The only people who think PC is "better" at everything are either broke teenagers who've never actually owned a Mac, or a gamer with no familiarity beyond specialized desktops and clunkier "gaming" laptops. (Or just kids trying to look cool, but they tend to fall under one or both of the prior categories.) Ignoring the ultra-portable categories like ultrabooks: PC's are cheaper and generally have better performance/software flexibility, but at the expense of hit-or-miss build-quality. Whereas Macs are ridiculously reliable and have amazing build-quality, but with a weakness of not actually excelling at anything else. When it comes to ultrabooks, you get the same pros and cons listed above, but with the added bonus of the PCs costing the same price as the Mac lineup. (Speaking from experience with both.)
コイノ/ Koino Intensive in what sense if i may ask? Generally visual novels have low system requirements to run due to the nature of graphics in visual novels. Most modern hardware (even low-end ones) should handle it no problem.
@Isyraq Zamri well I remember trying to play *VA-11 HALL-A* on my old laptop and it would frequently stutter during the cutcenes. So I meant it in that sort of way (maybe bad optimization was the fault?).
コイノ/ Koino should be no problem i guess. I mean, it could run Death Smile in the video, an intensive shoot-em-up. As long as it is not too graphically demanding, integrated graphics should handle most lightweight titles and even older games with no issues.
I have Skullgirls on the GPD win, and it actually doesn't run at a full 60fps, and this device has the same specs except for more ram. I'm not sure I would recommend this for that game unless you don't mind frameskipping.
Programming with that tiny and mushy keyboard? No thanks. It's portable for sure, but I wouldn't get this for any type of work ever. But that's just me.
IDK how far you think you will get with an Intel Atom, but it probably won't be as far as you think...I highly doubt that this would be fast enough or ergonomical enough to use regularly.
bufubello diamara So your netbook can handle text? Wow, that's pretty impressive! In the meanwhile my 13 inch Macbook Pro (2016) struggled to run Visual Studio until I turned source analysis off. Good job Apple... And good job MS for optimizing VS for Mac.
I'm thinking more of using it as the ultimate Small Form Factor computer. Plug your own monitor, keyboard and mouse to it and use it like a regular desktop. And It's so small you can just hide it behind the monitor
I really liked the angles you showed the device. I've seen this device before and I was unaware there was a heat vent thing near the screen. Plus the close ups really made the device show off just how much it looks like a mini mac. wow. 10/10
Great choice if you want those few Nintendo games otherwise its not really giving you access to a decent library of games. Something Windows based lets you run everything with some amazing emulators out there now. You can even start improving those older game with stuff like Retroarch to get high res widescreen super smoothed versions of classic games throughout gaming history. Or Nintendo Switch. I'm not knocking it for being a strangely underpowered tablet because Nintendo didn't really have the faith in the Switch. Its huge success has changed its fate. I believe its even getting updated hardware during its current version run and a stupidly impressive version is coming as soon as Nintendo and Nvidia can put it all together. So next year maybe? Until then, you want something Windows based for maximum emulation. You can emulate under android but its a bit limited.
hah.. just saw this video and Im ALREADY drinking my morning coffee... usually once i start your video i have to stop it and go make some delicious coffee... but this time im prepared. xD
ZephyrosMX | Gamer | Procrastinator I highly doubt it. This is not a powerful device at all. Look up Linus tech tips video on it for a more indepth review.
So it's still not possible to type at full speed on this, then I think GPD Win still makes more sense, although I can only type with my thumbs, but definitely at a much higher speed than touch screen keyboard. And using the integrated gaming thumb stick to control mouse is quite usable too, I can use it everywhere I go without needing a table.
Windows licences for small touch screen devices are 'free' and they introduced that to match the other 'free' OS' on the market in iOS and Android. The con is that they really aren't free but you can grab windows 10 and install it on a compatible device with a small touch screen.
It is definitely a switching adapter, but that does not mean what you think it means. A switching adapter refers to how it changes the voltage, not that it can charge at different voltages. Windows 10 OEM license is free for use on devices with as small screen as this.
When I played some games on my GPD Win, I had the problem that the games were sometimes too slow. Sometimes, I restarted them and they became fast, again. Or they were already fast and they became slower. They sometimes even changed their speed mid-game. Can any of you explain this? I have the feeling that this has nothing to do with the GPD company, though.
I wanna get this, Should I get the Linux version or the Windows version (if I get Linux Im gonna download Windows 10 on it) but if I get Windows im gonna have to pay more
Hey, Nihongo! Great video! I would like to ask you for one favor. Can you play a small bit of Team Fortress 2 on this device in your full review? If not, I understand. Have a good day Nihongo! BTW You are my favorite TH-camr. You share all of the same exact interests that I have. Keep up the Amazing work, Buddy! ;) Edit: Team Fortress 2 is a bit of an older game (cough, cough 10 years old, cough) so it should run, but I'd just like to be sure. Thanks, Man!
This is one of the well-executed Kickstarter projects out there but at $600 you could get something that's more useful. Then again, if you got the money, make it rain.
It just makes me sad as Intel seemingly abandoned the Atom line, Atom X7 is surprisingly capable for a super low 2W power consumption, but the line hasn't been updated for 2 years already........ can't imagine how happy I would be if a new generation of Atom with 50% more graphics performance comes out...
I have a GPD Pocket 2. Now I just need an arcade stick. Also the PC manufacturers don't pay retail pricing for the copies of Windows they load onto their systems.
Fascinated by this one, I don't need it but I want it. If they do a second rendition with a smarter keyboard layout i'd likely pick one up. If typing is awkward I couldn't justify it over a tablet.
I use a tablet with a keyboard combo. An old "Asus Transformer" or whatever. I use it more than my desktop or my phone. Don't discount the comfort of a real keyboard; it just feels better.
I think this would work great with FTL, it's a touchscreen friendly game, it's really easy to run and it's a fun game. Would be interested to see some light 3d games on it like half life or something just to see how far you can push it.
the price for that is nut 400 dollars for a screen that size you could get a Chromebook and install windows on it with a normal sized keyboard and screen for a cheaper price
Seems a very nice product, not sure the keyboard is that much worse than current offerings on laptops... for $200 or just over (excluding the Windows license, which surely raises the price) I would definitely take the plunge.
i think part of the issue is that deathsmiles PC is all over the place as a port. love the game to bits but it's PC version doesn't have the right slowdown as far as i know and CAVE haven't fixed it.
Because a 30 dollar tablet is crap. And if it runs windows, it's gonna be even worse. And this thing is more portable and powerful. Good luck finding a decent windows tablet for 30 bucks.
Better screen, more storage? Better IO? Don't think so. And don't give me any of that "microSD exists" crap. Those things are not ment to used for frequent reads and writes. And the CPU is way better than in any 30 crap.
Chuwi Hi10 and its official keyboard was my choice especially due to the dual OS, but this could make a cracking HTPC and pocket/handbag PC for the price.
I'm interested how it plays Android games in RemixOS, or Linux games. (obviously, on Linux) Looks like it could be really good for things like The Room, Telltale games and such. Could even be pretty neat for Dwarf Fortress or Widelands on the bus. XD
Sounds like a perfect VN player on the go, if the screen has the resolution for it. Would definitely get one if I had money EDIT: friggin' full HD screen, I NEED one now! I love tiny stuff like that, specially when it packs the power
They should make a version with Merlin Falcon APU from AMD (10-15w TDP), 4 full Steamroller cores + 512SP gpu. It handle Skyrim well and SC2 at near max settings.
Better stick with my linux/windows 10 on a vm and stream it to my phablet smartphone,it's way more cheaper,if you allready have the pc and the 300$ smartphone,otherwise is way more expensive.
Then you lose part of the portability. Sure, it would be portable in your house, on your network, but outside you would no longer have game access. This is meant for business and gaming use on the go basically.
buy a proper laptop, do everything, JosephKing75 CBP only suggests that if someone does not want to spend. If you want to spend to game, don't spend on this.
It's like if a 3DS and a computer had a baby.
no its if the Macbook pro and Surface Pro had a baby and a 3DS changed the DNA strand that defined its size to a small one
Yea, it's more like Macbook's child, 3DS's child would be GPD Win
That’s where the stylus goes.
It's like a mini MacBook, but with ports
Sho more ports than the macbook, even smaller and cheaper
nice stolen joke
Sho Wait, so is it good for gaming?
oldtech81
The only people who think PC is "better" at everything are either broke teenagers who've never actually owned a Mac, or a gamer with no familiarity beyond specialized desktops and clunkier "gaming" laptops. (Or just kids trying to look cool, but they tend to fall under one or both of the prior categories.)
Ignoring the ultra-portable categories like ultrabooks: PC's are cheaper and generally have better performance/software flexibility, but at the expense of hit-or-miss build-quality. Whereas Macs are ridiculously reliable and have amazing build-quality, but with a weakness of not actually excelling at anything else.
When it comes to ultrabooks, you get the same pros and cons listed above, but with the added bonus of the PCs costing the same price as the Mac lineup.
(Speaking from experience with both.)
I actually kinda like it. Maybe I should consider buying it.
Can you play performance intensive visual novels on it though? That's the question.
コイノ/ Koino Intensive in what sense if i may ask? Generally visual novels have low system requirements to run due to the nature of graphics in visual novels. Most modern hardware (even low-end ones) should handle it no problem.
@Isyraq Zamri
well I remember trying to play *VA-11 HALL-A* on my old laptop and it would frequently stutter during the cutcenes. So I meant it in that sort of way (maybe bad optimization was the fault?).
コイノ/ Koino should be no problem i guess. I mean, it could run Death Smile in the video, an intensive shoot-em-up. As long as it is not too graphically demanding, integrated graphics should handle most lightweight titles and even older games with no issues.
I own this, and can play Skyrim on low settings.
Visual Novels? Cake. :P
@Isyraq Zamri
@Vyvaeth
Oh, nice thanks for answers! You see I am technologically inept when it comes to computers and their hardware. 😆
Now you can be those leet hacker technology geek anime characters :P
You mean gay?
Try Skullgirls I think you'd like it
I have Skullgirls on the GPD win, and it actually doesn't run at a full 60fps, and this device has the same specs except for more ram. I'm not sure I would recommend this for that game unless you don't mind frameskipping.
ZippetySticks what about emulators?
The win handles emulators extremely well. I'm not sure that it runs PS2 emulators but I mostly use ePSXe.
Looks fine and plays well in my opinion, I don't know what you don't like about it.
ZippetySticks That's weird, I have skullgirls installed on a portable ssd & it runs just fine on my gpd win (60 fps).
Hey, specs aren't bad at all, I can really see this for programming and designing on the go even more than gaming.
Programming with that tiny and mushy keyboard? No thanks. It's portable for sure, but I wouldn't get this for any type of work ever. But that's just me.
IDK how far you think you will get with an Intel Atom, but it probably won't be as far as you think...I highly doubt that this would be fast enough or ergonomical enough to use regularly.
lmao my netbook with atom runs visual studio and eclipse without problems...
bufubello diamara So your netbook can handle text? Wow, that's pretty impressive!
In the meanwhile my 13 inch Macbook Pro (2016) struggled to run Visual Studio until I turned source analysis off. Good job Apple... And good job MS for optimizing VS for Mac.
I'm thinking more of using it as the ultimate Small Form Factor computer. Plug your own monitor, keyboard and mouse to it and use it like a regular desktop. And It's so small you can just hide it behind the monitor
I really liked the angles you showed the device. I've seen this device before and I was unaware there was a heat vent thing near the screen.
Plus the close ups really made the device show off just how much it looks like a mini mac. wow. 10/10
Jose Mendoza It's $500... Def not 10/10
If you wanna play games on the go I would just buy a Nintendo Switch
Great choice if you want those few Nintendo games otherwise its not really giving you access to a decent library of games. Something Windows based lets you run everything with some amazing emulators out there now. You can even start improving those older game with stuff like Retroarch to get high res widescreen super smoothed versions of classic games throughout gaming history.
Or Nintendo Switch. I'm not knocking it for being a strangely underpowered tablet because Nintendo didn't really have the faith in the Switch. Its huge success has changed its fate. I believe its even getting updated hardware during its current version run and a stupidly impressive version is coming as soon as Nintendo and Nvidia can put it all together. So next year maybe? Until then, you want something Windows based for maximum emulation. You can emulate under android but its a bit limited.
lol the switch is more powerful than this thing and it's more expensive you idiots
hah.. just saw this video and Im ALREADY drinking my morning coffee... usually once i start your video i have to stop it and go make some delicious coffee... but this time im prepared. xD
Have you tried working dolphin on it?
Don't mention dolphins around him please. He might get hungry....
Julen Urionabarrenechea wow, that's really fucking racist
Maybe you can check out GPD Win instead, same hardware, there are quite a few videos online about GPD Win and Dolphin.
Julen Urionabarrenechea lol
Julen Urionabarrenechea
Perfect comment! :)
When you figure out that nihongo mean japanese in japanese 😮
Isaac Flores Lol that was me 2 years ago when I found this channel. xD
mind = blown
What does it mean?
Nick Fernandez- japanese
OOOOOHHHHHHH ....
Now I get it!!! *im blond*
Hey that looks amazing! Let's us know more on it.
I may actually consider getting this. Question! Will games like SFV or other fighters play on this impressive little device?
ZephyrosMX | Gamer | Procrastinator I highly doubt it. This is not a powerful device at all. Look up Linus tech tips video on it for a more indepth review.
Great looking Netbook! Wish that it would come with Swedish/Finnish keyboard 😄
But it has ports tho
I've been using mine for light office work on the go. The speaker is actually the one near the screen. The vent in the side is for the fan.
what's the name of the joystick you're using?
nice! How'd they send it to you, btw? Did you request it or were you chosen?
So it's still not possible to type at full speed on this, then I think GPD Win still makes more sense, although I can only type with my thumbs, but definitely at a much higher speed than touch screen keyboard. And using the integrated gaming thumb stick to control mouse is quite usable too, I can use it everywhere I go without needing a table.
Windows licences for small touch screen devices are 'free' and they introduced that to match the other 'free' OS' on the market in iOS and Android.
The con is that they really aren't free but you can grab windows 10 and install it on a compatible device with a small touch screen.
It is definitely a switching adapter, but that does not mean what you think it means. A switching adapter refers to how it changes the voltage, not that it can charge at different voltages.
Windows 10 OEM license is free for use on devices with as small screen as this.
Netbooks just diversified into three form factors and never died:
small laptop,
2 in 1,
tablet
and later on
phone
(full windows btw)
Does it hyperspin?
I have a similar style of gaming desk I'm going to build with arcade buttons.
This would be perfect.. Provided it does hyperspin..
That's a nice little computer! Good video, I've had fun watching your channel!
(BTW, you kinda look like ZUN :P)
When I played some games on my GPD Win, I had the problem that the games were sometimes too slow. Sometimes, I restarted them and they became fast, again. Or they were already fast and they became slower. They sometimes even changed their speed mid-game. Can any of you explain this? I have the feeling that this has nothing to do with the GPD company, though.
Can you connect your drawing tablet to this netbook?
Niho i got a question where do i buy cheap arcade sticks online that is safe on deliver without problems on my bought stuff ?
What arcade controller were you using???
The REAL question is if you can run a drawing graphics tablet on it?
if you mean one with screen then idk but just an pen tablet that will work fine. SO YOU CAN PLAU OSU HHEHHEHEEE
Nvidia msi Z97 Dude, anything can run dual monitors these days, it will surely allow a drawing tablet.
2SadlyFanatic if it has hdmi it can yes :3
"Everyone wants to know how long it is."
"Most important part of the package."
Oh, the innuendos...
Hah. I love GPD products! They're so adorable.
Chdonga yep. Can't decide on waiting for the GPD WIN 2, getting the original, or this pocket
It's already featured on Linus Tech some time ago and it's quite powerful spec
for pocket laptop.
linus would shout "THERE'S A FAN, SERIOUSLY?"
Wonder what would happen if a amd a12 was jammed in there ?????????????????????
GPD also makes a neat looking handheld pc. Think it's called the GPD win and it looks almost like a 3ds xl 🤓
Is this the same Atom CPU that's in the GPD Win?
can it run some modern 3d game? like Street Fighters V or Minecraft on steam?
I wanna get this, Should I get the Linux version or the Windows version (if I get Linux Im gonna download Windows 10 on it) but if I get Windows im gonna have to pay more
Memes. Dank get the win for gaming tbh
I adore your videos!!!
how big is it compared to the new 2DS?
Steam has an in-built FPS counter that you can enable in settings, of which you may find useful for testing.
Hey, Nihongo! Great video! I would like to ask you for one favor. Can you play a small bit of Team Fortress 2 on this device in your full review? If not, I understand. Have a good day Nihongo!
BTW You are my favorite TH-camr. You share all of the same exact interests that I have. Keep up the Amazing work, Buddy! ;)
Edit: Team Fortress 2 is a bit of an older game (cough, cough 10 years old, cough) so it should run, but I'd just like to be sure. Thanks, Man!
About the TF2: no, it will not work on this device as the performance of the game sucks after updates on top of updates
Sebastian Radlak
Oh, ok. Thank you for letting me know.
This is one of the well-executed Kickstarter projects out there but at $600 you could get something that's more useful. Then again, if you got the money, make it rain.
when did Nintendo release this version of the 3ds
i love laptops of any size. almost got a raspberry pi 3, this netbook looks funner
You can put windows10 into tablet mode to get easier access to menus with your fingers
Man, if it was a convertible netbook/tablet that could bring also the touchscreen on top of the keyboard, I'd be in.
I liked Death Smiles but my only complaint about is that it doesn't scale well on a 16:9 monitor
I will definitely be waiting for that full review.
Can you share those wallpapers?
It just makes me sad as Intel seemingly abandoned the Atom line, Atom X7 is surprisingly capable for a super low 2W power consumption, but the line hasn't been updated for 2 years already........ can't imagine how happy I would be if a new generation of Atom with 50% more graphics performance comes out...
I'd love to have this with me on the go in addition to my Switch, instead of a bulky laptop.
$500 is a lot, but it looks so cool to have...
Can fighting games like mugen 1.1, BlazBlue, or skullgirls run in it though
Ultimate comparison between the new2DsXL VS New3Ds (normal)
If this had thunderbolt 3, and someone made a special thunderbolt 3 cage for tiny gpus, you could have a really good portable computer.
Link for arcade pad, please?
HP still makes the HP Stream 11 that is basically a netbook yet they don't call it that so the netbooks never really left.
Can it play company of heroes?
What was the game you were playing?
+Josh McIntosh
"Deathsmiles" by Cave
What game was that in the intro?
Sadly you can't flip the screen all the way to the back
I find small devices with full USB ports so nifty. I was my Windows tablet had a full USB instead of micro.
I seem to remember that device with small screen don't need to pay for license.
Your really awesome and your voice is to keep making more videos I really enjoy them :)
The Surface 3 is my favorite netbook.
I have a GPD Pocket 2. Now I just need an arcade stick. Also the PC manufacturers don't pay retail pricing for the copies of Windows they load onto their systems.
Windows is free to OEM if screen is sub 9 inch
If you just want to play games isn't the GPD win under $350 and has a controller built into it?
I think my fingers are gonna be too lanky for this, but it looks like a nice little system.
Can this run SFV and Tekken 7 though.
They sent this to him for free, AND on top of that... They are PAYING HIM FOR IT! 4:15AM 7 ** 8/1/2017
I really want a GPD win. You should review that or the second one if possible
But can it run crysis?
My favorite Netbook is the Sony Vaio PCG-N505VE :D
Fascinated by this one, I don't need it but I want it.
If they do a second rendition with a smarter keyboard layout i'd likely pick one up. If typing is awkward I couldn't justify it over a tablet.
Wao. I bought a 15" note, just to play games, but I don't like how it occupies my desk. It is so big.
GPD why not Android OS?
I use a tablet with a keyboard combo. An old "Asus Transformer" or whatever. I use it more than my desktop or my phone.
Don't discount the comfort of a real keyboard; it just feels better.
But can you hackintosh it?
I think this would work great with FTL, it's a touchscreen friendly game, it's really easy to run and it's a fun game. Would be interested to see some light 3d games on it like half life or something just to see how far you can push it.
the price for that is nut 400 dollars for a screen that size you could get a Chromebook and install windows on it with a normal sized keyboard and screen for a cheaper price
But will it run Crysis?
Would be nice to have a SIM card slot
Seems a very nice product, not sure the keyboard is that much worse than current offerings on laptops... for $200 or just over (excluding the Windows license, which surely raises the price) I would definitely take the plunge.
Have you tried GPD Win?
You should try streaming Steam games from your gaming laptop to the GPD Pocket.
Looking forward to the test, will you try the witcher 3?? Just for fun.. :D
Also try 1 and 2 :)
i think part of the issue is that deathsmiles PC is all over the place as a port. love the game to bits but it's PC version doesn't have the right slowdown as far as i know and CAVE haven't fixed it.
So, how is this better than a $30 tablet and $10 usb keyboard case?
Because a 30 dollar tablet is crap. And if it runs windows, it's gonna be even worse. And this thing is more portable and powerful. Good luck finding a decent windows tablet for 30 bucks.
It has more ram but with such a weak CPU, who cares?
Better screen, more storage? Better IO? Don't think so. And don't give me any of that "microSD exists" crap. Those things are not ment to used for frequent reads and writes. And the CPU is way better than in any 30 crap.
Is that a ds
actually its form factor classify it as UMPC
Drop test?
I think this thing will be closer to handheld computers,not to netbooks.
Chuwi Hi10 and its official keyboard was my choice especially due to the dual OS, but this could make a cracking HTPC and pocket/handbag PC for the price.
did austin do a review on this
I'm interested how it plays Android games in RemixOS, or Linux games. (obviously, on Linux)
Looks like it could be really good for things like The Room, Telltale games and such. Could even be pretty neat for Dwarf Fortress or Widelands on the bus. XD
The windows is free based on the OST licence from Microsoft.
were they ever alive?
Sounds like a perfect VN player on the go, if the screen has the resolution for it.
Would definitely get one if I had money
EDIT: friggin' full HD screen, I NEED one now! I love tiny stuff like that, specially when it packs the power
They should make a version with Merlin Falcon APU from AMD (10-15w TDP), 4 full Steamroller cores + 512SP gpu. It handle Skyrim well and SC2 at near max settings.
so for 500 dollars, I'm getting a 7 inch laptop. Intel atom cpu.. No thanks I can get a better laptop that performs tenfold of what this can do.
Better stick with my linux/windows 10 on a vm and stream it to my phablet smartphone,it's way more cheaper,if you allready have the pc and the 300$ smartphone,otherwise is way more expensive.
Tk_Till_Dead it's because it's so small
Then you lose part of the portability. Sure, it would be portable in your house, on your network, but outside you would no longer have game access. This is meant for business and gaming use on the go basically.
buy a proper laptop, do everything, JosephKing75 CBP only suggests that if someone does not want to spend. If you want to spend to game, don't spend on this.
lmao in my country you can buy a transformer t100 for 100€ and is a 13 inch i think