Hi Dave, that's a great tip. I've immediately created an action from it that I can use as the basis for a black and white conversion with the TK Magic Mixer.
I'd use the Camera Raw filter instead of Tony's work around. Better control, a little quicker and more intuitive. Just my 2 cent's for what it's worth. Nice vid. Thanks.
Thanks, David. You can absolutely achieve the same result, but you'll need to stamp the layers before applying the Camera Raw filter, which will increase the file size. If that's not a concern, it's a viable option, and it is more intuitive, like you say.
Thanks for this tip and the explanation of the relationship between the tone curve and the saturation of the color. Very interesting for LR. But wouldn't I just use a layer with color control in PS in real editing to adjust the whole thing?
Ok, I will try it. Btw… you made a great job, so your channel is a excellent way for me to learn and understand the work with LR,PS and TK9 after my switch from capture one. 👍
Thanks Dave! Appreciate the video. Super cool. This maintains the ability to work in non-destructive layers and I like it. I guess the workaround is to stamp layers and go over to ACR as a smart object to achieve the same with the tone curve refine saturation slider. Great workaround and is something that we can perhaps incorporate after the initial balance and contrast adjustments in TK9? Good candidate for an action for sure!
@@donaldbernhardtI think this works. However, I believe that the intent of modifying saturation this way is to do so within the tonal range applied. The hue saturation layer would be global unless you were able to isolate the tonal value of the tone curve.
Nice trick. Thanks for sharing. 💯
Thanks Dave & Tony. This is a brilliant PS solution. I will most certainly be using that in my workflow.
That is so cool! I had seen a mention of it but do most of my editing in PS so had forgotten Thanks for this great work around Dave and Tony!
Glad you liked it!
very useful. I am going to try it on my night sky images
Hi Dave, that's a great tip. I've immediately created an action from it that I can use as the basis for a black and white conversion with the TK Magic Mixer.
Muchas gracias!
I'd use the Camera Raw filter instead of Tony's work around. Better control, a little quicker and more intuitive. Just my 2 cent's for what it's worth. Nice vid. Thanks.
Thanks, David. You can absolutely achieve the same result, but you'll need to stamp the layers before applying the Camera Raw filter, which will increase the file size. If that's not a concern, it's a viable option, and it is more intuitive, like you say.
Thanks Dave!
You're welcome.
what a neat way to use curves, thanks
Really useful post Dave. Thank you. Thanks to Tony too, for the very clever method.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice. (I typed nice exactly when you said nice at 3:36)
Thanks Dave. Loved it.
Glad you enjoyed it.
Thanks for this tip and the explanation of the relationship between the tone curve and the saturation of the color. Very interesting for LR. But wouldn't I just use a layer with color control in PS in real editing to adjust the whole thing?
You could, but the results would be slightly different. I tried it both ways and found the two curve layers to give a better result.
Ok, I will try it.
Btw… you made a great job, so your channel is a excellent way for me to learn and understand the work with LR,PS and TK9 after my switch from capture one. 👍
Thanks Dave! Appreciate the video. Super cool. This maintains the ability to work in non-destructive layers and I like it. I guess the workaround is to stamp layers and go over to ACR as a smart object to achieve the same with the tone curve refine saturation slider. Great workaround and is something that we can perhaps incorporate after the initial balance and contrast adjustments in TK9? Good candidate for an action for sure!
You're welcome, Dwight. Like you said, you can stamp layers and use the Cam Raw Filter, but this method will save on file size.
I like using a saturation mask and simply adjusting saturation. Thanks for your videos!
@@thejoyofeditingwithdavekellyRoger that!
@@donaldbernhardtI think this works. However, I believe that the intent of modifying saturation this way is to do so within the tonal range applied. The hue saturation layer would be global unless you were able to isolate the tonal value of the tone curve.
In photoshop, wouldn't it be just as easy to adjust saturation with adjustment layer (i.e HSL or Vibrance)?
You can achieve a similar effect, but the outcome will be different.
In PS you can do the same Refine Saturation slider if you use ACR filter.
That is true, but you need to stamp all your layers; your file size increases, and you lose your ability to have a non-destructive edit.