’t want to deal with the trackpad accidentally relocating my cursor when I accidentally hit the pad. Thanks for this great comparison!
I have an iPad Pro, and the keyboard folio touch, recently my keyboard has stopped working out of no where. From one day to another it stopped typing. Ive had it for a bit over a year now, snd its been two weeks now im unsure how I can fix this? Since I know it connects to the back of the iPad, nothing shoes up on my settings, anyone happen to know what happened or what I can do? 😢
I lowkey wished that my keyboard would use power from my ipad so that i didn’t have to charge it, but the battery lasts *very long* (depending on the usage) and it doesn’t take too long to charge so im fine
Nice review. But…. In time the Logitech will get broken…. The problem is the flat-cable on the inside near the hinge in the keyboard part. Opening/closing the case will result (
does anyone know if the combo touch can do a good sketching angle? I know the folio touch can flip so the keyboard is behind the iPad and reach a perfect sketch angle but i’m wondering if the combo touch can do the same?
I don’t have it (Checking reviews because I’m planning to get it) but I’ve seen that you can detach the Combo so it’s only the case and not with the keyboard, so it’s more comfortable to sketch and just use as an iPad and not like a “laptop” (with the keyboard attached)
Folio touch This is one of the most uncomfortable keyboards and cases. Heavy, sharp edges when it lies on your feet, when you hold it vertically or horizontally the grip is uncomfortable because you have to hold the keyboard buttons, bulky because the case is thick when you fold it and that's also why it's hard to hold. Why don't you guys even talk about such things just testing it in one mode, typing and when it is lying on the desk?
Oh why did I wait so long to replace my ancient iPad? th-cam.com/users/postUgkxhcEDB3r-OJ3_X5hQzr7k1ZofTQy1ao_U This is a perfect size with perfect features. Like all my Apple products I am able to intuitively navigate my way around. I like the fingerprint button, though I have to update it from time to time. I purchased a bluetooth keyboard so I can use this to write more easily. And the price was outstanding. I take my iPad with me everywhere. It's my buddy.
I like my magic keyboard because I can use it on my lap, where the Logitech ones can't. If that difference wasn't there, I would probably own a Logitech one. I am still looking for more ways to use the iPad so I can use my iphone less and maybe even less macbook use.
I think that's subjective really. For me, it would be the Logitech Combo Touch as it is so versatile. I love that you can remove the keyboard whilst still having the protection of the ipad and I love the kickstand. I had the Combo Touch for the iPad 9th gen. I now have one on order for the iPad Air 5th gen. Expensive, yes but, in my humble opinion, it offers better value for money and suits my needs perfectly. You have to look at what you need and how much you are willing to spend. All three keyboard cases offer pros and cons.
I have the Folio Touch for my 11" iPad Pro and I love it, until, after about a year of heavy use the keyboard just stopped working due to several reasons, one being liquid spill, but until there it was absolutely great, also it is not available in Portuguese, which is the keyboard I'm used to. But I am going to order the Combo Touch in Italian, which is the closest to the portuguese keyboard I could find, and I love the idea of the detachable keyboard, though one thing I wish they had, is a keyboardless screen cover that also attaches like the keyboard does but is much more lightweight, for days where I don't need a keyboard and want to be a bit lighter but still want my screen covered when needed.
Please don’t buy this. After two years no one cares. Even Logitech can’t do anything. 12k damn it! It worked for me just two years. That’s it. Don’t buy pls.
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Combo Touch was almost perfect for me. I wish it had the magnetic closure to secure the apple pencil.
That's litterarly the only reason I went with the Folio Touch
the magnet strong enough imo
@@Throwaway_4928 But if it’s in a bag it could go tumbling around inside
I have the folio touch and love it, it does add weight but the rubber edge and magnetic clip ensure the iPad and pencil are safe when transporting. The case does get grubby but is showing no sign out wear when working in engineering. For the price you can’t complain.
for me the more secured way to attach the pencil is a no brainer, and its cheaper, its ok for a slightly less performant and smaller trackpad. And not attachable means at least you won't lose the keyboard. Conclusion Folio touch. thanks man. Great video
⏰Timestamps ⌚
[00:00] - 01 - Start
[00:29] - 02 - The Problem
[01:41] - 03 - The Similarities
[04:47] - 04 - The Differences
[08:00] - 05 - How to Choose
[09:20] - 06 - Magic Keyboard
[09:59] - 07 - Final Recommendation
I’ve tried SOOO many cases (kickstand type, hard shell laptop types, kickstand types, and others). Fact is there IS a real difference with a Smart Connector keyboard vs. Bluetooth (which means it’s down to Apple and Logitech if you’re a power user). Bluetooth Trackpad/keyboard cases can get buggy, lose connection randomly, and lack some responsiveness. Or the material shows wear badly. Having the Smart Connector and dedicated shortcut keys, plus Logitech’s masterful case material, the Combo Touch is really hard to beat it. The main issue with Logitech that I ran into started with the Folio Touch which had defective keys (#4 and #5) that popped off without warning. And I couldn’t get them to reattach. Logitech replaced it with another and the same thing happened again. Design flaw. Logitech thankfully replaced it with the Combo Touch which worked great for just over 2 years until the wiring in the flexible connector flap went bad a few weeks ago (just stopped responding). I don’t abuse my gear, but I do use my iPad and trackpad/keyboard case every day. Right now I’m using my first Folio Touch without a couple keys missing (which Logitech said I could keep) until I find another case I like. I’m trying one more before resigning myself to buy another Combo Touch. The good news is they now offer it in three colors instead of just one (at least for my iPad Pro 11, 3rd gen.).
I too have iPad Pro 11, 3rd gen, bought typecase keyboard but returned it because I was facing same issues which you mentioned as it was Bluetooth cases, now planning to buy Logitech Combo as I can remove keyboard whenever I want and there won’t be any lagging.
I've had 2 folio touches fail in the span of a year from my daughter's use, due to stress to the thin & flat embedded wire that connects the keyboard to the case.
Same for me…and now no support from Logitech distributors in Thailand😢
I didn't know that the keyboard on the Combo Touch was able to disconnect from the back panel. Damn. Actually when I bought my iPad Air a couple years ago I went with a Speck Folio case and then I bought the Logitech MX Keys Mini as a keyboard solution. It works for me. I just never cared for having a keyboard case full time.
If I do upgrade to another iPad down the road I might look at the Combo Touch again. Thank you for your thorough review. Subscribed!
I'm getting a Logitech combo touch. I want to be able to detach the keyboard, so that I can use the ipad in more ways and I have a mechanical bluetooth keyboard and a bluetooth mouse that I would prefer to use whenever I have the room to do so instead of the ones built into the case. The Folio Touch would get in the way of that because I wouldn't be able to remove it. I also prefer the inverted T shape for the arrow keys and to fully depress the mouse pad to click, but those are secondary reasons.
You're just alike
I you want to "remove" the keyboard on the folio touch you can just fold it back, but I can imagine that being annoying
Nobody talks about the biggest downside to these keyboards, which is that when you fully extend the keyboard on a table it becomes really long.
If you have any intention of using less than a full sized desk on this you wont be able to fully extend the kickstand, and have the keyboard out.
So what would you recommend? I need this for college use, and the tables are indeed quite short. I have an iPad air 5. I'll need to use software like R and SPSS, it seems pretty bad to use from an iPad air 5 with no keyboard(even with remote connection to my pc at home)
@@yuval1168 are you me? Our use case is the same down to the details! Did you ever figure out a way?
@@ledues3336 in the end the tables were long enough lol. I was able to use it on those small tables the same as one would use a laptop. In most cases I just didn't need a keyboard because It was math formulas and so on.
Here its 550 euro for ipad 2022 64gb wifi and apple sells the magic keyboard for 300. like wtf?
Wow, that's expensive.
Do they work with the new 11 inch ipad air 6?
Probably
The problem is the kickstand. If you use the iPad on your lap when typing, it becomes unusable...
For both versions?
Correct
I used to use mine in the lap all the time. It was a little floppy but still possible. The real problem with the kick stand is that when you use it on a desk or table it makes the iPad really long. Like really really long. like way longer than a big MacBook Pro long.
That’s the biggest downside to this style of keyboard.
I use the iPad as my main personal device, so on the lap in my recliner or on my desk during my lunch break. I dont have a huge desk at work and when i would use this keyboard on lunch i would have to move my keyboard totally to the side and I wouldn’t really have enough to room to angle it with the keyboard attached without moving my iMac backwards by a couple inches.
I started using the Smart Keyboard and now i can just push my keyboard back against the iMac and im good.
@@randyanderson2285 I had the same issue as well. The Magic Keyboard, or one of the 3rd party look-a-likes that connect via Bluetooth are a better choice for me. With the iPad Pro and Magic Keyboard getting a redesign next year, I don’t want to buy a new more expensive Magic Keyboard for the new iPad Pro, so I think I’m going to go the 3rd party keyboard route when it comes time to upgrade.
Who still use something on their lap? lol
do these case/keyboards fit BOTH the iPad Air 4 as well as the iPad Air 5?
Here are the model numbers and compatibility.
📌 The Logitech Combo Touch works for the iPad Air 4 and iPad Air 5: geni.us/gqbRN4I
📌 The Logitech Folio Touch works for the iPad Air 4 and iPad Air 5: geni.us/wH7rU
Thank for the review. Very helpful
Glad it was helpful!
I have the combo touch and after having for 2 years the soft protection on the side of the case has been slowly come off to the point that it has no protection on the side and personality for me the part that are coming off really bothers me.
1. Is the combo touch made by Logitech ?
2. I want the cloth one, not the one that looks like it’s cloth but it’s more like rubber (do you know where I can find this?) I want the combo touch
I didn’t even realize there were two options for the Logitech keyboards until this video popped up. I recently bought mine and was confused on why I didn’t have a little flap to protect my apple pencil like advertised for the folio touch. Oh well though, turns out I LOVE the combo touch so much more- especially because of the detachable keyboard. It’s way more appealing to my needs as carrying my iPad on its own without the keyboard is much more comfortable than being forced to carry it with the keyboard attached the back. Decent tradeoff for removing the flap! Happy accidents happen, I am satisfied with my purchase
Is the ipad worth working on if it has 64GB?
U can buy icloud for a cheap price so probably
Well, if no photos, videos, games and apps with huge storage consumptions - yes. But constantly cleaning ipad.
Best at least 128gb and I personally recommend 256
Go for 256 Gb if you can afford it
I got a new 64 for 350 plenty for me but I don’t take a lot of photos or download videos
do these cases fold all the way back if i dont want to use the keyoard and just the tablet ?
yes
Mine is combo touch, expensive but poor quality, the rubber edges mostly peel off and get damaged after more than a year of use
is that available 2 fingers tap for secondary click (right click) on those trackpad?
Which one is better for gaming? Bought the portfolio, but we can’t seem to set the external accessibility keys since it’s not Bluetooth. So for my son who wants to have a keyboard to play Roblox, am I missing a setting? Is the Apple keyboard Bluetooth that would allow for external accessibility settings??
Thank you, great Video!
Is there a way to disable just the track pad? I love the keyboard feature, but don’t want to deal with the trackpad accidentally relocating my cursor when I accidentally hit the pad. Thanks for this great comparison!
Unfortunately not.
I have an iPad Pro, and the keyboard folio touch, recently my keyboard has stopped working out of no where. From one day to another it stopped typing. Ive had it for a bit over a year now, snd its been two weeks now im unsure how I can fix this? Since I know it connects to the back of the iPad, nothing shoes up on my settings, anyone happen to know what happened or what I can do? 😢
Is the keyboard up to date, plus check for dirt on the 3 connectors
I’ve had two folios fail on me in 12 months,..connection breaks easily & irrepairable😢
I lowkey wished that my keyboard would use power from my ipad so that i didn’t have to charge it, but the battery lasts *very long* (depending on the usage) and it doesn’t take too long to charge so im fine
Nice review. But…. In time the Logitech will get broken…. The problem is the flat-cable on the inside near the hinge in the keyboard part. Opening/closing the case will result (
Thank you for this just bought my first Apple Product and this is exactly what u needed. Blessings 💜
I chose the Combo Touch back in September 2022 when I bought the Air 5. I use a similar pencil sleeve.
After a year, whats your experience with the combo touch?
Hello I have the combo touch and the magic key board (yes I have 2 ipads) and they are so awesome.
combo is perfect for me. feels more premium than folio touch. being able to detach the keyboard is huge for me.
does anyone know if the combo touch can do a good sketching angle? I know the folio touch can flip so the keyboard is behind the iPad and reach a perfect sketch angle but i’m wondering if the combo touch can do the same?
I don’t have it (Checking reviews because I’m planning to get it) but I’ve seen that you can detach the Combo so it’s only the case and not with the keyboard, so it’s more comfortable to sketch and just use as an iPad and not like a “laptop” (with the keyboard attached)
Folio touch This is one of the most uncomfortable keyboards and cases. Heavy, sharp edges when it lies on your feet, when you hold it vertically or horizontally the grip is uncomfortable because you have to hold the keyboard buttons, bulky because the case is thick when you fold it and that's also why it's hard to hold. Why don't you guys even talk about such things just testing it in one mode, typing and when it is lying on the desk?
I think you said the combo detaches then you said the folio...
at the local middle school each child has a gen 9 regular ipad, with a logitech case, but no keyboard.
Is possible if i use logitech combo touch keyboard on Ipad Pro 12.9" M2? Is there any different between M1 and M2?
Oh why did I wait so long to replace my ancient iPad? th-cam.com/users/postUgkxhcEDB3r-OJ3_X5hQzr7k1ZofTQy1ao_U This is a perfect size with perfect features. Like all my Apple products I am able to intuitively navigate my way around. I like the fingerprint button, though I have to update it from time to time. I purchased a bluetooth keyboard so I can use this to write more easily. And the price was outstanding. I take my iPad with me everywhere. It's my buddy.
I like my magic keyboard because I can use it on my lap, where the Logitech ones can't. If that difference wasn't there, I would probably own a Logitech one.
I am still looking for more ways to use the iPad so I can use my iphone less and maybe even less macbook use.
So, who's the winner of your favorite keyboard?
I think that's subjective really. For me, it would be the Logitech Combo Touch as it is so versatile. I love that you can remove the keyboard whilst still having the protection of the ipad and I love the kickstand. I had the Combo Touch for the iPad 9th gen. I now have one on order for the iPad Air 5th gen. Expensive, yes but, in my humble opinion, it offers better value for money and suits my needs perfectly. You have to look at what you need and how much you are willing to spend. All three keyboard cases offer pros and cons.
I have the Folio Touch for my 11" iPad Pro and I love it, until, after about a year of heavy use the keyboard just stopped working due to several reasons, one being liquid spill, but until there it was absolutely great, also it is not available in Portuguese, which is the keyboard I'm used to. But I am going to order the Combo Touch in Italian, which is the closest to the portuguese keyboard I could find, and I love the idea of the detachable keyboard, though one thing I wish they had, is a keyboardless screen cover that also attaches like the keyboard does but is much more lightweight, for days where I don't need a keyboard and want to be a bit lighter but still want my screen covered when needed.
@@amandawright1372 How’s the weight of the combo touch?
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I regret getting the Magic Keyboard so much
What did you buy?
@@ItsCaputo a Magic Keyboard
The way you put it like that, with the 9 or 12 cents a day doesn’t make much sense. That way we could justify almost any product’s price.
Okay, if you say so.
“It’s girl math!” He said 😂
i think its the combo touch
All video I was struggling to understand which case combo and which folio...
Folio Touch has is held together with a strap with the Combo Touch doesn't have a stop
Who wants dirty germ carpet on their iPad?
the problem is 400 euro or 202 euro :D
obviously combo touch because keyboard is detachable
Please don’t buy this. After two years no one cares. Even Logitech can’t do anything. 12k damn it! It worked for me just two years. That’s it. Don’t buy pls.
Dude no front but please cut your nails especially for that kind of videos
well im the first to comment