Hi there Dave , I have just purchased the hikoki framer, the weight and balance is pretty good compared to others . NAIL EQUIP in Lilydale Victoria does a nose mod for the gun for about $90.00. It's a lot easier for scew nailing .I was full time framing with senco air guns sn-4 & sn-70 which were heavier than the hikoki framer. The nose mods are well worth getting the gun is so much better.
I totally agree on the frustration of spring tension and miss firers. Give the machine a good clean out and lubricate and it comes good. I agree you shouldn't have issues after 3 months. Good hikoki rep in Melbourne, definitely worth having his number, super helpful guy big reason why my green tool numbers are growing. Also hanging out for next generation, I'm hearing 1kg lighter! Never going back to gas.... 18v 3ah batteries help with weight alittle too. Happy nailing and keep up the great vids
never going back to gas. I owned this gun for 4 years, zero issues. Like you said, it needs to be cleaned if it begins to misfire. But the interval to which I have to clean the gun is far less frequent than when I had to service and clean my old Paslode guns. Owned 4 Paslodes, 2 Framers, 2 finshers. Too unreliable, always in the shop. Always needed servicing just to get somewhat close to the performance of this unit. Switched and never looked back. Oh and you don't need an expensive, special fuel to drive nails either. Win.
Hey mate I have a heap of these guns the misfire is really a killer chuck a bit of graphite powder in the track where the nails go in and also the coil that you pull back to load the nails and pull it back and let go a few times then load the nails back in and should be sweet! Also was speaking to a hikoki rep and he was saying that the paper that hold the nails can bind up and cause a issue just take the top off and clean out cheers mate
Good review this is the exact things I’ve noticed and had issues with using my hikoki framer. I love the gun but there is definitely some things that could’ve been done better. There angle grinder is the best though hands down.
The pressure to depress the tip can be lessened by cutting the spring down that’s in the gun. It’s also lighter then the milwaukee by 300 grams, that paired with a 3ah makes it a much nicer gun to use.
I am looking at getting the Hikoki as I have seen good reviews testing against other guns and the price is reasonable. I would try silicone spray in the clip holder to fix the misfires.
Great review, enjoyed your analysis. I don’t think anything is good enough to fully replace the paslode yet but it doesn’t hurt having a battery gun too.
Battery only guns , are improving on each release, but Paslode still rules , which is testament to them considering the technology has stayed the same, apart from adding li-on batteries. Being lightweight is key for a 1st fix nailer , and that extra kick from the gas ,gives it the power. Great review, but don’t get rid of that Paslode just yet …. 👍🏼
@JustAChippie well if you have to supply your own fixings , then yes I’d go for a battery only gun . But for every day use , they are too heavy in my opinion. As technology moves forward, for sure Paslode will have to change something. But for now , they are still the best framer nailer out there.
Hikoki is actually lighter weight than Milwaukee. You probably looked at Hikoki with batteries and nails and M18 empty (no battery or nails). New Makita will be between in weight but with a longer magazine than Hikoki and hopefully better balanced so it may end up being the sweet spot with current technology. Even the new Dewalt flywheel is now about the same weight. The prior version Dewalt was noticably lighter, but lacks power and reliability. Paslode is now the only one of the 4 that is noticably lighter (but lacks power and is less convenient with the gas and maintenance). I'm fairly certain Milwaukee is the heaviest but most powerful, unless the new Makita matches it.
I use the Paslode coil nailer a lot. Villa sheets in bathrooms😁 If I don't keep a drop of oil down the firing pin on each magazine change? The f'er will jam on me or misfire! (Villa, and particular bathrooms are dusty) I started having a problem with my Makita 16ga finisher. I started a drop of oil down the firing pin on that. Bingo!... No misfires! So, a drop of oil (machine oil, I can imagine would be fine) in the magazine and firing pin would be a reasonable idea?
i had the same frustrations with my gun with the skewing of nails, take it to nail equip and they will cut the spring and weld on some better teeth for skewing. also switch the rafter hook to the other side so it can sit in 35 timber and wont stop it from spinning it around for 90 timber
I'm not a framer so not using it as often as a chippy but as a steely still use it quite a lot because most of the time end up having to do the framers job because some framers don't set their pockets for the steel right or if it's pre-fab the pockets are usually wrong. I haven't had an issue with misfiring for a long time, I used to have to hold the rack too and a bit of wd-40 used to get it going again but the gun is quite old now and doesn't really misfire at all, maybe these guns just need a bit of wearing in. The battery is annoying too, when it shows 2 bars but is nearly dead is a pain in the ass. I'm happy with the gun, I don't recommend it, though, I get apprentices ask about it all the time and I usually say go with Paslode or Milwaukee if you really want to go battery, the Milwaukee are weighted not the best but overall they shoot better and you can skew far easier because the tip on the Hikoki is much to be desired.
I love mine ,had it for over 12 months. the misfires are mainly from a build up of paper from the nail clips. you just need to clean it out occasionally.
You know what’s the worst thing about these charged air guns… you gotta be honest with me …when you had your trakkie daks on…these guns would always pull them down 😂
@@baseballdude8491 I use an airgun for the majority of my framing. Only get the paslode out for stuff not worth setting the compressor up for. I don’t use it often
The only time the hook has been useful is when up in the trusses and being hable to hang it off the rafters etc. my rafter hook broke one day as i stepped down off a ladder, the step down and then sudden stop on the ground just snapped the hook in half. Am now using just a regular makita hook on it. this also prevents the annoying spinning the gun will do when hanging on the belt. i have had this gun 18 months and i am now only having issues with misfires. definately worth the money as only having to buy nails and no gas is so cheap
AKU? I mean Hikoki/Metabo HPT has a 36V Framer that is even better than the 18V unit he is using in video Don't be confused by the 36V/18V Multivilt battery he is using @@efektmurowany
I sold my Paslode and brought Hikoki Framer - sick of paying for gas ⛽️ love the Green!
Hi there Dave , I have just purchased the hikoki framer, the weight and balance is pretty good compared to others . NAIL EQUIP in Lilydale Victoria does a nose mod for the gun for about $90.00. It's a lot easier for scew nailing .I was full time framing with senco air guns sn-4 & sn-70 which were heavier than the hikoki framer. The nose mods are well worth getting the gun is so much better.
@@peterreynolds4303 thanks for the heads up! I’ll look into getting one, thanks!
Hi, is it possible to get a photo od this mod? I live in europe so no chance to drop a nailer in Australia 😂😂
I totally agree on the frustration of spring tension and miss firers. Give the machine a good clean out and lubricate and it comes good. I agree you shouldn't have issues after 3 months. Good hikoki rep in Melbourne, definitely worth having his number, super helpful guy big reason why my green tool numbers are growing. Also hanging out for next generation, I'm hearing 1kg lighter! Never going back to gas.... 18v 3ah batteries help with weight alittle too. Happy nailing and keep up the great vids
never going back to gas. I owned this gun for 4 years, zero issues. Like you said, it needs to be cleaned if it begins to misfire. But the interval to which I have to clean the gun is far less frequent than when I had to service and clean my old Paslode guns. Owned 4 Paslodes, 2 Framers, 2 finshers. Too unreliable, always in the shop. Always needed servicing just to get somewhat close to the performance of this unit. Switched and never looked back. Oh and you don't need an expensive, special fuel to drive nails either. Win.
Hey mate
I have a heap of these guns the misfire is really a killer chuck a bit of graphite powder in the track where the nails go in and also the coil that you pull back to load the nails and pull it back and let go a few times then load the nails back in and should be sweet! Also was speaking to a hikoki rep and he was saying that the paper that hold the nails can bind up and cause a issue just take the top off and clean out cheers mate
Good review this is the exact things I’ve noticed and had issues with using my hikoki framer. I love the gun but there is definitely some things that could’ve been done better. There angle grinder is the best though hands down.
The pressure to depress the tip can be lessened by cutting the spring down that’s in the gun. It’s also lighter then the milwaukee by 300 grams, that paired with a 3ah makes it a much nicer gun to use.
good point, any tips or info on doing this?
@@whtevr1212pull the clam shell apart. Take out the spring behind the tip, cut about 1/4 of it off.
I am looking at getting the Hikoki as I have seen good reviews testing against other guns and the price is reasonable.
I would try silicone spray in the clip holder to fix the misfires.
Great review, enjoyed your analysis. I don’t think anything is good enough to fully replace the paslode yet but it doesn’t hurt having a battery gun too.
Battery only guns , are improving on each release, but Paslode still rules , which is testament to them considering the technology has stayed the same, apart from adding li-on batteries.
Being lightweight is key for a 1st fix nailer , and that extra kick from the gas ,gives it the power.
Great review, but don’t get rid of that Paslode just yet …. 👍🏼
@JustAChippie well if you have to supply your own fixings , then yes I’d go for a battery only gun . But for every day use , they are too heavy in my opinion.
As technology moves forward, for sure Paslode will have to change something.
But for now , they are still the best framer nailer out there.
@JustAChippieone more cons, less power
Hey Paslode was first but it’s becoming the second and third behind in recent new technology.
Hikoki is actually lighter weight than Milwaukee. You probably looked at Hikoki with batteries and nails and M18 empty (no battery or nails). New Makita will be between in weight but with a longer magazine than Hikoki and hopefully better balanced so it may end up being the sweet spot with current technology. Even the new Dewalt flywheel is now about the same weight. The prior version Dewalt was noticably lighter, but lacks power and reliability. Paslode is now the only one of the 4 that is noticably lighter (but lacks power and is less convenient with the gas and maintenance). I'm fairly certain Milwaukee is the heaviest but most powerful, unless the new Makita matches it.
Swap out the spring in the safety with a softer spring. Makes the gun a whole lot better
I use the Paslode coil nailer a lot.
Villa sheets in bathrooms😁
If I don't keep a drop of oil down the firing pin on each magazine change? The f'er will jam on me or misfire! (Villa, and particular bathrooms are dusty)
I started having a problem with my Makita 16ga finisher. I started a drop of oil down the firing pin on that. Bingo!... No misfires!
So, a drop of oil (machine oil, I can imagine would be fine) in the magazine and firing pin would be a reasonable idea?
Lubricate with what Dave? I have that problem. Looking forward to the new Makita one! 👍
Get dry glide and give ya mag a spray and it will never miss fire
@@HaydenKellas what brand is that? I’m in the U.K.? Thank you for reply 👍
i had the same frustrations with my gun with the skewing of nails, take it to nail equip and they will cut the spring and weld on some better teeth for skewing. also switch the rafter hook to the other side so it can sit in 35 timber and wont stop it from spinning it around for 90 timber
I'm not a framer so not using it as often as a chippy but as a steely still use it quite a lot because most of the time end up having to do the framers job because some framers don't set their pockets for the steel right or if it's pre-fab the pockets are usually wrong. I haven't had an issue with misfiring for a long time, I used to have to hold the rack too and a bit of wd-40 used to get it going again but the gun is quite old now and doesn't really misfire at all, maybe these guns just need a bit of wearing in. The battery is annoying too, when it shows 2 bars but is nearly dead is a pain in the ass.
I'm happy with the gun, I don't recommend it, though, I get apprentices ask about it all the time and I usually say go with Paslode or Milwaukee if you really want to go battery, the Milwaukee are weighted not the best but overall they shoot better and you can skew far easier because the tip on the Hikoki is much to be desired.
I love mine ,had it for over 12 months. the misfires are mainly from a build up of paper from the nail clips. you just need to clean it out occasionally.
Great review. These battery guns will get lighter and better as new models comes out. It want be long b4 paslode will have their version.
Bit of wd40 in the slider fixed my misfire issue. But the tip is frustrating it's just to short
AEG next!!!
Also a review on finishing nailer???
I sold mine and went back to paslode and an air gun. Too heavy, and hard to get it into a lot of spots
You know what’s the worst thing about these charged air guns… you gotta be honest with me …when you had your trakkie daks on…these guns would always pull them down 😂
Go ahead and keep buying canisters
No thank u
I'll use my pneumatic with an air compressor if I want to save weight
@@baseballdude8491
I use an airgun for the majority of my framing. Only get the paslode out for stuff not worth setting the compressor up for. I don’t use it often
Good news for you. Makita framer nail gun is coming soon.
put a rubber band/hair tie around the head of the gun and clip to solve the miss fire option dude
The only time the hook has been useful is when up in the trusses and being hable to hang it off the rafters etc. my rafter hook broke one day as i stepped down off a ladder, the step down and then sudden stop on the ground just snapped the hook in half. Am now using just a regular makita hook on it. this also prevents the annoying spinning the gun will do when hanging on the belt. i have had this gun 18 months and i am now only having issues with misfires. definately worth the money as only having to buy nails and no gas is so cheap
I love this gun
But the 36V is even better
You mean aku 36v?
AKU?
I mean Hikoki/Metabo HPT has a 36V Framer that is even better than the 18V unit he is using in video
Don't be confused by the 36V/18V Multivilt battery he is using
@@efektmurowany
Dry glide on the mag every couple months an it never miss fires
What do you tell your barber you want when you get a haircut?
I actually cut my own hair, bit of a challenge doing the back, but saves heaps of time
Framing with 75mm nails doggy bro, you sure you’re not a kiwi?
Yeah you was not using a brand new Dewalt either.. lol
Hikoki framer is lighter than Milwaukee Framer Hikoki weight includes battery Milwaukee weight only skin
I reckon the rafter hook is a piece of shit spins on my bag straight away the hook on the fixer is way better
Sorry
I shot myself in the hand with one of those, because the nose teeth are shit as!! Slipped on a piece of 4x2 scew shot
Paslode is superior to all by far, minus the gas
first
battery is so unreliable”. Three months battery dead.
You have warrianty mate😅
U coulda bought a new battery with the nails u used up 😂