Moen Roman Tub Faucet Dripping Repair
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ย. 2024
- In this video I show you what I did to fix a Moen "Roman Tub" dual handle faucet (Chateu Two-Handle Garden Tub Faucet) that was dripping.
This model, 4902, uses cartridges, so the video shows the process of accessing and pulling the old cartridges and replacing with new cartridges. The cartridges are down pretty far in the valve body, so a special tool is required to get the cartridge nut out. The cartridges I needed were the older Moen 14891, but these are similar to the common Moen 1224 cartridge.
The cartridge nut removal tool, Moen 14272 works with 1224, 1234, and 1248, as well as my old 14891, and probably more. I did not buy the tool. Instead, I made a tool out of 3/4 copper pipe to remove the nut.
The video includes some of my initial research, and how I approached the problem, looking at the instructions on the Moen site, as well as what people were saying on Amazon about the nut removal tool.
This might not be the right way, the perfect way, the way you'd do it, the way a professional would do it, but it's the way I did it, and it happens to have solved the problem. Enjoy!
Excellent advice! Using a long deck screw to remove the stuck cartridge worked like a champ. Just made sure the lifting force from the claw hammer kept the screw perfectly vertical throughout the lift. I can’t thank you enough. Spent hours watching youtube videos of various tools that were incompatible with the Moen 1248 cartridge and had about given up. Your solution was the best of any. Awesome!
Glad it worked for you. That screw idea and keeping it vertical, that was a good observation.
Brilliant! We have the same fixture, circa 1993, and the hot side cartridge finally gave out and began to drip. What a blessing your video has been for me to replace it. Thank you!
I'm glad you found it helpful. Thanks for taking the time to comment.
You saved my day ! I couldn’t find or afford a plumber … thank you for sharing your solutions !
Glad to have helped out. Some of these things are within our grasp with just a little bit of sharing of experience.
God bless you!!! I was about to give up (which I never do) and made all kinds of homemade tools, looked at TH-cam’s until I was blue in the face, but wasn’t sure what brand faucet it was. And then … I decided to use the Google Lens and it instantly told me what brand and model 😁 Then I found your video. You Da Man!!! I’m going to do it tonight after work. I also ordered a WiFi valve to turn off the water. My wife doesn’t do anything fast so it’s just easier this way … LOL. Thanks again!!!
Ah, very smart to use Google Lens! I only use it for plants, but I need to think outside the box. Anyway, glad it got you to a solution.
my knob completely fell out, and your reconstruction part at the end of this video helped me put it back together. thanks!
Glad that part of the video was helpful. I knew as I'm trying to figure a way to do something, I might have viewers saying "all ya need to do is....", while I'm fumbling around, LOL! But I like to show my head-scratching and strikes and balls as well as the hits.
Yeah I got one just like it tysm for posting, unraveled the mystery for me! parts were clean and serviceable, just needed new O-ring. Valves lifted out easily with gentle pressure on the stem extensions, slipped plier under the top nut and gently levered, popped right up. My escutcheons so frozen to pipe after 24 years they won't come off, I saw another post where some desperado sawed em off with a dremel cutter, lol. Nice post for what looks like an easy job but isn't, tyvm!
Oh, what a drag that it wasn't an easy one for you.
Measuring the depth that the old cartridges sit down in the valve body BEFORE removing them is a key step. There is basically no way to otherwise be sure that the tab on the cartridge is aligned and seated in the matching notch on the valve body. On the 1248 cartridge the difference in height between aligned and fully seated verses misaligned and not seated is about 2.4mm. I recommend using a digital caliper's depth gauge for all the measurements but a manual one or just a witness mark on a small flathead screwdriver's shaft may work, depending on how good your eyesight is.
If you don't get the correct depth all you can do is remove and reinstall slightly rotated until it seats. Trying to rotate the cartridge body while in the valve body is almost impossible even if you can get it to turn because the fit it so tight that you can't rotate it accurately - just getting it to move insures once it does that it will move more than you want.
If you find blue deposits on the inside of the valve body, fold a half sheet of paper towel and then roll it up from the sides so one end is the doubled up towel. Work the towel down into the valve body using a twisting motion. Once the towel is fully down, saturate the towel with white vinegar and let is sit for several hours, then repeat the bottle brush cleaning. White vinegar one a paper towel will also remove the blue stain that you might find in the tub if the dripping has been going on long enough.
Allow several hours for the project as all the steps can take time - if you're lucky it will all go quick and easy but don't bet on it. A water shutoff can be a challenge to domestic tranquility.
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This is the exact video I was looking for. I will give it a shot tomorrow.
I hope your project was a success!
@@sengsational ordered everything including the plastic pieces but haven’t tried it yet.
Thanks for making the video and sharing your experience. Interestingly, you mention "getting up the courage" to do this DIY fix; it took me a good month to have the courage to work on mine. All turned out well, except I still got an extremely slow drip, which drives me crazy! I spoke with Moen, and they are sending another pair of cartridges. I get to do this all over again once they arrive. This time, I will measure the depth per your recommendation and hopefully get these cartridges seated correctly.
Too bad you had to go through this twice. I hope you've got the drip problem solved.
@@sengsational Thanks. It is now resolved. I'm crossing my fingers that the leak doesn't return until I move out. Haha.
Awesome!!!! With your video
I found the solution to my own. THANK YOU!!!!
You are welcome. Glad it helped.
Thank you for this video Tutorial! I was able to repair mine today !
Glad it worked out for you. Mine dripped for a while before I dared to tackle it.
Your good at explaining this. Nice work!
Thanks for the complement about my ability to explain. One of my friends watched one of my fix-it videos and said "it sounds exactly like we're sitting in your living room and you're telling me how you fixed something", LOL!
Thanks for making this video. Hopefully my cartridge replacement goes this well.
Did your project get finished successfully?
Just a tip for those who want to use long nose plyers. The standard size is 6" long, and that doesn't work very well. The middle part is too wide. The next smaller size is 5" long and the middle part is more narrow. I have both and my 5" is spring loaded open so you just squeeze and release inside the faucet tube. It works perfectly.
Thanks for the tip. I knew that making a tool out of a copper pipe wasn't going to work for everyone. Hopefully others will see your comment.
@sengsationa1 actually I liked your copper pipe tool better. I looked in my basement and couldn't find a 3/4 " pipe. I found a 1" but that's too big. 😀
Thanks for sharing this! This made the difference between a $20 project myself or what Im sure would have been hundreds on a plumber
Glad to have save you some money!!
Very HELPFUL....Nice detail
Thank you for the kind words.
the deck screw made the difference ,thanks
Ha! Another quick improvisation that just happens to work.
I saw that you used the 1248 cartridges to replace the 14891 cartridges, but in your description you mentioned that the 14891 is similar to the 1224. Did the 1248 work?
Yeah, the ones I showed worked fine.
Great video. My same problem. I hope to try it soon.
The dripping was happening for a long time before I actually did anything about it. It's hard to get motivated to dig into something like that because there's that nagging feeling that you'll take a small problem and rather than resolve it, you'll create a bigger problem. But I hope the video gives you some confidence to tackle the job.
Very detailed video. Thanks!
I try to make it "real", even if it includes a bit of a flood, hehe!
My thing is, I can’t find remodeled handles to fit the old Moen Roman tub faucets to save my life. There’s nothing wrong with my faucet except these ugly ass clear plastic handles. The universal ones won’t clear that chrome nut for the extension post…
Yes, the knobs don't fit into the more recent bathroom "look", and dates the fixture. Maybe we need to wait 50 years for them to become "retro" popular again, LOL!
Great video, I am having to remove the same, however the cold one has a rusted out screw that hold that extender to the cartridge. Did you have any such issues or did both your screws come out easily?
Thankfully, mine came out without issue. There are cases where my fix did not have the worst-case obstacles, such as the one you encountered. I'm not sure how best to resolve your situation. Let us know here if you found a resolution.
Thank you! You saved me! Exactly my problem
Glad I could help!
Thanks for the detailed video, I have the same exact tub/faucet setup on my 1999 home. I dont have a certificate with fancy gold stamp detailing the Lifetime warranty. What proof did Moen require in order to get their cartridges shipped out to you?
I just emailed or used the web contact button...not sure which. They're pretty lenient, I think, for providing proof. You might just be able to request replacements without any certificate or anything.
@@sengsational Thank you sir, you saved me some money and time. I emailed Moen and I should have two replacement cartridges in a week.
Thanks. Legend
Glad you liked it.
So helpful, thanks!!
Glad you found the video worthwhile.
Very helpful! Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the great video! My Roman tub faucet has the same issue and the top part of cartridge inside the handle looks the same as yours. does this mean my cartridge is also Meon Model 1248B? where to find the cartridge info without pulling it out from the pipe?
I just used the "look" of what was showing on top to determine which model I had. As Mike Milner mentioned, "domestic tranquility" is important: you can't just shut the water off to the house for a week and wait for the part to come in the mail!
Thanks for this demo. You mentioned that Moen sent you free cartridges because of lifetime warranty? Did they require a purchase receipt to prove you paid for them? In my case, these were installed by the house builder.
Mine were also builder-installed, but the former homeowner left a file folder with all of the "builder stuff" and it included a certificate from Moen. I did include an photo of the certificate when I requested the cartridges, but I'm not sure it was essential.
I did not need a receipt… just told them builder installed and the year
@Kelly Maloney I did the same, and Moen honored my request. I just sent pictures of the faucet, the year I purchased the home and my mailing address. It took 7 days to deliver. I finished the installation, and no more leaking! 😀
@sengsationa1 thanks. Moen honored my request. I installed them and no more leaking! 😀
I found the 1224 at my local Ace, but did you have the use 1248? My set is the exact same as yours.
Yep, They sent me the 1248's th-cam.com/video/4sFCk-YBkkU/w-d-xo.html
During my repair, the white plastics nut that screws down over the cartridge broke when using the pipe tool screwing it back in. What can I do?
The cartridge nut
Hmmm. Not sure how to correct that problem. Broke, as in not holding the cartridge in place, or broke, as in can't turn it, but still holding the cartridge? If the latter, then I guess you're ok, but if the former, I'd say you'd need to get a replacement cartridge nut.
If I have the same as you do but want to replace without breaking the tile which one is compatible? To the same one u have? Thanks!
Hard to answer that one Stephanie. The Moen site has a nice customer communication channel where you can upload photographs. They might be able to help.
Thanks!
You're welcome!
Basically I need the exact same ones you have or can I use a different one from moen?
I can only offer a suggestion: to use the 'contact' function at Moen. It allows you to attach pictures, so get some good pictures and ask them how to proceed.
Genius
one percent inspiration and 99 percent perspiration, lol!
Hi, I used the tool made for Moen Shower faucet to pull out the cartridge,I reversed the tool. Watch my video (spanish) on my page
I did see that they had some kind of puller tool for sale. That might have been a safer method because the method I used didn't pull perfectly straight up.
But you did a good job!!@@sengsational