Nice man thanks for looking into that... I thought I was crazy tbh but I was finding the same... I definitely dont skimp on my tools and I just didn't realize it was that much 😬 it has pulled ridiculous amounts of bearings off tho and still works perfectly 👌
Another great instructional John! Even though I have 25+ rebuilding saws, I always like to watch the techniques of other techs . My mentor showed me his ways when I was just starting and after trying multiple other ways, I always go back to the tried and true. I like to freeze my bearings while heating the case half’s to 220 degrees, the bearings drop right in and fully seat I then pull the crank through the bearings. There’s many ways to do it properly, this way is what works well for me. Keep up the great content and Merry Christmas John!
You got it man... I wouldn't recommend this method if you have the proper pullers and tools thats for sure.. .lot of people apparently fight these bearings and cases and are scared to do it... service center charges more than what the saw is worth to fix it so they are stuck with no good solution...
@@johnscustomsaws yeah I agree, I always feel bad for the customers when I tell them what their looking at to rebuild one. That said, Matt Olson makes some good tools reasonably priced for the do it your self guys from what I’ve seen. A fleet command uses them, so they should hold up well.
I just popped out a bearing from my Makita dcs 6401 by following this advice, wooden bench it wasn’t going out, put some ar500 under it and made sure it was flat and POP, bearing came right out. Thank you so much I was really starting to lose hope before pulling up this video.
Great tips John.I've done a mix of what you showed and the old freezer and oven technique.Freeze the crank in the freezer heat the bearings in the oven and they fall on.Then I freeze the crank with the bearings on and heat the case halves in the oven.Then the crank and bearings will fall into the first case half and the second case half will go on mostly and finish it by pulling with the bolts.Merry Christmas John,Thank's for sharing all your tricks and mods with us.
I have heard that works really well i just haven't done it... definitely can see that being a better method especially for installing without the specialty tool... what temperature do you heat the bearings to if you don't mind me asking?
@@johnscustomsaws I set the oven to 200 F .Some guys use a heat gun and a temp gun to heat the cases,but I have neither so I just set the oven and so far I've been lucky.
The right tools are so important! Just ordered a bunch of Stihl tools cause Was not able to go further in my repairs ( and not enough experience to work around it 😅)! Yeah that case separater is one thing I still miss but it’s 200€🤦♂️ Anyway thank you for sharing the knowledge and a happy new year to you!
Always some good tips. I’ve seen many different ways people do this. We can all learn something new. Thanks for all the details. Some things I get complacent on sometimes and can use someone else’s perspective. I don’t have but a handful of specific tools. Sometimes i have to use the shmammer method 😂
Thanks John, very usefull video! Will restore a nice MS260 and thi is super usefull! Aplso thank you for showing Stihl tools. They are super ease to make, esspecially if you have a tig welder and lathe... Happy new year man!
just got the bar stud tool,,c splitter tool,seal tool ,and bearing press tool,still i learn all the various techniques, centering the crank and preventing prolapse of the seal ,gunna learn on 036,thanks
Good tutorial John. Made for hobbyist just like me. I don't like Phillips Heads either. Also, to the question about the Husky 50 and 55 parts being interchangeable. All parts seem to be the same except the bore of the jug. . I had sent you an email.
Yep I dont like to talk bad on another guys methods but I just have a different opinion based on personal experience I guess is the nicest way I can put it... I have seen saws that had been idled for a tank of fuel for break in and I didn't like what I saw... and multiple saws as well not just acone time freak thing ... I just dont get the logic behind it maybe I am missing something 🤷♂️
@@johnscustomsaws best way to prove a point is to test it. Maybe get a cheap saw and do the full tank idle test. The cut with it and see if it cleans up or not? That way it’s definitive what is the best method.
@@FishFind3000 i agree... it really does get that hot metal smell to the saw and obviously loads it up with carbon... but exactly it might clear up after a bit of use and be perfectly fine... I worry about glazing tho tbh and I have had such great results doing the heat cycles I would have to see some serious evidence to change my mind but hey never know... I definitely dont havecall the answers and I have heard very knowledgeable people have opinions on each side of the argument so its one I just don't know what to think
I absolutely love this type of content. Of course it's ALL amazing, but I learned a ton watching this. Thanks for another one, man! Also, I'm super stoked about that turbo. Maybe a Rotax in the future?
Im happy to hear you like the videos my man... who knows what I might get into... if the channel takes off like I am hoping trust me you guys will see the wildest builds I promise you... it needs to be profitable enough that I can put money into these projects like a turbine engine (jet saw)... and yes I know its been done but not by a crazy guy in a home shop lol... but that engine is 5 grand alone... but well worth it if I can make it back on views... im hopeful for this TH-cam channel my man
@@chrisseger6870 I don't really want to ask for money... I am earning more off these videos than I expected... TH-cam actually pays pretty well... I feel if I put up good content I will get the views and then I can really get into crazy builds... thats what I meant... I am not after any subscribers money... just the advertisers money lol
@@johnscustomsaws I totally get it. I'm just saying, there's fools out there like me who wanna donate to the insanity. No kudos. Just to watch someone do what we wish we could.
@@chrisseger6870 thats pretty awesome to hear man honestly... it would be pretty gnarly to do fund raisers to buy the crazy stuff like the turbine engine... they are around 5 to 7 grand depending on the setup... then raffle the saw off at the end or something so im not getting the money... i just dont feel right asking for anything its just the way i am... but what a great way to do wild builds... i may not be the smartest or most mechanical guy but i am that guy that isnt one bit intimidated to hit the thrusters or whatever the hell you do on a jet saw hahaha
New subscriber here love the channel I am a professional timber faller here in the northwest going on my 18th year wondering if you have heard of my old saw builder the legendary Ace Morgan from coos bay Ace saw shop
i did look i couldn't find that exact puller and the price range on the ones i did find were all over the place and i know that some of the cheap pullers are junk so i dont feel comfortable recommending them... this one was made in germany and its good quality
Would you ever try heating g the case half in an oven. The case would expand faster than the bearing, and the bearing falls out we used to to that with dirt bike and quad engines. Separating case halves was always interesting with a transmission inside, but that saw was giving you a hard time.
With the actual tool its super easy and would have been a pointless video honestly... the proper tool is the way to go i was just showing a way to do it without so it was interesting
Thank you so much John. I hope you’ve enjoyed a lovely Christmas with the fam. I see you snuck out to the shed for some alone time with the 880/881 😁 A Christmas gift to yourself 👊
Hey so Ive been trying to well actually I had to change the rubber hoarding behind the carb ,I lined it up.put the washer and head ring Iny the middle pee the carb back on and it still is sucking air so you have any suggestions
Run the screw gun on your puller. It doesn't hurt anything and saves your arms as well as a ton of time. Been doing it that way in my shop for years with no issues.
Hi, John!! I have a question: I have a stihl ms 201tc, I heated the crankcase, put new bearings, oil seals, but there is a play in the crankshaft. what would be the problem?
Yes... you missed the point... I explained i can do it with parts from a hardware store and without heat or penatrating oil to show its not that difficult... people wanted me to do this video because they battle splitting csses.. they obviously use heat but my whole point was that if they are battling it they are doing something wrong
Easiest is probably 462 or 661... best results i would say 880 or 461... they will give you the biggest gains at least the saws I do... I don't do many models anymore
I’d disagree that having a tool equals knowledge on using said tool. There are some that have the means to buy but not yet used. Ever heard of: see one, do one, teach one? I’m assuming you had a first time using those specialty tools; did you know exactly how they worked on every situation pushing or pulling. I think not. Some people are visual learners. Have you ever read some shitty instructions and thought I wonder if there is a TH-cam video. Your analogy is flawed sir. You could show both methods. Just my 2c. Great content just the same.
The specialty tool is so easy to use a monkey could do it... certainly someone that buys a case splitting tool should understand how to use it or probably should hire someone to do it... there is only one way it works... so YES I absolutely understood how to use it within 30 seconds... mechanical people understand how that stuff works and don't need a tutorial... if I made the video u are describing people would think I am losing my mind... so I showed a way to do it without the tool...
Love your camera , it’s really good quality dude, really important for filming, especially quality content such as the videos you make. Really curious to know what you think about husky’s "auto tune" ? Is it any good or somewhat comparable to the 500i? Wondering because I was gifted a brand new 545 mark ii, I love it and I know a good carb makes a massive difference.. I put a SmartCarb on my 2020yz125x and it’s really good but ofc it’s not KTMTPI good..
The mark II auto tune huskys are awesome... the first version of the auto tune series had tons of problems but they have them sorted now... the 500i is a much bigger saw so its hard to compare it to anything under a 90 cc honestly... the reason I don't do huskys is I am so booked solid I can be very selective on the saws I do so I stay in my lane and just do certain models so I can be efficient and perfect a few builds vs doing a wide variety of saws... if that makes sense... but I am a certified husky tech as well my man
The puller it’s $250 there’s a similar one for $50 at harbor freight.
Nice man thanks for looking into that... I thought I was crazy tbh but I was finding the same... I definitely dont skimp on my tools and I just didn't realize it was that much 😬 it has pulled ridiculous amounts of bearings off tho and still works perfectly 👌
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@@johnscustomsaws hey John where are the engine mounts on one of em saws never mind bro I found out
@@johnscustomsaws or does the plastic just connect to the side
Thanks for this, it helps the home garage mechanics like me.
Another great instructional John! Even though I have 25+ rebuilding saws, I always like to watch the techniques of other techs . My mentor showed me his ways when I was just starting and after trying multiple other ways, I always go back to the tried and true. I like to freeze my bearings while heating the case half’s to 220 degrees, the bearings drop right in and fully seat I then pull the crank through the bearings. There’s many ways to do it properly, this way is what works well for me. Keep up the great content and Merry Christmas John!
You got it man... I wouldn't recommend this method if you have the proper pullers and tools thats for sure.. .lot of people apparently fight these bearings and cases and are scared to do it... service center charges more than what the saw is worth to fix it so they are stuck with no good solution...
@@johnscustomsaws yeah I agree, I always feel bad for the customers when I tell them what their looking at to rebuild one. That said, Matt Olson makes some good tools reasonably priced for the do it your self guys from what I’ve seen. A fleet command uses them, so they should hold up well.
I just popped out a bearing from my Makita dcs 6401 by following this advice, wooden bench it wasn’t going out, put some ar500 under it and made sure it was flat and POP, bearing came right out. Thank you so much I was really starting to lose hope before pulling up this video.
Great tips John.I've done a mix of what you showed and the old freezer and oven technique.Freeze the crank in the freezer heat the bearings in the oven and they fall on.Then I freeze the crank with the bearings on and heat the case halves in the oven.Then the crank and bearings will fall into the first case half and the second case half will go on mostly and finish it by pulling with the bolts.Merry Christmas John,Thank's for sharing all your tricks and mods with us.
I have heard that works really well i just haven't done it... definitely can see that being a better method especially for installing without the specialty tool... what temperature do you heat the bearings to if you don't mind me asking?
@@johnscustomsaws I set the oven to 200 F .Some guys use a heat gun and a temp gun to heat the cases,but I have neither so I just set the oven and so far I've been lucky.
@@marksarkaquariums9056 awesome man thanks for the knowledge I love to hear what works for people and get a different perspective on it 👍
I’m rebuilding a Husky 359 and wondered about the freezer/oven method for going back together. I’m going to give it a go. Thanks to both of you!
The right tools are so important! Just ordered a bunch of Stihl tools cause Was not able to go further in my repairs ( and not enough experience to work around it 😅)! Yeah that case separater is one thing I still miss but it’s 200€🤦♂️
Anyway thank you for sharing the knowledge and a happy new year to you!
Always some good tips. I’ve seen many different ways people do this. We can all learn something new. Thanks for all the details. Some things I get complacent on sometimes and can use someone else’s perspective. I don’t have but a handful of specific tools. Sometimes i have to use the shmammer method 😂
Lol yep... special tools can easily be substituted for a big ass hammer 😂
@@johnscustomsaws exactly 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bella stealing your moment again John . Lmfao
Thanks John, very usefull video!
Will restore a nice MS260 and thi is super usefull!
Aplso thank you for showing Stihl tools. They are super ease to make, esspecially if you have a tig welder and lathe...
Happy new year man!
Hi John good video man looking forward to seeing more
just got the bar stud tool,,c splitter tool,seal tool ,and bearing press tool,still i learn all the various techniques, centering the crank and preventing prolapse of the seal ,gunna learn on 036,thanks
Good tutorial John.
Made for hobbyist just like me.
I don't like Phillips Heads either.
Also, to the question about the Husky 50 and 55 parts being interchangeable. All parts seem to be the same except the bore of the jug. .
I had sent you an email.
Thanks for another great video. Merry Christmas to you and your family
Thanks bud... you too 👍
I was watching buckins video the other day and his saw builder/dealer idles the saw when breaking in…… I loled at that.
Yep I dont like to talk bad on another guys methods but I just have a different opinion based on personal experience I guess is the nicest way I can put it... I have seen saws that had been idled for a tank of fuel for break in and I didn't like what I saw... and multiple saws as well not just acone time freak thing ... I just dont get the logic behind it maybe I am missing something 🤷♂️
@@johnscustomsaws best way to prove a point is to test it. Maybe get a cheap saw and do the full tank idle test. The cut with it and see if it cleans up or not? That way it’s definitive what is the best method.
@@FishFind3000 i agree... it really does get that hot metal smell to the saw and obviously loads it up with carbon... but exactly it might clear up after a bit of use and be perfectly fine... I worry about glazing tho tbh and I have had such great results doing the heat cycles I would have to see some serious evidence to change my mind but hey never know... I definitely dont havecall the answers and I have heard very knowledgeable people have opinions on each side of the argument so its one I just don't know what to think
I absolutely love this type of content. Of course it's ALL amazing, but I learned a ton watching this. Thanks for another one, man! Also, I'm super stoked about that turbo. Maybe a Rotax in the future?
Im happy to hear you like the videos my man... who knows what I might get into... if the channel takes off like I am hoping trust me you guys will see the wildest builds I promise you... it needs to be profitable enough that I can put money into these projects like a turbine engine (jet saw)... and yes I know its been done but not by a crazy guy in a home shop lol... but that engine is 5 grand alone... but well worth it if I can make it back on views... im hopeful for this TH-cam channel my man
@@johnscustomsaws You and me both. What about memberships? I'd donate to this damn cause!!! Couple different tiers... Just sayin.
@@chrisseger6870 I don't really want to ask for money... I am earning more off these videos than I expected... TH-cam actually pays pretty well... I feel if I put up good content I will get the views and then I can really get into crazy builds... thats what I meant... I am not after any subscribers money... just the advertisers money lol
@@johnscustomsaws I totally get it. I'm just saying, there's fools out there like me who wanna donate to the insanity. No kudos. Just to watch someone do what we wish we could.
@@chrisseger6870 thats pretty awesome to hear man honestly... it would be pretty gnarly to do fund raisers to buy the crazy stuff like the turbine engine... they are around 5 to 7 grand depending on the setup... then raffle the saw off at the end or something so im not getting the money... i just dont feel right asking for anything its just the way i am... but what a great way to do wild builds... i may not be the smartest or most mechanical guy but i am that guy that isnt one bit intimidated to hit the thrusters or whatever the hell you do on a jet saw hahaha
8:40 a used brake rotor might work perfect for that. It’s round, reasonably flat, sturdy and solid, and you probably already have one or can get one.
thats an excellent idea... and something more realistic that a guy would have laying around... nice man!!!
Appreciate your knowledge..
New subscriber here love the channel I am a professional timber faller here in the northwest going on my 18th year wondering if you have heard of my old saw builder the legendary Ace Morgan from coos bay Ace saw shop
Good jobsawrus
Good stuff and good to know 👍
I already like this video. Subscribed. Cool.
🤟 Many thanks
Another great video! Thanks John! Maybe somebody will find a link to that pulling tool and post a reply.
i did look i couldn't find that exact puller and the price range on the ones i did find were all over the place and i know that some of the cheap pullers are junk so i dont feel comfortable recommending them... this one was made in germany and its good quality
Any tips or tricks on the 193t or 201t would be appreciated. Trying to figure how to hop up my climbing saws in the off season. Thanks for the videos.
I saw a couple-o-specialty tools
I wish I had em.
I JUST found your channel and I'm excited to watch your work. Do you have any videos showing how to disassemble a crankshaft?
Nice. Thanks. - N Idaho -
Would you ever try heating g the case half in an oven. The case would expand faster than the bearing, and the bearing falls out we used to to that with dirt bike and quad engines.
Separating case halves was always interesting with a transmission inside, but that saw was giving you a hard time.
With the actual tool its super easy and would have been a pointless video honestly... the proper tool is the way to go i was just showing a way to do it without so it was interesting
There Is a Reason There Called Jack Screws 😎
Thank you
Very helpfull
Awesome video
G’day John.
In a future vid will you show how you use the correct puller please?
I would like to buy one and seeing you use it would be very helpful.
sure thing my man... they are pretty slick honestly... the next time i do a wildfire 461 i will have to make a note to record it
Thank you so much John.
I hope you’ve enjoyed a lovely Christmas with the fam.
I see you snuck out to the shed for some alone time with the 880/881 😁
A Christmas gift to yourself 👊
Hey so Ive been trying to well actually I had to change the rubber hoarding behind the carb ,I lined it up.put the washer and head ring Iny the middle pee the carb back on and it still is sucking air so you have any suggestions
Run the screw gun on your puller. It doesn't hurt anything and saves your arms as well as a ton of time. Been doing it that way in my shop for years with no issues.
Hi, John!! I have a question: I have a stihl ms 201tc, I heated the crankcase, put new bearings, oil seals, but there is a play in the crankshaft. what would be the problem?
Thanks
Hmm. Why did'nt you knock out the location pins, BEFORE using the tool for splitting the crankcase?
heating the crankcase makes it easy to disassemble and reassemble.
Yes... you missed the point... I explained i can do it with parts from a hardware store and without heat or penatrating oil to show its not that difficult... people wanted me to do this video because they battle splitting csses.. they obviously use heat but my whole point was that if they are battling it they are doing something wrong
Best saw to port ??????
Easiest is probably 462 or 661... best results i would say 880 or 461... they will give you the biggest gains at least the saws I do... I don't do many models anymore
Thanks !!!!!!
I’d disagree that having a tool equals knowledge on using said tool. There are some that have the means to buy but not yet used. Ever heard of: see one, do one, teach one? I’m assuming you had a first time using those specialty tools; did you know exactly how they worked on every situation pushing or pulling. I think not. Some people are visual learners. Have you ever read some shitty instructions and thought I wonder if there is a TH-cam video. Your analogy is flawed sir. You could show both methods. Just my 2c. Great content just the same.
The specialty tool is so easy to use a monkey could do it... certainly someone that buys a case splitting tool should understand how to use it or probably should hire someone to do it... there is only one way it works... so YES I absolutely understood how to use it within 30 seconds... mechanical people understand how that stuff works and don't need a tutorial... if I made the video u are describing people would think I am losing my mind... so I showed a way to do it without the tool...
Wish u didn't curse so much love ur videos but hard to listen
Love your camera , it’s really good quality dude, really important for filming, especially quality content such as the videos you make. Really curious to know what you think about husky’s "auto tune" ? Is it any good or somewhat comparable to the 500i? Wondering because I was gifted a brand new 545 mark ii, I love it and I know a good carb makes a massive difference.. I put a SmartCarb on my 2020yz125x and it’s really good but ofc it’s not KTMTPI good..
The mark II auto tune huskys are awesome... the first version of the auto tune series had tons of problems but they have them sorted now... the 500i is a much bigger saw so its hard to compare it to anything under a 90 cc honestly... the reason I don't do huskys is I am so booked solid I can be very selective on the saws I do so I stay in my lane and just do certain models so I can be efficient and perfect a few builds vs doing a wide variety of saws... if that makes sense... but I am a certified husky tech as well my man