Wow, hard to believe yet another stupid comment from Mr. Zancone. Your coveted position as king of the village idiots is retained. Stop annoying millions of normal people for the applause of a few of your fellow social rejects.
My Mom had purchased a 1985 RX-7 new from the dealer. 1.2L 12A engine 5-speed. Red exterior, grey interior. She couldn't even drive manual at the time, so her friend drove it home for her, and I was in the trunk area. The car got passed down to me in high school, and I just sold it a few years ago. So many great memories in that car. Think I fit 5 in there one time to head to the local pool! I would just take it out for drives in the summer evenings listening to the cassette tapes, just to drive. Miss those days.
The button to pop up headlight is for cold winter area where the headlight could freeze shut during the night. You would let them popped up overnight so you could still use your headlight the next morning
In 1984 you were still using R12, so the AC could be efficient (small. low weight.) Just because your wheels are big doesn't mean they look good. The TR-7 was hella famous for it.
Excellent video 📹 Amazing Japanese sports car 🏎. We didn't know at the time, Mazda RX7, Nissan ZX, Toyota Celica Supra, Mitsubishi Starion and Subaru? were best sports cars in the world 🌎. Western motoring journalist would deliberately trash them. Thank God for Internet and Social media 😮
I LOVE when Doug does an overview of older cars like this. I grew up when cars like this were new and it takes me back. Never stop doing reviews of older cars Doug they're great!
I agree. While I enjoy Doug's reviews of current cars, the old and odd ones are the most fun, I think. When I was in high school in the mid-80s I had a friend who had an FB RX-7. (She was a waitress at the restaurant I worked at after school; these were *accessible* cars, not just toys for the wealthy.) It's a lovely car. Yes, the engine is going to want a lot of maintenance; and I couldn't keep one of these myself these days, as it would be constantly bottoming out on the gravel road to my house. But they're pretty and fun. As attractive as the FD is, the FB is still my favorite. And that power/weight ratio was very respectable at the time.
he’s stating he won’t do anything before the 80s. He says the views aren’t there. Which I think he should do them anyway because he’s making a ton of money now through Cars & Bids.
I don't like when he does reviews of older cars. He's a good car salesman. However, I don't think he can remove his mind from the present. He always compares the old to the new. He's also clearly not mechanically inclined. I find it difficult to listen to people talk about cars when they don't know anything about the mechanics of the car. Manual steering for example. Sure it's difficult to steer at low speeds but it's never going to leak power steering fluid and may never need to be replaced, ever. Someone who has never had to fix their own leaking steering box cannot fathom that.
I had a car with pop up headlights. One of the main reasons they had that pop up headlight button (without turning the lights on) is that when you got a really heavy snow or a thick layer of ice, those pop up headlights (sometimes) wouldn't pop up if they were covered with thick ice or a layer of heavy snow. So, if you knew it was going to snow all day while your car was parked outside of the office, you'd pop up the headlights so you'd have headlights on for your drive home on a dark, cold snowy night.
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exactly, people who are into audio do actually know how to use a graphic equaliser, and can hear by ear which frequency bands need cutting and by how much
Doug's continued ignorance on graphic equalizers is hilarious. He was roasted years ago for not knowing what it was when he saw one the first time. Now he acts like it's totally useless. But man, I WISH I had a graphic eq in my cars. They are awesome!
IMPORTANT NOTE: The GSL-SE was upgraded with a 1.3L rotary with fuel injection and 135 hp and 4-wheel discs. The pre-84 cars had a 1.1L with a carburetor and 100 hp and rear drum brakes, and that engine continued in lesser models in 84-85. I bought the first GSL-SE sold in San Diego in this same Sparkling black, but with a more tasteful (all) grey cloth interior. Mazda introduced the RX-7 with the 1.1L engine, but at that time they offered the 1.3 (13B) in the RX-4, so I knew it would end up in the RX-7 some day. I waited patiently, then got the first SE. I won a local autocross championship with it and kept it for 3 enjoyable years. With a limited slip diff, it did great drifts. At 6’1”, I fit fine even with a helmet. Thank you Doug for this wonderful memory!
I originally thought Mazda only produced the SE (GSL-SE) model in 1985, but I guess they did so in late '84 as well. (Besides being fuel injected, the SE also came with these 14' wheels vs 13".) I drove a White '85 GSL, fully loaded, with 4 disc brakes, but with Grey cloth interior, (in San Diego as well). I agree, the cloth interior was stellar, and in hindsight, ages ALOT better than all the leather examples I see on Bring A Trailer. My biggest question for @dougdemuro is, how the HELL did you successfully smog that thing for use in California?!! (That's my biggest obstacle to owning this again.)
It’s been a LONG time, but I think the ‘84 GSL-SE models hit dealerships in the 4th Quarter of ‘83, since I had mine to run in the full 1984 Autocross season. The first 3 arrived on the same day, and I was on the waiting list at all 3 dealers. A white one, a beige one, and I bought the Sparkling Black one. You’re right that prior RX-7s had 13” wheels; these got 14” which allowed for larger brakes.
THISSSS..... is a Monday upload, and it is quite a pleasant surprise from Doug. He has long maintained a consistent Tuesday-Thursday-Sunday schedule, but today appears to be a special exception. And indeed, we are here for it.
Hey Doug, I think you missed a pretty important detail when discussing trim levels: every trim up to and including the GSL came with the carbureted 1.2L 12a motor. The GSL-SE was the only trim that got the fuel injected 1.3L 13b motor that is so loved by rotary fans, and was only available for the final years of its life, 1984-85, if my memory serves right. I owned an '84 GSL myself as my first project car. Never got it running properly but it was sure nice to look at! 😅
Must have been the engine my 85 had. My buddy had an 84 that was a lot slower! I remember mine being pretty competitive at the stoplight for it's time!
Thank you @duckraisin! I was surprised to see Doug miss that! I had a GSL-SE with the 13b and enjoyed pulling away from my buddies with lowly 12a motors. I replaced the RX7 with a GTI Mk2 16v. Oh how I miss them....
This was the one for me. The car I wanted in high school couldn't afford, no matter how many shifts I worked at the movie theater. The RX-7 is still gorgeous all these years later.
Among all the other reasons I can't stand dug This is another one Ĥe thinks because he doesn't know something no one else does And when he's looking at older cars his so called quirks and features are just the way things used to be I don't know how anyone can stand to listen to him for more than 5 seconds
In 1996, I was 19 and my girlfriend had an 86 RX-7. We took it on a camping trip to the Canadian rockies. Sure, the car was already old at that time, you couldn't leave town without having a spare jug of motor oil. But it still ran well, looked cool, was a conversation piece. I got to drive it on some narrow, winding mountain roads and I still remember that as a very fun experience.
So much nostalgia in this review for me. I had a white exterior, black interior 85 RX7 GS in 1996 when I was in high school. It was way too much fun to drive. I got a great deal on it after a full rotary rebuild and sold it after a year of driving. It was the worst winter car I have ever owned. A lightweight, high revving, rear wheel drive, manual, with low ground clearance, and no power steering is a recipe for disaster. I bought an 85 Isuzu Trooper II for winter driving. I'd love to see Doug review one of those.
omg, speaking from experience the first-gen RX-7 was awful in the snow. I had all-season tires on it and ended up in someone's front yard after just an inch or two.
k, ima say it...... The sound in this car (at the time) was incredible as the speakers were all right behind and beside you. My brother had a 1985 version . Those equalizer controls were sooo cool at the time. You could adjust the midrange and the high notes, and of course, the bass. I try to use the one integrated on my phone and it is NOTHING compared to the system in the RX-7. What song were we listening to you ask? Def Leapord: Love Bites. Perfection!
Millennials have only ever heard music with brickwall production and low bit rate mp3's. Doug is simply clueless about certain aspects of tech. I do look forward to the day his kids tell him that an EV sounds as good as his Carrera GT.
Agreed- I had an '84 GSL-SE, and that stereo was really good among factory systems of the time. That being said, I upgraded all four original speakers, added door tweeters, and built a subwoofer in the storage compartment behind the driver's seat. It was amazing!!
@@gregmakulec3092my 82’ GSL had the Clarion stereo with the separate tape deck…no EQ…I was so mad when the GSL-SE came out with the fuel injected 13B and that incredible stereo! I had upgraded my speakers and ran a second set of rear speakers at the far back hidden behind the carpet where you filled the rear washer “bag”…I ended up getting some great sound. I’ve had an 85’ GSL-SE for some time now and I changed out the stereo and speakers…added the rear speakers like I originally did, and then a subwoofer in the storage box behind the driver seat…built a box to mount flush after removing the compartment door and added two amps, awesome sound now.
My sister owned an RX-7, which looked a lot like this one with the red interior but I think with a charcoal gray exterior. It was an amazing car. I love the looks. This video brings back a lot of memories. It turns out I liked the car much better than I did my sister. Rotary engines seem like they should be more efficient because the motion of the rotors continues in one direction, unlike pistons which are constantly reversing direction. However, I think that rotary engines don't get as good of compression or fuel combustion as conventional engines do.
It doesn't have good FC not because of a lack of compression or inefficient combustions. Compared to 4 or 6 bangers in that era, all engines are not very efficient. The reason is has very poor FC is simply the number of cumbustions strokes per revolution of a crank. In an Otto cycle engine, every 2 turns of the crank corresponds to 1 combustion cycle. In a rotary engine a combustion cycle occurs every 1/3 rotation of the crank. So essentially, for every turn of the crank, you get 1 bang. Coupled with leaking apex seals. FC is always going to be terrible. But it's got great power to weight ratio.
It's been mentioned above, but the critical difference with the SE was the 13B fuel-injected rotary. ALL other trim levels featured the carbureted 12A (still with a manual choke!). It's also the only trim level to feature the 14" wheels. Others were 13s only. A 1984 GSL-SE was my first new car, and it spoiled me forever. Wish I still had it! ❤️❤️❤️
The other purpose to pop the head lights up without turning them on is if you were to park outside in cold weather, is to prevent them from freezing shut and damaging the headlights or the motors if you tied opening them.
No. On my 323F / Astina they never froze in place. The motors on Mazda model are usually the same as the wiper which turns two wipers plus two long levers. No ice could damage them. 😂 A bulb change requires opening them.
ive had my family's fb for a couple years now after it was abandoned for 2 decades, been my daily for 3 years. constantly doing clutch dumps, taking it 1k over redline, pulls at every stoplight, delivering packages etc and that 12a rotary just took it all no problem. these cars are gems, glad to finally see doug cover this one.
I had almost this exact car. Same exterior color, with the same red pin stripe. Mine had a black interior and both the glass roof and a metal roof you could choose between. My step-dad ordered it from the dealership with all the options and drove it for around 10 years before I got it from him. So much fun to drive. So easy to break the tires loose around corners. It always felt like you were right on the edge, even though you were never really going that fast.
@@knupaw that's what I was thinking. Doug mentioned how 80's it was, but I dont think so at all. Compared to almost any other interior from '84, including German vehicles, this interior has held up incredibly well
My first car... had a base model 85 GS. I am 6' 2" and I fit very well! Terrible heat shielding means the red hot exhaust heated the cabin nicely in the winter, but ROASTED me in the summer. No AC, no power steering, manual windows, what a blast that thing was. Miss it daily.
It was my first car too back in 2000. I had a GSL, so I had a/c and power windows. I’ve owned multiple of all three generations and still miss that 12a first gen the most. It wasn’t fast, but it had full racing exhaust so it sounded like it was, and at 16 that was probably a good thing. I loved the semi manual choke. It never once stranded me either.
My dad had an original RX7. My mom would drive us to school in it. However, it only had two seats so I rode in the trunk. Those were different times for sure. My dad had to sell it after owning it for less than a year because he got so many speeding tickets in it.
"Really, you don't." The audio bit. Sorry Doug but as someone who went to audio engineering school I damn well do. Now is that head unit good enough with its pre amp, amp and speakers to really make it good... LOVE these cars, so damn fun to drive. Thanks for sharing Doug!
He is utterly clueless about graphic equalizers. I get the impression he has never even tried to figure it out, especially the way he moves the sliders, and talks about it like it's some kind of random code you need to set for each song. It doesn't take an audio engineer to move a slider and observe the results.
So the sliders on the radio are for the EQ. EQs definitely make a difference to the sound, but they’re pretty much all digital these days. Most of them only let you control 3 bands: bass, mid, and treble. So it’s impressive that this Mazda included a 9 band EQ actually. Along with the physical joystick to direct sound and the tape deck, this car’s audio is a fun blast from the past
One of the most 80's Cars out there, my Dad used to own one of these into the mid 1990s and i loved riding Shotgun in it! Also Doug already uploading on a Monday? I hope that means we get one more Car Review than usual this Week! Prost & Cheers from the Bavarian Alps
Actually it really was quick more than fast. Not particularly powerful, but faster that any muscle car of the prior decade stock in short bursts. It was a throwback to 50s porches with less horsepower that were light with hi rev gearing.
The second car I ever owned (in 1990) was a '79 RX7. It was a bucket of bolts by the time I got to it but still, a dozen or so cars later, it is my all time favorite car I have owned. Loved not having power steering...it was like the road was talking to you through the wheel. And SO low to the ground. What a driver's car. (And totally unreliable!) Thanks for bringing me down memory lane, Doug.
There used to be a manual choke on the RX-7 where the circular cutout is on the left side of the steering wheel. To start the RX-7, you'd have to pull the choke all the way out then turn the key to get the fuel mixture right. It was the quirkiest of quirky features.
Once upon a time I had 3 of these (FB) at the same time. All earlier carb 100hp models. Felt faster than they actually were. Would probably feel painfully slow today. The steering was not great at low speed (and not even rack and pinion) but I do miss manual steering. The rear axle hopped around a bit on bumpy corners which the FC with IRS did not. Gearbox was great. I put an RX-7 box in the B2000 pickup I also had at the time and it was such an improvement to that truck (which had the worlds worst gearing). At 5'10" I barely fit with a helmet on in a sunroof equipped car, no problem with a solid roof. The pop-up headlight feature was handy for autocross so I could better gauge where the front corners of the car were. I got rid of those eventually and got an FC, with which I won a few local autocross championships. I currently have a Subie BRZ 2022 which is light years ahead of all of them. Since I am not nostalgic I would never go back. If you absolutely have to have one of these 1st gen cars though, the 84-85' GSL-SE model shown here is the only one worth bothering about. The larger fuel injected engine and bigger brakes just much better, even if the car is a bit chunkier. Can't get decent tires in the original size anymore though, which sucks.
The wheels are one of the best things about it. The first and second generation RX-7s actually had real tires that allowed it to be driven on actual streets with bumps and potholes. I used to have a 1976 Carmaro, a MUCH larger car than the RX-7, and it had 14" wheels. That allowed for tires that actually had sidewalls, and looked and worked great.
I used to drive around in one of these. Man, it was so fun to drive, much like the Miata. These were a lot of fun. Then I drove the 1993 twin turbo and it was a whole new level. The high revs were so nice, as mentioned by Doug. He is right on point. I know Doug is an expert.
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My buddy in high school had a 83, this was 94-95ish. We decided to drive it ftom Phoenix to a airshow in Yuma. It broke down three times, last time the AC compressor froze up, so me being the car nerd decided to just cut the belt off, which worked. He never fixed it and just drove it like that till he totalled it.
Such a beautiful car, I love rotaries they last a long time if you drive it like its meant to be driven. The apex seals go bad because people baby it with low rpms like a normal car and build up carbon, if you rev it high every time you continue blowing out the carbon. 14:18 another problem EV enthusiasts refuse to understand and not just the steering but every single mechanical component that connects you to the car they replace with wires ruins the car and strips the driving experience to that of a $5 toy hot wheels car. Zero interest in electric cars.
Cool video! I learned to drive a manual transmission in a red 1984 RX-7 GSL in the way early 2000s. Fun fact, all trims except the GSL-SE had the 12A carbureted engine. The GSL-SE got the 13B fuel injected engine. It would have been my first car if the rusted brake lines didn’t fail sending me into a tree.
I learned on mine right after the exchange of insurance, and had to get home. Went from 1st to 4th and kept stalling at each light until I got home and had my gf at that time show me how to shift. I learned to rev up a bit before going in gear and letting out the clutch more gental. Didn't take long and I was doing good down shifts and letting her rip out.
My first car was an 84 RX-7. I didn't keep it long partly because it was carbureted and I had no idea what to do with a carb to keep it running smoothly but mostly because it was one of the few that came with the automatic. That car was a pretty solid lesson in what an awful match a little rev-happy rotary is with a 3 speed slushbox.
I had a 79 & 85,and with a few mods, you could get some good performance.I mean feeling the rear tires twisting going from 1st to 2nd,and a tiny bit going into 3rd. And they were great in the twisty bits, literally you felt like you were on rails,they were super fun little cars.
My Grandma's neighbor had a FB parked on the side of their driveway for YEARS. Mainly because it did not run. I'd always stop and look at it when I'd go over to their house. Unfortunately, they sold it about a year ago. But it's nice to see this one in such nice shape.
4 out of last 5 videos are for crap for sale on his website. He literally doesn't review new cars anymore. It's pretty funny that people are willing to watch 30 min ads dressed up as "reviews".
I've always liked the Series 1 RX 7, and it looks especially good in this spec. I've never seen one of these in black before, and with that red leather interior too it looks fantastic. A friend of mines Mum had one of these back in the late eighties. A 1982 model in red, and it had the Elford turbo conversion, which pretty much doubled the horsepower. It was a properly quick car for its day
While it’s overkill for a car speaker a most likely economy class cheap one at that, there are definitely people out there who can tell the difference between small adjustments made especially audiophiles, but in this situation it certainly is silly.
6:00 Doug...an equalizer is not overkill, it's very simple to use to maximize the sound you want. Right side is treble, left side is bass and the middle is voice. Equalizers are still used today in apps for headphones, amps, etc.
I think he’s trying to say that during that time car speakers together with the radios we’re not going to be spitting out sound high quality enough for you to truly hear a difference by messing with the equalizer.
@@MrCashMoneyD18, the 80's was the beginning of hifi audio. I'm 60 and the audio was incredible back then. Today is of course better but so are most things.
Car stereos at that time were getting a lot better than they'd ever been before. The 1/8" cassette took a while to make 8-track obsolete, and the early 80s WAS that 'heyday' of mid to high(er)-fi on the move ...boom boxes, anyone? Graphic Equalizers could be either gimmick-y _and/or_ a modest advance. Every form of stereo that was trying to 'be with it' had them. Legitimately it's for helping the speakers get along better with the room they're in. _In a car, though, all it can do is help cheap speakers sound a bit livelier._
I just think Doug is not a big music listener, which is okay. He's so thorough about everything else but the car sound system never seems important to him
This was the car I drove in high school/early college. My interior was grey/black (so may have been one spec below this) and it was great. This along with my Suzuki RM125C was all my 19 year old self needed back then. Great memories. And BTW Doug, that switch to flip the headlights without turning them on, drivers of this car used it to "wave" to other RX7 owners as they passed on the road.
If you flipped the headlamp switch on and off repeatedly quickly they would go out of sync alternating back and forth with one go while the other was down.
Old car stereo eqs were awesome. Of course we knew Doug. What a silly comment. Say a tape had too much top end or lacking low end, we would compensate for the best sound. Maybe your ego got so big it's stuffed your hearing Doug.
My first new car was a 1980 Mazda RX-7. The rotary was of enormous interest, and a huge bonus was that the car came with everything; the only upgrade I remember being available was a tape deck. The earlier version like mine didn't have a lot of the "quirks and features" as found in this one - there was no beeping to insist on upshifting, for example. It was incredible good fun to drive, was great in the snow and even more impressive through fairly deep flooding - one late night on the way home a lot of cars were stranded and I just powered on through no problem. With over 100K on the speedometer, I sold it after four years for 70% of what I paid for it. A great memory!
I've always loved the FB RX-7. I still remember buying one in Forza Motorsport 6 as pretty much my first custom car in that game. I painted it black with diffusing blue stripes running along the bottom. I lowered it and slapped some Super Advan Racing V2 wheels on it, as well as adding a rear spoiler. ~9 year old me loved that car. The shape of the front-end, the wheels, the single-piece taillights, the pop-up headlights, the little slits on the bottom of the front bumper, I loved it all! Thanks for reviewing it!
I owned several GSL-SE's which I still miss, but the small handful of shops that actually worked on them stopped and certain parts became unobtainable or too costly. Either way, this was my favorite car that I ever owned.
My local Mazda dealer, when I owned one 8 years ago, still had an older tech that worked for them on their rotary hillclimb cars. So I could take it there if I desperately needed someone to work on it for me. Im sad I dont have that car any more :(
There was a shop in fort Worth Texas that repair these and I remember back in the day there was probably 20 non-running rx7s just sitting on the property. Nobody wanted them once they were deemed non-repairable for whatever reason.
@@danielknepper6884 Yeah, that reminds me of the shop that I used to take mine for repair called Rotary Perfomance. All they work on these days are the RX-8's. These were either too costly to replace the blown Apex seals or in many cases certain parts were unavailable. Very unfortunate since these cars were so fun to drive.
@@Cant_Frag Yeah, I feel you and also used to take mine to one Mazda dealer who worked on them as well, but the repair bills were always astronimical 😲🥴.
What happened to Mazda over the years? They came out of the gate with fire in their souls starting with he Cosmo in 1967 then RX7, RX8, Miata. No more Zoom Zoom? The Miata was a good car for its time but it should have morphed into something that could fit more normal sized people, not just someone who is 5'4! Where are their other sports cars?
Mazda has barely survived a couple of corporate disasters. They just don't have the money for low volume cars, which sports cars unfortunately are. The Miata is it, and likely will be for the foreseeable future. But it's not that cramped in a Miata. 6 feet tall can fit fine.
An 84 rx7 was my first car and owned it for 10 years. Loved how mechanical everything felt except the steering box. Only reason why i sold it was because i bought a 93 and didnt have space for it. Only issue i had was sourcing parts, really hard to come by any sort of parts in good shape. Very few aftermarket upgrades and very expensive that usually require some sort of fab work. Even suspension was hard to source, it was either OEM like replacement or sourcing from other cars like Fox body mustang and MR2. But if i had the space i would have 100% kept it.
I miss mine. I had this exact year and model in brown. He really hit the nail on the head. It’s fun and responsive even tho it’s not really fast. I didn’t know it was so light, it never felt that light to me bc you really have to drive it with the manual steering. I’m 5’9 so it wasn’t too small for me. You gotta watch the electricals on this vintage and it’s much harder to work on than the 78-82.
My second car was a 79 and my third car was an 85. Both the carbureted 5 speed versions. The 79 backfired like a mofo and had a more raw feeling. The 85 was far smoother and nicer inside. They never ran quite right but were reliable enough for my high school days. I was in the orchestra and jazz club and would drive my upright bass around town in them, along with an amp and still had room to spare. Super squirrelly on the road though, rear wheel drive with 13 inch tires could have gotten me in a loooot of trouble a few times but I got lucky. Fishtailing on highway 17 in front of a semi was probably my scariest moment. Also pulled a 180 in Los Altos hills which could have gone way worse. Fun.
I had a 1982 GSL and one thing that people around here did with the pop up headlights was whenever you saw another RX-7 coming towards you, you would pop the lights up and then back down to "wink" at them. Kind of like the Jeep wave now. Had more fun in that RX-7 than any other car I owned.
The GSL-SE is really the one to get, all the other FBs had 12A rotaries and were carburated. The GSL-SE came with a 6 port fuel injected 13B which was CONSIDERABLY faster than the 12a, came with a transmission with better ratios, and a ~4.10 rear diff.
Sorry Doug, Your are wrong on sunroof operation. Yes, the big screw puts sunroof into vent mode, but must press two locking levers to remove. Can be done in-vehicle in less than a minute if in full vent mode. Headlight up mode is for "flash to pass' This switch made it easy to pass vehicles in the left lane upon approach. The next gen RX-7 solved this with pass-through lenses to the down position headlamps. These days it is considered "un/in polite" to flash headlamps so new most good drivers use a use outside turn-signal to await slower traffic to get off their phone and stop impeding traffic. High trim spec RX-7's always had power windows, cruise, electric power mirrors, and even rear disk brakes! A/C do not know of RX-7 not having even on lower trim in N. America, but 80's were different. Think lift-over is tall on this model. Try the next one..... And I had an engine in the back! Yes, a small Mazda 13b, but it fit. Quirk of interest: Only the SE model of the GSL's came with a fuel injected engine. All other models had 12a's and a manual pull choke on the left side of the steering column. Rear wiper motor is bolted to glass and wiper arm makes it easier to open the rear hatch. Rear view mirrors as "small" but electrically controlled for both driver and passenger. They give great visibility! While not having power locks, you did have to hold "up" on the handle to lock the door when closing. This was to help prevent locking keys in the car. Washer fluid for the rear hatch was not provided from the front main tank. Just a little pouch in the rear to add fluid. Failure mode on the engine is typically external oil leaks. They run a long time, but if l leaking, can oil the clutch and make it useless. How do I know this? It happened to me. Dove to gas pump. Filled tank. Clutch now so oil saturated, could not leave the filling pump. Had to 'hitch a ride" to college as I got lucky and all students were traveling around the same time. No power steering: I completely forgot the Gen-1 RX-7 did not have it! Car was so light that even pushing it to start because your starter motor went out was easy. I was younger and stronger, but never noticed....lol. Not having P.S. was almost forgotten as car is so light. Many cars even in the 90's did not have p.s.: Ferrari, Lamborghini, Lotus, Porsche (911), McLaren, etc.....not until much later. Shape of this RX-7 is considered "cigar" or "torpedo" similar to Jaguar E-type. VERY far from a 928 (and l love them too) Still a timeless vehicle and I miss it in all forms, but mostly GSL and up for rear disk brakes and power amenities. SE is like like adding a turbo. previous owner of GSL & Turbo-II
Sorry, but Doug is a bit annoying and borderline obnoxious. But I do appreciate that he reviews older cars , just not sure he has all his facts. I owned this car and loved it. And the sound system was phenomenal! As well as the 50/50 weight distribution when throwing it into a curve! OH Boy!!
I advice anyone who haven't heard the legendary Mazda 787B idling and full-throttle sound, PLEASE GO DO SO ! It's literally the best sounding car ever, powered by Mazda's 4 rotor engine 💪💪🤯
Mazdas for the American market were equipped quite well. My family had a 1980 626 coupe. It had the same steering wheel and shifter. It was very sporty, so much the press called it the poor man's BMW. Our 626 had the RX-7 waffle wheels, so many cool cars of the 70's had waffle wheels.
This was my first car back in 2000 at 16. 83 GSL black with tan leather. Had full racing exhaust. It wasn’t fast, but it sounded like it. Loved it so much. I’ve owned all three generations and that first gen is the one I miss the most.
A few weeks ago I saw an 80s black RX7 rolling out of a parking lot with a white guy driving it that looked he barely fit in it. I said to my friend, “was that Doug DeMuro?” Well, this video just answered my question.
RE: Doug's puzzlement that everything in the interior is red- That's how most cars were from the 1960's thru well into the new millennium. Interiors were usually monotone. Whatever interior color you selected, pretty much every part of that interior would be said color. So if you ordered a red interior, everything was red. Blue interior, everything was blue, etc. Having everything color keyed was considered upscale. Only low end cars had things like black steering wheels, black seat belts or black floor coverings with other colored interiors. I will note this "red" (I would not call it red now, but "oxblood") did not age well and you can see that certain parts of the interior have color shifted wildly.
I bought an '82 back in '86 and absolutely loved it! Had an epic 360 degree spin out in really heavy rain on the freeway when some jackass cut me off - thumbs up from other drivers when I came to a stop facing the right direction to just keep going. Not sure it would have ended so well in a less balanced car, but also the light weight of it may have contributed...😅
I’m a fan of all RX7s but saying the FB is the most popular is subjective. I don’t see anyone paying $30k for any of them at the moment. Maybe in a few years. I actually have a funny yet heart breaking story involving one of these. Several years ago i worked with a guy who became the owner of one in trade. He complained it burned oil. One of his friends told him that rotorys were famous for not needing oil. Guess how that went.
All one color was common in the 70s and 80s. Base models of cars were all black inside meaning you couldn't afford to have a colored interior. I had an all red interior pinto, all light blue mercury monarch, and an all beige daihatsu. When I see a car with a black interior and black wheels, I think base model poor man's car. Now people pay extra for blackout trim. How times have changed.
The one thing you must do if you own a rotary motor is constantly check and fill the oil. They will burn oil, especially when driving hard. You need to stay on top of it, and really check it a couple times a week if you drive it alot or at least every time you fill the gas.
I had an '83 GSL - I really miss that car, it was so much fun! There is a circular blank on the dash to the left of the steering wheel, which is where my manual choke knob was. When the engine was cold, you'd pull the plunger like a pinball machine and when the engine warmed up the plunger would pop itself back in
A 9-band equalizer doesn't seem that insane...a basic understanding of highs mids and lows is all it takes and that's pretty simple...."No you don't" :)
Imo black is a bit of a weird choice for this particular RX-7, i would honestly go with Lime Green, or a Coffee Brown color, those two are my fav for it, & it makes it shines more, it's so beautiful
Actually... The EQ in the radio is a neat feature to have on the radio, and it isn't overkill by any means. Thats basically to finetune the audio in the car. Some people like more bass, some people like to pull up the mids, and then there are musicians/audio geeks that will finetune the audio to have it sound the best it can, tuning it to the interior of the car. Not wantingh to sound condescending, but those "stereo controls" are mostly for people that understand how sound works.
I love that Doug loves rotary cars but I wish he wouldn't talk about them. I want everyone to continue thinking they're shitty and unreliable so I can continue buying them at affordable prices.
I bought a brand new 1988 RX-7 10th anniversary edition back in the day and i really liked it at the time.... until it blew up three years later after dealer replaced the engine.
This thing is gonna bring $30k or more absolutely beautiful car. Good job as always Doug, I always wanted one of these this might just make me push that button.
He is utterly clueless about graphic equalizers. I get the impression he has never even tried to figure it out, especially the way he moves the sliders, and talks about it like it's some kind of random code you need to set for each song. It doesn't take an audio engineer to move a slider and observe the results.
My son is mad because I sold my RX7 that was identical to this one in 2007, after having it in storage for 20 years. Explained how it just wouldn't pass California emissions testing.
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Doug the kind of guy to hold up a bank and demand they check out Cars and Bids before handing over the cash.
WOW Holy cringe
Doug the kind of guy to absolutely destroy the whole collector car market, and then tell you to buy one on cars and bids.
Wow, hard to believe yet another stupid comment from Mr. Zancone. Your coveted position as king of the village idiots is retained. Stop annoying millions of normal people for the applause of a few of your fellow social rejects.
@@fergamis erm it was gonna happen anyway but hey do you boo 😂😂
@@richardmiller6422 THIIIIIIIS is what we call an internet meme boomer 😂
My Mom had purchased a 1985 RX-7 new from the dealer. 1.2L 12A engine 5-speed. Red exterior, grey interior. She couldn't even drive manual at the time, so her friend drove it home for her, and I was in the trunk area. The car got passed down to me in high school, and I just sold it a few years ago. So many great memories in that car. Think I fit 5 in there one time to head to the local pool! I would just take it out for drives in the summer evenings listening to the cassette tapes, just to drive. Miss those days.
Absolutely love your videos Doug. Please review a Hyundai Genesis coupe 3.8 please.
Doug I was born in 84 and I'm only 38.. saying it's 40 years old making me feel old man!!
This model is extremely popular in Puerto Rico. Puerto Rican men love rotary engines.
I had to check the CarFax on Cars & Bids to see if it was mine - bought this exact year/model/color combo back in 1985. I was so cool back then.
The button to pop up headlight is for cold winter area where the headlight could freeze shut during the night. You would let them popped up overnight so you could still use your headlight the next morning
My neighbor just re-did a 1983 RX-7 seals, carb and other stuff with 150,000 on it. It’s still in his garage just finishing up minor details.
I really love this RX-7 generation, it was Juspion's car, my favorite hero.
In 1984 you were still using R12, so the AC could be efficient (small. low weight.)
Just because your wheels are big doesn't mean they look good.
The TR-7 was hella famous for it.
Excellent video 📹
Amazing Japanese sports car 🏎.
We didn't know at the time, Mazda RX7, Nissan ZX, Toyota Celica Supra, Mitsubishi Starion and Subaru? were best sports cars in the world 🌎.
Western motoring journalist would deliberately trash them.
Thank God for Internet and Social media 😮
I had a 1985 and it literally felt like a go-cart with a roof. lol
I want one of these. Don't make it more expensive than it always is
Hey doug can goh review a Mazda rx7 fc to finish the trio?
I LOVE when Doug does an overview of older cars like this. I grew up when cars like this were new and it takes me back. Never stop doing reviews of older cars Doug they're great!
He should do more classics like this
I agree. While I enjoy Doug's reviews of current cars, the old and odd ones are the most fun, I think.
When I was in high school in the mid-80s I had a friend who had an FB RX-7. (She was a waitress at the restaurant I worked at after school; these were *accessible* cars, not just toys for the wealthy.) It's a lovely car. Yes, the engine is going to want a lot of maintenance; and I couldn't keep one of these myself these days, as it would be constantly bottoming out on the gravel road to my house. But they're pretty and fun. As attractive as the FD is, the FB is still my favorite. And that power/weight ratio was very respectable at the time.
he’s stating he won’t do anything before the 80s. He says the views aren’t there. Which I think he should do them anyway because he’s making a ton of money now through Cars & Bids.
I don't like when he does reviews of older cars. He's a good car salesman. However, I don't think he can remove his mind from the present. He always compares the old to the new. He's also clearly not mechanically inclined. I find it difficult to listen to people talk about cars when they don't know anything about the mechanics of the car. Manual steering for example. Sure it's difficult to steer at low speeds but it's never going to leak power steering fluid and may never need to be replaced, ever. Someone who has never had to fix their own leaking steering box cannot fathom that.
OId cars are where its at. New cars are done.
I had a car with pop up headlights. One of the main reasons they had that pop up headlight button (without turning the lights on) is that when you got a really heavy snow or a thick layer of ice, those pop up headlights (sometimes) wouldn't pop up if they were covered with thick ice or a layer of heavy snow. So, if you knew it was going to snow all day while your car was parked outside of the office, you'd pop up the headlights so you'd have headlights on for your drive home on a dark, cold snowy night.
Yup, also it was how you changed out the sealed beams.
Makes all the sense in the world.
It was so you can say hi to other cars without actually waving your hands.
@@aaroncollins5188 Biturbo Coupe and Acura Legend Coupe have 200+ bhp on average.
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the sound controls in this car are actually very awesome, actual physical Equalizer and balance controls is pretty sick
Just shows that doug isn't really into music, an equalizer like that is a dream and rarely even accessible today.
Ya I had an 84 and that stereo was actually quite good.
exactly, people who are into audio do actually know how to use a graphic equaliser, and can hear by ear which frequency bands need cutting and by how much
Doug's continued ignorance on graphic equalizers is hilarious. He was roasted years ago for not knowing what it was when he saw one the first time. Now he acts like it's totally useless. But man, I WISH I had a graphic eq in my cars. They are awesome!
IMPORTANT NOTE:
The GSL-SE was upgraded with a 1.3L rotary with fuel injection and 135 hp and 4-wheel discs. The pre-84 cars had a 1.1L with a carburetor and 100 hp and rear drum brakes, and that engine continued in lesser models in 84-85.
I bought the first GSL-SE sold in San Diego in this same Sparkling black, but with a more tasteful (all) grey cloth interior. Mazda introduced the RX-7 with the 1.1L engine, but at that time they offered the 1.3 (13B) in the RX-4, so I knew it would end up in the RX-7 some day. I waited patiently, then got the first SE.
I won a local autocross championship with it and kept it for 3 enjoyable years. With a limited slip diff, it did great drifts. At 6’1”, I fit fine even with a helmet.
Thank you Doug for this wonderful memory!
GSL models featured 4 wheel disc brakes as well.
I originally thought Mazda only produced the SE (GSL-SE) model in 1985, but I guess they did so in late '84 as well. (Besides being fuel injected, the SE also came with these 14' wheels vs 13".) I drove a White '85 GSL, fully loaded, with 4 disc brakes, but with Grey cloth interior, (in San Diego as well). I agree, the cloth interior was stellar, and in hindsight, ages ALOT better than all the leather examples I see on Bring A Trailer. My biggest question for @dougdemuro is, how the HELL did you successfully smog that thing for use in California?!! (That's my biggest obstacle to owning this again.)
It’s been a LONG time, but I think the ‘84 GSL-SE models hit dealerships in the 4th Quarter of ‘83, since I had mine to run in the full 1984 Autocross season. The first 3 arrived on the same day, and I was on the waiting list at all 3 dealers. A white one, a beige one, and I bought the Sparkling Black one.
You’re right that prior RX-7s had 13” wheels; these got 14” which allowed for larger brakes.
I can't believe he doesn't mention this critical issue.
I'm pretty sure the rear disc brakes were offered before 1984. My 1.1L 1983 Fb has them.
THISSSS..... is a Monday upload, and it is quite a pleasant surprise from Doug. He has long maintained a consistent Tuesday-Thursday-Sunday schedule, but today appears to be a special exception. And indeed, we are here for it.
I was wondering that. Wonder if we will get a video tomorrow still
He uploaded this video on Monday because this car is going to be listed on cars & bids and also we can see that he didn't put timestamps in this video
maybe he wanted to match the timing with the video he did with jay leno, they both released their videos within 5 minutes of each other's
TH-cam algorithms changed possibly?
@@Tempsho make me wanna say THISS.... also. 😂
Hey Doug, I think you missed a pretty important detail when discussing trim levels: every trim up to and including the GSL came with the carbureted 1.2L 12a motor. The GSL-SE was the only trim that got the fuel injected 1.3L 13b motor that is so loved by rotary fans, and was only available for the final years of its life, 1984-85, if my memory serves right.
I owned an '84 GSL myself as my first project car. Never got it running properly but it was sure nice to look at! 😅
Correct. The 84 85 GSL-se was the only model with the fi 13b. all others were 12a with a Nikki 4 barrel.
Must have been the engine my 85 had. My buddy had an 84 that was a lot slower! I remember mine being pretty competitive at the stoplight for it's time!
Thank you @duckraisin! I was surprised to see Doug miss that! I had a GSL-SE with the 13b and enjoyed pulling away from my buddies with lowly 12a motors. I replaced the RX7 with a GTI Mk2 16v. Oh how I miss them....
Good point! I had a s4 gtr, was amazing. Will eventually get me a s3 and sd
The GSL-SE also had the slits in the front air dam in front of the front wheels.
The SE only.
This looks so cool. Always preferred this one rather than the successor.
Thanks for reviewing this one, Doug.
Yeah, what a well preserved car too.
what's wrong with FC RX-7?
@@volvo09 I'm interested to see how much someone is willing to pay for this. There can't be many of these left in the condition that this one is in
@@JJ_5289 same here.
(Imagine someone buying it only to spray paint the interior white and turn it into a stretched tire "stance" car) 😂
@@Grulaz Perhaps nothing is wrong with the FC, he may just prefer the FB more. The Corvette C8 is a fine car but I prefer the C7 more.
This was the one for me. The car I wanted in high school couldn't afford, no matter how many shifts I worked at the movie theater. The RX-7 is still gorgeous all these years later.
Dude, it's called an equalizer and plenty of people actually know how to adjust it. It's not really a mystery, unless you're ignorant.
Among all the other reasons I can't stand dug
This is another one
Ĥe thinks because he doesn't know something no one else does
And when he's looking at older cars his so called quirks and features are just the way things used to be
I don't know how anyone can stand to listen to him for more than 5 seconds
In 1996, I was 19 and my girlfriend had an 86 RX-7. We took it on a camping trip to the Canadian rockies. Sure, the car was already old at that time, you couldn't leave town without having a spare jug of motor oil. But it still ran well, looked cool, was a conversation piece. I got to drive it on some narrow, winding mountain roads and I still remember that as a very fun experience.
So much nostalgia in this review for me. I had a white exterior, black interior 85 RX7 GS in 1996 when I was in high school. It was way too much fun to drive. I got a great deal on it after a full rotary rebuild and sold it after a year of driving. It was the worst winter car I have ever owned. A lightweight, high revving, rear wheel drive, manual, with low ground clearance, and no power steering is a recipe for disaster. I bought an 85 Isuzu Trooper II for winter driving. I'd love to see Doug review one of those.
My neighbour drives an ‘99 Isuzu Trooper. That thing is a proper tank
omg, speaking from experience the first-gen RX-7 was awful in the snow. I had all-season tires on it and ended up in someone's front yard after just an inch or two.
I remember my Dads 83 RX 7 in the winter. Manual pull choke and would take forever to start
My dad had a gold 81 in the early 90s and this is the car I learned how to shift in and started my car obsession.
@@lancairw867 I was trying to forget about the pull choke. 😂
k, ima say it...... The sound in this car (at the time) was incredible as the speakers were all right behind and beside you. My brother had a 1985 version . Those equalizer controls were sooo cool at the time. You could adjust the midrange and the high notes, and of course, the bass. I try to use the one integrated on my phone and it is NOTHING compared to the system in the RX-7. What song were we listening to you ask? Def Leapord: Love Bites. Perfection!
Millennials have only ever heard music with brickwall production and low bit rate mp3's. Doug is simply clueless about certain aspects of tech. I do look forward to the day his kids tell him that an EV sounds as good as his Carrera GT.
Agreed- I had an '84 GSL-SE, and that stereo was really good among factory systems of the time. That being said, I upgraded all four original speakers, added door tweeters, and built a subwoofer in the storage compartment behind the driver's seat. It was amazing!!
@@gregmakulec3092my 82’ GSL had the Clarion stereo with the separate tape deck…no EQ…I was so mad when the GSL-SE came out with the fuel injected 13B and that incredible stereo! I had upgraded my speakers and ran a second set of rear speakers at the far back hidden behind the carpet where you filled the rear washer “bag”…I ended up getting some great sound. I’ve had an 85’ GSL-SE for some time now and I changed out the stereo and speakers…added the rear speakers like I originally did, and then a subwoofer in the storage box behind the driver seat…built a box to mount flush after removing the compartment door and added two amps, awesome sound now.
My sister owned an RX-7, which looked a lot like this one with the red interior but I think with a charcoal gray exterior. It was an amazing car. I love the looks. This video brings back a lot of memories. It turns out I liked the car much better than I did my sister. Rotary engines seem like they should be more efficient because the motion of the rotors continues in one direction, unlike pistons which are constantly reversing direction. However, I think that rotary engines don't get as good of compression or fuel combustion as conventional engines do.
Yea amazingly junk.
A friend bought an early one and got around 16 MPG.
I like this car also much more then I like your sister.
It doesn't have good FC not because of a lack of compression or inefficient combustions. Compared to 4 or 6 bangers in that era, all engines are not very efficient.
The reason is has very poor FC is simply the number of cumbustions strokes per revolution of a crank. In an Otto cycle engine, every 2 turns of the crank corresponds to 1 combustion cycle. In a rotary engine a combustion cycle occurs every 1/3 rotation of the crank. So essentially, for every turn of the crank, you get 1 bang. Coupled with leaking apex seals. FC is always going to be terrible. But it's got great power to weight ratio.
@@sgtjyf01 Thanks for the info.
It's been mentioned above, but the critical difference with the SE was the 13B fuel-injected rotary. ALL other trim levels featured the carbureted 12A (still with a manual choke!). It's also the only trim level to feature the 14" wheels. Others were 13s only. A 1984 GSL-SE was my first new car, and it spoiled me forever. Wish I still had it! ❤️❤️❤️
Here in Australia, we got the 14inch wheels and bigger brakes with the 12a engine,. They didn't sell the 13b version here
The other purpose to pop the head lights up without turning them on is if you were to park outside in cold weather, is to prevent them from freezing shut and damaging the headlights or the motors if you tied opening them.
And to wink at the pretty ladies.
Add being able to change the bulbs to that.
YESSS! I was screaming that at my monitor!
@samlepro3 yep, had a 323F / Astina. You have to remove the metal cover to change the bulb.
No. On my 323F / Astina they never froze in place. The motors on Mazda model are usually the same as the wiper which turns two wipers plus two long levers. No ice could damage them. 😂 A bulb change requires opening them.
ive had my family's fb for a couple years now after it was abandoned for 2 decades, been my daily for 3 years. constantly doing clutch dumps, taking it 1k over redline, pulls at every stoplight, delivering packages etc and that 12a rotary just took it all no problem. these cars are gems, glad to finally see doug cover this one.
I had almost this exact car. Same exterior color, with the same red pin stripe. Mine had a black interior and both the glass roof and a metal roof you could choose between. My step-dad ordered it from the dealership with all the options and drove it for around 10 years before I got it from him. So much fun to drive. So easy to break the tires loose around corners. It always felt like you were right on the edge, even though you were never really going that fast.
5:05 I love the interior. The contrast between the wine red leather and silver plastic is very nice. It looks simultaneously sporty and luxurious.
it also looks very modern. That center console could have been from the 2000s
@@knupaw that's what I was thinking. Doug mentioned how 80's it was, but I dont think so at all. Compared to almost any other interior from '84, including German vehicles, this interior has held up incredibly well
One of the most ergonomically correct interiors I’ve experienced. Everything is right where you want it.
I agree, looks quite nice even if a bit too red for my standards :)
The overall condition is quite impressive aswell - looks very fresh!
that equalizer and balance switch is literally my dream. 10/10
My first car... had a base model 85 GS. I am 6' 2" and I fit very well! Terrible heat shielding means the red hot exhaust heated the cabin nicely in the winter, but ROASTED me in the summer. No AC, no power steering, manual windows, what a blast that thing was. Miss it daily.
Man I am old enough to remember when cars had A/C, power steering/abs as optionals lol.
Love it! I tried to buy one for my 1st car but was told it was too unreliable.
It was my first car too back in 2000. I had a GSL, so I had a/c and power windows. I’ve owned multiple of all three generations and still miss that 12a first gen the most. It wasn’t fast, but it had full racing exhaust so it sounded like it was, and at 16 that was probably a good thing. I loved the semi manual choke. It never once stranded me either.
Once again Dougie D shows his audio system ignorantly 🙄
Just watched Jay's video. So cool to have a car guy like him call you friend and show admiration for all you've accomplished. Doug has truly made it.
My dad had an original RX7. My mom would drive us to school in it. However, it only had two seats so I rode in the trunk. Those were different times for sure. My dad had to sell it after owning it for less than a year because he got so many speeding tickets in it.
Your dad must be a reckless driver
Lol, your dad must be 'Most Wanted'
I remember riding in the space behind the back seat of a VW Beetle.
"Really, you don't." The audio bit. Sorry Doug but as someone who went to audio engineering school I damn well do. Now is that head unit good enough with its pre amp, amp and speakers to really make it good... LOVE these cars, so damn fun to drive. Thanks for sharing Doug!
He is utterly clueless about graphic equalizers. I get the impression he has never even tried to figure it out, especially the way he moves the sliders, and talks about it like it's some kind of random code you need to set for each song. It doesn't take an audio engineer to move a slider and observe the results.
@@crookedtool definitely one of those things where people have huge talents in one area of life but are COMPLETELY incompetent in other areas lol
@@crookedtool HAHAHAHA You are not wrong.
So the sliders on the radio are for the EQ. EQs definitely make a difference to the sound, but they’re pretty much all digital these days. Most of them only let you control 3 bands: bass, mid, and treble. So it’s impressive that this Mazda included a 9 band EQ actually.
Along with the physical joystick to direct sound and the tape deck, this car’s audio is a fun blast from the past
One of the most 80's Cars out there, my Dad used to own one of these into the mid 1990s and i loved riding Shotgun in it!
Also Doug already uploading on a Monday? I hope that means we get one more Car Review than usual this Week!
Prost & Cheers from the Bavarian Alps
Oh no, Dougs inflating the cheaper RX7s, there goes my dream of ownership 😪
It was not fast for anytime
Actually it really was quick more than fast. Not particularly powerful, but faster that any muscle car of the prior decade stock in short bursts. It was a throwback to 50s porches with less horsepower that were light with hi rev gearing.
The second car I ever owned (in 1990) was a '79 RX7. It was a bucket of bolts by the time I got to it but still, a dozen or so cars later, it is my all time favorite car I have owned. Loved not having power steering...it was like the road was talking to you through the wheel. And SO low to the ground. What a driver's car. (And totally unreliable!) Thanks for bringing me down memory lane, Doug.
There used to be a manual choke on the RX-7 where the circular cutout is on the left side of the steering wheel. To start the RX-7, you'd have to pull the choke all the way out then turn the key to get the fuel mixture right. It was the quirkiest of quirky features.
That's the same as older carburetor motorcycles with the pull out choke to flow extra fuel to cold start the engine.
Nothing really *that* quirky with a manual choke on a carb car in the early 80's though really :)
yes, my 83 fb had a choke, my 87 fc did not
Many, if not almost all cars of this era, had a manual choke.
No choke on the GSL-SE since it had fuel injection, but all the carbureted rotaries had a manual choke.
Doug the kind of guy to install speed cameras in his hallway.
Once upon a time I had 3 of these (FB) at the same time. All earlier carb 100hp models. Felt faster than they actually were. Would probably feel painfully slow today. The steering was not great at low speed (and not even rack and pinion) but I do miss manual steering. The rear axle hopped around a bit on bumpy corners which the FC with IRS did not. Gearbox was great. I put an RX-7 box in the B2000 pickup I also had at the time and it was such an improvement to that truck (which had the worlds worst gearing). At 5'10" I barely fit with a helmet on in a sunroof equipped car, no problem with a solid roof. The pop-up headlight feature was handy for autocross so I could better gauge where the front corners of the car were.
I got rid of those eventually and got an FC, with which I won a few local autocross championships. I currently have a Subie BRZ 2022 which is light years ahead of all of them. Since I am not nostalgic I would never go back.
If you absolutely have to have one of these 1st gen cars though, the 84-85' GSL-SE model shown here is the only one worth bothering about. The larger fuel injected engine and bigger brakes just much better, even if the car is a bit chunkier. Can't get decent tires in the original size anymore though, which sucks.
That stereo is a thing of beauty IMO
The wheels are one of the best things about it. The first and second generation RX-7s actually had real tires that allowed it to be driven on actual streets with bumps and potholes. I used to have a 1976 Carmaro, a MUCH larger car than the RX-7, and it had 14" wheels. That allowed for tires that actually had sidewalls, and looked and worked great.
I used to drive around in one of these. Man, it was so fun to drive, much like the Miata. These were a lot of fun. Then I drove the 1993 twin turbo and it was a whole new level. The high revs were so nice, as mentioned by Doug. He is right on point. I know Doug is an expert.
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My buddy in high school had a 83, this was 94-95ish. We decided to drive it ftom Phoenix to a airshow in Yuma. It broke down three times, last time the AC compressor froze up, so me being the car nerd decided to just cut the belt off, which worked. He never fixed it and just drove it like that till he totalled it.
Like god intended
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Such a beautiful car, I love rotaries they last a long time if you drive it like its meant to be driven. The apex seals go bad because people baby it with low rpms like a normal car and build up carbon, if you rev it high every time you continue blowing out the carbon. 14:18 another problem EV enthusiasts refuse to understand and not just the steering but every single mechanical component that connects you to the car they replace with wires ruins the car and strips the driving experience to that of a $5 toy hot wheels car. Zero interest in electric cars.
Cool video! I learned to drive a manual transmission in a red 1984 RX-7 GSL in the way early 2000s. Fun fact, all trims except the GSL-SE had the 12A carbureted engine. The GSL-SE got the 13B fuel injected engine. It would have been my first car if the rusted brake lines didn’t fail sending me into a tree.
I learned on mine right after the exchange of insurance, and had to get home. Went from 1st to 4th and kept stalling at each light until I got home and had my gf at that time show me how to shift. I learned to rev up a bit before going in gear and letting out the clutch more gental. Didn't take long and I was doing good down shifts and letting her rip out.
My first car was an 84 RX-7. I didn't keep it long partly because it was carbureted and I had no idea what to do with a carb to keep it running smoothly but mostly because it was one of the few that came with the automatic. That car was a pretty solid lesson in what an awful match a little rev-happy rotary is with a 3 speed slushbox.
KEEP THESE OLD CAR REVIEWS COMING! forget the views, make us happy!!
I had a 79 & 85,and with a few mods, you could get some good performance.I mean feeling the rear tires twisting going from 1st to 2nd,and a tiny bit going into 3rd. And they were great in the twisty bits, literally you felt like you were on rails,they were super fun little cars.
My Grandma's neighbor had a FB parked on the side of their driveway for YEARS. Mainly because it did not run. I'd always stop and look at it when I'd go over to their house. Unfortunately, they sold it about a year ago. But it's nice to see this one in such nice shape.
4 out of last 5 videos are for crap for sale on his website. He literally doesn't review new cars anymore. It's pretty funny that people are willing to watch 30 min ads dressed up as "reviews".
I've always liked the Series 1 RX 7, and it looks especially good in this spec. I've never seen one of these in black before, and with that red leather interior too it looks fantastic. A friend of mines Mum had one of these back in the late eighties. A 1982 model in red, and it had the Elford turbo conversion, which pretty much doubled the horsepower. It was a properly quick car for its day
While it’s overkill for a car speaker a most likely economy class cheap one at that, there are definitely people out there who can tell the difference between small adjustments made especially audiophiles, but in this situation it certainly is silly.
6:00 Doug...an equalizer is not overkill, it's very simple to use to maximize the sound you want. Right side is treble, left side is bass and the middle is voice. Equalizers are still used today in apps for headphones, amps, etc.
I think he’s trying to say that during that time car speakers together with the radios we’re not going to be spitting out sound high quality enough for you to truly hear a difference by messing with the equalizer.
@@MrCashMoneyD18 even fm radio can benefit from some EQ. I think Doug just doesn't really care about music.
@@MrCashMoneyD18, the 80's was the beginning of hifi audio. I'm 60 and the audio was incredible back then. Today is of course better but so are most things.
Car stereos at that time were getting a lot better than they'd ever been before. The 1/8" cassette took a while to make 8-track obsolete, and the early 80s WAS that 'heyday' of mid to high(er)-fi on the move ...boom boxes, anyone?
Graphic Equalizers could be either gimmick-y _and/or_ a modest advance. Every form of stereo that was trying to 'be with it' had them. Legitimately it's for helping the speakers get along better with the room they're in. _In a car, though, all it can do is help cheap speakers sound a bit livelier._
I just think Doug is not a big music listener, which is okay. He's so thorough about everything else but the car sound system never seems important to him
This was the car I drove in high school/early college. My interior was grey/black (so may have been one spec below this) and it was great. This along with my Suzuki RM125C was all my 19 year old self needed back then. Great memories. And BTW Doug, that switch to flip the headlights without turning them on, drivers of this car used it to "wave" to other RX7 owners as they passed on the road.
If you flipped the headlamp switch on and off repeatedly quickly they would go out of sync alternating back and forth with one go while the other was down.
Old car stereo eqs were awesome. Of course we knew Doug. What a silly comment.
Say a tape had too much top end or lacking low end, we would compensate for the best sound.
Maybe your ego got so big it's stuffed your hearing Doug.
My first new car was a 1980 Mazda RX-7. The rotary was of enormous interest, and a huge bonus was that the car came with everything; the only upgrade I remember being available was a tape deck. The earlier version like mine didn't have a lot of the "quirks and features" as found in this one - there was no beeping to insist on upshifting, for example. It was incredible good fun to drive, was great in the snow and even more impressive through fairly deep flooding - one late night on the way home a lot of cars were stranded and I just powered on through no problem. With over 100K on the speedometer, I sold it after four years for 70% of what I paid for it. A great memory!
16:39 this dosen't have any features the Fiero GT is missing, yet it scores 3 vs 2, just to make total score equal
Oh Mazda. I'm so sorry for what has happened to you.
I've always loved the FB RX-7. I still remember buying one in Forza Motorsport 6 as pretty much my first custom car in that game. I painted it black with diffusing blue stripes running along the bottom. I lowered it and slapped some Super Advan Racing V2 wheels on it, as well as adding a rear spoiler. ~9 year old me loved that car. The shape of the front-end, the wheels, the single-piece taillights, the pop-up headlights, the little slits on the bottom of the front bumper, I loved it all! Thanks for reviewing it!
And you could easily tell the difference in sound with the eq. It certainly wasn't overkill. Would love to have that option back.
I owned several GSL-SE's which I still miss, but the small handful of shops that actually worked on them stopped and certain parts became unobtainable or too costly. Either way, this was my favorite car that I ever owned.
My local Mazda dealer, when I owned one 8 years ago, still had an older tech that worked for them on their rotary hillclimb cars. So I could take it there if I desperately needed someone to work on it for me. Im sad I dont have that car any more :(
There was a shop in fort Worth Texas that repair these and I remember back in the day there was probably 20 non-running rx7s just sitting on the property. Nobody wanted them once they were deemed non-repairable for whatever reason.
That’s always been the thing stopping me from owning one
@@danielknepper6884 Yeah, that reminds me of the shop that I used to take mine for repair called Rotary Perfomance. All they work on these days are the RX-8's. These were either too costly to replace the blown Apex seals or in many cases certain parts were unavailable. Very unfortunate since these cars were so fun to drive.
@@Cant_Frag Yeah, I feel you and also used to take mine to one Mazda dealer who worked on them as well, but the repair bills were always astronimical 😲🥴.
What happened to Mazda over the years? They came out of the gate with fire in their souls starting with he Cosmo in 1967 then RX7, RX8, Miata. No more Zoom Zoom? The Miata was a good car for its time but it should have morphed into something that could fit more normal sized people, not just someone who is 5'4! Where are their other sports cars?
Mazda has barely survived a couple of corporate disasters. They just don't have the money for low volume cars, which sports cars unfortunately are. The Miata is it, and likely will be for the foreseeable future.
But it's not that cramped in a Miata. 6 feet tall can fit fine.
An 84 rx7 was my first car and owned it for 10 years. Loved how mechanical everything felt except the steering box. Only reason why i sold it was because i bought a 93 and didnt have space for it. Only issue i had was sourcing parts, really hard to come by any sort of parts in good shape. Very few aftermarket upgrades and very expensive that usually require some sort of fab work. Even suspension was hard to source, it was either OEM like replacement or sourcing from other cars like Fox body mustang and MR2. But if i had the space i would have 100% kept it.
I miss mine. I had this exact year and model in brown. He really hit the nail on the head. It’s fun and responsive even tho it’s not really fast. I didn’t know it was so light, it never felt that light to me bc you really have to drive it with the manual steering. I’m 5’9 so it wasn’t too small for me. You gotta watch the electricals on this vintage and it’s much harder to work on than the 78-82.
My second car was a 79 and my third car was an 85. Both the carbureted 5 speed versions. The 79 backfired like a mofo and had a more raw feeling. The 85 was far smoother and nicer inside. They never ran quite right but were reliable enough for my high school days. I was in the orchestra and jazz club and would drive my upright bass around town in them, along with an amp and still had room to spare. Super squirrelly on the road though, rear wheel drive with 13 inch tires could have gotten me in a loooot of trouble a few times but I got lucky. Fishtailing on highway 17 in front of a semi was probably my scariest moment. Also pulled a 180 in Los Altos hills which could have gone way worse. Fun.
I had a 1982 GSL and one thing that people around here did with the pop up headlights was whenever you saw another RX-7 coming towards you, you would pop the lights up and then back down to "wink" at them. Kind of like the Jeep wave now. Had more fun in that RX-7 than any other car I owned.
The GSL-SE is really the one to get, all the other FBs had 12A rotaries and were carburated. The GSL-SE came with a 6 port fuel injected 13B which was CONSIDERABLY faster than the 12a, came with a transmission with better ratios, and a ~4.10 rear diff.
Sorry Doug,
Your are wrong on sunroof operation. Yes, the big screw puts sunroof into vent mode, but must press two locking levers to remove. Can be done in-vehicle in less than a minute if in full vent mode.
Headlight up mode is for "flash to pass' This switch made it easy to pass vehicles in the left lane upon approach. The next gen RX-7 solved this with pass-through lenses to the down position headlamps.
These days it is considered "un/in polite" to flash headlamps so new most good drivers use a use outside turn-signal to await slower traffic to get off their phone and stop impeding traffic.
High trim spec RX-7's always had power windows, cruise, electric power mirrors, and even rear disk brakes! A/C do not know of RX-7 not having even on lower trim in N. America, but 80's were different.
Think lift-over is tall on this model. Try the next one..... And I had an engine in the back! Yes, a small Mazda 13b, but it fit.
Quirk of interest:
Only the SE model of the GSL's came with a fuel injected engine. All other models had 12a's and a manual pull choke on the left side of the steering column.
Rear wiper motor is bolted to glass and wiper arm makes it easier to open the rear hatch.
Rear view mirrors as "small" but electrically controlled for both driver and passenger. They give great visibility!
While not having power locks, you did have to hold "up" on the handle to lock the door when closing. This was to help prevent locking keys in the car.
Washer fluid for the rear hatch was not provided from the front main tank. Just a little pouch in the rear to add fluid.
Failure mode on the engine is typically external oil leaks. They run a long time, but if l leaking, can oil the clutch and make it useless. How do I know this? It happened to me. Dove to gas pump. Filled tank. Clutch now so oil saturated, could not leave the filling pump. Had to 'hitch a ride" to college as I got lucky and all students were traveling around the same time.
No power steering: I completely forgot the Gen-1 RX-7 did not have it! Car was so light that even pushing it to start because your starter motor went out was easy. I was younger and stronger, but never noticed....lol. Not having P.S. was almost forgotten as car is so light. Many cars even in the 90's did not have p.s.: Ferrari, Lamborghini, Lotus, Porsche (911), McLaren, etc.....not until much later.
Shape of this RX-7 is considered "cigar" or "torpedo" similar to Jaguar E-type. VERY far from a 928 (and l love them too)
Still a timeless vehicle and I miss it in all forms, but mostly GSL and up for rear disk brakes and power amenities. SE is like like adding a turbo.
previous owner of GSL & Turbo-II
Sorry, but Doug is a bit annoying and borderline obnoxious. But I do appreciate that he reviews older cars
, just not sure he has all his facts. I owned this car and loved it. And the sound system was phenomenal! As well as the 50/50 weight distribution when throwing it into a curve! OH Boy!!
I advice anyone who haven't heard the legendary Mazda 787B idling and full-throttle sound, PLEASE GO DO SO ! It's literally the best sounding car ever, powered by Mazda's 4 rotor engine 💪💪🤯
Mazdas for the American market were equipped quite well. My family had a 1980 626 coupe. It had the same steering wheel and shifter. It was very sporty, so much the press called it the poor man's BMW. Our 626 had the RX-7 waffle wheels, so many cool cars of the 70's had waffle wheels.
This was my first car back in 2000 at 16. 83 GSL black with tan leather. Had full racing exhaust. It wasn’t fast, but it sounded like it. Loved it so much. I’ve owned all three generations and that first gen is the one I miss the most.
A few weeks ago I saw an 80s black RX7 rolling out of a parking lot with a white guy driving it that looked he barely fit in it. I said to my friend, “was that Doug DeMuro?” Well, this video just answered my question.
RE: Doug's puzzlement that everything in the interior is red- That's how most cars were from the 1960's thru well into the new millennium. Interiors were usually monotone. Whatever interior color you selected, pretty much every part of that interior would be said color. So if you ordered a red interior, everything was red. Blue interior, everything was blue, etc. Having everything color keyed was considered upscale. Only low end cars had things like black steering wheels, black seat belts or black floor coverings with other colored interiors. I will note this "red" (I would not call it red now, but "oxblood") did not age well and you can see that certain parts of the interior have color shifted wildly.
I bought an '82 back in '86 and absolutely loved it! Had an epic 360 degree spin out in really heavy rain on the freeway when some jackass cut me off - thumbs up from other drivers when I came to a stop facing the right direction to just keep going. Not sure it would have ended so well in a less balanced car, but also the light weight of it may have contributed...😅
I’m a fan of all RX7s but saying the FB is the most popular is subjective. I don’t see anyone paying $30k for any of them at the moment. Maybe in a few years. I actually have a funny yet heart breaking story involving one of these. Several years ago i worked with a guy who became the owner of one in trade. He complained it burned oil. One of his friends told him that rotorys were famous for not needing oil. Guess how that went.
So hard to believe this is now a classic, loved my turbo SA22C with the 12A. Went genuinely quick with a TO3 snail. Rotors forever.
All one color was common in the 70s and 80s. Base models of cars were all black inside meaning you couldn't afford to have a colored interior. I had an all red interior pinto, all light blue mercury monarch, and an all beige daihatsu. When I see a car with a black interior and black wheels, I think base model poor man's car. Now people pay extra for blackout trim. How times have changed.
The one thing you must do if you own a rotary motor is constantly check and fill the oil. They will burn oil, especially when driving hard. You need to stay on top of it, and really check it a couple times a week if you drive it alot or at least every time you fill the gas.
I had an '83 GSL - I really miss that car, it was so much fun! There is a circular blank on the dash to the left of the steering wheel, which is where my manual choke knob was. When the engine was cold, you'd pull the plunger like a pinball machine and when the engine warmed up the plunger would pop itself back in
A 9-band equalizer doesn't seem that insane...a basic understanding of highs mids and lows is all it takes and that's pretty simple...."No you don't" :)
Imo black is a bit of a weird choice for this particular RX-7, i would honestly go with Lime Green, or a Coffee Brown color, those two are my fav for it, & it makes it shines more, it's so beautiful
Actually... The EQ in the radio is a neat feature to have on the radio, and it isn't overkill by any means.
Thats basically to finetune the audio in the car. Some people like more bass, some people like to pull up the mids, and then there are musicians/audio geeks that will finetune the audio to have it sound the best it can, tuning it to the interior of the car.
Not wantingh to sound condescending, but those "stereo controls" are mostly for people that understand how sound works.
I love that Doug loves rotary cars but I wish he wouldn't talk about them. I want everyone to continue thinking they're shitty and unreliable so I can continue buying them at affordable prices.
I bought a brand new 1988 RX-7 10th anniversary edition back in the day and i really liked it at the time.... until it blew up three years later after dealer replaced the engine.
WTH, Doug! The GSL-SE had a different ENGINE. This had a fuel injected 13B engine. The other trim levels had a carb 12A.
Graphic equaliser on the stereo….when car manufacturers respected music lovers. And yes, we do know how they work 🙄
This thing is gonna bring $30k or more absolutely beautiful car. Good job as always Doug, I always wanted one of these this might just make me push that button.
He is utterly clueless about graphic equalizers. I get the impression he has never even tried to figure it out, especially the way he moves the sliders, and talks about it like it's some kind of random code you need to set for each song. It doesn't take an audio engineer to move a slider and observe the results.
Of course it's on C[ocks]&B[alls], they're the only 'old' cars Daddy D reviews now 🙄
My son is mad because I sold my RX7 that was identical to this one in 2007, after having it in storage for 20 years. Explained how it just wouldn't pass California emissions testing.
Gotta disagree with you, Doug. The equalizer for the stereo wasn't overkill in my opinion. The sound joystick though...that's a gimmick. lol
I always thought the 280z was a competitor of the rx-7, at least in the looks department.😊