Letterpress Techniques: Overprinting With Neon Pantones!
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- We demonstrate the use of our antique Chandler & Price letterpress to craft a colorful business card using a technique called overprinting. With the use of three Pantone colors and two printing plates, we show how overlapping the colors in a design can create striking and unique results. This behind the scenes video also shows how we set up our press and register our colors. Follow along to see this press in action! We’ll be using Pantone Yellow 012, Pantone 806 Neon Pink, and Pantone 801 Fluorescent Blue! The combination of these colors can produce an incredible effect.
This turn of the century press dates back to 1912 when it was manufactured in Ohio based on the original patent from 1899. It’s a Gordon Style letterpress with one of the largest printable areas manufactured at that time. Using all new ink rollers and some elbow grease, we brought this press back to life and have been using it to print and die-cut some of our most challenging print projects yet. Hand feeding each sheet helps us keep a close eye on color, registration, and quality which helps us produce the finest work possible.
We hope to engage with creatives all over the world to promote challenging and inspiring designs. If you are a designer working in print and have a concept that pushes the limits… please reach out! We always enjoy collaborating with talented industry leaders to further the craft of letterpress!
By sharing these videos, we hope to help artists and creatives learn more about the process behind our printing and create a community where print design will flourish. Please leave any questions or comments in the comment section below and be sure to subscribe. We have so many more videos on the way!
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I like how the text takes advantage of this too.
Excellent.
Many thanks!
These are great
After 30 years in print, many of which spent on Heidelberg platen and cylinder presses, its good to see this craft being maintained and good to see it done well too, attention to detail is everything. I miss my machines ;)
How many price of this machin
How the plate is made?
Please post MORE. I love this content, the presentation, the filming and editing. So good!
Agreed with Adrock, please keep posting. Also, I want to know which paper you are using in this video for print..?? Can I but it online somewhere, please share link if any..??
Love the gizmoness of that machine. Hand feeding looks sketchy. Be careful. Love these videos.
Really neat to hear how they used melted wax back in the day.
Found out about this channel yesterday! Love it, definitely some great explanations and videos.
Took me an embarrassing amount of time to figure out why the neon pink was purple on. the. blue. roller.
Yellow often looks like a nasty green too but we bumped this one up with a little opaque white so it wouldn’t look so gross.
@@JukeboxPrintLive, that was 012? I've never mixed it down, although you do have to do a serious clean-up for lighter colors. (I know, you know that!)
012 straight from the can. I prefer it to the process yellow. Just a tad bit warmer...
Black Blue Red and Yellow are the basic colors in Printing
Seeing how voda means water, does that mean vodafone would be “water phone”?
Phone means sound so vodaphone would mean “sound of water”
In Vodafone's case, "Vo" comes from "voice" and "da" comes from "data". Put together, "Vodafone" is just the company product: VOice and DAta services over (deliberately misspelled) [PH]ONEs.
100% voda 😂
Voda means water, in cyrillic languages, if anyone's questioning why there's a drop in the logo.
Cyrilic? I think you means slavic.
I like the fact that 'voda' is Chech for water, so is 'woda' in Polish and 'вода' in Russian (all pronounced the same) and the third color in the large V forms a droplet.
Marcin Zdun i like the fact that in these languages “water” is just a “k” away from vodka
@@waterunderthebridge7950 that because -ka added when you wan't to make something shorter, smaller, cuter or not so serious. Baba - Babka - Babushka. Voda - Vodka - Vodochka - maximum of cuteness :)
@@SergeyRAD LOLKA :B
@@SergeyRAD Yeah, except in my language there is a stepping away from the root in the process, the o becomes ó [u], and the d is voiceless (as in [vutka] for wódka). But I digress... :)
Same in serbian😄 вода
As someone who did this manually many years ago and now uses tons of business cards, you’re going to be my go to company for my next batch of business cards. Your skills are impeccable!
Thank you very much! It took years and years of practice and learning to adapt to all the different designs that come through!
Jukebox Print I can tell you work hard at it! I love your videos
You will only give these out only to customers/clients that either preordered a product/service. Giving these out is like giving out trophies. Customers got a earn it. If not, snap a picture and give it back.
Took me back 65 years to my first year as as a apprentice printer. Did a 7 year apprenticeship-Love the Chandler and Price-will never wear out.
Offset printing : am I joke to you
Hahha!
it is so nice seeing the process and how the skill is needed on the swift pass through of paper.
really cool result on the font off set...with perfect image. It really stands out!
That Impression on the Paper is so Beautiful.
M Umair thank you! It takes a while to level the press for that kind of impression. It has to be just right!
Çok iş bastım birde pelur kağıt basardık 👍🧢
7:50 - Oh god the images in my head 😬
I am reviving a old C and P press. I have a 3"pulley on the motor so the motor speed has to be vary slow. I see you are driving with a vary small diameter on the motor end, does this work ok with the splice on the belt? And what is the diameter of the pulley on the motor end.
Thanks in advance, am thinking of going smaller. Bob
Is your press a new series or old style C&P? Our drive at the motor end is probably about 3” as well but I’ll have to take some measurements for you. The belt has no problem making it around this even with the splice. Have you considered sourcing a treadle instead of motorizing? It’s quite the workout!
Been a press operator for 20 years on everything from the Heidelberg windmill letterpress to a modern sm74 and I've never seen baby blue ink forms before
there was people back then who could create complex machines like this but couldn't think to invent tape
funy0n they not yet know how to make thin and strong paper also the chemicals for the glue, more over how to put that glue on that thin paper.
@@BananaAllergy yeah i know, it's a joke
You didn't show the trimming! Trimming is very satisfying!
this was the most satisfying video I watched in a while. Love the old school printing machines and techniques.
That’s such an incredible process, I really like the results of the overprinting.
I have two questions about the process, first is about the printing plates, do you make them yourself from a design sent in to you or do you design the whole thing? And second is about the ink coverage on the press, do you need a specific amount to work or does the ink roller and rotation combination adjust the amount of ink that gets transferred to the paper?
This design was made in-house but almost all of our real letterpress work is ordered by our clients. For the ink coverage... It's really just going by feel and sound. The rollers make a very subtle "velcro" kind of sound when they roll up over the ink disk and when this sound is just right - I know there's enough.
nostalgia y recuerdos de mis inicios en las artes graficas... esto si era arte desde su armado tipografico has la limpieza de la maquina ... =)
excelente video ademas....
I loved this video! I'm a printer by trade myself. Of course this press is before my time. Thank you for the video! My dad is also a printer and he definitely would remember this type of printing!
That is awesome!
I am glad your video pop up into my suggestions. Keep going.. we would love to see more.
one more cool video. Than the last one, since this press is lot familiar (what I often see here in shops), it is more interesting to watch how it is done. Loved it :)
Cool counter-rotating ink discs. You don’t see many that are actually functional these days, not that they were a big hit back in the day or that they make much difference. You can definitely see and hear the wear in the press- visually in the backlash of the ink-disc and audibly in the various clanks on the press. The ratchet on the back side of the ink disc is creating some of those sounds, but there are others. When you run enough of these presses for long enough, you start hearing things... Speaking of sounds, I thought I heard the air pump on a windmill running in the background during some of those clips... The motor is struggling a bit- basically the pulley is too small -the arc of contact is too small and the belt slips, more at times and less at times. That’s why you hear the motor speed up and slow down as the load from the press changes. Dollars to doughnuts, your drive pulley is super polished from the belt slipping. There is no harm in this except premature wear of both belt and pulley, but they are easily and cheaply enough replaced. And the only solution would be a half shaft to step the speed down in two steps. (Assuming you wanted to keep the motor/speed controller original and not go 3-phase with a VFD). Great video. Keep up the good work!
Beautiful indeed... I'm a manual typesetter as a profession, so I have a very warm feeling in my heart seeing this. :-)
Yes i would like to see moreeeee and moreeeee
Do you have a video of how the plates are made? I would love to see that.
I have a newfound love and respect for the time & effort that goes into this craft and line of work. Honestly mindblown 🤯 new subscriber and look forward to watching more vids 🤘🏼
I'm in love with this process
Inspirational! Love your press, I have never seen an ink plate like that and four rollers, wonderful.
Why did you use this machine instead of the one from the last video with 5 colors?
We shot this video during our regular production hours so the press in the last video was busy being run by another operator.
Tengo una y la uso para estampar libros hot foil
NOT EASY, it's a DELICATE process... and NICE FINAL PRODUCT !!!!
So fascinating! I could watch this for hours! Thank you for sharing!
Love the colours and the simplicity of the card.
I am in printing business, this outdated technique is catching up again not soo many printer does this kind of job
It is rare and sought after for the highest quality in small print!
What a beautiful press! I would absolutely love to learn to work on this amazing piece of art! Thank you for the display! I’m curious...when you switched from the pink to the blue, I didn’t see you clean off the pink from the plate. Is that something you did and simply didn’t address as you did with the previous color, or does it not matter when switching to the darker color? Thanks! Much love, Shelbie =)💛💕
It's even more amazing that if someone tried to manufacture these today, they'd be slapped with so many lawsuits for making dangerous machinery it isn't funny. Not to mention OSHA. Yet you can keep using the original ones :) (Maybe, if they're old, they're not dangerous?)
This machine is incredibly dangerous. It has a crushing power of almost 50 tons. If you don't get your hand out in time you will definitely lose fingers or even an entire hand.
@@JukeboxPrintLive - I was being facetious, in case people missed that. It's just one of those blind spots. If it's an old piece of equipment, there's just nobody around to sue, so nobody has a vested interest in blocking manufacturer or sales. I personally believe that OSHA is causing most of the problems with loss of industry in the country. It's just too hard to start up businesses, because you have to try to make 100% safe on inherently unsafe practices (like molten steel)
Fucking gooood that´s all folks !!!!
Hello! I have the exact same C&P 14.5" x 22" press, although mine is from 1926. I was wondering where you suggest getting new rollers and trucks?
Our trucks were custom machined at a local machine shop, and the rollers were recovered by Advanced Roller Co. using the original cores.
Try getting ahold of Lloyd Bowcott at www.cookkettlepress.com/ He's the only other fellow we know of who has this same size machine. Hopefully he can help you out!
@@JukeboxPrintLive Ha I just got, like literally today, the large flywheel delivered from Lloyd. The only thing left to do is get trucks and rollers. Thanks so much for the reply.
Are you able to just feed these letterpressed cards through a more modern printer pressing or does all of the printing have to be done by letterpress?
Also, what is the process for making your plates; is it in house or outsourced?
If we use a paper that is 20pt or thinner we are able to digitally print a design first and then add a hit of letterpress afterward. We do a lot of printing that has full color digitally printed elements and then add a center area that is letterpress ink or foil. The plates are made in a different department for "plate-making" where film, developer, and acid etching takes places.
I love this video! Such a beautiful process 💕 where would you buy such letterpress? I've looked online but it's rather difficult to find it :(
Bro I have no clue why your videos capture my attention, maybe it is simply the fact that the printing press changed the world. You are a master at this craft, thanks for your time and effort.
I like that, "Never ever consider reaching for it!" did that once on a 10 x 15 Windmill, when sheets kept dropping off the pickup vacuum tubes. I still have the scars........
Ooouch!
must of been on a Heidelberg
Never realised it was such an involved process until I saw these videos. Great to watch
Most people don’t get the chance to see how this kind of work is done. We’ve been making these videos just to show how much work really goes on behind the scenes. Thanks for your comment!
I like the way you show all those fixtures that we don't know they exist. greetings from El Salvador (Central America).
Rodolfo Cabrera thank you! I try to be as detailed as possible.
I love these old machines, the gentle quiet movements are fantastic, glad to see they are still being used to produce high quality prints.
Wow, amazing. There such a beauty to this craft. ❣️
I'm sure others have asked before but what are you washing the ink off with? It can't be just water?
It's a water soluble solvent!
how do u create the printing plates? cnc?
They are acid etched magnesium dies. A photo engraving technique!
Cool
@@JukeboxPrintLive Are they reusable?
@@raywest6547 Yes! We can get quite a few runs out of a single printing plate.
@@JukeboxPrintLive Is that by choice to keep the whole process the old fashioned way? Polymer plates offer more flexibility since you can prepare them in-house, assuming you don't etch the metal cliches yourself.
Is there a name or a term for the satisfying clanking sounds the press makes?
Music!
Learned letter press in high school
It was very satisfying. Its a true art Ran large offset for 35 years.
Remind me when I was 15 y o, apprentice. Lol
Take some VODA ВОДА VODKA ВОДКА
How does the ink not smear when you stack the cards
"Voda" in Russian translation is water
Thanks from Brazil.
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Isn't getting your hand caught in a printing press one of those injuries you hear about people getting back in the victorian times . seems like something ive heard before. That and getting your hand caught in a weaving machine.
Awesome video. Thank you!
where can I buy the parts that make the sheet fit?
I have no idea. We've had these gauge pins since 1920!
What is the stock that you used? It took the debossing crisply and there didn't seem to be any ink migration along the fibers at the edges. I would have also like to have seen how you set the plate/platen spacing to achieve the debossing. Do you machine the plates in-house?
how much cost for 1000 business cards printing
You are in Toronto! That's great news.
Another fantastic video!!
Old model but best model
Yo trabajo en una imprenta aquí en México murió el dueño y el hijo que quedó a cargo del negocio vendió como chatarra una chandler y más de treinta cajas de tipos de plomo galeras hierros para hacer las formas en vez de madera de la marca mammoth espacios cuadrados rallas o filetes de bronce en fin mucho material valioso que pena me dan las personas que no aprecian las cosas con historia aún nos queda una 11 x 18 que también esta destinada al desguace la más una guillotina avance pequeña a motor me dio mucha tristeza dehuasarla y ver como este pendejo no aprecio este pieza como su padre y yo que no eran mías en fin a veces la cosas caen en manos equivocadas
Mannnnn..... U reminded me of the days when I started to train on this machine..... So many times my fingers got caught between the plates.... 😂😂😂😂
It's nostalgic for me.
We had two of these in our print shop class in junior high. NO! Nobody ever got hurt. Respect.
Perhaps there is a video out on it already, however, where to how to do you produce the plates themselves? Looks like they might be one-time use deals?
Love it, keep them coming
you made me so happy to see one working again, I operated one of those for 20 years and then they got a Kluge, after I retired the company sold all of them, they could not find any one that could operate them.
Fifty years for me.
That's great, but why not do a 2up die. Lots of room for it, it would only cost a little bit more but save half the labour. Looks like a pretty heavy card as well. The irony is that people want the impression from the letterpress because it's retro I guess but, back in the day the boss would have had a fit if you have too much impression. I run a small printshop, letterpress, diecutting, foiling embossing to offset & digital. I love the way these machines run forever, while all the newer digital stuff outdates every 5 years or so.
Two up would've been fine but we are trying to demonstrate printing in the simplest way instead of maximizing the run. Most people here don't understand the terminology of "ups". The look of deep impression works great for magnesium or copper dies but a head press operator would certainly have a fit if you ever tried to do this with lead type from the era. No one should ever try to push lead type into the paper for this effect.
This is the content i signed up for, love it
Coming from an offset background, I have a zillion questions. Can you print a solid with that press? Do I see a ratcheting ink well at the top of the circular table? You never mention ink density, are you using a pms book or just winging it?
You can do a solid with this press but it wouldn't look nearly as nice as an offset flood. There is an inkwell up there for much longer runs but we never use it. As for the density and ink, we used a few fluorescent inks straight outta the can so color matching isn't a big issue.
Nice and interesting ! Cool to see those antique machines still working in a precise and silent way. Lucky guy doing an artistic job. Thanks for sharing
Thank You, Kindly share. Keep up....
Beautiful work! When you overprint, does the plate not pick up any of the still wet ink from the paper? I use Caligo Safe Wash inks and wonder if they would contaminate even the rollers and disc if I overprint the second colour right away.
Fantastic vid, what kind of base do you use? I was looking at buying a Boxcar base (from the US - I'm in Sydney Aus) but figured I can probably just buy something local. What thickness in mm is it?
We use a couple different base heights depending on the thickness of the plate or the process we're doing. You can't go wrong with a boxcar base but almost any solid chunk of aluminum that is ground down to .875" inches would work well.
OK, about the sheet you taped to the tympan and used to set up your pins; why did you then cut the tympan and slip it under. Wouldn't it have been just as effective to simply remove the sheet?
I had no real interest in overprinting. I understood from very young that yellow and blue make green, red and blue make purple, etc. What interested me greatly was in how you set up your pins. That is something I have been struggling with. My solution was to use a plastic tympan and home-made compressible pins... but they are hard to adjust once they are stuck down.
My press came with a few sticks of sealing wax. I guess it works, sort of, but it was messy. Tape looks easier,
I slipped the spot sheet under the tympan using it as a base to layer on thinner papers to account for any unevenness in the print. For instance, if the V was printing with enough impression and the A wasn’t, I would build up a layer out of tissue paper on the spot sheet in that area until it is even. The printing plate, the base, the press bed, the lock up, and the platen all have tiny inaccuracies that add up. The hills and valleys in the impression need to be evened out and a large plate can sometimes take hours to perfect.
Those adhesive compressible gauges are a nuisance. If anything, a few pieces of leading with double sided tape can work too.
Wow that's printing system was very brilliant i miss them we have that machine 20 years before and accuracy was amazing i miss that printing machine
Digital printing just doesn't compare!
This Press is there in My School.
Where I can get this metal marks? Really nice press and very Art work... best wishes...
older machine. make my brain extra shock
Ohhh yeah!
do you have an idea for those who make paper bags and want to put logos on them
I’d prefer no music so we can listen to the hypnotic rhythm of the press in action.
i deal with antiques and you cant beat the old school way of doing things. sure you can do it other ways and faster, but odds are the new machines will be in the landfill in 10 years.
...My dad used these printers to steel-cut gaskets for his manufacturing business (air brakes)
...he engineered a harness that would yank both of the operators' arms back on the press cycle
...no more incidents
Many of these older machines were outfitted with parts that would push you out of the way if you didn't get your hand out in time. Sadly we don't have that kind here!
Man what are you using to clean your rollers? And why magnesium plates? Don’t they bend and crimp?
forgot a k?
After all it is wonderful. Exact location. Cool color. Great. 모든 내용을 다 이해는 못했지만 너무 잘 봤습니다.
does pantone have more color options than cmyk while printing? why does one go for pantone rather than cmyk?
CMYK is a color process that creates a spectrum of color using Cyan, Magenta, Yellow and Black. These 4 colors aren’t always capable of printing uniquely bright colors such as hot oranges or bright greens. The Pantone system makes it possible to create an enormous color range, and keep that color range consistent across multiple print processes. Brands work with Pantone colours so that they always have the exact same color every time. CMYK or RGB printing doesn’t do this quite as well.
I was trained in letterpress printing at a Tech high school here in CT in the 1970's. I loved it and resisted the move toward offset printing, but letterpress was a 'dying' art. I had a small shop for a few years in my parent's basement with a 6x10 kelsey. I can only imagine all the type cases emptied, used for arts and crafts and the type melted down for fishing weights. 😳
I miss having the equipment around as it would be fun to print jobs that are appreciated for the impression marks! I love it.
Thanks for stirring up some good memories. I could use some and those were good times.
Cheers,
Pete
We remember the days of our Adana 5x8 in the attic with just a case of 12pt Caslon to learn with...
We're years away from that now but not much has changed! Thanks for your comment Pete.
Believe it or not, vintage machines like these are still used commercially in my country. We had a printing business back in the day. My dad was a veteran in the field with over 30 years of experience. We had 2 Heidelbergs KOR and KORD. The KOR was one of the earliest models, and a manual Victoria press like this one, removed the printing parts and repurposed just for die-cutting.
We used this press as our main die cutting machine for many years before adjusting the bed height for printing. A manual Victoria press would be a dream to have. I love presses with perfect parallel impression.
These videos are eye openers for those of us who are not ex pro printers. Great work. I'm curious what solvent you use to wash away the ink and clean the presses ?