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Against bots I only go Scorcher. You can snipe the small bots before they even detect you. Shoot scout striders in the leg 3 times and they fall over dead. Its only problem is against the really big boys. For that I use my call ins or my support weapons.

honestly allowing both mech strategems in the loadouts would be so fun, but we dont get to have fun so thats never gonna happen.

Weird how they put an odd # of rounds in the thing that has duel autocannons on both arms. That's 37.5 rounds per gun on 1 arm....someone, please expian.

I disagree with this 'slapping' but glad to see there are some people geting joy out of the mech

It is so refreshing to hear a down to earth non biased opinion. I love the mech. My only problem are the limitations and cool downs, but since I know why they are in place its not that big a deal. Against bots I tend to use the mechs more as a back line fire support platform. So many people are so eager to lead or do their own thing and its nice to get to use them as bait for turrets, tanks and the like. Range is always your number one advantage over the bots. The farther away you engage the harder you are to hit and the more time you have to react.

ok, hear me out: Bug missions, Spear + Emancipator. The spear can 1 shot a bile if it faces your way, you can make it face your way with a quick warning shot and even if it doesn't fully die from one shot to its forehead the exo will make short work of it. It's not meta but it's really fun. If you have trouble with chargers, just remember they cant 180 turn. Dodge sideways into them, 2 sec sprint with light, turn around and give them a headshot with the spear. The build is extrem fun. Not meta but very fun to play and since this patch the Spear has almost fully been fixed.

Holy fuck this guy is delusional

I heard on another video that one of the Emancipators arms is much less accurate than the other? Anyone notice that?

what is this? promoting teamplay and giving advice? you can't just say "one EAT + 4 shots kill a titan". that makes it sound decent. you have to enter the mech, never leave it until you explode and shit talk it like everyone else! on a more serious note... the mech is alright, but it feels like the AC sentry is of similar power, with way lower cooldown and risk involved. also oneshots make it really painful to use vs bots.

A buff i want to see to the thermite is having it apply an area where it reduces armor class. So if you thermite a charger og titans head you can kill it with armor pen 4 instead of 5. Or a hulk could be killed in the eye to medium pen primaries. Just food for thought.

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Yah the thing is your gonna have issues having that coordination in random lobbys, can’t tell you how many times I was annoyed cause I got left with a titan on my mech and no one is there to use AT on it. I think it’s fine if the emancipator isn’t good for titans but the rockets on the 45 patriot should be more consistent at killing chargers and BT

I don't use the mechs because they're too slow. Tried out the new Emancipator mech when it was a free strat on a duo Helldive airbase. Rekt a large drop, mowed down Hulks, Heavy Devs, Rocket Devs, Strider, tank and bunch of little guys. With just the mech. Then marched into the strat jammer base and rekt that too. With the mech. There's nothing wrong with the mech. I see some TH-cam influencers get in one, march it into an open field, aggro EVERYTHING, take heavy weapons fire from 4 directions and then complain when they die a few seconds later. Well, yea. Shoot the ground in front of the little guys, especially when they're clustered. The aoe from the explosion will kill 2-3 per round, instead of aiming for body shots and missing 2/3 times. So yea, fight smart, and kill 10x as much stuff.

we're getting vehicle upgrades?

Ofc its good when it is free. 2 callins in with 10 min cooldown makes it bad. For reference in that time you can call in almost 4 (upgraded) AC sentries which together have almost as much ammo as the mech. The Mech gets 0.25 shots for each second of cooldown, whilst AC sentry gets 0.22 . And of course sentry shots are way stronger , you can still use your own weapons and lastly it has UNLIMITED uses. The mech at the very least needs more ammo or less callin restrictions.

Nah, its trash the AC is way better option, more dmg, more durable part dmg, can resuply, you are smaller target while using AC, more mobile than the ac mech, no limit to 2 per mission, very low cd compared to it, its fun but not usable or good for higher diff

Really the shield backpack can protect the top part of the exosuits?

If it could resupply somehow, the mechs would be soooo much better. Really hope they add that at some point.

Normally, I share a similar mindset with maple but not on this one. The idea that if I bring a superior strategem, to help this strategem, makes it B or A tier is one I can't get behind. It needs to be buffed and adjusted imo. Giving it a pass for its underperformance and clear lack of efficiency to stand on its own isn't the way to go on this one. If anything, I'd say it's your skillset, making it appear better than it truly is. Just my opinion. Still love the content. Aces.

I'm loving the new mech, because of 2 things. First HP/armor amount is amazin, Emancibot can resist even chargers attack. And second I love that I can play Mecha style now, because I can ask for Emancipator, then for Patriot and by the time Patriot is out of ammo I can ask for Emancibot again. I'm 100% loving this gameplay.

NARRATOR's VOICE: "It did in fact not "slap". For the durable dmg to be this low, It just doesn't have enough ammo.

It's definitely not unusable, it just feels like I have to try too hard to make it useful. Add on top of that limited uses, bugs, and frustrating features and it becomes a pretty forgettable stratagem. Still better than the rocket mech though

Cmon it does not slap. It suffers from the usual shit of having USSR gun depression, issues with aiming anywhere further because of lack of well zoom of any sort and still very fragile.

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incendiary breaker is so op its not even funny its killing patrols with 3 clicks from distance on bugs, generally i think all quasar meta is done because this weapon is so good at clearing small bugs that only thing u care about is chager/titan. This weapon need nerf, it outclass any weapon with normal penetration on bugs

Frankly, both mech suits need more HP. I don't know why they have different HPs, but they need to be the same, and much more tanky.

Tenderizer stops bots from calling reinforcements

Orbital Railgun is so overrated i feel, it has a crazy long cooldown, can't kill factory striders, and Orbital Precision Strike already does pretty much the same thing with a smaller cooldown. If you wanted to use it against hulks just bring an AMR and stuns and you're set

I do sorta wish people would talk about the effectiveness of stratagems/weapons as one progresses through the difficulty levels instead of just assuming helldive difficulty.

The thermite is my favorite bulk set it and forget it weapon

I'd put the recoilless rocket honestly A+ or S-. While it doesn't have infinite ammo like the Quasar, you can fire it off immediately when you need to instead of waiting for the Quasars charge up spin. Additionally if you bait a charger to come to you, a well placed rocket to their face is a 1 tap in most situations. Pair this with the hilarious ability to dive then shoot and it makes a hilarious yet cool 1 tap trick shot.

My favorite thing about the jetpack is that it gives you time to do things like reload and enter in strategem commands. On top of that it's a very reliable dodge. I've gotten away form seas of bugs with the jet pack, only to enter a command for an airstrike and turn a sure death into a bug wipe.

Breaker Spray and Pray would be cool as a one handed, kinda sawed off variant of the breaker, and would gain a niche without a big stat change

After 270 hours in mission (not logged but actual game play)and the vast majority of them against bots...close to 50K bot kills versus close to 30K bug kills.... The Plasma Punisher is my hands down pick for the best primary for bots. Far better than the Dominator because of its AoE. Just about every game I have multiple times where I am getting 8 to 10 kills PER SHOT. Yeah there are only 8 before reload but when bots are grouped the PP is just devastating. As to range you are thinking of the gun wrong. It has excellent range you just have think of it as a portable mortar. I can consistently snipe things 100 meters out with it you just have to practice with it. I regularly play with NO support weapon on 7+ with it and just use orbitals, eagles and sentries . What other primaries can do that? The PP is the tippy top of S tier once you learn how it works. If you haven't given the PP a chance you are missing out.

quasar cannon takes out a factory strider in two shots to the eye?

Re air burst RL, wait for the bot drop and fire above the devastators to one shot the factory strider.

I use spray and pray and smoke as my primary load out against bugs and now I'm questioning my entire existence

Scythe, dagger, stun grenade, grenade luncher, ballistic shield, 500k and precision strike was my go to for bots on lvl 9, specifically for terrain missions, scythe kills quickly, and dagger destroy shield devastator with ballistic shield. Was great. With the new weapons change for a new builds that feel so perfect for bots or bugs, that I don’t have to change. Pummeler, grenade pistol, stun grenade, grenade luncher, supply box, 500k and precision strike Really love it 🫶🏻

You know the guy responsible for balancing these weapons have absolute no clue whatsoever of what he is doing when he said shrapnel had negligible impact on damage dealt by the Eruptor, and the moment he removes the shrapnel while buffing the damage, the weapon lost a lot of its power. And everyone who played the damn game instead of looking at spreadsheets knew the shrapnel which murdered the enemies. They even made a stupid change that allowed the shrapnel to murder us, which caused all subsequent problems.

Honestly i prefer the recoiless rifle over the quasar cannon. You can take down bile titans with it super fast with animation cancels and can kill chargers at command without having to sit still and charge up a shot while it rams you down. It can also deal with shrieker nests and spore spewers far away at a safe range. The requirement for a backpack just means you can slot in another strategem without needing a backpack crutch. To me the recoiless is S tier for bugs for me.

punisher plasma and purifier have a damage different in projectile damage, PP has 100 damage light pen and purifier have 100 damage med pen, thats only different, you need 7 dorminator shot with 300 damage to kill minigun on strider, that mean you need 21 shot on purifier to kill it, that why whole mag still not kill it

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The purifier is not a a-, it’s not got enough damage to hit the break point to kill in less shots than the scorcher, which fires 2.5x faster.

If they nerf the JAR again Im done with the game. Straight up

Purifier blows goats lmao

Another check mark in the pro column for the incendiary breaker, with stalkers having better stealth now You can just blast your entire screen and if a pellet hits a stalker you'll be able to see it really easily

I just don’t agree with the Eruptor placement. Sure, utility is fine for a support or secondary but you’re giving up your ability to deal with pretty much any amount of mobbing and that’s just not worth it at all imo. Anything it can do there are weapons that can do the same just as fast if not faster. One shot a devastator? Diligence CS. Wanna snipe a hulk? AMR. Wanna close holes from a distance? Grenade pistol AND grenade launcher-arc is skill issue. It just doesn’t have a place-you even said you wouldn’t run it. When it was a mini support as a primary it enabled us to run things like the stalwart or machine gun for mob clear and build diversity but now? Why run those or the eruptor at all? C-tier at best, my guy.

Staggering is very important against those bots.

That Sickle placement is overrated.