That is true to a degree. The difference is in who you buy them from. The KEY is to buy them from collectors and shops who are over stocked with comics they haven't even had time to go through yet. Where it's not that they can't sell them, it's that they simply took on too many collections and need to reduce their inventory. This is when your mystery box will be full of great valuable books. Also, if you buy mystery boxes off ebay or whatnot, talk to the seller before you buy. Let them know that you'll be interested in buying from them IF they can includes X, Y ,Z titles or characters in your box. Most will help you out, some won't. But asking never hurts, and I have yet to do business with anyone who refused.
I have gotten some great books from Whatnot. But I have a few select sellers I deal with and have proven trustworthy. I'm glad he refunded you. I avoid mystery anything.
As a seller on the app I do my best to convince the higher ups to take this more seriously and crack down on scams like this. It hurts everyone when they let them run rampant like they do. For reference I mostly do singles. very rarely I will do “mystery” boxes which are put together on stream while bidding is live so people can see what they bid on and the buyers know it will mostly be fillers. Typically they go for about $.20-$.50 a book with discounted shipping.
Glad you got your money back. i havent had any issues with whatnot but once I get my books i save that seller and just buy from the sam guys. I stay away from mystery boxes cause I never get anything worth anything.
Hi buddy, honesty, transparency, trust,,on this account there was none of that involved in your experience, not good,very confusing for you for sure, thanks for the heads up really appreciate your videos, stay safe always ❤luv you guys
Yeah I try to selective on who I buy from. Sometimes watching ppl overpay for books the seller is pushing has me smh. Won a book for $1 that the seller was expecting more from and he got mad and canceled the sale.
Its also difficult not to lose your cool. You did the best thing. I bought a fake red hulk the other day off Mecari. I believe the seller didn't know it was fake. The seller is making it right. I hate having to deal with shady people.
Mystery boxes are the bane of collecting. Preys on FOMO and no one ever gets the value they deserve but if they didn’t make a crap load off them they wouldn’t. Anyone that runs mystery boxes I avoid their shows like the plague. If I wanted that I would just head over to the casino .
I deal with a few good sellers that tend to have good quality books but the rest are nothing but lazy sellers. They put up signs to look at the BIN and there is no action on screen. There is also the huckster/carnival barkers that yell all the time or blast loud music while we have to look at there faces as they talk forever. Not sure what WHATNOT is turning into other than an online version of a flea market.
I used to enjoy doing like 4 or 5 mystery pulls on whatnot a month, between like $3, $5, to $10 bucks, did it for months. Everytime I got normal book or even a real shit book, I paid and it showed up. there's been about 3 times now where I won an over $100 book, and every single time, the book never shows up, I open the app and the charge is like secretly missing or disappears or like wasn't processed... like I'm done with it. One was a 1st taskmaster slab, 1 was like a X-men at the Texas state fair which is book I've wanted for a long time.... There's too many sellers on what not for me to ever report or do anything about it because I can't remember the vendors or name of the show. And it's not like a CC problem because again it works fine the next week. Not sure if it makes a difference, but I've about 3 times bought magic cards, hit some pretty decent and that card did show up.
Also to note, I've hit like 2 grails books from Instagram seller mystery boxes, so I'm not like totally anti mystery box... but I see like what happening with sport cards, where they ensuring the best cards go to influencers who do live openings (more rigged than the McDonalds Monopoly game) and if that ever comes to comic books, that will be a very sad day indeed.
It’s like they do with EBay, sellers get their buddy’s on their shows to bring up the prices. You’ll end up paying way more for something you could have gotten for 4.99
Brutha ya ALWAYS gotta ask the entire set of rules with these mystery box things as there's ALWAYS FINE PRINT somewhere. I tend to avoid that stuff unless I know the seller very well. Mystery boxes are well known fluff dumps with crazy odds to hit a big book. Sucks it went down like that,but at least you got a refund and apology.
I literally only buy cool looking variant comics on what-not. I don't spring for the big boys. I think the most expensive thing I've bought was a full run of savage sword of conan for 68.
A lot of them sellers there do the same, I called out a few of them and they get mad and start trying to turn it around. This one guy was claiming that the books were valued at such a high price when I looked them up on eBay available at half the price
When whatnot first started ot was hard to get accepted they really vetted the sellers now its anybody that has prior resell .I haven't bought on there in over a year because its turned into a complete circus.
Yeah that was definitely a scammer. There’s a lot out there. I don’t participate in any mystery or games on whatnot. I only buy from streams that sell individual books and show the condition up close. The best are shows that do $1 starting bids. Typically can get good deals.
He did you really dirty. Sounds like a pre-planned scam. The only thing he was sorry about was getting called out for his games. You should absolutely name the seller on here. Do the hobby a solid.
From what I can tell by watching other youtube channels most of the people who buy a mystery box are not satisfied with the content of the box. Often one don´t even gets the value of what was paid for such a mystery box or the content of such a box is totally not interesting to collect. One good example is the Comic Tom Mystery Box.
Totally bought a Lot from them and thought my selection were weak as hell. Not sure how to judge that. Maybe I got a bad bundle. But that’s lame, what you experienced.
Sounds like a bait and switch to me. You gotta call out the seller on that deal. A person should stand by their word and man up on your sell. Reputation is everything, he might lose customers on this one. Glad you got your money back bro. Good luck in the future. 👍
I wouldn't done that I like to see what I'm buying, I think the guy on Whatnot took you to the bank . BTW I enjoy your videos regards Roger Booth from the 330
I got burned recently. I bid on a high grade Star Wars 1 on stream and the seller swapped in a lower grade copy when it shipped. It sucked because I had purchased from the seller in the past and was always happy with the books. Petty way to lose a regular customer.
Mystery boxes need to have the floor and ceiling displayed and the mystery books themselves need to be onscreen the whole time. I love buying and selling on WhatNot, but mystery auctions are a tough sell.
Stay away from the mystery bags. Junk ninja funk books. I payed $150 for a IronMan 282 near mint with no spine ticks just a really clean book from some guys selling books from their comic shop, when I got the book it had like 8 spine ticks the back cover had a rip along the spine and there was fixing on the back and on pages. They refused to let me return it and whatnot never responded . Deleted whatnot after that so be careful
You did well on calling the seller out on it and happy the seller gave you a refund. It seems as though the seller didn't know what he was doing as far as lack of knowledge of two different comicbook publishers or tries to scam buyers to get his way or maybe had done this before to other buyers, either way he was on the wrong for doing that. Your best bet is to take your business elsewhere and glad you didn't take the seller's offer on free items to make up the "mistake" he pulled to try to keep you happy as a customer in order for you to go back on his Whatnot channel to continue in support of him, maybe this time he won't pull this again on anyone if that's the case. As the late Earl Hebner, would say in WWF Attitude Era, "Scab refs be aware!" Nice review.
Phones nowadays have *SCREEN SHOT* or *SCREEN RECORD* ....I don't go on WHATNOT that often but if I do and I bid on stuff or I enter a giveaway, I *ALWAYS* make sure to *SCREEN RECORD* so I have evidence in case i win something😅 or have a dispute later on like what you have in this video.
Yes that was dirty, should be straight up with the auctions. Honesty is the best policy you'll get your value back as long as you run your stream correctly.
I never do the mystery boxes, I would rather pay FMV for a book then risk it with that stuff. This is a prime example of a guy that was a scam, not even mislead IMO, they know the book isn't worth $190, it even raises the question if they planned on really giving out a marvel key.
Will echo some of the other comments: I don't do "mystery" because, even if the value is there, there's no guaranty that those are books that I actually want.
Yeah be careful with the mystery ones like that. Ive seen people get scammed so many time doing those mystery boxes. Theyre all rigged to benefit the seller. There are some people on whatnot that are trustworthy. But no it definitely wasnt your fault. If you go on a show that has tons of lights and big production, most of the time its a scam.
He definitely did you dirty it’s sellers like that who give the app a bad name sorry that happened to you as a whatnot seller myself that is not cool at all that’s why I stand by everything I sell and try to give people the best value for their money
Mystery boxes and stuff like that are a scam. I only buy books I can see lol But I will say, if it's that All Star Superman that you got that's not the worst book to get as James Gunn's Superman movie is going to be based on that comic so it will go up in value in a couple years when the movie comes out
It's also a good place to be able to actually see what you are buying. It's only through whatnot that I've been able to add a number of issues to my collection that I had been looking for for a long time.
In general I'm not even remotely sure of the legality of what occurred to you. There's a ton of weird federal and state laws when it comes to raffles and tickets, and way more laws when it comes to bait and switches. I've noticed from my experience, these attempts at pumping up the bids (with what essentially is gambling) always end up badly for the bidder. You'll end up buying some book you didnt want for 10-20% more. And never ever believe a Whatnot streamer what his opinion on value is. If someone says this book is $190 in value, and you know for a fact a CGC copy sells for something way different, thats FRAUD. Its one thing to do that with raw books, but CGC comics have hard, traceable and public values. If you have a recording of the stream, you can walk down to small claims today. But no one records whatnot streams, so this scam keeps happening. Stop spending money on mystery bundles. Some of the higher population rooms almost are guaranteed to have straw bidders that pump on the price, and these sorts of raffles really should be illegal. Stick to small population rooms and sellers you trust. Never buy from this guy again.
Whatnot has a lot of hype and sales men that have an incentive to deceive. Definitely not everyone on the platform is like that but the system is designed to play into our excitement and FOMO
Yea I’ve heard nothing but shyster situations are on that platform and everyone acts like it’s the best thing going. I’ll never buy from that platform.
Avoid those " mystery" lots because it's always just comics no one ever wants. None of those are deals and always have bullshit comics. They're just getting rid of comics they paid for but can't sell. I block anyone who is selling mystery lots. I like to buy comics and if you're going to try and sucker me I will never make a purchase from you ever again no matter what you have.
You didn’t d anything wrong. Definitely misleading. I don’t trust what not. Just me. Glad you got your money back. But you can’t really trust that seller. Thank you for your content.
Plenty of good mystery streams BUT more bad ones. Sounds like they were hoping you were ignorant.. good that they refunded you thankfully. Gary is a good example mystery boxes done right
mystery boxes are just a way to unload crap they can't sell -- I avoid them like the plague.
For the most part, you're right. I've come across a few sellers that have good mystery boxes.
That is true to a degree. The difference is in who you buy them from. The KEY is to buy them from collectors and shops who are over stocked with comics they haven't even had time to go through yet. Where it's not that they can't sell them, it's that they simply took on too many collections and need to reduce their inventory. This is when your mystery box will be full of great valuable books.
Also, if you buy mystery boxes off ebay or whatnot, talk to the seller before you buy. Let them know that you'll be interested in buying from them IF they can includes X, Y ,Z titles or characters in your box. Most will help you out, some won't. But asking never hurts, and I have yet to do business with anyone who refused.
I don't trust mystery boxes. Glad you got your money back.
I have gotten some great books from Whatnot. But I have a few select sellers I deal with and have proven trustworthy.
I'm glad he refunded you. I avoid mystery anything.
As a seller on the app I do my best to convince the higher ups to take this more seriously and crack down on scams like this. It hurts everyone when they let them run rampant like they do.
For reference I mostly do singles. very rarely I will do “mystery” boxes which are put together on stream while bidding is live so people can see what they bid on and the buyers know it will mostly be fillers. Typically they go for about $.20-$.50 a book with discounted shipping.
Nice video bud, gotta watch out on what not
Glad you got your money back. i havent had any issues with whatnot but once I get my books i save that seller and just buy from the sam guys. I stay away from mystery boxes cause I never get anything worth anything.
When they first started mystery boxes were amazing. As covid went on to be spare crap.
Hi buddy, honesty, transparency, trust,,on this account there was none of that involved in your experience, not good,very confusing for you for sure, thanks for the heads up really appreciate your videos, stay safe always ❤luv you guys
Yeah I try to selective on who I buy from. Sometimes watching ppl overpay for books the seller is pushing has me smh. Won a book for $1 that the seller was expecting more from and he got mad and canceled the sale.
Its also difficult not to lose your cool. You did the best thing. I bought a fake red hulk the other day off Mecari. I believe the seller didn't know it was fake. The seller is making it right. I hate having to deal with shady people.
that’s good they are doing the right thing
Mystery boxes are the bane of collecting. Preys on FOMO and no one ever gets the value they deserve but if they didn’t make a crap load off them they wouldn’t. Anyone that runs mystery boxes I avoid their shows like the plague. If I wanted that I would just head over to the casino .
Sorry that happened to you. Glad you got your funds back.
He tried to get over for sure. Great video
I deal with a few good sellers that tend to have good quality books but the rest are nothing but lazy sellers. They put up signs to look at the BIN and there is no action on screen. There is also the huckster/carnival barkers that yell all the time or blast loud music while we have to look at there faces as they talk forever. Not sure what WHATNOT is turning into other than an online version of a flea market.
I used to enjoy doing like 4 or 5 mystery pulls on whatnot a month, between like $3, $5, to $10 bucks, did it for months. Everytime I got normal book or even a real shit book, I paid and it showed up. there's been about 3 times now where I won an over $100 book, and every single time, the book never shows up, I open the app and the charge is like secretly missing or disappears or like wasn't processed... like I'm done with it. One was a 1st taskmaster slab, 1 was like a X-men at the Texas state fair which is book I've wanted for a long time.... There's too many sellers on what not for me to ever report or do anything about it because I can't remember the vendors or name of the show. And it's not like a CC problem because again it works fine the next week. Not sure if it makes a difference, but I've about 3 times bought magic cards, hit some pretty decent and that card did show up.
Also to note, I've hit like 2 grails books from Instagram seller mystery boxes, so I'm not like totally anti mystery box... but I see like what happening with sport cards, where they ensuring the best cards go to influencers who do live openings (more rigged than the McDonalds Monopoly game) and if that ever comes to comic books, that will be a very sad day indeed.
It’s like they do with EBay, sellers get their buddy’s on their shows to bring up the prices. You’ll end up paying way more for something you could have gotten for 4.99
Yes I agree
Brutha ya ALWAYS gotta ask the entire set of rules with these mystery box things as there's ALWAYS FINE PRINT somewhere. I tend to avoid that stuff unless I know the seller very well. Mystery boxes are well known fluff dumps with crazy odds to hit a big book. Sucks it went down like that,but at least you got a refund and apology.
Ceiling would be the max of what the slab is worth.
That's messed up. You should tell EVERYONE! NOT COOL what he did. Makes everyone else look bad.
I literally only buy cool looking variant comics on what-not. I don't spring for the big boys. I think the most expensive thing I've bought was a full run of savage sword of conan for 68.
A lot of them sellers there do the same, I called out a few of them and they get mad and start trying to turn it around. This one guy was claiming that the books were valued at such a high price when I looked them up on eBay available at half the price
Spending money on mystery boxes is just spending money somewhere else when you could put it directly to a book you want.
When whatnot first started ot was hard to get accepted they really vetted the sellers now its anybody that has prior resell .I haven't bought on there in over a year because its turned into a complete circus.
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Yeah that was definitely a scammer. There’s a lot out there. I don’t participate in any mystery or games on whatnot. I only buy from streams that sell individual books and show the condition up close. The best are shows that do $1 starting bids. Typically can get good deals.
He did you really dirty. Sounds like a pre-planned scam. The only thing he was sorry about was getting called out for his games. You should absolutely name the seller on here. Do the hobby a solid.
Sounds like a miscommunication problem with him and his buddies. Glad you got your money back.
From what I can tell by watching other youtube channels most of the people who buy a mystery box are not satisfied with the content of the box. Often one don´t even gets the value of what was paid for such a mystery box or the content of such a box is totally not interesting to collect. One good example is the Comic Tom Mystery Box.
Totally bought a Lot from them and thought my selection were weak as hell. Not sure how to judge that. Maybe I got a bad bundle. But that’s lame, what you experienced.
Sounds like a bait and switch to me. You gotta call out the seller on that deal. A person should stand by their word and man up on your sell. Reputation is everything, he might lose customers on this one. Glad you got your money back bro. Good luck in the future. 👍
great video
I wouldn't done that I like to see what I'm buying, I think the guy on Whatnot took you to the bank . BTW I enjoy your videos regards Roger Booth from the 330
Thank you buddy
I got burned recently. I bid on a high grade Star Wars 1 on stream and the seller swapped in a lower grade copy when it shipped. It sucked because I had purchased from the seller in the past and was always happy with the books. Petty way to lose a regular customer.
That sucks man it’s awful people do that stuff
Mystery boxes need to have the floor and ceiling displayed and the mystery books themselves need to be onscreen the whole time. I love buying and selling on WhatNot, but mystery auctions are a tough sell.
Stay away from the mystery bags. Junk ninja funk books. I payed $150 for a IronMan 282 near mint with no spine ticks just a really clean book from some guys selling books from their comic shop, when I got the book it had like 8 spine ticks the back cover had a rip along the spine and there was fixing on the back and on pages. They refused to let me return it and whatnot never responded . Deleted whatnot after that so be careful
You did well on calling the seller out on it and happy the seller gave you a refund. It seems as though the seller didn't know what he was doing as far as lack of knowledge of two different comicbook publishers or tries to scam buyers to get his way or maybe had done this before to other buyers, either way he was on the wrong for doing that.
Your best bet is to take your business elsewhere and glad you didn't take the seller's offer on free items to make up the "mistake" he pulled to try to keep you happy as a customer in order for you to go back on his Whatnot channel to continue in support of him, maybe this time he won't pull this again on anyone if that's the case.
As the late Earl Hebner, would say in WWF Attitude Era, "Scab refs be aware!"
Nice review.
Absolutely buddy thanks for watching
@@whynotcomics3291 You're welcome i enjoy the family base comicbook contents on your channel, keep up the great work.
@@AnthonyOldhandGarcia Thank you buddy that means a lot
@@whynotcomics3291 You're welcome.
Phones nowadays have *SCREEN SHOT* or *SCREEN RECORD* ....I don't go on WHATNOT that often but if I do and I bid on stuff or I enter a giveaway, I *ALWAYS* make sure to *SCREEN RECORD* so I have evidence in case i win something😅 or have a dispute later on like what you have in this video.
Good tip thank you
Ceiling means top or upper limit. I’m glad you got your money back.
thank you
Yea they tried to get you on that one.
Slab showed up broken to my house then seller acted surprised and then wouldn't tell me the number to help me with the return.
That’s awful i deleted the app
Yes that was dirty, should be straight up with the auctions. Honesty is the best policy you'll get your value back as long as you run your stream correctly.
I agree
I never do the mystery boxes, I would rather pay FMV for a book then risk it with that stuff. This is a prime example of a guy that was a scam, not even mislead IMO, they know the book isn't worth $190, it even raises the question if they planned on really giving out a marvel key.
Will echo some of the other comments: I don't do "mystery" because, even if the value is there, there's no guaranty that those are books that I actually want.
Yeah be careful with the mystery ones like that. Ive seen people get scammed so many time doing those mystery boxes. Theyre all rigged to benefit the seller. There are some people on whatnot that are trustworthy. But no it definitely wasnt your fault. If you go on a show that has tons of lights and big production, most of the time its a scam.
He definitely did you dirty it’s sellers like that who give the app a bad name sorry that happened to you as a whatnot seller myself that is not cool at all that’s why I stand by everything I sell and try to give people the best value for their money
I’ve been using Whatnot for a while, but I’ve never had something like that happen to me. But I’ve never bought mystery box stuff either. 🤷♂️
He tried to pull a fast one on you. Not cool. That some sneaky ****.
I only buy funko pops from there and whatnot is usually good on refunding your money.
Can you tell us the seller’s user ID? We can block him so others don’t get catfished.
Mystery boxes are usually crap. Spider-man booth runs the only one that’s worth it
That’s true
Glad you got your $$ back.
Thanks
Mystery boxes and stuff like that are a scam. I only buy books I can see lol But I will say, if it's that All Star Superman that you got that's not the worst book to get as James Gunn's Superman movie is going to be based on that comic so it will go up in value in a couple years when the movie comes out
Defo go up in price id keep it as next year everyone will want it 👍
Bro the way you’re explaining it, in like, it sounded like a scam from the beginning. Why bid? 😂
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When the seller have complicated rules and stuff or mystery stuff I stay away. Not worth it
Whatnot has become a stain on comic book collecting. People push off a lot of modern trash on that platform.
It's also a good place to be able to actually see what you are buying. It's only through whatnot that I've been able to add a number of issues to my collection that I had been looking for for a long time.
In general I'm not even remotely sure of the legality of what occurred to you. There's a ton of weird federal and state laws when it comes to raffles and tickets, and way more laws when it comes to bait and switches. I've noticed from my experience, these attempts at pumping up the bids (with what essentially is gambling) always end up badly for the bidder. You'll end up buying some book you didnt want for 10-20% more.
And never ever believe a Whatnot streamer what his opinion on value is. If someone says this book is $190 in value, and you know for a fact a CGC copy sells for something way different, thats FRAUD. Its one thing to do that with raw books, but CGC comics have hard, traceable and public values. If you have a recording of the stream, you can walk down to small claims today. But no one records whatnot streams, so this scam keeps happening.
Stop spending money on mystery bundles. Some of the higher population rooms almost are guaranteed to have straw bidders that pump on the price, and these sorts of raffles really should be illegal. Stick to small population rooms and sellers you trust. Never buy from this guy again.
Yeah I know exactly what person on Whatnot this is. They are shady, in my opinion. They have a "Blue" betting problem. Iykyk
What is the name of the seller?
Whatnot has a lot of hype and sales men that have an incentive to deceive. Definitely not everyone on the platform is like that but the system is designed to play into our excitement and FOMO
Yep. More often than not...scam
Yeah they did you pretty dirty but at least they had the decency to give you your money back.
yea they did buddy
I hate this kind of stuff. Mystery stuff sucks. The prices on popular whatnot sales go for overpriced values.
Yea I’ve heard nothing but shyster situations are on that platform and everyone acts like it’s the best thing going. I’ll never buy from that platform.
Avoid those " mystery" lots because it's always just comics no one ever wants.
None of those are deals and always have bullshit comics. They're just getting rid of comics they paid for but can't sell.
I block anyone who is selling mystery lots. I like to buy comics and if you're going to try and sucker me I will never make a purchase from you ever again no matter what you have.
Yabba dabba doo!!
You didn’t d anything wrong. Definitely misleading. I don’t trust what not. Just me. Glad you got your money back. But you can’t really trust that seller. Thank you for your content.
Plenty of good mystery streams BUT more bad ones. Sounds like they were hoping you were ignorant.. good that they refunded you thankfully.
Gary is a good example mystery boxes done right
Whatnot sucks....I deleted that app. I won't deal with them anymore.
same buddy
Yeah I never trust that mystery stuff
Ill take that Bane and Superman off of your hands
99.9 % of raffles, mystery boxes, blind buys, etc are inflated trash. Save your money.
exactly thanks for the info
Don’t do it just stop it’s a scam your going to end up with a bunch of comics you don’t want and no one else
Yeah he was sorry for that.
Those are scams and a waste of time.
Yes that’s wrong
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Bait & Switch buddy, Whatnot is for scammers.
Sounds like you came out of this at least with your monies.
Thats not cool. I don't trust Whatnot at all.
Stay away from the blue chip 😂
He did u dirty
yea he did
I hope you got your mom back
that’s not cool scammers
exactly
straight up gambling
yea man love your channel Im in NC too buddy 👍🏼
I hate Whatnot
F*** WhatNot!
whatnot sucks