This should NOT be inside a brand new Hamilton Khaki field watch! 😭🤬😳
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- Lovely watch but what was quality control doing?!
Hamilton Khaki mechanical hand wound H69449
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You had me scared there for a minute. I thought you were going to show us plastic wheels or something.
Ditto. Just got my Khaki Field Watch yesterday, so I'm glad the video had a happy ending. 😊
Ahahaha scared me too
Synthetic oil - made from fossil oil - in a watch is fantastic, synthetic "ruby" or other parts - made from fossil oil (aka "plastic") - is "crap"... very weird.
Wonderful video as always sir! As for my favorite for "affordable" mechanical, too many to list!! ,But bang for buck, my Universal Geneve "White Shadow" designed by Genta, however what is really cool is the beautiful micro rotor automatic movement inside too. Patek hired the same engineer soon and created their most important movement, the Calibre 240. I am sure you know how crucial it is to them, it save their brand. A fascinating story I did a video on, sorry shameful plug there. But the White Shadow was amazing value, costing not much more than the Hamilton in this video!
Best regards,
TGV
My favorite is the Explorer 36mm from 2008, a watch I purchased as a retirement watch after 21 yrs in the Army.
My favourite watch is usually the one I recently restored. Thanks Kalle.
I have a Bulova "Hack" which is similar to the Kahki Field. My favourite watch is a Tissot quartz chronograph that my wife got me 20 years ago. Its 38mm so wears really well. Many modern watches, especially chronograph are huge. I also have my late fathers Titoni Airmaster- a lovely piece, nearly 70 years old and running perfect. A brand you don't see much in the UK, as they don't distribute here for some reason.
It's funny how things are so relative, depending on ones background. I heard inexpensive and a good deal, then looked the watch up. Over $500 is an expensive watch, to me! The Rolex and other brands up and above are simply pure fantasy, like a Ferrari or such. Haha, like I said it's all relative.
I remember getting into watches in college, and reading 'Best budget watches under $1000' articles, and just being unable to understand. I was buying $20 watches, and $200 was expensive. Here I am many years later and $200 bucks is a budget watch. Still love them $20 Casios though.
Agreed to some degree. Everything is relative, of course.
If you're new to the hobby and want something built to the same level but for much less money. Try aliexpress and Chinese watches to start with.
I own a number of Swiss pieces that retail for over $500 and also aliexpress watches from San martin and seestern. My san martin and seestern are built as well or better than swiss pieces from tissot and glycine. The only difference is in the "quality of movements" and swiss made on the dial.
Although my eta 2825-2 and 2824-2 aren't as accurate as my nh35.
Cheers and have fun with the hobby. Start small and build your way up
The Hamilton Khaki range can sometimes be had for less than $500.
While I rotate watches in my collection, and therefore do not focus wear on any given watch, I do not expect Hamilton watches to break easily. In a world of disposable everything, decently made mechanical watches are an exception.
I've always liked watches. But mine were sub $50. Then 10 yrs ago I "stepped up" and bought a couple watches that were $200 each. Luxury watches were a fantasy, and I thought I'd be crazy to spend 500 on a single watch. Since then, I bought that $500 watch. Then bought and sold many $1k watches. And now I recently purchased my first $1800 timepiece. Also in due time, I hopefully see myself acquiring a $3k watch. Never say never. 🙂
Totally agree!
In this Moment i'm wearing my "Casioak". Very robust like a G Shock should be. Accurat and with the bluetooth function very versatile. Charged by sunlight. For me a very good bang for the buck.
I have the automatic version of this (Khaki Field Auto). To me this is a perfect entry level Swiss watch that can be worn everywhwere.
80 hour power reserve and free sprung balance is indeed impressive for such a low priced watch. Too bad about the stray fiber, but nobody has perfect QC, especially with ETA's production volume.
Thanks for doing the real research Kalle & co. ❤
I now have 2 Invicta Pro Divers, and 2 Chinese "Tandorio" watches, all with NH35A, aka 4R35. Lovely calibre, and I tweaked them within COSC! The automatics are neat, because you cannot over-wind them.
I fell in love with the divers when I saw them, but the one I wear all the time is a 39mm homage of the British MoD W10 before the tonneau case. I also have the tonneau style in 36mm, as a 'Sunday" watch.
After 45 years with quartz, I wanted to go without batteries. Turns out, solar needs new batteries too, lasts longer, but not forever. I did get a Casio WVA-M630D solar with radio time receiver, but I never wear it, just use it as reference.
I think I could have spent that money better on another model railway locomotive.
Actually the fiber does not surprise me very much. My Hamilton Khaki Field Auto came back from service last time with the case-back not screwed tight. I wondered about a noise when moving my arm only to find out I move the case-back within its screw thread.
Congratulations ! This is the real watchmaking. Thanks a lot !
Regards
Favorite watch is the Seiko 5 SRPE “Dress KX”. Simple watch but elegant and I really enjoy having it.
Great inside look into these little miracles
I gravitated to these Khaki Field watches after researching railroad grade pocket watches, then navigation watches, but ultimately ended up back at a 60's Ball Trainmaster Automatic. The former train hopper in me couldn't resist. Currently seeing -30 sec/day on a $200USD eBay find. Not a bad starting point.
Currently my favorite watch is a Solvil et Titus stainless steel with a beads of rice bracelet and a Peseux 7001 movement. Super cheap and runs like a champ
I would like to thank you for opening my eyes to the Tissot and the Hamilton.So many nice words and reviews were said about these watches and it took you to show us ordinary folk the truth.Wanted to ask you what watch would you recommend for around 4,000 euros.I love watches but that is as high i would go price wise and please include used ones also.Thank you again in advance.
I have a Khaki from the 80s. Big bold "Khaki" text on the dial face. One of my favs for sure.
I recently bought the Hamilton Khaki steel case automatic and its everything you mentioned. Super accurate, easy to read, long reserve. I love it
have you ever owned Seiko 5s so far? Cuz I have one now and I am looking for a swiss movement watch...not sure whether to go with Khaki field automatic or Nivada Grenchen. I want to get one which is more accurate and has a little bit more power reserve
The khaki field I have is accurate to one second a day and has 80 hrs reserve. Great watch
Just got my first watch that cost more than $30, went with a Citizen Chandler chronograph field watch. Love it so far and already looking in to Hamilton and Seiko for my next
my favorite watch is always the one i decide to wear that day, one of about 30 i‘ve accumulated over the past 30 years…
Disappointing that you found that object in the movement.....and it IS a VERY high quality movement, indeed.
I just discovered your channel and I love the microscopic view of the Hamilton watch movement. So, I’ve liked the video and I am now a subscriber.
Great video, quick question what do yiu make of the Powermatic 80? Thanks
I have this watch with the eta 2804 movement, I far prefer it on the touch and go powermatic movements and spent some time tracking one down. Very enjoyable videos, videography is well done and always informative and interesting.
Vintage Jaeger-LeCoultre 18ct Rose Gold 481calibre Power reserve, automatic. Cost £700 , now with JLC for service.
STOWA T02 is, a beautiful watch with an eta caliber 2824-2,top grade movement I have a Red second hand and it is number 001 .
I have a lovely automatic wind Perseo my wife bought for me in Puglia , Italy about 25 years ago for about 300 euros or so. Never been serviced, still going strong!😊
Thanks for showing us.
I got a free Hamilton Kaki because it had a broken mainspring.
I replaced the spring and just love this watch. ETA movement.
I got my Hamilton for free due to a shipment error. I ordered it straight from Hamilton, and it was "lost" in shipping. Hamilton refunded my money, and it arrived a week later. I contacted Hamilton, and was told to keep it, and not to worry about the payment. I'm definitely buying another watch from them.
Thank you!
I’m more into vintage and antique watches. Confining my choices to wristwatches, in terms of value and bang for your buck, I’d have to say vintage Longines, such as the model called the Flagship with the 30L movement, vintage Gruen, for example an early Curvex with the 311 movement, the Universal Geneva Polerouter with one of the microrotor calibers and vintage Cortebert all offer some terrific watches that are excellent value for money.
Longines were up there and at least as good as Omega and Rolex when the 30L movement was made.
Some vintage Cortebert watches contain movements that Cortebert also made for Rolex, but the Rolex watches with the same movement are of course far more expensive.
I don’t own one, but in terms of watches currently in production, Frederique Constant often seem to deliver a lot of watch for your money.
Watches with Chinese movements based upon the Venus 175, like the Seagull 1901 are certainly the only column wheel chronographs in their price bracket!
The best stuff on TH-cam,intresting and 5 stars presenter. thanks.
At this moment, I am wearing my Sternglas Naos Automatic (Miyota 8215 movement, non-hacking). My best bang-for-the-buck watch, however, is my cheapo beater Hong Kong microbrand watch, the Boderry Voyager...titanium case, titanium case back, titanium screw-down crown, 100 meters water resistant, Seiko NH36 movement, all for the low price of $87.30 USD. The watch I WANT to get next is the Baltic Aquascaphe...Miyota 9039 movement...it would be my first (and probably only) 28,800 vph watch.
What about pushpin on the buckle? If that fails you will lose the watch then, wouldn't you?
Im wearing my Hamilton Murph 38 on a bracelet. It has +2spd accuracy.The same as my chronometer Tudor BB58. It is bang for the buck for its quality & im a huge fan of Interstellar movie. It is the watch that save humanity
Thank you for the video, can you tell me what are those what looks like cracks in the metal towards the bottom of the screen. (squiggly lines)
My favourite is the Roamer 44 jewels, keeps perfect time, nicely made movement.
Easy to shit on a plastic escapement but can we see some evidence it’s actually worse? This isn’t holding a bridge up, it’s barely under any force. Plastic isn’t going to break
The SEIKO 5 - SNXS77K is the best looking entry level automatic watch , Around 150 Dollars sometimes on discount for even less , the only issue is it has no Hacking function , for People with larger wrists 37mm can be to small , but all in all , this is a Great watch for your Money if you don't expect perfection , with a working horse movement and day date function plus beautiful blue dial .
Best bang for the buck to me is my Seiko SNZG09. Perfect readability. I think I payed €70.- for it 5 years ago, second hand in perfect condition.
Well every hand in perfect condition.. with 'second hand' I mean pre-owned.😁
Me too. 😁
Recently purchased a Unitas 6498 NOS and that will be my daily wear as soon as I clean oil and regulate it. All Swiss parts to finish it and a supple calf skin cuff to attach it to my wrist.
What do you think of the plastic movement spacer?
Great stream Kalle. Nice item to check modern watch movements. Hamilton never my thing. Great value for the money? Maybe, but little attention for QC. A fiber that size in the movement.... Not acceptable. Nice that it has a better servicable movement than the Tissot, but that's it...
I like my Yema Superman. Never opened the case, but I will..🖖
If this guys says it’s a good value watch, I’m gonna consider getting it.
Best value for me is Orient Star Modern Skeleton. I think I paid £185 grey market around 4 years ago. Beautiful watch.
Beste Kalle,
My favorite watch is my daily wearer. Tudor Pelagos 25500tn. The first version with the eta (runs wonderfull) and the lume pip at 3.
I once learned from my granddad that the best cookie, the one is in your hand. In this case, this watch almost never leaves my hand (so i suppose it must be my favorite).
As always, thanks for all your wonderfull content.
Groetjes uit De Haan, Vlaanderen.
How difficult would it be to regulate a movement like this? I’ve heard the Hamilton movements can be tricky.
My favorite watch in terms of value for money? Glycine combat sub. Got mine for under $400. Swiss movement, very accurate. Taken it on many adventures and it’s held up perfectly. Would love to see a breakdown from you guys on one.
There is no need to regulate this movement as it is automatically regulated pretty well by laser from the factory. But, it is possible yes, the watchmakers who trained to work on variations of Powermatic 80 can easily do it.
Hi Kalle. Is there any chance you could overhaul an aircraft clock? Many thanks for your informative videos. I’m slowly putting my arsenal together and only have to take the leap of faith to start. Wouldn’t mind coming to Netherland for some instruction. Many thanks, Frank from Adelaide South Australia
.....i've owned one of these for four years now (it has never stopped running except for hacking during the entire period). gains about three seconds a day. many thinks for showing me the inside!
Watchmaking.👍 Thanks!
I really like my Seiko Explorer, with the classic green dial 🍀at beads of rice bracelet.
My best "bang for your buck" watch was a Tissot Couturier "Day Date" for around 250 Euros. From Jomashop.
Mido Oceanstar flyer GMT for $1300 retail a 200m water resistant, 80hr. Pwr reserve watch is the best value in Swiss watches.
but 50 mm lug tu lug
Every Citizen Promaster to 500$ is better deal and better quality then what you got for 1300$. Even Automatic one's they have and those with Eco drive and solar powered.
Have a khaki bronze. Love that watch. One of my most worn pieces.
Reminiscent of my $70K dollar Omega that came with an eyebrow in the balance spring.
Sounds like you got some extra “bang” for your buck, there
i have a hamilton khaki navy with a similar movement, but mine is automatic. i had it serviced after 7 years and the Miami service center said it had low amplitude, so i got a full service. they also said the crown was stripped, not sure how i managed that, but i do have to unscrew to wind it 40 turns. this is enough to get me to monday morning since i don't wear it on the weekends. it has a nice power reserve of 70 hrs, making this possible
Wearing it in the week should grant you majority of these 70 hours on friday evening. Monday morning is, at worst, 60 hours away. So in theory, no winding was necessary.
Also I'm not a strong fan of screw down crowns and I consider Seiko's decision to ditch this feature from SRPD series watches absolutely great. They still retain 100m water resistance, but without the risk of ever stripping the threads.
Want to secure the crown? Design it so it locks against the case when in default position. Yeah, it may be required to place it in a set of specific positions to depress it fully (f.e. if there's a hexagonal shape at the bottom of the crown that fits in a slow in the case) but it's still WAY more convenient than having to screw it.
And if you do not want it to get bumped to position 1 by accident - with proper crown guards and reasonable crown size, it has like 0 chance of happening, especially underwater when there's additional pressure holding it in place.
That foreign thread-like pc is quite shocking in a brand new watch. Could have affected the time keeping drastically.
Seiko 6R55 is my current favourite.
Greetings from Greece.
Those big gears look like something from the Grainger catalogue.
I got a brand new Hamilton Chronograph on which the date drive wheel was misaligned...
Is this really an anti-magnetic shield or is it just there to retain the movement?
Well, things happen as we know . . . But we have to be sure to spot them before we call it done.
Hello,
My favorite one is the seiko MM300 very good value for money for a professional Diver ..👌
Rrally nice content 👏🏼👏🏼 you have a niche content. I think that lotes of watch enthusiasts are interested of finding out how the mechanichs of new wathes worg and if they are any good. Ex: the Tissot PRX...
Lower-end Swatch Group quality control.... Why am I not surprised.
Thanks for another informative video! Can this movement be serviced by a watchmaker or is it something you have to send back to Hamilton or Swatch Group Service Center? I own a Hamilton Pilot Pioneer Mechanical (36mm W10) with this movement in it! Runs well and keeps amazing time! As for bang for buck? This watch or my Pilot Pioneer is a good contender or the original first issue Serica field watches with the ETA 2801-2. Unfortunately they have moved to a Soprod movement and gone automatic, not a fan.
As a watchmaker how do you rate the powermatic 80 line of movements? Is it worth it? What about repairs?
I would like to know why you opened a new watch. Was the fibre causing poor performance?
Mostly to show the difference with the C07.xxx from Tissot. The fibre was a complete surprise.
I got myself a Hamilton Jazzmaster Performer for my graduation which has a H10 movement inside it. It seems to work fine but Hamilton doesn't give a lot of spec. info. for their movements. Hoping you guys could answer a couple of my questions if you have come across one. First, does Hamilton-modified ETA really modified or it's the same as the ETA movement it claims to modify? Second, is H10 a 3Hz or a 4Hz movement?
Hoi hoi, heerlijk om van jou te leren! Mijn bang for the bucks is de seiko laurel alpinist!
Lekker lange gangreserve: ben overigens ook wèg van de swatch 51, wat vind jij van dat uurwerk?
does it still fog?
The new Longines Conquest 41mm seem like a good value
Tissot 1938 heritage, good video cul slap 👍
My favorite watch Rado true open heart with blue clock face
Is the dial also made of soft iron for protecting the movement against magnetic fields from the frontside?
Due to health reasons and for convinience of communication I'm using a smartwatch with 24/7 heartrate monitoring.
Best bang for the buck? Seiko 5 and Citizen (Quartz) with just 3 hands.
Dreams? The sky is the limit! 😂
Which models have the plastic/silicone escapement? I hear conflicting things, so I wanted to be sure, before buying one. Thank you 🙏
Here I am wearing that exact same watch and strap! 😳
Usually a Bronze watch has a stainless steel back to prevent allergies and green marks on wrist ?
My favorite is certina and citizen.
hahaha een gewone normale palletvork !! kalle een hanhart 417 ES de nieuwe cronograaf heel gaaf ook de geschiedenis alles en voor een super goede prijs
yeha at least no plastic escapement haha
Scared me,i thougt it has a plastic parts or smthing
Yes, it should be in their.
I can highly recommend taking a look at the MIDO "Multifort Chronometer 1" for a superb Swiss watch at around 1500 Euros.
Made in China...most of components made or even assembled in China and sold as Swiss Made.
@@The_Touring_Jedi, you are wrong
@@cruisemissle87 Lot's of watchmakers are doing this. It does not mean watch is not worth the money. Making such watch in Switzerland would be less profit for the company as working force is too expensive. Most moved to Asia for assembly and production. Or at least parts are made in Asia and only movement is placed in the watch and QC at the end which does not need much time for expirienced worker.
@@The_Touring_Jediread up, "Swiss Made" legally means at least 60% of the creation plus assembly and QC in Switzerland.
@@cruisemissle87 Creation gor sure is Swiss, even parts maybe. But movement assembly is made in Asia and rest of the work. Back in Switzerland only movement completed installed, QC packed and ready for sale.Swiss Made regarding watches are very few and you and I can probably not afford those. This is reality. It still does not mean your watch is not worth that money or it has not the quality. Cheers
I've been looking for that fiber, couldn't remember where I dropped it, ha, ha
OMG it’s insane😂
I won an ebay auction that no one else bid on for $49 and received 21 watches . To my surprise there was a Mido Commander and a 1943 Longines Cal 12.68 N still running nice but dial needs a total refurb. the rest were all Bostok watches.
Got any decent 2209 movements? You can regulate those to 2 seconds a day if they haven't been dropped since their last service.
I have a one in a Cornivan, needs a stem and crown.
thanks for the tip
@@petejones7281 Parts are available :)
Is this watch the bronze version or just gold looking?
Bad waterproof min 100m,50m field watch has never made sense to me
this is why I have none
CWC G10 was only 50m and that was good enough for the British Forces for 30 years.
good eye!
1950s JLC bumper
El control de calidad ha fallado en un reloj suizo es imperdonable, le saco una tremenda tarjeta roja, he dicho
Plastic or not. Tissot Gentleman Powermatic 80 Silicium ice blue. Best bang. Tissot Seastar 1000 40mm black.
My Hamilton Khaki King
A fiber!! Maybe the quality control was better at the factory in Lancaster, Pennsylvania where 3 generations of my family were employed?
Well there is a reason it’s Swiss now.
You Really Believe a $400 Watch is Swiss Made? You Do know about 'Swiss Made Law' ....Don't you?
@@highwaystar3780 Yes I know, but do you know what a Rolex costs in parts? No €3,895 for the cheapest model.
Nice looking movement.
It is a manual-wind version of the ETA Powermatic 80 but without the plastic pallet fork
and the normal metal hairspring
Eek , whats inside a tandorio nh35
Mido Baroncelli
Who's to say when the fibre got in the movement, still looks like a cheap movement , i'd take a seagull st 2130 any day over this .
JAH JAH nice watch looks like a Rolex a pain in the ass to adjust time and worse No special tool to do that timing adjustment
Wow