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Welcome to Errata Text! This is my new followup series to the Seven Deadly TCG Sins series which will observe concepts in Trading Card games, where they succeed and fail, and how to do them better.
Leading off with a game I have called "How to Make a TCG 101", Duel Masters is a game nearing its 20th birthday which ushered in a new era of TCGs by inspiring the future designers who played it when they were younger.
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Duel Masters walked so any decent TCG this side of 2010 could run.
That phrase couldn't have been use any better than these! I just felt so so so Bad that the time i discovered the game, its already dead....(2007)
Ironically its the number #1 tgc in japan even beating out yu gi oh most of the time
If by waljed with a helmet on to make simple games with no depth then sure
@Oligoden yes. Even bigger than pokemon and yugioh.
@Oligoden MTG has always been weak in Japan, pretty much being confined to university students (albeit they're trying to change that).
Been making a card game for a couple of months, and I didn't even realize that my game is a Duel Masters Clone... RIP
Hey man now that you know you can focus on what makes your game unique! That list of other card games shows that you can take a lot of inspiration from somewhere without being a clone! Good luck!
There are a lot of card game tropes. By knowing them, you can incorporate what you like best about all of your favorite games into yours, while adding in your own unique aspects.
@@paperpersona1243 Thanks for the inspiration
@@Stinkoman87 Yea so right now my biggest pulls are from Yugioh, Pokemon tcg, and apparently Duel Masters lol. It uses a evolution system like Pokemon, has the pacing of duel links Yugioh, and a shield system similar to Duel Masters.
@@redhood5264 That sounds pretty cool actually
"Making games devolve into whoever can be solitare the best"
Me who only plays yugioh: "...and I took that personally"
you need to get out more
@@goncaloferreira6429 nah
VFD got banned
But buster lock is back
Synchro Solitaire has entered the chat.
I also only play yu-gi-oh. It's complicated and expensive enough by itself lmao
@@eririspencersawamura5291 Buster Lovk isn't back - Nobody uses it. The exabeetle buster lock is literal garbage
I never realized how heavily Duel masters inspired the new Digimon TCG....
Duel Masters inspired MANY games
Its similarities to Duel Masters is what sold a lot of people on the idea of the new game in the months prior to release in Japan last year.
Digimon TCG 2020 is basically classic Duelmasters' true successor.
@@bryanmerel actually it was Chrono Clash System before since one of the designers from that game was also involved with Duel Masters ... and since Bandai holds the license to most of the IPs they used ... well yeah it evolved to Digimon
@@Zanji1234 Tbh the only thing it really borrows from chrono clash is the memory gauge.
Still playing Duel Masters actively 15 years later with our 15 years old cards.
Do you also play Duel Masters Play's?
@@BramLastname I hear there is no English translation of the game, so no, I haven't tried it.
@@katshuma that is true,
It's kinda difficult playing in Japanese,
But it's a challenge I'm willing to try.
you from India?
@@agnivabhattacharya3675 Finland
This video gave me such catharsis. I was so exceedingly sad when this game went away, it's so beautiful in a hard to describe way.
Though, Kohdok explained in a very simple way, why it's so beautiful.
I mean you can still play online
When I was younger I preferred duel masters over pokemon, digimon, magic, everything. Freaking loved that game and the cartoon was hilarious too
Yes, I still have a lot of cards, even that Magic is far superior than Duel masters, or even every other tcg game, I still love duel masters more than Magic.
Same, DM was the best. Even the GB game was incredible fun.
in my country DM is the reason yu gi oh didn't get the popularity..
It's hilarious, I keep rewatching it to this day
Kohdok: *talks about Duel Masters*
Me: INJECT IT INTO MY VEINS!
Edit: Uhm... They added A LOT of card types since the game left the US market.
I heard that not long ago they added a broken Gacha system to the game.
@@ShadowEclipex They discontinued that mechanic last year
Japanese Duel Masters threw all sense of game balance off the window, unfortunately.
@@bryanmerel Yeah I've heard that a lot of Japanese players got into Duel Masters Plays because it starts back when the game was more simple and less broken. Similar to why Duel Links got popular.
@@elijahdavila3684 As someone who plays Duel Masters Play's quite regularly,
I can say that the fact that they're still on a total of 8 card sets
(The Japanese one got into the triple digits years ago)
Is the biggest blessing a Duel Masters fan can have.
Japan has some crazy cards,
And a bunch of mechanics that I honestly don't want to deal with,
But Duel Masters Play's allows people to play with updated versions of the first 8 sets,
With 2 different metas.
And very simple but satisfying animations.
I was a kid who played a bunch of card games when Duel Masters came out in america and that dub was one of the main things that kept me from playing the game. While my friends and I all thought the show was funny, I personally assumed the game was joke. It didn't occur to me that it was a serious card game like the ones I was playing at the time.
Yeah, for the longest time and when i was young i assumed Duel Masters was simply some other companies Parody series of Yugioh, what with the whole focus on the characters 'zany hair' and the episodes i had seen. I figured the Card game would have followed the same thing and been a fast and loose parody of Yugioh own card mechanics.
@Future Pants the pokemon TCG is the most laid friendly of them all
I was too old and had been playing magic for 4 years by that point it was a simple childlike game imo and the show was awful
I really thought the game was really really good
Duel masters really needs a remake /reboot here in the west so that all the people can enjoy the bliss of this beautiful card game alternative a breath of fresh air
"We have Sorcery Speed and Instant speed, and this brings a lot of complexity"
Yu-gi-oh : *laughs in Spell Speed 4*
I dont play yugioh. Can i get some explanation? Is it like how there used to be interrupts in magic or split second perhaps? Quite curious.
@@oscarguzman3017 basically each card type has a dedicated Spell Speed indicating its priority and what it can react to.
You can only counter a card with a card that has at least the same Spell Speed or higher. "Spell Speed" is a general term for every card with an effect, not only spell cards (so traps and effect monsters also have a Spell Speed).
-Spell Speed 1 are for most monster effects and most spell cards effects.
-Spell Speed 2 are for most trap cards, "Quick Play"-type spell cards and monster effects that specifically indicate " Quick Effect"
-Spell Speed 3 is mostly for "Counter"-type trap cards.
-Spell Speed 4 doesn't officially exists, but it refers to cards that cannot be responded to (because the effect specifically says so, mostly). So while it's true that you cannot counter these with a Spell Speed 3 card (meaning it technically has priority over SS3), you cannot counter a Spell Speed 3 card with another card just because it cannot be negated either. So some player will rather call them Spell Speed 2.5. Spell Speed 4 is a very misleading term that many player still use.
I hope this was understandable, YGO is a very complex game aha.
@@JM-vl3cy Wild. I agreed that magic was pretty complicated with instant speed and the stack but i guess yugioh is just cracked.
@@oscarguzman3017 lol and that's just the tip of the iceberg, at least all the Spell Speed thing (aside of SS4 for obvious reasons) is in the rulebook.
Cuz 80% of what you need in YGO is not in the rulebook. That's how absurdly specific the rulings get.
It's by far the most complex and over the top TCG out there, but that's also one of the many things that make it unique.
@@oscarguzman3017 It's not as crazy as it sounds, it's just different. When games are around for a long time, they get complicated. I would probably say that magic's basic rules can be more intuitive than yugioh's.
There was a demo event at the Mall of America where people could sign up to teach the game when it first came out. Not only did my friends and I fall in love with the game, we all got paid in Darksteel boxes. 1.5 boxes per day for three days.
It was glorious.
How did you get paid 4 and a half boxes? Did they just give you 18 boosters?
@@retronymph Correct.
I think this game’s biggest problem of the west was being dubbed “baby magic” which it kind of was. So it just didn’t get a foot hold with that crowd. Everyone else was still on yugioh and Pokémon, so it just died despite being an interesting game.
Maybe in cardshops it was seen as baby magic. But at my middle school in 2004, none of us yugioh/pokemon fans even talked about MTG, let alone played it. I'm so serious. We just thought Duel Masters was a yugioh parody based on how the anime was.
@@duane_313 that’s hilarious, yeah I’m speaking from a card shop perspective. But that’s super funny knowing that now.
The anime dub (which I thought was funny) the a lot of kids off.
@@duane_313 exactly. The TV show killed this game before it had a chance for many people. I played it and enjoyed it. But after the first set I was done.
Unfortunately a trend that seems to still be pretty common in TCG circles, as seen by the YuGiOh players who throw similar labels on Rush Duels.
As someone unfamiliar with Duel Masters, I thought this would be a video about how Duel Masters broke the new sin of "Too much errata text."
It certainly is a sin (if the errata changes fundamentally how the card works) but does kinda require the game to have a long lifespan enough to get reprints of cards with an errata.
Yugioh has a lot of erratas but most of them are for PSCT which makes the cards easier to understand. Nerfing cards as old as Imperial Order to as new as Firewall Dragon is more uncommon and often just kills a strong card's legacy.
@@Zetact_ Never understood the concept of nerfing a card through an errata. Why ruin a powerful card that could otherwise potentially be made legal again one day? Would it really be that difficult to just print a retrain of the card instead?
@@aurafox1 Pretty much just for nostalgia. I'm primarily familiar with Yugioh but a lot of the times the errata nerfs go to really iconic cards.
In some instances they keep the general idea of the card the same but nerf it to prevent super easy FTKs/OTKs. Catapult Turtle being made OPT, Dark Strike Fighter being made HOPT, Exchange of the Spirit requiring both players GY to be 15 or more cards.
In some cases the nerf is meant to keep the "intention" of the card intact but slightly alter it to make it less abusable. DMoC adding during the End Phase. Ring of Destruction making you take the burn damage first as well as the huge mechanical changes that prevent it from being essentially a free extra direct attack. Future Fusion being made into a more risky play instead of just a free dump from the deck. That kind of thing.
In one instance (Crush Card Virus) I'm fairly certain they nerfed it solely because the printing of the Legendary Dragons cards made Doom Virus Dragon, which required Crush Card to be summoned (and has the old effect unchanged).
Firewall Dragon is the most recent card to get an errata and it's actually a strange case because it was one of the big cards used to market Vrains which is probably the only reason it was even allowed that much. But also that pretty much everyone agrees that the original effect was so broken it's a miracle that it even got printed like that (I think some even believe that it was deliberately made so to push Link Summoning faster) and the new effect is pretty much what it SHOULD have had all along.
There certainly are reasons why a designer might want to errata a card, but with the nature of card games it is silly that people would choose to slap the power of an existing card over the option that could result in selling more cards.
@@Zetact_ I suppose it's kind of like nerfing a video game character with an update, but in a game that already has a system to ban cards and such and so many retrains already, I'm really not sure I see the value in changing what's been printed before other than for clarity or grammar.
I could agree with the nostalgia aspect, but then you also have retrains of nostalgic cards like Blue-Eyes Alternative Dragon that get just as much, if not more, attention. I would think something like a nerfed retrain of DMoC or CD would get just as much attention.
Duel masters really needs a remake /reboot here in the west so that all the people can enjoy the bliss of this beautiful card game alternative a breath of fresh air
Not sure if this script was written pre-strixhaven command spoilers, or Kohdok just doesn't like the new term Mana Value.
Huh, I didn't know that they changed that term. Good to know lol
Lol fuck that it's cmc
New terminology takes time to become ingrained. You’ll still here people say EDH from time to time and I will never cease calling them RUG and BUG no matter how insistent wotc are about their clans.🤷♂️
@@hobobeard A LOT of people still say EDH. I mean the main deckbuilding aid site for the format is called EDHrec. It's safe to say that you're correct and that term isn't going anywhere.
yep, Kohdok we need to know!!
This was a really good watch, well done! Duel Masters actually still has a small fanbase and YT network that exist outside of Japan. So from all of us, thank you for giving some spotlight to the game we all love so much with your excellent video!
Where/how do you play? Do you use Duel master play's?
@@tonysharmagmail DMP is currently only available in Japan. However there are apps (like QooApp) to help bypass region restrictions. There are a handful of guides online including one on our channel.
I was a part of that mall tour. Someone reached out because I was an active member on an old Duel Masters forum and me and friend spend 2 days handing out flyers and teaching people to play. We got paid a box and a half of the 2nd set each lol. Good times!
I still have my duel master halo card you use to show at tournament when you sign up for their news letter.
One problem I have with things like prize cards, as more competitive player, is that it makes running one ofs perilous. This is particularly bad In pokemon, where you have limited space in your deck.
Well, its _always_ perilous to do that.
I don't really understand what you mean? Every card game has a limited amount of space for each type of card. Usually in pokemon, most decks usually only run 12-15 pokemon and 8-12 energy. The rest is supporters. Secondly, pokemon has so many search cards, draw cards, and discard interaction cards that one ofs are far less perilous than other card games.
For example, it doesn't matter if I only have one crobat v or one dedenne gx, because I usually run around 6-8 pokemon search cards and can get them whenever I want.
@@MaddyBird666 ...Unless it gets Prized. That's the point he's making.
@@Kohdok I can see how that can be a problem, but my one ofs in other card games also frequently get stuck at the bottom of my deck with no way for me to fetch it, or no real way to shuffle my deck, or even worse milled off the top.
It'd be interesting to get a detailed video on how Wizards of the Coast was involved with the Pokémon TCG in the earlier years of that game's localization outside Japan. How involved were they in some of the elements that parallel the mechanics in Magic?
Pktcgradio has a series of breakdowns of each set and how they affected the game and meta at the time
Still play actively to this day, keeping up with the current releases.
Hopefully this video sheds more light on the card game and draws more people in to try the Japanese version - they're doing some amazing stuff!
Too bad there's no english sub for the anime.
@@shawnjavery Yeah, I really wish there was - the episodes that come out on TH-cam are all raw 😭
eyyy i was about to send this video to you xD
@@silentkingsubject Nice xD
How are you playing currently? I want to play again but with newer cards
It''s interesting that we have an example of a gag dub benefiting a show with Ghost Stories, and one of it being to the detriment of the show, and its connected media, with Duel Masters.
Yeah if the dub wasnt such a parody like the yugioh one (although it was really funny) it wouldve actually achieved some success in america Duel masters is the #1 card game in japan for a reason
@@kaisarr7632 Wait, is it really #1??? I understood it is popular there, but #1 seems a little much :O .
@@Colorado0091 it was number one for a few years i think but i believe it no longer is.
@@Colorado0091 Both yu gi oh and duel masters constantly take the #1 #2 spot in Japan with 20 plus million cards sold every year Duel masters has always been a staple in Japan.
@@kaisarr7632 Okay thank you for the info :)
The Duel Masters english dub is a nation treasure, and I will not have anyone saying otherwise.
As someone who grew up playing Yugioh, collecting Pokémon in the games, and enjoyed the art of mtg, when duel master came to my school I was all for it! And I actually learned how to play it with friends and their parents
Even I cannot deny the shear force it brought to the us! The inspiration it might have caused in my favorite modern day games, vanguard, digimon, any many other games I don’t play.
If I ever made my own card game I would want it to be something like duel masters.
I hope that if some of my favorite childhood games came back, chaotic, duel masters, etc. I hope they come back with a very strong presence and don’t fall victim to how they flopped in the first place
Up to these day, i still argue that Duel Masters has the best, most unique art design Theme, Concepts, and Eisthetics of all Card Games. The mythos of the Creature world is just Brilliant!
Tbh I always liked duel masters cause it felt like playing MTG without playing MTG if that makes sense? Like the mechanics and all that were close to MTG but less overwhelming it found the perfect middle ground between the serious mtg art and the really anime looking art and the games could still get really involved tbh I think the game is perfect lol
So happy to have scanned and uploaded new images onto the wiki over the last month or so when I get to see them shine in videos like this.
[...even though sadly the Bolshack was not, since I don't actually own it. lol]
i would've bought SO MUCH duel masters if i wasnt a broke kid without access to a card store
This game deserves a third reboot.
No, no more reboots. Just start printing current sets in English. We literally have another set dropping in December.
@@teamcrypticcore1883I feel like that would be too much of a huge jump for the U.S. audience considering the game is nearly 20 years old. The modern sets are much more complex than even the last sets released in English. I think they should print cards from older sets so it’s not such a huge difference right from the get go, and it can eventually catch up.
"Only two types of cards: Creatures, and spells."
Haha... About that...
Hey Artster, you got summoned here too i see
@@oshiokimun2647 is this cardgame hell?
Wait, i could have got a duel masters card that has one of the best girls on it?
Curse you America!
Tama(?)
@@PutoMedicoBrujo yes
She's on a few iirc
A gem of a game. Here's to hoping they localize the Duel Masters Plays app at some point.
I've played duel master mobile game but sadly its Japanese only so i have to open the wiki everytime i want to play a card :(
Wait until you discover what stuff is going on in the physical realm of that game.
I feel your pain
Duel masters should’ve been the one
Blame 4kids. If they took its anime Seriously, people probably wouldn't treat the game as a joke. I LOVE DUEL MASTERS, and broke my heart that i discovered it when its already dead.
@@bryanmerel at least Duel Masters Play's is still alive
None other were more deserving than Duel Masters to be succesfull.
@@TravisPilgrim while I agree,
I'm also glad that it at least had some kind of lasting impact.
🙌🏼
14:03 nowadays there are currently several new types of cards (maybe not really new I guess, it's just lack of publication since the game is only growing in Japan. But they will expand the distribution to several countries in Asia I think, looking forward to this) that can be used in Duel Masters game, although it's not really general and usually needs certain cards to be used in the deck :
- Cross Gears, just an Equip cards to your creatures and supports them, included into 40-cards Main Deck
- Psychic creatures, a 2-4 sided card variant of creature cards that comes from Hyperspatial Zone (like Extra Deck although opponent can see it) that can "awakens" when certain conditions are met, "transformed" them into more powerful forms. They must be put into battle zone with certain cards (usually Hyperspatial spells) or effects
- Draghearts, like Psychic creatures, a 2 or 3-sided cards from Hyperspatial Zone that starts as Dragheart Weapons (Equip cards like Cross Gears) or Dragheart Fortress (face-up cards that can gives some effects during game), and they can transform into others and finally become Dragheart creatures. Usually used with Draguner creatures that only them can "use" them or some cards
- Gacharange creatures, just a unique creature cards that comes from Super Gacharange Zone (literally Extra Deck) and must be summoned from certain effects or cards
- D2 Fields, like Dragheart Fortress or Field spell cards from Yu-Gi-Oh!
- Orega Aura, basically an Equip cards for Gacharange creatures which can summons them and then equip themselves to it
13:32 and also this Erayo card is very similar to a Twinpact cards in Duel Masters, it's a 2 up-and-bottom card types in 1 card and can be used as either one (mostly combination of Creature and Spell), even some iconic cards like Bolshack Dragon has its own Twinpact version : Bolshack Dragon/Duelist Charger.
That means you can summon or put (by an effect) that Bolshack Dragon card as a creature into battle zone, or cast that Duelist Charger as spell. It's also works when you used certain searching effect like creature or spell searching
You also forgot to talk about Duel Masters Play’s A Japanese Mobile game that emulates The card game
you can get the The game via Japanese App Store and while the game is in Japanese there is a dedicated wiki ThatTranslate cards and we are pushing for a global release
Also I upload Japanese version of the duels in the duel masters anime
The only good thing to come out of Kaijudo was Scaradorable
Errata
Yu-Gi-Oh is making that word give me PTSD
XD
Future fusion.
I do wish to say this about the gag dub of the original anime for Duel Masters: While it probably did hurt the reputation of the card game itself, Plastic Cow Production had to adapt a pretty boring and bland source material. Their unique style of humor made me chuckle watching the show, so I don't exactly criticize them too much for it. I mean... a character joking about a website called www.noveltyflyingcapes.com is kind of dumb, but the dubbing team did register that domain and had created that website. That turned a cheap joke into something that I can respect, heh.
It should be noted that later seasons (which did actually start to go into more fantastical elements) were made by different people, and the humor added there is of a much lower bar, and that I will say was very cringe....
I miss Duel Masters so much. Love that game
My ONLY issue with reviews like these is they focus hard on the western part of these but not AS hard on the japanese side.
I wonder if part of why this game even exists is because magic in japan was not as big as games like pokemon or perhaps mon colle so wizards wanted a huge competitor for the japanese market.
Also yeah you did touch on this a bit but MAN i'd love a deeper dive on that aspect of it.
So it’s a good game that was killed in the west by weird marketing? That checks out.
I unironically like the English dub for the anime.
God I miss Duelmasters. While my friends were busy collecting Pokémon and yelling at each other over yugioh. Duel masters was a great alternative and it always caught my friends off guard. “Another card game? Do tell”
I'm probably going to piss a ton of people off with this comment but Duel Masters looks like a better more enjoyable version of Magic the Gathering.
I played magic for 15 years & yes, Duel Masters is more enjoyable without this terribble land dystem
God, I remember getting the Duel Masters GBA game way back when and sorta stumbling through it, it was fun, but I never really bothered looking more into the series. If I could find a good online platform for it, I'd be interested in trying it again
I played those!
4Ever Green!
XD
I used to be a member of the Duel Masters Club where they sent you a welcome package with a member card, stickers, mini posters, etc.
Most card games have the two spell speeds
Then there is yugioh, with 3 official and then a special 4th one
There also legends of runeterra with 3 options (instant, sorcery and instant but you retain priority)
Magic used to have 4 marked on the cards at one point.
1. Sorcery was only on your main phase
2. Instant was anytime the stack was empty
3. Interrupt was any time regardless of stack (but were mostly only things that targeted spells like counterspells)
4. Mana Source which couldn't be responded to and could be done even in the middle of paying for another spell.
Now mtg only has 3 speeds, and only two are marked on cards.
1. Sorcery (no changes)
2. Instant (which works like interrupt and contains all cards previously marked with non-sorcery speed, notably nerfing ritual spells which previously were uncounterable)
3. Special Action (which includes mana sources, which are activated abilities that produce mana, morph, and a few other strange abilities)
I still love and play Duel Masters, it’s forever my favourite TCG!
i would not mind a 30 minute video on why short printing a card in a booster pack is terrible
13:40 I... okay, when you say "fun" here are you being serious or sarcastic? I can't tell. Those certainly aren't fun things to me.
Edit: Wait. Are you implying that the Duel Masters dub is _bad?_ As the target audience, a young teen when it premiered, I can assure you I thought it was hilarious and found its more lighthearted style to be a welcome breath of fresh air from other, more high-stakes high-seriousness anime at the time, especially its closest analogue, Yu Gi Oh. As an adult that appreciation has only grown as I actually know enough about anime to actually really get some of the jokes that went over my head when I was 13-14. The gag dub did wonders and I am so, so glad that we got that instead of what to my understanding was a rather bland, uninspired shonen anime.
Thank you for talking about my nostalgia as a Romanian kid which watched other classmates get the cards for one leu a booster pack of 8? and immediatelly jumped in the bandwagon. (To put it lightly, rn a leu is 22 US pennies. Even one leu was decent for a kid with only that much so it was SUPER accesible).
Later on I bought a buttload of the cards as a young adult and have a nice few hundred cards long after discontinuation.
I wish I could make a cardgame like this myself.
I love how you throw ton of info and well thought insights without sound pedantic like many others. Excellent job, you definitely are making history in the TCG online content.
No joke this brings back some good memories. Now that you covered this, what are your thoughts on some of the gimmicks that we didn’t see here in the states?
I still have my old card duel masters cards and I love the gameboy advance game. A game store had the kaijudo starters decks for sale so i bought all of them so i have two copys of every color lol
Oh can you do an episode on the One Piece TCG? i liked the win condition in that game too
TCG games like Digimon are now using the Mana and shield form in one way or another! DM is getting more popular without the physical game
I can even argue that Digimon TCG 2020 is the true spiritual Successor of DuelMasters. I learn Digimon pretty quickly, even if i don't own the cards(yet), because i used to play Duelmasters. It still broke my heart to this day that i discovered Duel. masters 1 year after it's death.
@@bryanmerel Digimon TCG 2020 is very good game! I got some stuff sent to me
@@trickyplays240 me i don't even dream if getting English cards for digimon anymore. I live in the Philippines and i was so excited to play Digimon, though my hype plummit continuously after learning all its supply issues, scalping issues, and the fact that Philippines (AGAIN) is forced to use Japanese card as it seems its implied thta the japanese card was the one legal in Asia. I AM SICK AND TIRED OF USING CARDS THAT I CAN'T READ!
The artwork of Duel Masters has declined so much in the past 10 years. It barely looks like the game I fell in love with 15 years ago. Damn Japan.
I wish there was a way to play Duel Masters online, an app or PC game to get into it... Oh God, will I have to play the 3rd GBA game as my last chance? :P
I still to this day collect the cards for duel masters and it's my favorite trading card game. My second favorite is magic but it dose'nt have any equivalent to yugioh free fully automated simulator game which contains all the cards for free so I just skipped it and didn't want to deal with magic. It's not fun enough when you have to play in a sandbox environment on the pc and there are no magic players in my country, so in the end yugioh became the best trading card game that is still alive and is written in English text so that I can read 😅
the fall of duel masters you need to also include the amount of trash cards compared to staples. some cards are so good, you cant play if you dont have them. there are some packs with no good card in them, plus 55 card sets, you can do better than that. in japan packs have 5 cards and cost a dollar fifty. in the west they double the commons and charge 5 dollars. also four copies per card. you need four copies of a twenty dollar card, screw that
god... with anime doing a bunch of reboots/remakes of their old series (Fruits Basket, Higurashi/When They Cry, Shaman King). I think Duel Masters coming back as Duel Masters would be great... hell if Digimon could come back and make waves off nostalgia I think Duel Masters could do the same or maybe I'm just too optimistic and its a pipedream to think I could come back :S
I miss Duel Masters so much, I still have all my cards including a Bolshock dragon in a card protector. the biggest drive that draws me towards wanting to learn Japanese is just to play this game again.
Kohdok please make Buddyfight version of "7th deadly TCG sin:Errate text".
It is quite a well design game but destroy by the company that dun do well power creep control
I appreciate some Duel Masters love, even if you're preaching to the choir in my particular instance about the rules. I collected them as a child, and I've been painstakingly re-collecting them as an adult almost from scratch ever since I learned there's a definite end to the cards you can collect, unlike in Magic and Pokémon where rarity and sheer volume makes it impossible. I currently have 531/957 cards. I usually rely on former collectors selling the cards gently used for a fair price, because they dunno what they had, which is how I got Ballom and others for $10, and Bolshack Dragon and others for $20.
With the " you can't build a deck exclusively out of shield trigger cards", when I did just that in real life and one of the gba games. They weren't good, but could steal games where I had no right to
Every time i try to build a card game it just slowly turns into duel masters. Like carcinization but for ideas.
not a big fan of Rattata but I like Erratatext
These type of videos are really great!!! I would like to see one for Kaijudo and The Naruto TCG
Check out Kudou Kun ( th-cam.com/users/KudouKun ) he's a small card game youtuber who does an entire series about the Naruto CCG with hour long episodes going through its history and meta, currently on set 6 as of around 5 months ago. Great for someone like me who never played it when it was still on going.
The Naruto CCG is unironically my favorite card game ever. So unique, so much fun.
poor vanguard they don't even have screen time in this video.
so is it 23 people dislike this video probably like vanguard?????
Lol two speeds of cards? In Yu-Gi-Oh! We have 3 spell speeds with a hidden 4th spell speed and even cards that effect change or enchanted when used in a series of chains for greater effect,
there's a reason i stick to the ygo anime and collect cards for my fav characters only lmao
I am still waiting for Counter Speed Monsters and cards that IMMEDIATELY RESOLVE!
XD
i really wish duel masters was more popular in the US. i feel if they kept the anime aesthetic people would actually like it more instead of whatever kaijudo was...
The kaijudo anime . . . didnt do the card game any favors !
same
Aren't the flip cards in magic influenced by duel masters? Is there anything else magic took from duel masters?
Duel Masters video games on PS2 and GBA was entierly diffrent games in the western Market to the Japanese versions the only thing they had in common was the same card mechanics. Western PS2 one has these odd Flash Animated looking Cutscenes but none are from the TV show as well.
I love those games.
Yes man thanks I love this series! Keep up the good work, I can tell your very passionate about card-games and it's very endearing
7:27 YES!
When I was a kid it was so hard to chose which card to put in the mana zone and which to use later. It would have been so much simpler for me if DM had dedicated mana cards
I usually went with the most expensive card early game.
tbf there are effects that let you retrieve cards from mana
It was funny when i first was leaning mtg in my teens it seamed so complicated in the way it was being told to me but then half a hour in i realised it was just duel masters and i knew how to play that and i could more or less pick up and play as long as i read the affect text and the even funnyer thing was no one in the store knew what fuck was duel masters was. So its nice to learn why that was that they are so similar
I loved Duel Masters. I'm really happy to see Magic borrowing back from Duel Masters now with dual-faced modal cards with lands from Zendikar Rising [they play really well]. I'm holding out hope they print Corile into MtG - it's my favorite card ever printed in any TCG.
I wish duel masters came over from the legit takara sets because it's a fun game and bring over the other anime not like kaijudo
It's sad that the dub was what left me disinterested in this game. I even had a friend try to show me the game, but he also had the anime on in the living room amd I just couldn't take it seriously. I lost out then... and noy sure how motivated I am right now to try the game. However, hearing that Zoids has cards peeks my interest a little.
great video! the new Digimon TCG reminds me a lot of Duel Masters mixed with pokemon! can't wait to try Duel Masters one day!
"Converted Mana Cost" is out.
"Mana Value" is in.
I was in middle school when this game came out and I really liked it and wish there is a mobile game for it now.
I never realized how the Elder Scrolls tcg game was so Duel Masters inspired, with the card that you draw when attacked and the trigger ability.
I bought the duel master game for PS2 a few years back for 50 cents. It was worth it as a study gaming basics.
Duel Masters is one of the best TCGs ever. I will die on this hill. At the time I played Magic, Yu-Gi-Oh!, Hecatomb, and a bunch of other tcgs, but when I discovered Duel Masters I was simply in awe of its elegant design. Currently, I'm into magic again as well as Yu-Gi-Oh! duel links. Those games are great but they're not Duel Masters. If it ever releases in Europe again I'm going to spend what I can just to support it.
I'm just here to say I really enjoyed this video even though I've never touched Duel Masters or Kaijudo, the history was interesting and it was cool to see how influential the game was, I had no idea. Keep up the good work man, can't wait for the next one.
4:05 Duel Masters is still in the top 3 most popular card games in Japan.
Just FYI for the explainer part, "Converted Mana Cost" has been recently replaced with "Mana Value" as the term representing a Magic Card's total cost
It'll always be CMC
@@Gevaudan1471 Mana Value is a lot less wordy, I'll gladly take the change.
There are times where he sounds so much like Arlo, I can't help but think he's the voice behind the puppet...
I don’t even play card games anymore but these videos are so interesting
It should be noted, DM has massively evolved since its younger years and is no longer magic lite, but staying true to its core.
From adding 2 extra decks (one which was admittedly was a mistake), double-sided cards, triple-sided cards, and new colorless civs, or making creature spell hybrid cards(which came before Magic did it). DM is a masterpiece with its idea of innovation for new ideas, right now with its upcoming block is designed to celebrate its 20 years by having creatures get mashed up with each other creating really unique ideas.
Really if you can, learn the OCG format and be in for a fun-paced game that is still ever-evolving.
Great video Kohdok 👍, I’m glad that Duel Masters is still being talked about to this day.
duel masters, I miss it so. it was one of my fav card games next to yugioh and hell I even got the video game and loved it. I wish it did better in the US, I still have the first few cards/decks. loved the shields idea and mana etc..
This was very interesting.
Say, have you ever talked about FFG's Living Card Game system? I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on that.
Link please?
@@Ramsey276one To FFG's Living card game System? Look up games like Android Netrunner or Arkham Horror. FFG is "Fantasy Flight Games", btw.
@@chaosof99 Thanks
@@Ramsey276one Basically an LCG also works like a collectible card game, but the cards aren't released in booster packs where the contents are randomized, but instead the product is released in packs with predefined contents. You also always get the maximum number of copies you can use in a deck. So there is no artificial scarcity of cards and no trading/secondary market, and you always know what you buy, but it is also less exciting/monetizable.
@@chaosof99 Now I remember that!
I read about it
It’s sad that argent saga shut down :( it really gave me that magic x duel masters combo I liked
What ? Really ? It was an effort to create a game, combining the best parts of the most played tcg's ! Veteran players worked on it.
I did try it, but really hated its mana system. Even more than magic's lands . . . Everything else was awesome !
I can not understand why it did not use Duel Master's great Mana system.
Why has it ended ??
Vanguard is sorry for not calling itself Cardfight Rearguard
Love to see Duel Masters get some deserved attention! I still have my cards from 2004, although I have never happened to find anyone to play with due to its total lack of success.
Maybe You could try my card game, it is inspired by duel masters ;)
All I can say after the first 4 mins is
THANK YOU someone finally is not dumb and didn’t want to make a quick video shitting on it saying it was a Yugioh clone
Appreciate the love
As a huge DM fan I can finally recommend and save a well done video on the topic in English
I've been learning how to play the Digimon Card Game recently and didn't know anything about Duel Masters before watching this, so I was so surprised at how many mechanics were lifted from this game!
If Duel Masters ever came back to the US, I'd be down to play it
Hello! Have you ever played the Zatch Bell card game?
Great video, I didn't know anything about DM other than your comments on it in previous videos. It really set staples of TCGs