absolutely agree, i think they could really bring more popularity for this stuff in the western world, it will likely never be what it is in korea but they would be great if this were to be aired on an espn for example
@@karmaceutical3963 Yeah, but no...people who watch esports do not do it on TV; rather, they watch the content online. So it is very specific: if you aren't already into it, it's not likely for you to stumble upon it and stay...
Flash is a great tactical player. He really is taking random to a level I never even thought of. Of course his mechanics are godlike, but his understanding of the game seems to be even better
ok now it's official: people have to stop bitching about terran being op. it's just this guy that is OP. He would have got the same results in his career whichever race he played. He's just TOO GOOD
Yeah, it's true, at least in this case. EDIT: I mean in the case of Flash. I don't know if a player like Serral (that plays SC2), played Random, this would happen. I know he played Terran once, and he won, but he wasn't playing a real top tier player that time.
@@StardragonEX2 Yeah that's because Serral is "only" one of the greatest Starcraft players *now*, and hasn't been on top for that long(when compared to Flash). Where as Flash is one of the *Greatest of all Time* PRO GAMERS, ever. Not just for Starcraft, but for any game, ever.
+ also in game 2 Flash did EVERYTHING that bothered him in TvP. Constant exchange so that Terran never reaches 200, reaver then Templar speed drops, continuous speed shuttle production for combat (least 2). Most Protoss players don’t use shuttle this much for optimization purpose. Flash being a random player he is so unorthodox we may actually see flash winning ASL 10
@@plasmaastronaut i doubt Flash knows more than pro Protoss players in terms of reaver micro. I think flash just has quicker decision making and quicker to assess the battlefield in a split second.
@@plasmaastronaut a surprising display of the close connection he has with the game's physics. That one where he got the fleeing SCVs going down to the nat I thought was a sure dud
Thank you Flash, for making this happen. I have always wondered how a pro player would play if they choose to play random, because in theory, that gives the player a massive advantage but also require tremendous amount of preparations and experiences of all 3 races to pull if off. So fascinating to watch your games now, giving me a reason to come back and watch SC1 again XD
It seems that flash stormdrops terran more then any given protoss player. I wonder how it works. In theory, reducing the economy alongside the army of terran makes it very difficult (or impossible) to expand while also preventing offensive moveout. It essentially allowed flash to secure his early game lead by simply eliminating rush options. Interesting.
he is just on another level - even casters were disturbing by the amount of drops he did in that the only question is would that work against Flash T ? xD
@@naczelnypsycholog6296 I think that this was situational tactics. By spending on gas on templars, he is delaying arbiter tech and upgrades. But upgrades are not critical and he won't need arbiters for defense since terran has no scary army. At the same time, he can safely expand and when eventually he attacks it won't even matter how many toss units die because he can rebuild the army very quickly thanks to the superior economy. But to do all of that you need an initial lead from the harass. I think that this makes sense, but I just wonder why no other toss uses this style.
I also have noticed this trait. Hard to say if it's occasional gig/cheese or defined playstyle. Thing is, offrace Flash can't win with just pure micro/macro play, he lacks experience. So he wins with tactics. He actually admitted that in interviews - last season he decided to play by tactics, just for fun. And this season he does that out of other options. So it may be just a gig he won't use again, just like that ninja base with Snow. Is this play worth it in long run? I'ain't this good to speculate on this. But if he does it again in Ro. 4 and wins, then yes it is ;)
It seems to me that flash will always play fast pool every time he gets zerg, so that opponents should either go scout early or choose defensive builds, which will favour flash 2/3 of the time (when he will be playing t or p)
1:04:17 Anticlimactic is an understatement... I joined the stream as Tastosis closed the last game. I shook my head in disbelief. 1 hour including intro interview, commercials, and casting?! 30 min in-game playtime total.
The word is 'overpowerful', you idiot. 'Overpowered' is the past tense of 'to overpower'. All of you who misuse 'overpowered', English speakers or otherwise, sound like complete retards. Just thought I'd let you know. Feel free to take the opportunity to learn English properly.
@@AlmightyDreadlock I'll bite. Words in English have multiple definitions. In this sense overpowered means to be provided with more power than is needed or desirable, e.g. a dangerously overpowered car. Here, a dangerously overpowered SC race.
@@AlmightyDreadlock en.wiktionary.org/wiki/overpowered#:~:text=overpowered%20(comparative%20more%20overpowered%2C%20superlative,Overly%20powerful. dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/overpowered Lol... your illiteracy is overpowered (it's also an adjective), feel free to not write such stupid comments.
Heart rate 60 - wake up See Asl notification - heart rate 80 See that it's ro.8 - heart rate 100 See Flash - heart rate 120 R Heart rate 150 - schedule an appointment with the doctor cause that's not normal. Doctor tells me it's fine it's just flash playing random it happens to everyone.
I think they got game 2 wrong. At some point Tasteless was saying he was worried for Flash and like 30 seconds later he said Rush is hanging on by a thread. Like, what? Regardless, Flash dominated that whole game. He displayed a brilliant PvT and any mistakes he made were minor.
The thing is, the Terran army scales way better as the game progresses, and Flash had just attacked outside Rush's third while being very wasteful with his units. If somehow Rush got his economy together and Flash kept being wasteful with his main army, he could have lost that. But yeah, Flash had already won that game because of all the Reaver and HT drops.
@@Galacsia Well, let's be clear about why the Terran army scales better as the game progresses. It's really the nature of ranged units (especially the tank) scaling with army size and not the upgrades as I sometimes hear. So Flash's constant pressure kept the battles relatively small. The inefficient trades we're better in the long run because they would have been even more inefficient if he let Rush get a larger army. Basically, the whole game I was watching Flash just get more and more ahead. Artosis was smart enough to point out the large supply differences at times, but I just thought it was weird they were acting like the game was closer than it really was.
I might be wrong, but the idea is not to hide the proxy racks, just put into the location where the Marines has straight access to the enemy base. If Flash did not go for super early pool, he might have lost.
Ringing Bloom is 4 player map. Rush does not know where Flash is. BBS is done somewhere in the center. Rush had bad luck that he built it right in front of Flash's base, making it even more lopsided win for Flash.
What's the military situation with Flash? In ASL S8 they kept sayin this might be his last tourney cuz he hasta go to military soon. Now its ASL 10 and he's still here, but they aren't mentioning anything about the military. Is there some secret exemption he got?
It is no longer mandatory for all i think. Not sure, think i heard tastosis speak about it one time. He got a delay due to a hand injury i believe at least.
@@henryh.448 Flash got medical exemption from that specific injury sometime last year; artosis mentioned in one of his casts, I cannot remember exactly which one. Discussions about his impending service disappeared after that.
I don't understand the Nexus first on a 2 players map. Your opponent wants to scout you a fast as possible, and he can find you immediately. Therefore there is a high chance of the Nexus first being scouted very early (except obviously in the case we had... did he anticipate it ??)
fast worker scout loss meaningful minerals in the early game. Flash actually prepared fast 2cc in game 1 so i think Rush tried to offset the advantage that Flash gets from playing random. maybe for that reason he start fast second cc and scout as late as possible
Scouting is like Scrodinger's Box. The game is anyone's game until that box is opened. When yu get to this level of competitive play, once yu open this box (aka. Knowing the opponent's build), the arms race begins. Just because yu manage to get a scount in doesn't mean the opponent is like durr im like, not gonna start building counters to yur counters at all. So if yu start building counters to a fast expand, all the opponent has to do is wall off and beat yur ass in after macroing a stronger army and then yu get GG'd And on top of that, if they survive yur initial drop/push, they are actually free to counter harass like the Reaver drop Flash did and totally cripple yur economy.
Everyone shaking in their boots now I guess. If this can bring more Random players it would be huge. However, it's probable that instead Flash will be switching back to Terran eventually.
Is a player allowed to chose his race any game he plays or does he have to register with his race's choice and stick to it for the duration of the tournament?
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I hope Artosis and Tastless are getting an insane amount of money because they make this THE best entertainment!
Having the Michael Jordan of the sport go for Championship after switching to baseball for a while definitely makes it easier on them.
i agree i mosrly watch jus cause they are the funniest nerds ever
absolutely agree, i think they could really bring more popularity for this stuff in the western world, it will likely never be what it is in korea but they would be great if this were to be aired on an espn for example
@@karmaceutical3963 Yeah, but no...people who watch esports do not do it on TV; rather, they watch the content online. So it is very specific: if you aren't already into it, it's not likely for you to stumble upon it and stay...
Agreed, they are really perfect commentators.
Flash laughing made me belly laugh.
These two clowns at the end making me spill my coffee with the hammerhead eye popping fatality move !
Thank you for commenting this because I'd stopped the video but that was SO worth watching to the end holy cow
@@PaceYourself Skipping Tastosis filling time should be illegal.
Thank you!
Wanna watch the minor Korean SC matches in English? KCM, BJ extinction, ETC. Please sub: th-cam.com/channels/wnduSVCCc1S2aqH6iSFScQ.html
This is the Starcraft equivalent of a perfect hattrick
Love the ending! The boys getting sick of waiting around so they start talking about sharks and they end it lmao!!
I periodically re-watch this just so I can see Flash dominate as Random. And, of course, that laugh in game 3 is epic :)
Flash is the broodwar Avatar. He can channel the rest of the TaekBangLeeSsang as he randoms.
And Tastosis would be Sokka lol.
Jaedong in his prime would be the only one who stands a chance
@@GSE1916 Yeah, Stork and Bisu are basically a joke now.
@@whitneysmiltank And JD isn't?lol
How fitting that Flashs theme is the BGM for the Song "Europa" from Globus, because he unites everything in SC:R
The moment Rush notices Flash's race each game:
00:29:13
00:46:00
1:09:41
1:10:21 - sibal
1:10:48 - swag face
That was funny.
Third time was also a disappointment cause his build got scouted right away and Flash was doing perfect build to counter it too....
ty bro ;p
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Flash is a great tactical player. He really is taking random to a level I never even thought of. Of course his mechanics are godlike, but his understanding of the game seems to be even better
ok now it's official: people have to stop bitching about terran being op. it's just this guy that is OP. He would have got the same results in his career whichever race he played. He's just TOO GOOD
Yeah, it's true, at least in this case.
EDIT: I mean in the case of Flash.
I don't know if a player like Serral (that plays SC2), played Random, this would happen. I know he played Terran once, and he won, but he wasn't playing a real top tier player that time.
@@StardragonEX2 Yeah that's because Serral is "only" one of the greatest Starcraft players *now*, and hasn't been on top for that long(when compared to Flash).
Where as Flash is one of the *Greatest of all Time* PRO GAMERS, ever. Not just for Starcraft, but for any game, ever.
Flash showing the power of random. Mind games cheese and fabulous macro toss to back it up.
+ also in game 2 Flash did EVERYTHING that bothered him in TvP. Constant exchange so that Terran never reaches 200, reaver then Templar speed drops, continuous speed shuttle production for combat (least 2). Most Protoss players don’t use shuttle this much for optimization purpose. Flash being a random player he is so unorthodox we may actually see flash winning ASL 10
If Flash would rush Rush he would win in a flash.
LOL
Correction after watching: he did and did.....
somewhere a woodchuck chucked
lol. this is something Google Translate will never be able to translate correctly. 😁
Boooo!.. take my like
History is being made. I can't wait to watch the semi-finals.
Poor Rush.. He looked CRUSHED at the end
he really did. im happy for flash´s win, but damn.. was kinda heartbreaking how down rush looked
Oh my god 1 hour 24 minutes someone is going to get R O L L E D and i'm gonna hazard a guess it's not Flash.
@skcansMachine 😂
Nevermind the drop positioning, those scarabs were aimed very very well
yes it looks like F found a better way to aim scarabs. So often now i see pros throw dud scarabs all season
@@plasmaastronaut
Totally agree!! It's incredible, none of his scarabs dudded.
@@plasmaastronaut i doubt Flash knows more than pro Protoss players in terms of reaver micro. I think flash just has quicker decision making and quicker to assess the battlefield in a split second.
@@plasmaastronaut a surprising display of the close connection he has with the game's physics. That one where he got the fleeing SCVs going down to the nat I thought was a sure dud
Yeah, but i feel that the position actually mattered to get the shot in the right angle
Hahaha flash 3-0 with each of the races. Dude's a madman. Love it 😍
Man, Starcraft is just still so amazing
LMAOOOOO "That Marine is just in the bunker putting his armor on like he StarCraft 2 trailer, 'hell it's about time' and gets killed" 🤣🤣🤣😭
Man these two are just amazing as casting pair
Absolutely brutal! I really enjoyed seeing this match!
Thank you Flash, for making this happen. I have always wondered how a pro player would play if they choose to play random, because in theory, that gives the player a massive advantage but also require tremendous amount of preparations and experiences of all 3 races to pull if off.
So fascinating to watch your games now, giving me a reason to come back and watch SC1 again XD
I just walk out, go to the bathroom, get a drink then ... Rush is dead
Flash has made this whole ASL about him, and rightfully so! Awesome games yet again!
This is why I’ve been so excited for this season.
Thank you AfreecaTV
I believe you can check Flash's race via the supply icon in the top right of the screen.
These were great matches and casting.
Flash's reaver targeting is incredible
Great games from flash and commentary by tastosis
It seems that flash stormdrops terran more then any given protoss player. I wonder how it works. In theory, reducing the economy alongside the army of terran makes it very difficult (or impossible) to expand while also preventing offensive moveout. It essentially allowed flash to secure his early game lead by simply eliminating rush options. Interesting.
he also had a much bigger economy behind it, these drops were very expensive
he is just on another level - even casters were disturbing by the amount of drops he did in that
the only question is would that work against Flash T ? xD
Flash is using his experience from fastest money maps. You can storm drop even pass a wall of turrets for value lol
@@naczelnypsycholog6296 I think that this was situational tactics. By spending on gas on templars, he is delaying arbiter tech and upgrades. But upgrades are not critical and he won't need arbiters for defense since terran has no scary army. At the same time, he can safely expand and when eventually he attacks it won't even matter how many toss units die because he can rebuild the army very quickly thanks to the superior economy. But to do all of that you need an initial lead from the harass. I think that this makes sense, but I just wonder why no other toss uses this style.
I also have noticed this trait. Hard to say if it's occasional gig/cheese or defined playstyle. Thing is, offrace Flash can't win with just pure micro/macro play, he lacks experience. So he wins with tactics. He actually admitted that in interviews - last season he decided to play by tactics, just for fun. And this season he does that out of other options. So it may be just a gig he won't use again, just like that ninja base with Snow.
Is this play worth it in long run? I'ain't this good to speculate on this. But if he does it again in Ro. 4 and wins, then yes it is ;)
Love ASL best thing on the world!
This was SUCH a funny series :D
That was very entertaining!
Just insane.
...is it ?
@@fukcingweeabos3167 well yeah, I certainly wouldn't expect this 3-0 with all 3 races.
End of 2022 and this is still insane! Can't wait for FlaSh to return!
It seems to me that flash will always play fast pool every time he gets zerg, so that opponents should either go scout early or choose defensive builds, which will favour flash 2/3 of the time (when he will be playing t or p)
Brilliant thought
So his weakness on Zerg is intentional? He just doesn't care to practice it because he can, well, step 1 step back to step 2 steps forward?
That sneaky laugh from Flash on the third round 😂
Anybody know what the music was at the first 2mins of the video?
I love Tasteless reviewing the music selections as they come up. 😁
ASL Season 4 , Tasteless once said "Hold up.. hold on.. now Mario is rapping in Korean". So much memorable until 2021
Amazing
FlasH protoss play is better than most protoss. Insane storm and reaver hits. I saw him play Zerg also with a sunken rush, incredible!
These men are legends.
Those Zerglings were like doing a victory dance on the way to that win.
Stop hating on ZvZ!!! Love that matchup it is so volatile.
What next? Playing and winning with no keyboard? With one hand? Blindfolded?
Very impressive
What a legend
Whats the song after pvt win??
Flash is POG!!
G O A T 🐐
Tremendo Flash!
does tastless actually listen and translate for us or is he reading off of something?
is flash the best protoss player now
the face reaction shots when they see flashs race are sooo funny
can they change their race between battles????
Simply the GOAT.
Spoiler...
He not only dominated Rush while playing Random. He did using all three races to 3-0 him. What did I just watch...
You watched the most overpowered race in the history of ASL Flash.
Wtf flash has reavers that actually blow up
Terrans know things... Flash, Boxer, NaDa, iloveoov, broodwar terrans are the best!
1:04:17 Anticlimactic is an understatement...
I joined the stream as Tastosis closed the last game. I shook my head in disbelief.
1 hour including intro interview, commercials, and casting?! 30 min in-game playtime total.
Dominated in a Flash,
with a 3rd Minute Zerg Rush.
based yotsuba pfp
What a God....such understanding of the game.
How can i support AfreecaTV/ASL?
Turn of adblocker. Watch video several times.
Get citizenship on African continent.
This is perfect starcraft.
51:26 killed 7 (total of 16 kills). That's like an entire base :O
terran is not overpowered. Lee young-ho is overpowered.
The word is 'overpowerful', you idiot. 'Overpowered' is the past tense of 'to overpower'. All of you who misuse 'overpowered', English speakers or otherwise, sound like complete retards. Just thought I'd let you know. Feel free to take the opportunity to learn English properly.
@@AlmightyDreadlock That comment certainly shows your OP ego.
@@AlmightyDreadlock I'll bite. Words in English have multiple definitions. In this sense overpowered means to be provided with more power than is needed or desirable, e.g. a dangerously overpowered car. Here, a dangerously overpowered SC race.
@@AlmightyDreadlock your comment is so incredibly wrong it makes me cringe
@@AlmightyDreadlock en.wiktionary.org/wiki/overpowered#:~:text=overpowered%20(comparative%20more%20overpowered%2C%20superlative,Overly%20powerful.
dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/overpowered
Lol... your illiteracy is overpowered (it's also an adjective), feel free to not write such stupid comments.
GOD
A flash of light has come over Rush's eyes
Flash bringing the hype!!!
Heart rate 60 - wake up
See Asl notification - heart rate 80
See that it's ro.8 - heart rate 100
See Flash - heart rate 120
R
Heart rate 150 - schedule an appointment with the doctor cause that's not normal. Doctor tells me it's fine it's just flash playing random it happens to everyone.
Hahaha lol
The one and only Bonjwa! Flash!!!!!
LOLL the hammerhead shark jokes at the end
1:13:18
Was drinking something during this and damn near spit it. LMAO Tasteless.
(Edited time stamp, video seems to have changed a bit)
I would love a league or small tournament where everyone plays random. Would shake up so much of the somewhat stagnant player hierarchy/meta.
Now they are playing the tournament of legends in Starcast TV. All players are random
There was a foreigner tournament like that. I there was also one where they played their off-races.
I think they got game 2 wrong. At some point Tasteless was saying he was worried for Flash and like 30 seconds later he said Rush is hanging on by a thread. Like, what? Regardless, Flash dominated that whole game. He displayed a brilliant PvT and any mistakes he made were minor.
The thing is, the Terran army scales way better as the game progresses, and Flash had just attacked outside Rush's third while being very wasteful with his units. If somehow Rush got his economy together and Flash kept being wasteful with his main army, he could have lost that. But yeah, Flash had already won that game because of all the Reaver and HT drops.
@@Galacsia
Well, let's be clear about why the Terran army scales better as the game progresses. It's really the nature of ranged units (especially the tank) scaling with army size and not the upgrades as I sometimes hear. So Flash's constant pressure kept the battles relatively small. The inefficient trades we're better in the long run because they would have been even more inefficient if he let Rush get a larger army.
Basically, the whole game I was watching Flash just get more and more ahead. Artosis was smart enough to point out the large supply differences at times, but I just thought it was weird they were acting like the game was closer than it really was.
Im convinced Flash sandbagged in his random show matches
This man is a god.
Yup, flash still God
Why did he build the barracks in the middle of the map exactly on the scouting route ?
I might be wrong, but the idea is not to hide the proxy racks, just put into the location where the Marines has straight access to the enemy base. If Flash did not go for super early pool, he might have lost.
Ringing Bloom is 4 player map. Rush does not know where Flash is. BBS is done somewhere in the center. Rush had bad luck that he built it right in front of Flash's base, making it even more lopsided win for Flash.
He assumed Flash won't scout early because he didn't want to reveal the race.
man i love tastosis!
Why do they all wear white shoes?
flash = 最终兵器 ！
Game 1: 26:00
Game 2: 43:27
Game 3: 1:07:53
Please edit this to have a game 4 and game 5 so that it's not a giveway that it's a 3-0 ... which means after the first game you can tell who wins!
@@stomachfat bro the whole episode is 1:30:00 long there's no hiding it
@@stomachfat yeah I considered doing that but what timestamp was i gonna use for them
NADA QUE HACER EL AMIGO RUSH!!!,
y FlaSh? IMPARABLE ESTE LOCO!!!
Why did flash play random?
What does flash always stand up and walk away? The other players always just sitting there waiting
Wow
What's the military situation with Flash? In ASL S8 they kept sayin this might be his last tourney cuz he hasta go to military soon. Now its ASL 10 and he's still here, but they aren't mentioning anything about the military. Is there some secret exemption he got?
It is no longer mandatory for all i think. Not sure, think i heard tastosis speak about it one time. He got a delay due to a hand injury i believe at least.
he has decided to postpone more cause he has the right to postpone his conscription. maybe until 2022?
Flash has medical exemption from service due to the huge scar on his arm.
tl.net/forum/brood-war/267099-flashs-surgery-has-been-successful
@@hallymiao2825 That link goes to a post from 2011...
@@henryh.448 Flash got medical exemption from that specific injury sometime last year; artosis mentioned in one of his casts, I cannot remember exactly which one. Discussions about his impending service disappeared after that.
I don't understand the Nexus first on a 2 players map.
Your opponent wants to scout you a fast as possible, and he can find you immediately.
Therefore there is a high chance of the Nexus first being scouted very early (except obviously in the case we had... did he anticipate it ??)
fast worker scout loss meaningful minerals in the early game. Flash actually prepared fast 2cc in game 1 so i think Rush tried to offset the advantage that Flash gets from playing random. maybe for that reason he start fast second cc and scout as late as possible
Scouting is like Scrodinger's Box.
The game is anyone's game until that box is opened.
When yu get to this level of competitive play, once yu open this box (aka. Knowing the opponent's build), the arms race begins.
Just because yu manage to get a scount in doesn't mean the opponent is like durr im like, not gonna start building counters to yur counters at all.
So if yu start building counters to a fast expand, all the opponent has to do is wall off and beat yur ass in after macroing a stronger army and then yu get GG'd
And on top of that, if they survive yur initial drop/push, they are actually free to counter harass like the Reaver drop Flash did and totally cripple yur economy.
Everyone shaking in their boots now I guess. If this can bring more Random players it would be huge. However, it's probable that instead Flash will be switching back to Terran eventually.
Random OP
Holy shit.
1:10:46 lol the pain followed by Flash just cheesing it with a huge grin
Haha Flash. What a guy.
세 종족 돌아가며 번갈아가면서 팼네ㄷㄷ 유영진 입장에서는 모든 종족 상대로 다 지니까 멘탈 다 털릴듯
Anyone know the song played at 1:02:30 ? :)
Next time ASL will think twice before making Tastosis fill at the end of the cast 🤣 dying laughing
R v All: 100% wr
Is a player allowed to chose his race any game he plays or does he have to register with his race's choice and stick to it for the duration of the tournament?
He can't switch, he has to stick with it the entire tournament.
wow, best win rate with all 4 races. history making.