its so nice watching someone who understands the game go over stuff - very very interesting to know it has a weakpoint in its weakpoint though so many people posting things dont understand anything and im like bruhhh
I think people have a point and the nerfs, at least following the current reasoning, are very bad for the longevity of the game... I am not a fan of the nerfs at all. But that said, I'm still having fun too. I try to vary my choices anyway so I didn't feel absolutely gutted by the nerfs.
I'd love it if you'd show some more gameplay along side the descriptions. Staring at a chart for almost 30mins isn't ideal imo. Thanks for the testing though, very informative.
I use the Machine gun support weapon and found that shooting it's open "fleshy" side at maximum BPS when it's head is in the ground, kills it pretty quickly.
@@s2wuolf508I was cursing up a storm last night, I was being thrown around like a goddamn hacky sack, legitimately the most miserable thing I've experienced in a hot minute I'm taking close notes on this video and exacting my revenge soon
The new acid rain is so fun. The hmg can kill literally anything because armor pen values go down. You can shoot bile titans in the face and get hit markers. It’s actually really fun
Be careful as to not get close to the face when you are shooting at it. There is a very common bug that will launch you into space when his tentacles recoil back to him
Thank you so much for doing this work! Great analysis. My only comment is both the autocannon and grenade launcher took 5 shots to the vspot to kill but you ranked AC top of S-tier and GL mid A-tier. Not sure why this is, I'd love your thoughts.
Does smoke nades and smoke stratagems work to counter/ escape / engage them? There wasn't much detail here there might be a use case scenario to directly counter or support the team when fighting impailers?
I would assume that the arc thrower might arc BETWEEN the hit boxes depending on angle, so if you were slightly further to the side it might arc through all 3 hit boxes at the front.
I think impaler is the bug equivalent of the gunships. As soon as the tentacles (gunships) appear, you have to drop everything and find the impaler (gunship factory). Stalkers are kinda similar but sometimes you can just run away, but you can't do that with the impaler because the tentacles can reach all the way across the map which is pretty broken, hopefully they fix that.
Impailer is a no1 threat. I've noticed if you don't run directly at the impailer if it's at a distance you will get caught by the tentacles everytime. Anymore than one is a a nightmare. The issue is this usually means running into a horde of Termanids so this unit counters your kite strat completely and forces you to fight. Jet pack might be an effective tool to close the distance so you can get a stratagem off accurately. If they could just tweak the speed or activation of the tenticle slap animation so it doesn't hit you 100% of the time and gives you a chance to juke the slam that would be fun, like you can juke the bile titan spit attack, this seems like a death sentence if there is more than one of these.
I wish there was a better way to know where the tentacles were coming from, though. Having them be a priority and changing my target to them is okay, but when I have a horde of ravenous animals drooling to get me like I'm the last iphone at a store during Black Friday, and I have tentacles violating me like I'm in a japanese adult game at the same time, I don't have time to play hide and seek.
Jetpack actually helps you if you manage to land on top of those mountain rocks. For example, at the extraction, I climbed one of those rocks and the tentacle just stood there. It couldn’t hit me from where I was standing and they can’t spawn on top, allowing you all the time in the world to kill it. Also works as a tank so that those tentacles don’t go after your friends. Main reason why I put the jetpack on a high tier. Also one thing that you should have tested is to test normal weapons on it. On level 10, there’s not one scenario where I’m not juggling between weapons. I use the eruptor so if any of those stratagems that have cooldowns do enough damage, you could potentially one tap them with your normal weapons. I haven’t personally tested it but when the railcannon strike doesn’t kill it, I can finish it off with a combo of quick swapping between the eruptor and the bushwhacker (it cancels the reload time and animation).
Whats the counter when there is two and they spawn behind cover in the middle of a bug breach and im the only one that brought breach control stratagems and im on cooldown because the other players are not contributing to anything
I've been using the flamethrower and jet pack very effectively against the Impaler. First you bait it into trying to attack you with it's tentacles and then use the jump pack to rapidly close the distance and flame it in the face.
Thank you for the testing, great job! I have a request, if you would, I have noticed the charger legs work differently. I stripped the armor with a Quasar, and was getting non damage icons after shooting the same leg with a dominator. How?
You can kill a impaler in three shots with a grenade launcher if you get to the side of it and shoot just over its right shoulder towards the front basically hitting the underside of the neck. On Dif 10 I run grenade launcher and shield back pack to keep the tentacles and small enemies from staggering me
Honestly, i don't mind the existence of the "v-spot". It feels like a bug of some kind, but at the same time it doesn't break anything and using it is based more on skill than luck, so it seems like a nice place to express player skill. At the same time i wouldn't be mad at all if it gets fixed for sake of consistency in gameplay since it can feel random and isn't indicated by visual design at all. Overall no matter if it stays or is removed i wouldn't be angry either way
The V-Spot I would guess is caused by explosion damage potentially hitting the tentacles as separate hitboxes? Or when you shoot high on the face the explosion doesn’t register.
26:14 AT mines + airburst launcher one shots the impaler. I’ve tested it, you have to throw the mines basically on top of the impaler, wait for the mines, then shoot the airburst launcher and watch it die. Plz test it if you don’t believe me
@maplewoodLIVE Worth noting that 3 commando shots to the back leg will kill an impaler. By far the most convient way to kill one. Head does not need to be in the ground. Front legs seem to have a health pool with the head where as back legs do not.
very true we found this in testing that the back legs had less health and the commando took less shots but the neck is just such an easy target and took 3 shots to kill in the vspot! But thank you for mentioning!
I like the impaler, very cool enemy, dangerous enough to make a difference on the battle field but easy enough to kill that it offsets its lethality. I do hate the ragdoll. If a tentacle spawns under you, you literally get launched high up in the air and die from the fall. They need to fix that, I don’t mind getting bitch slapped, but getting launched across the map is no fun.
Here's a crucial Q: did you see anything at all where the tentacles might indicate something about where the Impaler's body is at? Something about their orientation?
In what world are you not just using an orbital strike or 500kg to 1 shot these things? They don’t move they’re the easiest enemy to kill with stratagems
On higher difficulties you've sometimes got bile titans and behemoths around as well, so you need to be able to deal with heavies without the OPS (literally the best strat right now) sometimes.
I just....I don't have an answer for these fucking impalers. They come out of a breach after I already have shit tons of bugs on me and then I'm fucked. 500kg isn't reliable, along with everything else I've fucking tried. You're just fucking stun locked. Anyone have success??
Okay it's making me crazy that you call it a V-spot. 😳 It's clearly an A-spot. And we'll never see one of these guys upside-down to where it looks like a V. Or maybe call it the great M.
its so nice watching someone who understands the game go over stuff - very very interesting to know it has a weakpoint in its weakpoint though
so many people posting things dont understand anything and im like bruhhh
Ah my favorite HD2 tester and reviewer. Thanks for putting out the content.
So glad I found this channel bc I started feeling crazy for enjoying the game.
Same everyone else bitching meanwhile I have no complaints
I think people have a point and the nerfs, at least following the current reasoning, are very bad for the longevity of the game... I am not a fan of the nerfs at all. But that said, I'm still having fun too. I try to vary my choices anyway so I didn't feel absolutely gutted by the nerfs.
I'd love it if you'd show some more gameplay along side the descriptions. Staring at a chart for almost 30mins isn't ideal imo.
Thanks for the testing though, very informative.
Time to jetpack on the impaler and see what happens.
Beautiful. Nice video, this is how you build a community
Appreciate ur take mate. Keep up the good quiet work!
I use the Machine gun support weapon and found that shooting it's open "fleshy" side at maximum BPS when it's head is in the ground, kills it pretty quickly.
i like the breakdown
enjoy your approach
you and Eravin are worth my sub
Very few channels not complaining about the patch and actually doing good work. You have a new sub from me sir.
Keep up the good work! Cant wait for new tierlists after warbond drops
Ever the sweet to OhDough's salt. Appreciate your insights!
OhDough didn’t even complain about impalers being hard to kill, just the ragdoll???
@@s2wuolf508 No, he's just salty in general lol
@@s2wuolf508I was cursing up a storm last night, I was being thrown around like a goddamn hacky sack, legitimately the most miserable thing I've experienced in a hot minute
I'm taking close notes on this video and exacting my revenge soon
@RichSmithson I didn’t even agree with that? You’re taking the comment as if I was complaining they were hard to kill lmao
@RichSmithson you need to at least read the comment if you're going to talk crap lol
Thank you for testing sir
Love the positivity, I've been enjoying this update immensely. Crossbow ftw!
Best info provider we appreciate it!
The new acid rain is so fun. The hmg can kill literally anything because armor pen values go down. You can shoot bile titans in the face and get hit markers. It’s actually really fun
I was surprised the first time I murderated impaler really fast with the heavy machine gun.
Great video, I will miss the flame thrower, but thank you for your science and help in overcoming the nerfs.
Appreciate all you do brotha
0:15 Nice editing.
Be careful as to not get close to the face when you are shooting at it.
There is a very common bug that will launch you into space when his tentacles recoil back to him
To infinity and BEYOND
Thank you so much for doing this work! Great analysis. My only comment is both the autocannon and grenade launcher took 5 shots to the vspot to kill but you ranked AC top of S-tier and GL mid A-tier. Not sure why this is, I'd love your thoughts.
Does smoke nades and smoke stratagems work to counter/ escape / engage them? There wasn't much detail here there might be a use case scenario to directly counter or support the team when fighting impailers?
I would assume that the arc thrower might arc BETWEEN the hit boxes depending on angle, so if you were slightly further to the side it might arc through all 3 hit boxes at the front.
Great video! Would it be possible for you to put all this data on a spreadsheet to easily refer to in the future? Appreciate your testing.
Very nice and logical video!! Congrats! Only thing that, for me, B tier is the Not good tier. Lower then that is trash tier. xD
I think impaler is the bug equivalent of the gunships. As soon as the tentacles (gunships) appear, you have to drop everything and find the impaler (gunship factory).
Stalkers are kinda similar but sometimes you can just run away, but you can't do that with the impaler because the tentacles can reach all the way across the map which is pretty broken, hopefully they fix that.
this is very good info to have because these mfs have been tearing my ass UP
Another enemy with weird/buggy hitboxes/visuals. Amazing work AH
watching you in fast forward on thiccs live feed was hilarious
Impailer is a no1 threat. I've noticed if you don't run directly at the impailer if it's at a distance you will get caught by the tentacles everytime. Anymore than one is a a nightmare.
The issue is this usually means running into a horde of Termanids so this unit counters your kite strat completely and forces you to fight. Jet pack might be an effective tool to close the distance so you can get a stratagem off accurately.
If they could just tweak the speed or activation of the tenticle slap animation so it doesn't hit you 100% of the time and gives you a chance to juke the slam that would be fun, like you can juke the bile titan spit attack, this seems like a death sentence if there is more than one of these.
I want to try baiting a bile titan towards an impaler.
100% its like stalkers drop everything and find it!!
I wish there was a better way to know where the tentacles were coming from, though. Having them be a priority and changing my target to them is okay, but when I have a horde of ravenous animals drooling to get me like I'm the last iphone at a store during Black Friday, and I have tentacles violating me like I'm in a japanese adult game at the same time, I don't have time to play hide and seek.
Jetpack actually helps you if you manage to land on top of those mountain rocks. For example, at the extraction, I climbed one of those rocks and the tentacle just stood there. It couldn’t hit me from where I was standing and they can’t spawn on top, allowing you all the time in the world to kill it. Also works as a tank so that those tentacles don’t go after your friends. Main reason why I put the jetpack on a high tier.
Also one thing that you should have tested is to test normal weapons on it. On level 10, there’s not one scenario where I’m not juggling between weapons. I use the eruptor so if any of those stratagems that have cooldowns do enough damage, you could potentially one tap them with your normal weapons. I haven’t personally tested it but when the railcannon strike doesn’t kill it, I can finish it off with a combo of quick swapping between the eruptor and the bushwhacker (it cancels the reload time and animation).
Finally someone who isnt complaining.
Nice video by the way! 💕
Legendary find
Whats the counter when there is two and they spawn behind cover in the middle of a bug breach and im the only one that brought breach control stratagems and im on cooldown because the other players are not contributing to anything
I've been using the flamethrower and jet pack very effectively against the Impaler. First you bait it into trying to attack you with it's tentacles and then use the jump pack to rapidly close the distance and flame it in the face.
Thank you for the testing, great job! I have a request, if you would, I have noticed the charger legs work differently.
I stripped the armor with a Quasar, and was getting non damage icons after shooting the same leg with a dominator.
How?
making a tier list on weapon effectiveness against untested digital H.I.V.
You forgot the anti tank mines
😆
What are those!
He mentioned them in the video. They suck. That's why we saved the kids.
@@ANIMEniacReview which planet to get to save the children I know which one
haha the Impaler doesnt move much so getting it to step on them is a pain and a 3min cooldown is rough!
Great video. No Luna though :(
Need 18+ warning on vid for v-spot 😂
good to know the eat can kill vlad the impaler
I had this silly moment where a tentacle launched me into the air and I was killed mid-air by a falling hellpod
You can kill a impaler in three shots with a grenade launcher if you get to the side of it and shoot just over its right shoulder towards the front basically hitting the underside of the neck. On Dif 10 I run grenade launcher and shield back pack to keep the tentacles and small enemies from staggering me
Does anyone know if stuf grenades work on impaler?
AH : You said hidden weaknesses? Got it, we will fix them in the next update.
hello twitch chat from 6ish hours ago
Recommendation, I highly recommend Grenade launcher + supply pack with tier 10. SO SO SO much fun and Im often the one killing the impalers.
Honestly, i don't mind the existence of the "v-spot". It feels like a bug of some kind, but at the same time it doesn't break anything and using it is based more on skill than luck, so it seems like a nice place to express player skill.
At the same time i wouldn't be mad at all if it gets fixed for sake of consistency in gameplay since it can feel random and isn't indicated by visual design at all.
Overall no matter if it stays or is removed i wouldn't be angry either way
rocket pod can one shot, but Eagle has to come in at the right angle so is unreliable
The V-Spot I would guess is caused by explosion damage potentially hitting the tentacles as separate hitboxes? Or when you shoot high on the face the explosion doesn’t register.
We thought similar but over time I realized that the mouth is also a great weakspot and I believe the V spot is an extension of it
Let me speed this video up… bring orbital rail cannon problem solved
Wut.. Orb. Precision u mean
26:14 AT mines + airburst launcher one shots the impaler. I’ve tested it, you have to throw the mines basically on top of the impaler, wait for the mines, then shoot the airburst launcher and watch it die. Plz test it if you don’t believe me
@maplewoodLIVE Worth noting that 3 commando shots to the back leg will kill an impaler. By far the most convient way to kill one. Head does not need to be in the ground. Front legs seem to have a health pool with the head where as back legs do not.
very true we found this in testing that the back legs had less health and the commando took less shots but the neck is just such an easy target and took 3 shots to kill in the vspot! But thank you for mentioning!
Frag grenade on + 2 throwables does the trick as well
I like the impaler, very cool enemy, dangerous enough to make a difference on the battle field but easy enough to kill that it offsets its lethality. I do hate the ragdoll. If a tentacle spawns under you, you literally get launched high up in the air and die from the fall. They need to fix that, I don’t mind getting bitch slapped, but getting launched across the map is no fun.
Here's a crucial Q: did you see anything at all where the tentacles might indicate something about where the Impaler's body is at? Something about their orientation?
unfortunately no, I would LOVE to see this in the future. Like a noise or something to know but maybe im missing something!
I had real results with the grenade launcher too
Y'all, the V-spot is somewhere around the neck...
thought it was smth else until I urban dictionary'd it
Just dump a full x-45 commando
HUH ???
Everything's easy with 4 players.
Problem isn't killing it. The problem is finding the damn thing. It sits in the back behind everything. Everyone knows standard AT applies.
Autocannon nerf incomming
lol man forgot about the anti tank mines
In what world are you not just using an orbital strike or 500kg to 1 shot these things? They don’t move they’re the easiest enemy to kill with stratagems
The world where they both are on cool down
On higher difficulties you've sometimes got bile titans and behemoths around as well, so you need to be able to deal with heavies without the OPS (literally the best strat right now) sometimes.
Anyone else having issues with crashes and connections to online lobbys these past days?
I just....I don't have an answer for these fucking impalers. They come out of a breach after I already have shit tons of bugs on me and then I'm fucked. 500kg isn't reliable, along with everything else I've fucking tried. You're just fucking stun locked. Anyone have success??
Okay it's making me crazy that you call it a V-spot. 😳 It's clearly an A-spot. And we'll never see one of these guys upside-down to where it looks like a V. Or maybe call it the great M.
your tier list is absolutely incorrect lmao, stop playing lvl 4 missions
Your ranking system infuriates me.
It actually makes me angry.
Why even make tiers?
Just number them best to worst.
Putting 1/3 of them in A-tier
Gtfo
excellent work and testing. much needed.
rag roll is way to much as its just chain ragdoll and death after death after death.