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My insight for tank specs that I have gotten keystone hero this season with for people who care: Blood DK- probably one of the most fun specs out there with out you literally don't even need a healer. Once you can set up a pull where you start with no runic power then you're pretty much unkillable. The big issue is it's utility compared to other tank specs. Vengeance DH- not as fun as building up big absorbs and healing yourself up as Blood Dk but the survivability of vengeance revolves around basic damage mitigation from your abilities. The best part about this spec besides being unkillable during Meta is the usage of your sigils having near-unlimited utility as well as doing slightly less or as much as aoe dps as most dps specs
I have played all tanks to a okay level 20 keys and some upwards, My main is Brewmaster and I will say its the most fun tank out of them all for me, plays much different from the other tanks in the game such a blast pushing keys and getting past 3k rio on it. Just think it needs its tier set tunning a bit more compared to the other tanks. Second has to be prot pally also a lot of fun to play just from the toolkit alone that's insane and throwing hammers is always fun, also you can mog and be like captain America throwing shields.
Warrior is a blast. It doesn’t have the tank utility of other tanks, and it is harder to control mobs in some situations. Yes the DPS part is simple, but one could say the same thing about silencing with sigils and avengers shield / divine toll being “easy” vs warrior when it comes to situational mob control.
Blood Dk - Love it Brewmaster - I LOVE THE BLOAT Vengeance - lets me play like a mad man Prot Warrior - Makes me feel helpless Prot Pala - Feel like the pope on steroids Bear - 1,2,3,1,2,3 if you know you know
Subjective opinion but brewmaster is Stier for me, once muscle memory is down the button bloat is not an issue, and the surprisingly good self healing is a treat on top of the damage. Also it can handle the spirit affixes with paralyze and detox if the group is incompetent, feels so good to be able to do a lot
100% facts; I was new to brewmaster a few weeks ago but after watching a guide and playing around with it in open world/low mythics, it feels amazing! The button bloat doesnt feel like bloat anymore (aside from rushing jade wind) and i love how blackout kick empowers your next ability allowing you to choose which ability should be empowered for that specific moment. Absolute S tier
I love Brew - its a nice spec but I think the tree is like trash: mostly its a decision between DMG or DMG and beeing more tanky as brew costs way to much points which you wont have. Blizz should rework Monk and Hunter next
I started tanking this season with Brewmaster, I love the staggering mechanic and overall Monk vibes, but after trying Paladin... woww.... Paladins are much easier and fun to play. With brewmaster it takes so much effort for such little reward, it's missing something idk what but hope they do something about it :)
Brew button bloat solution- spec into Press the Advantage, spec out of rjw and diffuse magic if you want, macro rsk to something else (I macro'd it to purifying brew), done. I do not understand the button bloat thing, brwm has always been a spinning plates tank, high apm. Sure it has more keybinds than protwarr, who doesn't?
Played every tank except warrior this season in m+, brewmaster is the one that keeps me going in high keys. Didn't think that way at first after coming back to the game, I hated it, but the class feels like a russian nesting doll with more and more layers and I started to love it the most. I need that high skill ceiling stay interested in a class but it's not for everyone. Disagree with the video a little, it's survival that you can really optimise not just damage. Especially with the talents that give you control to push the risk-reward aspect of the class. The only skill I really miss on brew is some form of death grip.
Only reason I haven’t made vengeance (besides being new and not knowing about it earlier) is it just doesn’t look like a tank… just hit 70 with DK, monk and vengeance only ones to go. Currently loving the DK, but I’m with you on warrior being so fun. No idea about it being dumbed down, but definitely agree you look like a boss.
The death and decay procc technically doesn’t give resources (at least not more than usual). It just offsets the fact that a free DnD doesn’t spend a rune, and thus not giving any RP.
my personal favourite tank is guardian (although not meta at the moment), even if I don't get accepted into keys sometimes - I still have a blast playing bear with the brez and invis :D
Them giving brez with engi is still a bad move. Let’s people have their (more or less) unique utility. Or let them all have everything. Not this wishy washy.
Playing blood I feel like a bad ass because I can solo almost anything in the game. Playing prot pally I feel like a badass because I can carry entire groups through dungeons with 50+ interrupts in a single run on top of blessings of freedom and sacrifice and protection and word of glory to throw on my group. Pally also deals with affixes well. Afflicted? Dispell one, heal the other. You can solo that affix. Incorporeal? Turn evil one of them. There’s so much you can do to help your group and carry them through content they are struggling with that you can’t do on other tanks. Brewmaster feels fun because of the mobility but I wish it had more defensives. Also I hate having to sit through stuns. Pally and blood both have a way to get out of stuns, charms, roots.. why doesn’t brewmaster get something like that?
I solo tindral on heroic for my guild and my hp never moves tried soloing fyrakk but the hp actually moves so I had a dps switch to tank lol blood dk is silly
I personally prefer guardian or vengeance Dh. The play styles are pretty mobile and they deal insane damage on top of good defensives and short GCD. Just my personal opinion. Warrior is probably my least fav just because there’s nothing really cool about the class. It does pretty decent damage but other than that I’d pick a different class for tanking
They trully are. Now here's someone I haven't seen in a looooooooong time :) Dmachine! Hope you are well buddy, I still remember 2011 - 2012 when ret paladin pvp videos were you, savix and me :)))))
Why, outside of a very few cases in very high fortified keys you never have to look at their frames ever. You can even ignore mit debuff on them to dispel. If they are not reducing healing, the dont matter. Or are you telling me you have fun healing tanks? If your DK tank needs healing he didn’t know how to play. The only thing you need to learn is to give externals BEFORE dangerous pulls/moments not after.
I tanked with bear and prot warrior all xpac. Recently main switched to monk and brewmaster is so much more fun! So much dps and I don’t feel that much bloat honestly, I was comfortable with tanking +15 keys after having only tanked 3 dungeons
You do start to feel the bloat in higher keys. You need to use all of your abilities properly and cohesively to survive while doing damage. +15s this season are not that challenging which is why you could tank them easily after 3 keys.
@@guypoulin6929 imo thats what makes it fun ....for me, having the intricacy of that particular class makes me enjoy it a ton more than just straight up press button to get tanky class
Interesting, recently came back been maining pally and enjoying it specially in m+ and looking for an alt was thinking on blood, but everytime i log and see my prot warr it calls to me, will give a shot over the weekend
once i got used to blood, there is just no other tank quite like it. You literally dont need a healer, you can completely ignore mechanics that others have to be annoyed by and then just grip stuff. Oh and when you get used to the flow of things, deathgrip can act as a sudo interrupt too. I used to not enjoy it, but damn am i liking it now. The main issue is incorp. on bear, if both incorps go off. i can press 3 defensives all together and survive. on DK, its gg. and you dont have defensives for it
I swear there used to be a glyph for this in an older expansion and the QoL improvement was incredible. I'd love to have it back due to how punishing being out of conc is, especially with how much kiting is involved these days
I feel the opposite about brm and vdh. I like the idea of vdh just can’t get into the play style. I really like the brm play style just not the biggest fan of the monk aesthetics
Demon Hunter has the fewest keybinds in combination with the most utility & highest passive surviability(just rotate your buttons for passive tankiness
The Pingpong tank in A ? What is fun about a tank that is 1/2 time at 30% than up to 100 than doen to 30 again …. That is no fun , blood was a fun class waaaaay back but now a days ist just a dps that think it can tank ..
What is your problem? it might bounce but it’s not dying (if you are not having the reaction time of a zombie). I’d rather bounce now and again instead of seeing my slow demise dying on a monk or warrior. BLOOD DK is the most fun tank by a mile if not spec in general.
I know it’s fun and it’s all subjective but prot warrior S tier fun ? No way, it’s the most boring tank to play, lots of buttons that all do the same and even if you press them all a dot or bleed will kill you. If you don’t have a good healer you will feel it. The main fun part is mobility, charging and leaping is fun, spell reflect is okey. But dmg rotation, grouping mobs, urki tiu are totally crap and o got bored after maybe 10 keys to the point where I’m not touching prot warrior as it’s the most boring useless tank in game😉
Fair points and I respect that! I don't like it's simplicity either (think I mentioned it) but I dunno its just something about Prot warrior that tickles my fun senses regardless of very solid / logical arguments. Have to admit a total bias here as well :)
@@MarcelianOnline would love if they would through hero talents make possibility of Prot warrior to be as a general commander, buffing allies with shouts, banners and so on. Blizzard had to great ideas - one was shield wall to give dmg res to all party in last season of SL - it should really come back - then you were actually protecting someone- now it feels as protection is a meme name it can barely protect itself let alone anyone else. Second cool thing was mass grip on leap - would also make it more fun. Both those thing were removed for whatever reason and prot is a great fantasy blend vanilla gameplay tank which doesn’t do much outside of aggro mobs😉
Prot paladin actually protects. Does warrior eve have his intercede ability anymore? Maybe its not called that, but you probably know which one im asking about. Charge on ally
These "most fun" videos need to stop. EVERYTHING in Wow is competitive. Fun becomes unfun when your class is struggling. I see what you are trying to do but it's quite pointless in my opinion so I rarely watch these types of videos.
hate to break it to you but alot of people still play wow for fun. Not everyone is tied to one specific class/spec and with the nature of balancing/tier sets; people want to see which specs came out on top in terms of overall design, playstyle, effectiveness, and FUN
@@friezeray A lot of people? You mean the remaining player base. The game is dying. Even TH-cam Wow channels are shrinking in views because people are just not interested anymore. But I get your point. I have every class at level 70 because leveling and trying new classes and specs is the most fun thing to do in the game because the end game is truly awful.
Unless you're a hard-core Mythic First racer or pushing keys over 20 you can 100% play for fun. Meta chasing is for those who play as a job/sport and those who wish they were half that good.
@@mattb896 That's not true at all. Choosing the meta vs choosing what fun could mean +2 to your key just by choosing stronger classes. Also, people always try to emulate the meta. " those who wish they were half that good" that's like 90 percent of the player base bro.
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i honestly play prot pally for the aesthetic value. and i love whipping shields around 24/7.
The best thing in WoW tbh, the visual, the sounds, the impact just muah chef's kiss
That’s what keeps me from playing it. Aesthetic and especially sound design is so bad. And the rotation is sooo Boring.
My insight for tank specs that I have gotten keystone hero this season with for people who care:
Blood DK- probably one of the most fun specs out there with out you literally don't even need a healer. Once you can set up a pull where you start with no runic power then you're pretty much unkillable. The big issue is it's utility compared to other tank specs.
Vengeance DH- not as fun as building up big absorbs and healing yourself up as Blood Dk but the survivability of vengeance revolves around basic damage mitigation from your abilities. The best part about this spec besides being unkillable during Meta is the usage of your sigils having near-unlimited utility as well as doing slightly less or as much as aoe dps as most dps specs
I have played all tanks to a okay level 20 keys and some upwards, My main is Brewmaster and I will say its the most fun tank out of them all for me, plays much different from the other tanks in the game such a blast pushing keys and getting past 3k rio on it. Just think it needs its tier set tunning a bit more compared to the other tanks. Second has to be prot pally also a lot of fun to play just from the toolkit alone that's insane and throwing hammers is always fun, also you can mog and be like captain America throwing shields.
Warrior is a blast. It doesn’t have the tank utility of other tanks, and it is harder to control mobs in some situations. Yes the DPS part is simple, but one could say the same thing about silencing with sigils and avengers shield / divine toll being “easy” vs warrior when it comes to situational mob control.
Blood Dk - Love it
Brewmaster - I LOVE THE BLOAT
Vengeance - lets me play like a mad man
Prot Warrior - Makes me feel helpless
Prot Pala - Feel like the pope on steroids
Bear - 1,2,3,1,2,3 if you know you know
Let me and try to solve the bear riddle (havent played it since Legion) thrash-swipe-ironfur?
@@friezeray basically that, its fun when starting tank as a newbie but boring later on
Subjective opinion but brewmaster is Stier for me, once muscle memory is down the button bloat is not an issue, and the surprisingly good self healing is a treat on top of the damage. Also it can handle the spirit affixes with paralyze and detox if the group is incompetent, feels so good to be able to do a lot
100% facts; I was new to brewmaster a few weeks ago but after watching a guide and playing around with it in open world/low mythics, it feels amazing! The button bloat doesnt feel like bloat anymore (aside from rushing jade wind) and i love how blackout kick empowers your next ability allowing you to choose which ability should be empowered for that specific moment. Absolute S tier
Agreed. I use macros to bind cast sequences / rotations to a single button, and the button bloat issue is non-existent.
I love Brew - its a nice spec but I think the tree is like trash: mostly its a decision between DMG or DMG and beeing more tanky as brew costs way to much points which you wont have. Blizz should rework Monk and Hunter next
@zhafranTP what macro binds do you use for brewmastet
I started tanking this season with Brewmaster, I love the staggering mechanic and overall Monk vibes, but after trying Paladin... woww.... Paladins are much easier and fun to play. With brewmaster it takes so much effort for such little reward, it's missing something idk what but hope they do something about it :)
felt similar with brew as well, probably the hardest tank to play still. I guess the reward is giga damage but not a real tank thing for me 😀
Brew button bloat solution- spec into Press the Advantage, spec out of rjw and diffuse magic if you want, macro rsk to something else (I macro'd it to purifying brew), done. I do not understand the button bloat thing, brwm has always been a spinning plates tank, high apm. Sure it has more keybinds than protwarr, who doesn't?
You've just inspired me to finally spec out of rjw.. i hate that pointless ability
Played every tank except warrior this season in m+, brewmaster is the one that keeps me going in high keys.
Didn't think that way at first after coming back to the game, I hated it, but the class feels like a russian nesting doll with more and more layers and I started to love it the most.
I need that high skill ceiling stay interested in a class but it's not for everyone.
Disagree with the video a little, it's survival that you can really optimise not just damage. Especially with the talents that give you control to push the risk-reward aspect of the class.
The only skill I really miss on brew is some form of death grip.
Clash has the potential to be as useful as deathgrip, but losing your biggest DR to get a 30sec great-value warrior charge isnt worth it :(
Only reason I haven’t made vengeance (besides being new and not knowing about it earlier) is it just doesn’t look like a tank… just hit 70 with DK, monk and vengeance only ones to go. Currently loving the DK, but I’m with you on warrior being so fun. No idea about it being dumbed down, but definitely agree you look like a boss.
The death and decay procc technically doesn’t give resources (at least not more than usual). It just offsets the fact that a free DnD doesn’t spend a rune, and thus not giving any RP.
Blood dk was my first class and spec the fantasy of it got me into wow.
That's great, you still playing it?
my personal favourite tank is guardian (although not meta at the moment), even if I don't get accepted into keys sometimes - I still have a blast playing bear with the brez and invis :D
Them giving brez with engi is still a bad move. Let’s people have their (more or less) unique utility. Or let them all have everything. Not this wishy washy.
@@normannseils3936what is engi?
Playing blood I feel like a bad ass because I can solo almost anything in the game. Playing prot pally I feel like a badass because I can carry entire groups through dungeons with 50+ interrupts in a single run on top of blessings of freedom and sacrifice and protection and word of glory to throw on my group. Pally also deals with affixes well. Afflicted? Dispell one, heal the other. You can solo that affix. Incorporeal? Turn evil one of them. There’s so much you can do to help your group and carry them through content they are struggling with that you can’t do on other tanks. Brewmaster feels fun because of the mobility but I wish it had more defensives. Also I hate having to sit through stuns. Pally and blood both have a way to get out of stuns, charms, roots.. why doesn’t brewmaster get something like that?
13:31 lol
I solo tindral on heroic for my guild and my hp never moves tried soloing fyrakk but the hp actually moves so I had a dps switch to tank lol blood dk is silly
Part of the charm I would say :)
I personally prefer guardian or vengeance Dh. The play styles are pretty mobile and they deal insane damage on top of good defensives and short GCD. Just my personal opinion. Warrior is probably my least fav just because there’s nothing really cool about the class. It does pretty decent damage but other than that I’d pick a different class for tanking
The way i can carry a pug on a prot pally is something i just cant find on any other tank. Thats why its my favorite. :)
i love how ikedit trailers has become the defacto broll of m+ content, their sooo good
They trully are. Now here's someone I haven't seen in a looooooooong time :) Dmachine! Hope you are well buddy, I still remember 2011 - 2012 when ret paladin pvp videos were you, savix and me :)))))
I’ve come to love Prot pally so much I consider it a second main. The aesthetics, the sounds, the simplicity of its rotations…it’s the best!
as a healer, I can tell you DK's are the least fun to play with
Why, outside of a very few cases in very high fortified keys you never have to look at their frames ever. You can even ignore mit debuff on them to dispel. If they are not reducing healing, the dont matter. Or are you telling me you have fun healing tanks? If your DK tank needs healing he didn’t know how to play. The only thing you need to learn is to give externals BEFORE dangerous pulls/moments not after.
Tried out DH for the movement from BDK. Went back to BDK bc fun
Totally agree with this list. I WANT to like Pally better, but it just isn't it. Warrior is a lot of fun, but VDH is just as fun and better.
vengeance is dangerous 😂
For me prot paladin is the most fun and visually cool. Monk tank is fun with all the buttons but visually it’s kind of silly
the cool part on blood dk is, it doesnt matter if you tank +11 or +24 it feels the same.
No, in 24 your group keeps dying 😂
I just picked up bear and I’m kinda wishing that their interupts had shorter cds
I tanked with bear and prot warrior all xpac. Recently main switched to monk and brewmaster is so much more fun! So much dps and I don’t feel that much bloat honestly, I was comfortable with tanking +15 keys after having only tanked 3 dungeons
that’s great man, glad ppl enjoy monk more than I 💪
You do start to feel the bloat in higher keys. You need to use all of your abilities properly and cohesively to survive while doing damage. +15s this season are not that challenging which is why you could tank them easily after 3 keys.
@@guypoulin6929 yeah that makes sense
@@chrisl0334 with that said I love Brew and highly recommend sticking with it
@@guypoulin6929 imo thats what makes it fun ....for me, having the intricacy of that particular class makes me enjoy it a ton more than just straight up press button to get tanky class
Interesting, recently came back been maining pally and enjoying it specially in m+ and looking for an alt was thinking on blood, but everytime i log and see my prot warr it calls to me, will give a shot over the weekend
go for it, war is a guilty pleasure 😅
once i got used to blood, there is just no other tank quite like it. You literally dont need a healer, you can completely ignore mechanics that others have to be annoyed by and then just grip stuff. Oh and when you get used to the flow of things, deathgrip can act as a sudo interrupt too. I used to not enjoy it, but damn am i liking it now. The main issue is incorp. on bear, if both incorps go off. i can press 3 defensives all together and survive. on DK, its gg. and you dont have defensives for it
Thank you for the tank content, love you guys
The ranks are strong within this one.
Thank you :)
Blizzard needs to allow consecration to move with the Pally like it does in Ascension Wow!!
I swear there used to be a glyph for this in an older expansion and the QoL improvement was incredible. I'd love to have it back due to how punishing being out of conc is, especially with how much kiting is involved these days
I prefered the glyph that made with work like DnD in WoD. That was great.
Hi, nice vid, can you link pls your plater nameplates?
Do a video about rotation addons yours is so clean and working well,
we don’t use rotation addons 😅
I have use zygor years since MoP :D
RIP me watching this video preparing to level a new monk up tanking dungeons to tank for the first time ever
You should try to reupload the same video from 10.1 or something like this to see if anyone is noticing. :D
What? Only people who don't play wouldn't notice.
I mean, jokes aside, there have been lots of changes to them since 10.1, from reworks to tier sets to tuning :) We believe our audience is smart :)
@@MarcelianOnline 100%! Love your vids and love your tier lists!
I get to learn about fun tanks today?!? It must be TGI FRIYAAAAAAAAY
Brewmaster is badass lol
Prot paladin should be in the S tier with Prot warrior
I feel the opposite about brm and vdh. I like the idea of vdh just can’t get into the play style. I really like the brm play style just not the biggest fan of the monk aesthetics
What is an easy tank for +15 as I am beginner? I dont want to track much buffs/debuffs and have an eay rotation. Pala is too much with its cooldowns
Demon Hunter has the fewest keybinds in combination with the most utility & highest passive surviability(just rotate your buttons for passive tankiness
Tack!
Maybe we will get a DK rework someday 🙏
We're all praying tbh
Out side of more and better accessible utility and rebalancing very weak talents I don’t feel the need for a rework.
This list is backwards lol. As someone who has played all tanks, brewmaster and warrior need to be swapped.
The Pingpong tank in A ? What is fun about a tank that is 1/2 time at 30% than up to 100 than doen to 30 again …. That is no fun , blood was a fun class waaaaay back but now a days ist just a dps that think it can tank ..
What is your problem? it might bounce but it’s not dying (if you are not having the reaction time of a zombie). I’d rather bounce now and again instead of seeing my slow demise dying on a monk or warrior. BLOOD DK is the most fun tank by a mile if not spec in general.
RJW is my favourite spell in the game, leave it alone
omg you capping 😂😂
I having touched that spell at all in dragonflight it just feels wrong to press RJW and SCK. And flying barrels are fun :)
Also stop the RJW hate its a awesome spell.
😂😂its a great spell 👍
RJW was the cause of the layoffs
Ahahah marceliago may be again bdk “s” tier?)))000
your talking about many buttons.. War got so many buttons..
too late season dead
First
Play Prot warrior to and it is awesome 😀
I know it’s fun and it’s all subjective but prot warrior S tier fun ? No way, it’s the most boring tank to play, lots of buttons that all do the same and even if you press them all a dot or bleed will kill you. If you don’t have a good healer you will feel it. The main fun part is mobility, charging and leaping is fun, spell reflect is okey. But dmg rotation, grouping mobs, urki tiu are totally crap and o got bored after maybe 10 keys to the point where I’m not touching prot warrior as it’s the most boring useless tank in game😉
Fair points and I respect that! I don't like it's simplicity either (think I mentioned it) but I dunno its just something about Prot warrior that tickles my fun senses regardless of very solid / logical arguments. Have to admit a total bias here as well :)
@@MarcelianOnline would love if they would through hero talents make possibility of Prot warrior to be as a general commander, buffing allies with shouts, banners and so on. Blizzard had to great ideas - one was shield wall to give dmg res to all party in last season of SL - it should really come back - then you were actually protecting someone- now it feels as protection is a meme name it can barely protect itself let alone anyone else. Second cool thing was mass grip on leap - would also make it more fun. Both those thing were removed for whatever reason and prot is a great fantasy blend vanilla gameplay tank which doesn’t do much outside of aggro mobs😉
Prot paladin actually protects. Does warrior eve have his intercede ability anymore? Maybe its not called that, but you probably know which one im asking about. Charge on ally
@@Zm0r it does but as tank you’ll realistically never use it in pve, it’s used in PvP by arms and fury warriors mainly😉
I suppose fun is in the eye of the beholder...
I couldn't disagree with you any more than I already do.
no one care about retail lol
says the one who is watching the video LMAOOO
These "most fun" videos need to stop. EVERYTHING in Wow is competitive. Fun becomes unfun when your class is struggling. I see what you are trying to do but it's quite pointless in my opinion so I rarely watch these types of videos.
hate to break it to you but alot of people still play wow for fun. Not everyone is tied to one specific class/spec and with the nature of balancing/tier sets; people want to see which specs came out on top in terms of overall design, playstyle, effectiveness, and FUN
@@friezeray A lot of people? You mean the remaining player base. The game is dying. Even TH-cam Wow channels are shrinking in views because people are just not interested anymore. But I get your point. I have every class at level 70 because leveling and trying new classes and specs is the most fun thing to do in the game because the end game is truly awful.
Wait wut. As a CE raider and avid m+ player (3300 atm) these are my favorite videos.
Unless you're a hard-core Mythic First racer or pushing keys over 20 you can 100% play for fun.
Meta chasing is for those who play as a job/sport and those who wish they were half that good.
@@mattb896 That's not true at all. Choosing the meta vs choosing what fun could mean +2 to your key just by choosing stronger classes. Also, people always try to emulate the meta. " those who wish they were half that good" that's like 90 percent of the player base bro.
Fun fact you can deaths advance and not get knocked up by storming while on blood DK.