Inside Seiko 5 - The fun facts 💪😎
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my seiko 5 actus was running well for almost 40 years with no service. A few years ago i spent around 65 euros for a total servicing. I knew that i could buy anew seiko 5 for around 100 euros, but it would not be the same. The watchmaker mad such a nice job, that my watch now looks and works like a new one. emotional value is more important than commercial value of a watch
I knew that i could buy anew seiko 5 for around 100 euros
Seikos re not sold so cheaplyy and those versions are not produced anymore so can you reformulate your speech MAKES NO SENSE:
It's around 250-300 euros
So for that price, almost certainly what they did was take the movement out, throw it in the trash and put a new one in. So in a sense it's almost not the same watch.
I just took my paid gig for a seiko skx with sentimental value to a man and i offered him the option of a simple movement swap or to do a full service and cleaning and repair of the original movement of which he seems to have trashed the hairspring in a fall. He opted for the latter. Because the watch has so much sentimental value for him he's paying about 270 bucks on the service and is happy to do it.
you can buy a rusted seiko or a serviced seiko, for sure prices will be too differente.
I love the fact that you correctly called it a “ low entry level “ rather than a “ cheap “ watch like a lot of people and watch aficionados do. Love your channel !
Thank You from Canada !
Facts.
I put my Seiko 5 through my military service 1990. Believe me a tough watch.
Did you see action though?
@@razormonkey5000 . The intake 1990 January and August we were fully trained for operational deployment but the conflict was finalised and all troops extracted by 1990. 👍🏻
I am the man behind the gun in Gulf war and Kargil war wearing my Seiko 5 with 6319 movement without any servicing yet. So yes! my Seiko have seen lot of action back in 80s. IT IS TOUGH! BELIEVE ME.@@razormonkey5000
I use mine daily at work. Tough nut I tell you.
@@razormonkey5000depending on which job you have, being in combat versus field training exercises, the watches will be put through intense punishment either way.
Thanks for giving my humble but beloved Seiko Fives some love. I have 7 with another on the way. Great video!
im an automotive technician with an engineering diploma
ive been to a few countries for varius engineering seminars.germany ,italy ,japan
what ive noticed and was really surprising is that japanese from low end mechanics to to high end engineers and high ranked CEO's all wore casios , seikos citizens, orients .
they never show off.
everything they said they wanted us to understand exactly why they mean and the reason for it
amazing culture amazing people .
their mindset is what they put to their products
THEY KNOW, WE BELIEVE CRSP
In the 90’s I worked with Japanese engineers to Americanize and Europeanize Japanese products. Their laser like focus to cost effective solutions was a lesson. Seeing that reversing mechanism brings it all back.
Nice video.
Never have your nose up so high in the air in this hobby that you can't appreciate these amazing Seiko affordable workhorse movements.
As a little boy I always had a fascination with watches, but I never knew how amazing they were until I became an adult and understood the difference between quartz and automatics. I love my Seiko automatic watches. And I still have a Seiko quartz I bought 25 years ago
Seiko is the best watch company in the world, period.
I HAVE TO AGREE, CAPS
I completely agree. People look at me like I’m crazy. In a room full of zenith, omega you name it…i would choose Seiko if I could truly only have one.
well i prefer patek, have a nice day..
Seiko is such a sweet brand with an awesome history of making in-house movements and watches of incredible historical importance.
I'd rather own a rolex or longines, but seiko is a close second/third for me.
The problem is, I feel they are losing their way with degraded value for money and a stream of endless limited additions. Offering hardlex and 4r movements for 600+ is wild.
but they did buy aprts to orient factory.even today if you want a seiko part you can find a orient and swap it.All watchmakers know that
It’s interesting Seiko philosophy on 5 movements, from 7s26 non hack, non hand wind movements and in the same period did the opposite. In the ‘80’s they used both the non hand wound movements and the 4219 auto and hand wound. Their simplification of a lot is amazing .
You rightly speak of the "Love of mechanical watches." Many in the Seiko 5 line have display backs which serves to allow people to appreciate the miniature machines that make this all possible. A picture is worth a thousand words.
You forgot to mention that they are affordable 😂
Just kidding, great video like always.
As a Seiko fan, I always enjoy listening to professionals talk about their technical aspects.
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The fact that people pay crazy amounts of money for jewelry that has long been rendered obsolete by smartphones is wild. Don’t misunderstand me, I love watches and I own a fair amount, but I’m not gonna spend a fortune on one when Seiko offers a great value for something most people never even notice on my wrist. Great video.
I'm sorta new at watchmaking, mostly watched your channel and a few others to learn the ins and outs. I started doing it so i could service my own watches, most of which are seikos including several seiko 5's. My first service was on a 7s26, the cheapest five they sold (Speedracer) which i bought just in anticipating of destroying it. 2 years out it's still running at about 275 amplitude and keeps fantastic time.
Since then i've serviced and adjusted about 11 of the things, 7s26's, 7006's and nh36's. One thing i constantly hear in my watchmaker spaces is that seikos are garbage and run at low amplitude and keep poor time. After servicing so many of them, i've now advanced enough to do hairspring work and adjusting the regulator pins and my services seem to be impeccable regularly getting a lasting 275 to 290 amplitude and after adjusting the terminal curve and getting the regulator pins just right it's not uncommon for me to have a six position delta in the 6 to 8 range and on the wrist my last two services/repairs have deviated for one only losing 1 to 0 seconds a day (7s26c) (Again, this is on the wrist performance.), and my most recent which is 0 to 2 seconds a day ( 7s36b).
I think 90% of the perception of the seiko five is that these are mass produced low cost watches, unadjusted with sometimes questionable lubrication from the factory. If you do a good service on them and do a little hairspring work (The terminal curve almost never tracks the regulator arm from the factory and so you gotta reshape it, recenter it in the regulator pins and get those regulator pins real close without binding.). Once you do those things it is remarkable how accurate these watches are, how durable they are. I'm pretty sure i could keep these running for a lifetime.
I've just graduated to my first complicated watch which is a bell matic 4006. I just wanted to give my experience working on these watches as the amount of dismissal they get from watchmakers is imo not warranted. Are they high precision chronometer finally decorated movements? Of course not. Are they workhorses that CAN run incredibly well with a little massaging and take a beating at an amazing value price? Absolutely!
Have you worked at all on the 6r35? My SPB207 looses lots of time and has massive positional variance :/
I owned an old Seikomatic weekender, which is probably an early 60s model with an engraved picture of a dolphin fish at the back of the cover. It look old and is a simple time and date keeper. What surprised me was that with such an aged instrument, the accuracy was superb, as precise as a quartz watch. It beat my other mechanical watches.
Seiko makes a fantastic watch for a great price. The aftermarket parts availability is out of this world too! I've built a few Seiko mod watches based on the NH35 (4R35) movement. Going to be be servicing and restoring a Citizen dive watch with a Miyota 8205/8215 later this week, which is the entire reason I decided to get into hobbbyist watchmaking in the first place.
As a Seiko collector and fairly new to your chan I was like Oh No the swiss guy will be ripping apart the Japanese brand but I was happy to see the video and the love of all movements you show in the way you talk about things. I have swiss watches as well and I love them all.
Your video on these Seiko 5's is nothing short of brilliant: so informative. Many thanks. 😄
Kalle, I'd be most grateful if you could increase the volume when recording. This will make it easier because when the ads come on, it then becomes very loud.
Seiko is a bargain for what you get. Plus, as an amateur watchmaker Seiko's are so much fun to work on. I have a box full of Seiko parts so almost never have to worry about locating parts and always a good feeling to put one back in service. Good video, Kalle.
Ah !! yes same here, although at the moment I have used most of my parts to restore a number of Seiko's. Some day a nice Grand Seiko is going to be on my wrist.
All of my seikos are vintage autos and none of them have any issues and work beautifully. Orient/Epson also vintage and working beautifully. They’re pretty accurate too. Damn fine units.
I can easily afford an Omega, say, but I love my Seiko 5. The Seiko dials look great, the price is right, they keep time well, and I simply can't justify the price of 'better' high end watches. I'd rather spend it on travel or put it into my retirement. Nice video.
I'm with you there. I've had a Seiko 5 for about 11 years and I love it. I was about to splash 5k on a watch that I really liked, but there was an element of its design that I hated (it was a limited edition with a stupid Top Gun logo on it, otherwise a beautiful watch although I can't remember the brand). I went for the Seiko and have never regretted it.
@@dandare1001 IWC, perhaps?
Thank you sir! It is very much appreciated that you are willing to show a lower-cost brand like Seiko. They are my personal favorite for many reasons. I have ventured into the world of Seiko modding. I could not be happier. The real help, and surprise, comes from Seiko themselves because they completely support the modding community. No other watch brand does this. They make aftermarket movements expressly for this purpose and even allow the reproduction of dials and other parts. they are extremely robust and very inexpensive to work on.
Thanks for sharing that information on Seiko's support for modifications/personalization. 😮😊
Seiko is the Japanese Rolex. I have a snxs79, the 7s26 is unbreakable. I love this watch as much as the expensive ones I also have...
Have you heard of a certain pulsar divers watch that is oil filled? The one I seen was tested at 2990 ft . Pressure without implosion. Only a backplate dented , glass in good shape , and still running 😊
I’ve gained an appreciation of these entry level mechanical Seiikos thanks to your video.
Thanks for your excellent video. I own 3 Seiko´s with 7S26, 2 of the Seiko 5, one SKX 013, all running fine for the past 8 years without regulation. Seiko rules.
SKX013 is such a legendary little watch!
Thank you Kalle, I really enjoyed this episode. Before this episode, I thought you only worked on high-end models!
I totally agree that a watch, even a relatively low cost one like a Seiko 5, is worth restoring if it has sentimental/emotional value to its owner. That alone is priceless.
They are like the Toyota Corolla of watches. Cheap but reliable.
Great video! I have found that in general I prefer less 'decoration' in my collections of things and this goes for watches as well.
It also happens to put into sharp relief how little 'more' you get with Rolex when you see how well the Seiko works and is built. No corners cut as you say. Many many watch snobs would be shocked to learn the proximity that Seiko achieves in the relation to their favorite brands and this would require one not to look too hard at where all the extra money they spent went to.
Those other brands including Citizen know how to get alignment right
This is awesome, it is the complete antithesis of Tissot. Tissot cut corners on the things that matter (see my rant on your plastic escapment video 😂) but decorate the movement to trick you into believeing you get a good watch. Seiko make a quality, durable watch movement with no decoration.
I know which brand gets my money in future and it isn't the Swiss one!
I have a 1917 Waltham trench watch and an Atlas Goliath pocket watch from 1920's. There will be Seiko 5's built today getting restored in 100 years but powermatic 80 Tissots will be scrap very sad of a brand with such history.
(Whoops i didnt mean to rant again 😂)
My wife bought me a Seiko 5 from a charity shop for my birthday a couple of years ago
Its really nice and keeps perfect time
Seiko is an incredible watch manufacturer. Completely vertically integrated, one of only two such bRands.... Yeah they can be criticised for various things, particularly recently, but still, they offer high quality mechanical watchmaking, from entry level to the most exquisite Grand Seiko. The magic lever is incredible! Innovative, elegant, and so simple. And whether it's a 5 or a top end GS, always has the advantage of being able to walk into a shop and actually buy one, unlike certain other bRands....
Hello my friend, it is so nice you stayed overtime to show us this amazing fact , 👏 I bought me an skx oo7 and hasn't had service for 20 years I take it off on weekends to rest, the luminosity is far better than any rolex pre 1999 , also seems seiko has good internal parts that do not corrode as rolex , now, I wonder if a fake rolex can be made with only changing the rolex face, hour , minute , second hands into a seiko case ?
There are 4 stable channels I have when it comes to servicing watches. A Welsh, a English, a Norwegian in Switzerland and you. Thank you for being fair when it comes to Seiko, I do quite often get the feeling that in Europe they never did forgive Seiko for the Quartz crisis (what they started themself) I can't say more for I am Biased, I love my Japanese watches, specially my Seikos but also my Citizen and Orient. Have one Swiss and one German watch and I wouldn't want to miss either of them. The love of a mechanical Watch is what is that we all have in common.
I love my snxs73. Keeps great time and is beautiful with an upgraded bracelet
Thank you Kalle, I started working on watch repair and have since specialized on Seiko. I love the Seiko 5, I love finding broken Seiko's online and repairing them, they are genius... and parts are available...
I love my Seiko 5. I knew when I bought it that it was really good worth for the money. This Video made me appreciate it more. Thank you👍
I am a fan of Seiko 5, they are reliable, you can choose from many designs, they have heritage, they are 'tough' and they are at the same time affordable. They have proved their quality over the years and that's why they have sold so many pieces worldwide. What else can you ask from an everyday watch?
I live the 6119 and 6309 movements.. the 7xxx are not as nice but the reason I usually avoid them is the hairsprings seem lower quality compared to the earlier models. I often have 7xxx movements with the hairspring out of flat, but the 6xxx are usually fine. Of course that could just mean the 6xxx is more tolerant of my clumsy handling of the balance wheel.
Thanks for the great videos.
One time I took my older seiko 17 jewels automatic 7005- 7001 ( 2D 2361 ) swiming , with no screw back case, and no water got in at all . Im very surprised 😮 so far it is the thinnest automatic seiko around 😊
It’s Grand Seiko for the finish.
A really great mix of know-how and entertainment. I really love it. The honesty is also very pleasant.
One more request. Could you make the volume of the voice a little higher, because it always feels a little too quiet. Probably because of the distance to the microphone. Thank you and Grüße aus dem Rheinland 🙂
A Seiko 5 is my everyday watch. Reliable, unobtrusive yet attractive, and not so expensive that it would be a misery if it got damaged.
❤ Seiko gives you the Bast Bang for by your Buck. Especially the turtle line. IMHO.
Yes. I love my Seiko SRPE77: gorgeous ice-blue dial, heat-blued hands, lumed hands and indices, auto-wind with click (can also be hand-wound), hack (for exact seconds setting, an absolute must for anyone who travels by bus or train rather than driving their $87,500 Mercedes), water resistance, shock resistance, and reasonable accuracy (gains about 2sec per day). All for $250. Which is all I can afford, as a retired person with very few assets and a low income. But even if I had a lot more money, I would be unlikely to buy a much-more expensive watch. For the price of a low-end Swiss watch ($5000), I could buy a nice used car. For the price of a mid-price Swiss watch ($50,000) I could buy a nice new car. For the price of a Grand Seiko Kodo ($350,000) I could buy a nice 3-bedroom house. So, no, I'm not going to spend that kind of money on a mere wrist watch. If I want super accuracy I'll spend $15 on a Casio electronic quartz LCD digital watch. If I want an all-mechanical watch (just to be steampunk), I'll spend $250 on a Seiko. But the price must be < $500. I'll leave the $500+ watches for folks who wear Armani suits and drive a Mercedes Benz.
Love your expert opinion because you get to see the internal mechanisms which the general population do not see. You have the technical expertise to analyze the internal workings, thank you.
Thanks Kalle! I’ve got my father’s Seiko 5 Sportmatic which of course I’ve serviced!
It’s a 1965 model.
Now i respect my seiko 5 entry level even more
Spot on. Definitely nothing wrong with a Seiko, they make great affordable watches 🙂
thye dont produce thsoe movements anymore...
@@user-wv1pj6wh4h : Re "[Seiko] [doesn't] produce [Seiko] movements anymore": This is false. Far from not producing movements, Seiko has expanded its movement production into factories in multiple countries. Their higher-priced watches are produced in Japan only, while their lower-priced watches are produced in their over-seas factories, such as in Malaysia. I suggest doing research before getting on TH-cam and spouting a lot of false opinions.
My first mechanical watch was a Seiko. Not even a 5. I love my vintage Swiss watches, but I fondly remember my first watch which sadly got crushed in an accident! The only thing that annoyed me was it was day/date and had dual language days it was a repeated pain to get the day/date setup properly
Thank you. Planning to buy my first automatic watch, and I'm settling on a Seiko 5 thanks to your review! :)
Thanks for admiring Seiko,my beater watch is a Seiko 5 and it’s just a great watch. That was a FUN video
Nice one Kalle 👍
I have a 7S26 from a watch i bought in 2002....it is still running now, 22 years later....and not a single servicing
From Los Angeles, California, great video. Seiko is part of the Seiko Group which also owns Orient. I recently purchased an Orient Ray 2 watch from the Orient USA website for US $210 before taxes with free shipping. The dial is a sunburst blue and I have replaced the metal strap with a blue alligator one. I owned a Seiko divers watch with a screw back in the late 1960's early 1970's and paid around US $150. Today, you can pay thousands for a new Seiko divers watch which is outside of my comfort zone. Take care.
I think you may have that a bit backwards. If one could be said to be “owned” by the other, it is Seiko who owns Epson. Epson was started in the 1940s through an investment by Seiko to manufacture parts for their watches and do R&D and later became Suwa Seikosha manufacturing Seiko watches prior to later becoming Seiko Epson. They now function mostly independently under the Seiko Group umbrella.
Thank you for the clarification. Take care. Seiko Group (セイコー・グループ, Seikō Gurūpu) is a Japanese corporate group consisting of three core companies Seiko Group Corp. (Seiko), Seiko Instruments Inc. (SII) and Seiko Epson Corp (Epson). The three companies are linked by a common thread of timepiece technology. Epson has established its own brand image and rarely uses 'Seiko'. On January 26, 2009, Seiko Holdings and Seiko Instruments announced that the two companies will be merged on October 1, 2009, through a share swap. Seiko Instruments became a wholly-owned subsidiary of Seiko Holdings on October 1, 2009. On May 10, 2022, Seiko Holdings Corporation announced that it would rename Seiko Group Corporation as of October 1, 2022.[1]@@krazykat64
Aside from my Swiss watches, I have two of these Chinese seiko homages (Steeldive and Heimdallr) but they're running nh35 in them. I'll never get them serviced because it would cost more than the entire watch, but they're very accurate and great beater watches.
I have learned so much from these videos. Thank you
Bedankt Kalle erg leuk deze seiko aflevering !!!
Wonderful presentation as always, thank you so much! I knew these facts about the SEIKO 5 , yet it was so good hearing it from a Watchmaker expert, quite reassuring! I love automatics (mechanical), and so do quartz pieces as well. Have 2 SEIKO 5s and a SEIKO mechaquartz, love them all! The SEIKO mechaquartz chronograph runs terribly accurate!
Both my parents own and wear their Rolex datejust all day every day. They are very active. Every few weeks their watches run out of power during the night. While I can keep my Seiko running forever wearing it a few hours per day. The automatic winding on Rolex is just not as efficient as the humble magic lever.
What I would really like you to do is a super fun video : opening an addiesdive AD 2021 and compare it to the invicta pro- diver 89260B. Hoping you will get 80k views 🙏 and tell whjch is better 😮 thank you.
Thanks Kalle. I have been a Seiko fan and collector for years. I got my first 5717 mono-pusher Chronograph this week. I love your streams they are so inspiring, and I always learn something new. All the best.
I just love your videos. So informative. Thank you so much.
Thank you Kalle. Your instructiononal videos are wonderful. These infomational videos are just the icing on the cake. This makes an enjoyable hobby into an inspirational one. Chronoglide rules.
Thank you for the video! Fantastic
nice vid well said about SEIKO ,as bit of a watch nerd i alway`s say buy a SEIKO to my freind`s
Topkanaal met top videos... a breath of fresh air tussen alle grey dealer BS videos! Thumbs up!
I LOVE SEIKO
*Omdat ik fan ben van horloges en tevens zoon van een Nederlander* _(ik kom uit de USA)_ *geniet ik vooral van deze video's. De Nederlandse mentaliteit: goed gemaakt, effectief, goedkoop en gaat lang mee.*
Reversal wheels on ETA 2824 movements are a weakness if manually wound. Seiko movements don't suffer from this. The automatic winding system is superior.
Many thanks for your great work Kalle. Great movements to use for learning. The generation before 6602 manual winds were also great. Serviced one last year - 55 years old and runs at a consistent - 1 second per day !! Love the Japanese.
Thanks for this video, great insight. Love the passion.
Thank you enjoyed this (:
Superb. After watching your video, I love my seiko even more. An honest opinion that can only come from a watchmaker. Subscribed.
Thanks, very helpful 👍
Brilliant video sir very informative.
Thank's for interesting video Kalle,greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪
Glad to see you talking Seiko Kalle, they are truley great watches. Bart/US
Thanks Kalle. Love the fun facts about Seiko, I’ve taken a few 5’s apart myself and think there a great movement.
MAGIC LEVER!!!!!!!!!
Excelente vídeo kalle, gracias 👍 🇨🇴🕓🇪🇸👍
Thanks for showing us your opinions and ideas on the Seiko 5. I have a 28 year old Pulsar v736 and 2 SNK's... they are my favorites. I switch them out every 10 days. I would love to go upbrand, but i haven't.
My first restore was on a very similar Seiko 5, great watch!
Thanks, it is a great piece of design 👍 Refreshing after the Powermatic video too.
Good insight. My Seiko 5s have been a pleasure to own and never let me down. If only all watches were as clever and as honest. Affordable quality that everyone can enjoy, just as it should be.
When you had that dram I subscribed instantly
Thanks for that! I'd love to see you feature one of these on the tuesday live stream!
Watches with a sapphire crystal
Hand wind capability and hacking are available at a better price from many other manufacturers.
Just dated my Seiko SARB035. Thanks Kalle! I had no clue how to read the sn
I really enjoyed this, while by chance wearing the SNK807. So it appears it is even better than I tought. I do have some stuff from Switzerland in my box, but I just love this little workhorse. Great video!
Thank you very much!
I just bought one because I love mechanical watches and don't have the money. I wasn't sure if it was a good purchase.
Your statement makes the purchase all the more important. 👍
Thank you so much Kalle that you made that video!
When I started, as I told, I did with Seikos by chance. Later when I opened Swiss Moment watches I was a bit surprised why they do it more complex way 😂
However, coincidence or not: while watching this, I wear a 7S26-0060 with serial number 8O… that I just reworked and now am testing 🤣🤣 Thank you for ur beautiful content.
I bought quite a number of watches in the late 80s and through the 90s as a collector,and seiko 5 and citizen 7 were more or less the only affordable automatics in poduction at that time.aside from rolex,the swiss brands had gone virtually all quartz,the longines catalogue from 1989 has 2 mechanical watches in it.anyway,ive got 4 seiko 5s from this era all 7009 series.seiko are still using the old 7s36 in current lorus automatic watches.....
Soy un enamorado de las soluciones fáciles, simples y eternas!!Gracias por compartir .Un abrazo
Posdata!!😂Por qué me esconden el manual del servicio en linea del Omega calibre 1360?🤔.Te agradecería una pista kalle🙏
Seiko 5s are great, mind you the prices are going up all the time. That's really cool with the numbers on the back and how you can tell when it was made. How would you rate the 4R35 movement?
If the 7S26 is good enough for Invicta it's good enough for me.
Thanks
Now your on my turf I am a Seiko Nut favorite watch to own and to repair as they can repaired as parts are available and they fit and usually just clean, oil,adjust new crystal and o-rings. Always a happy customer with and affordable bill. As me I own 52 of the monsters would not triad for a Rolex. I do fix that high end stuff but the customers are a pain in the @##$#!/.🤣 Mandy at Timeless watch Repair
I would love to see a modern Grand Seiko movement and your opinion Sir.
Maybe this is to your liking:
Grand Seiko Spring Drive Snowflake
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Can you bring us an analysis for Russian watches such as Vostok or Raketa? Would love to see your opinion