The last version of Photoshop that I used was version 7 on Windows XP. I switched to GIMP and haven't looked back. Mostly because I hate Abobe's subscription model. I absolutely hate the direction tech companies have been going in the past decade. Planned obsolesces, dumbing down, subscriptions, telemetry, etc. I want to go back in time...
Photoshop CS6 was the last one purchaseable but i keep CS2 around for reasons that they patched out the license server check and they can't take that one away.
Used Photoshop CS5, was disgusted by the new Adobe subscription model, tried Gimp a few days, was disgusted by the software, uninstalled it and hacked Photoshop instead. Today I'm no more a broke student so I am a very happy user of Affinity Photo.
I bought a used copy of CS3 and then used the s/n to download the version that doesn't care about the authorisation server. It means I'm stuck with OS 10.9.5 forever but computers are so cheap now I just use different machines for different tasks.
I transitioned from Microsoft Windows to Linux in 2009-2010, taught myself to use GIMP and Inkscape, and have never looked back. Both are available for $0.00 and allow me to do everything that I need to do, including commercial work, photo restoration, and Web site design, and maintenance.
Great thing about GIMP is that it allows the ferociously interested young minds who have not touched Photoshop but love to tinker with images a path to get involved in imaginative editing. I have no use for it, but watched the whole presentation just for the calming effect of Deke's voice ;) It's a noble thing you do for learners Deke, extending yourself out into the wilderness like this, with all the same grace & style and subtle comedy of a Photoshop tutorial.
"ferociously interested young minds" The kind of misuse of adjectives we'd expect from a gimpster, who uses a program that requires tutorials on how to perform the most mundane actions.
@@alphaforce6998 Photoshop has relied on decades worth of these kinds of tutorials on YT and in books before that. Adobes UI is not any more intuitive its just been accepted for longer.
We have now dynamic filters! I’ve wanted these for ages and they’re coming to GIMP 3! Though I still agree that Gimp, as a lot of free and libre software, has a lot of UX issues. It’s sad that there aren’t more UX designers in open source projects. Blender being a notable exception of course, it had the most legendary glow up the open source community has ever seen.
I used to teach photoshop but photoshop would not allow an education version at the time. As I don't teach students to pirate software I moved to GIMP. 10 years later I am a total open source convert. I love GIMP and also Blender, Inkscape, Darktable and Audacity. I note that if text has been rasterized and you want to edit mostly you just select text icon and click on rasterized text it will remove shadow and edit text. Then put drop shadow back on. Thanks for video
Hi, I'm an indie game developer and I'm looking for a simple free program with which I can edit TGA images. Do you know a progam that is not so complicate like GIMP and IS commercialy free to use ?
@@dekeNow I have installed many years ago many times GIMP and it was almost an overkill. And if I remember correct was it over 1GB big. Later was Photofiltre my favorite free program, but only for private projects.
You should include full disclosure that it's actually NOT ready. From the site: "So, what exactly is a “release candidate” (RC)? A release candidate is something that might be ready to be GIMP 3.0, but we want the larger community to test it first and report any problems they find."
@@braddavis5802 A lot of it has been rebuilt from scratch. It has its flaws and it has its strengths. I've been using GIMP to edit photos and even for photo manipulation for at least 15 years now and it has gotten better over the years but compared to, say, Affinity Photo or Photoshop it is not even close. But it is still capable, even now using the 2.x variety it is very capable. On top of it all it is free, unlike Affinity Photo and Photoshop.
@@braddavis5802 It's like 20 years behind Photoshop or even Affinity. Photopea is also free and is almost to the level of Photoshop, being pretty much a clone of it. And yeah, available literally on everything since it runs in a browser. Absolutely no reason to bother with GIMP.
By the way, the small text messages at the bottom of the main window informs you how to use the tools.. just read it and it will give you the necessary steps and modifier keys.
I had little faith in free software that competed with the 'big boys'.. Fortunately, every one of them are absolutely incredible for a completely free product. I use Blender, Audacity and Gimp/Inkscape.. I've used them for over a Decade now. I use to use Pro Tools and Photoshop. After trying these, I've never had a second thought about it... Harder? No! Things are just set up different. It's ALL there and nothing is 'harder'.
I used GIMP for several years before switching to Affinity Photo. GIMP was a very capable program, but for me Affinity represented a more user friendly package at a very reasonable price. I haven't tried GIMP again since switching to Affinity, so I'm not sure how much it's improved.
Watching this video reaffirms my belief that the UX design of GIMP could be improved so much more. I do appreciate GIMP for being able to export .ico files, but I would love it if the developers accept suggestions for UX changes.
used gimp for all my photoshop need back in middle school, but when i had to suddenly learn a encyclopedia full of keyboard shortcuts for the smallest things i would do with just a mouse click, i switched to Krita. Like really, if you need a cheatsheet next to you to zoom or recenter, fill select, switch layers etc than you know the program got too complex under the hood.
So true. Many people keep pushing the use of shortcut keys as they speed up your work flow. That may be true if the only piece of software you use is regularly i:. say Photoshop. Sure you can soon remember the most used keys. But, in my case, I use about 9 main programs. No way am I going to be able to remember which key(s) do what in what program. Sure I remember a few of the most used commands in each, but, most of the time, it's easier to go to the Menu/or icon.
Lack of dynamic layers - your example with shadows or also letters contours and other effects was the main reason i prefered to use very Old PS CS1 instead of gimp (which i loved Anyway) 8years ago. Also lack of proper CMYK support/conversion was alo another reason. And the fact that after all these years they still havent been able to implement these features proove that gimp is still not a serious graphic app.
Tiny icons by default must be a Windows thing. Here in Unix/BSD/Linux land, we have desktop environments that allow for custom auto-scaling for high-res displays -- makes life instantly easy by default.
I've used GIMP for years as a total amateur casual. I'm learning a lot of tricks in the first few minutes to just simply set the program up so thanks for that. One of the only things I had changed before was adding a keyboard shortcut to "Paste as new layer".
GIMP rocked my world since 2003-ish. Grokking the GIMP was the best tutorial ever and likely still valid today in terms of the concepts. Are the tools clunky? Yes. But it's also a strong point in that things don't jump around and change all the time. It's doing what I expect from it and with some patience I can create a masterpiece. Stuff all the other exuberantly expensive software out there.
Around 12 years ago I created a music video for a singer only using Gimp and Final Cut. I had to crea snow for a scene that was recorded in front of a Green Screen. I've been using Gimp for more than 15 years now and I'm not planning to switch to other Pic Editors anytime soon.
Yes gimp might look complicated,old and absolutely outdated at first glance; but once you get used to it it's kind of like riding a riding a manual car: you go fast and know the tools automatically. I personally like the fact the interface stays the same each year because like that you don't have to keep learning how to use new tools and features (that instead sometimes happens with Photoshop).Yes I know it might take 120 steps just to curve a text around a circle,but once you get used to using gimp it all just gets automatic. Last of all I think the fact you can literally run it even on grandma's shitbox without much lag is really nice,and the fact that it doesn't ask you to connect to the internet every now and then to check if you're paying you monthly load of cash to Adobe.
"Yes I know it might take 120 steps just to curve a text around a circle" Bitmap editors aren't designed for this task. It's amazing if you can do it at all.
Deke! You are hilarious! Thank you for showing us GIMP! I found out about it from your Newsletter and subbed here instantly while laughing at your descriptions! You’ve been doing a great job for years bro bro!
When I came across with Affinity Photo through your channel and tried the trail version and on this black Friday, I purchased the whole suit. I was regretted too much that I just wasted time with GIMP and Photoshop.
The reason the shortcuts seem weird to Photoshop users is that Photoshop is wrong and their minds have been poisoned! I've used GIMP since v2.2 in 2004. I'm trying to like Affinity but not really feeling it yet.
I have Gimp, Photoshop, Affinity, and Krita, and I always go back to Gimp, even in professional applications. The interface is better and more intuitive, the menus are more organized, and there is no AI bloat. Trying to do the same things in Photoshop takes me ages longer, and even in a workstation, Photoshop frequently crashes for me, even trying to do relatively simple things.
I am also a huge fan of GIMP and Inkscape over Photoshop and Illustrator. I use Linux as my daily driver, so it was the obvious choice for me and theres never been anything I can't do in GIMP/Inkscape. If there is, I just write a Python script to do it myself instead of paying for a subscription.
Same here - DTP and everything GIMP (and yeah you just send your monitor RGB profile along your images / pdf's to the printing shop - no need to send them CMYC) ...
I can see this if you started with GIMP early on, but coming from starting on Photoshop(Version 7 I believe it was), it’s incredibly difficult to reroute your memory muscle, and it also looks like the UI was designed back when Windows XP was still the current OS. I know some people love the old UI, simply for nostalgia reasons, but I think even photoshop is a bit behind in that area. Also, there’s just a ton of workarounds you have to do that take like 2 seconds to do in Photoshop vs in GIMO, just like the layers and drop shadow text issue he showed in he video. However, considering Adobe’s god awful subscription systems and tier pricing, and more outrages to me personally, it’s recent inclusion of the “AI” bullshit, which is basically just a collection of millions of artists stolen work put into commercially bankrupt corporate tooling for people with zero talent…I’d take anything over an Adobe product these days.
The thing is, developing a drawing program is quite difficult, especially with little to no funding. Things like UX is just not the highest priority, compared to functionality and stability. Not to say that gimp itself is very featureful, although I find it quite performant and stable, especially compared to photoshop.
Gimp is amazing software, has been giving pro editing capabilities to people for free for many years. The upcoming 3.0 version is gonna be even better. Fair enough, it's got a funny name, open source is not there to impress managers and suit and tie people, so...
I'm about halfway through this video and I really, really understand that you prefer paying a monthly fee for Photoshop. I don't know why that's my problem or why I would subscribe to your Patreon to listen to you complaining. Have a lovely day.
I use GIMP and Krita, mainly for 3D materials. GIMP is quite powerful when writing custom scripts to automate work. However these days I just use python from the terminal to do large batch jobs.
Okay, so what you were doing with the text, is you wanted two layers. Putting the effects on the original layer applies it to that layer. What you could do is duplicate the text layer, make the second layer transparent, but apply the drop shadow effect to it. This is similar to the legacy option, only you can then get a preview to it. You can still edit the text layer. In your image, you can have multiple layers which aren't switched on, so what I do when I am working is I have a number of inactive layers for where I do my critical blocking of the image. Duplicate those layers into something tangible. As for GIMP, it's open source, so if there is anything people say the program cannot do, your more then welcome to join and become a contributor, upload code commits and see if the community want to adopt it. This is what is great about open source, and most the people who work on paid projects like Photoshop would contribute code to a program like this. I mean, there are very good reasons to pay for proprietary software, if you want to work at the cutting edge, you will pay. I pay for JetBrains, big cash. I slammed my fist down on the table and said that I want this software. We all have software we will pay for because we know this is how we will make our money. The great thing is that a lot of these tools are good for newbies, they require dedication to learn. A true sandbox.
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Gimp to me when I'm on Linux is like a replacement for MS Paint on Windows. I don't daily drive with it, but if I need to do a quick tweak to a picture or setup something to print I use Gimp to do it. For everything else, it's Krita natively and Clip Studio Paint in Wine.
You are obviously not overly familiar with Gimp. The method you described to create a drop shadow is too complex, There is a straightforward way to do that. Your computer must be very slow if you are expecting it to take a few minutes to render the selected image using the foreground select tool. This takes a matter of seconds on my PC using Windows. Sizing control buttons etc is easy through Edit Preferences and, of course, is all personal choice to sizes of icons and shortcut keys you want to configure etc. I like my icons and text medium-sized and that suits me fine, you can also select to have the tools panel with colour icons similar to Photo Shop. Gimp 3.01 is now available and has many new features. But overall your video is good and informative for someone who is familiar with Gimp but would be a little daunting for a newcomer to photo editing. Gimp does have a rather steep learning curve but that is due to it having so many functions, even I who have been using Gimp for many years find new features that I didn't realize existed. Gimp is capable of doing most things that Photo Shop can do and Photo Shop is capable of doing most things that Gimp can do. I was an avid user of Photoshop until it became subscription only and you can no longer own a copy, this all comes down to greed, so I simply refuse to use Photo Shop.Thankfully, Gimp exists and is absolutley free and is truly Photo Shops biggest rival and competitor.
@@thomasmaughan4798 I have both applications and I don't find Photoshop more difficult to learn. Both are great and do the same thing for me albeit using different methods to achieve a similar result. I am annoyed with Photoshop for not letting users purchase the software any longer. I guess the subscription model suits some users but the option to purchase outright should still be available.
Yes. SANE, XSANE and xscanimage can work in GIMP for acquisition. I won't deny though, in the end I often just batch scan and then post-process in GIMP rather than going via GIMP directly.
Someone said that Gimp was mostly created for programmers with their own thought flow. That it can be used by graphic design artists seem to be an afterthought.
I use GIMP for like 10 years. I used photoshop back then, before. Im not pro. I just do like photography, retouched some for myself and did some pics for products sold by companies on ebay, and other online marketplaces. What I really miss from Photoshop is magic wand, that helped a lot. There is no such thing in GIMP. But I need to learn pro functions of it. Because magic wand is non-pro. What a joy to watch real pro on youtube in the sea of millions of absolute crap videos! Subscribed.
@dekeNow I watched it. I see the functions of fast selecting of needed area of image works in a pro-way, you need to do not so many clicks to obtain very good result. I need to learn it.
Also, although not a 1:1 replacement, Krita is a good alternative to GIMP. Which one is more suitable for someone is hard to say; just take them both out for a spin and make your own opinion.
Paint Shop Pro is still around, and it now has a lot of AI features that Affinity Photo still lacks. But Affinity Photo's support for non-destructive editing is much better. Maybe even better than Photoshop.
@@sinz52 AI doesn't interest me in the slightest. It's for people with no talent. I learned to develop film when I was 14, in 1976. I had a darkroom for many years up until 2010. I got on OK without AI.
Really good "intro", and some things that I haven't thought about in 25 years of using it! Just the idea of going to the "view" menu... Thx from 🇨🇦 in 🇩🇪
When I used to teach I used Gimp because it was free. Coming from Photoshop you'll be constantly annoyed unless you use it for a while and stop using Photoshop. I now have Affinity because even though its paid there no subscription. I still prefer Photoshop but I can get by.
Gimp has taken just close to 30 years to develop so don't talk rubbish. I use both Gimp and PS and both can do the same thing. How many programs have you developed?
I don't care! It does 95% of what I need, and I dropped PS as soon as it went to subscription, and bought Affinity, and upgrade to 2.x, but GIMP seems to be my go-to, because it works ok, and doesn't need a monster learning curve. UI could be different, maybe "better", but if everyone contributed just one month of PS subscription cost, imagine the amount of love GIMP could get!!
@@johnrobinson1020 They are not wrong, though photoshop may have similar issues. My first few weeks of using gimp to try to do a project i was working on were torture. I hated it so much. Now i use it every now and then and i know better how to search the web to give me details on how to do things in gimp, but i could have choked the makers when i first started.
@@johnrobinson1020 honestly that's sorta the point, 30 years of gradual development from contributors makes it hard to design and enforce a unified UI/UX, even if you have dedicated interface designers taking part (which I'm not sure they do, I don't see anyone credited for it). It would be a lot of work even if they were there from the beginning - so overhauling the existing application and all the different bits that have been bolted to it over the years would be a huge undertaking It's not a criticism, just the reality - they don't have the resources to do that kind of thing, and it does explain a lot of the awkward stuff. It's a solid program and a fantastic resource but the experience could definitely be improved, hopefully 3.0 has let them start fresh in a few ways (and fixed the dang tiny icons, no not those ones)
Love GIMP. The only one issue to me - that made lately black interface, with icons one needs to look for with microscope or pointing back space telescope!
Been using the GIMP consistently since 2002 (actually started using it back in 1999). Install G'MIC plugin, and, in many respects, the GIMP is superior to PS, IMO. Also, good to grab Resynthesizer and Mathmap plugins as well as Shellout (used to run a few PS plugins that PSPI cannot handle; it launches a 3rd party program that is more friendly with 8bfs and transers the result back into the GIMP) and User Filter for other types of PS plugins. Yes; GIMP itself is useful for most folk, but the extra tweaks makes the GIMP astronomically better, imo. :)
It's true, you can't beat free. Don't pay for Photoshop. Just find another way to use it 😉 I haven't had photoshop on my PC for over 10 years. I do use GIMP for whatever rare meme edits I do, but I've given up hope that they'll ever make it convenient or intuitive. That's just not what FOSS developers care about.
Yeah, it's best to give big corpo Adobe full control of my content so that they can train the AI that will do my work pretty soon. Oh, I forgot to mention the "you'll own nothing and be happy" future that Adobe loves.
I create art and put it in production from business cards to billboards to stone monuments to interior signage of all kinds. We do everything from traffic signs to bronze statues to post cards. For over 30 years I have used all the applications for these things and my swiss army knife is CorelDraw Graphics Suite and I prefer ver X8. I work everything full scale up to 150 feet. For speed and total control of output both vector and raster I have seen no equal. I output machine ready .dxf for CNC operations and print ready files for large or grandformat printers of various kinds in the same application. If I use Inkscape/GIMP or Krita it is for file processing workaround or something but if I had to use them I for production I could but it would suck. If I had to use Adobe products I would just quit.
I have used gimp for years now but gimp is not a competitor to photoshop. Sop has more tools as it should with all the developers on it. Gimp is it's own beast but I like it because the devs do this for opensource and it is great for no outlay, but I do send the devs some money as a thank you.
GIMP is hard to use and used to be more like Photoshop but now operates every way opposite of Photoshop. I tried to do a simple crop in GIMP, once, and it took me way too long to get what I wanted than would have happened in Photoshop.
I tried Gimp years ago and couldn't deal with all those stupid floating windows all around the screen. The UI seems to have improved a little bit, but it's still too messy to attract old Photoshop users. They should straightforward copy Photoshop in all they can, to the border of copyright infringement, including all shortcodes.
Well, it is worth mentioning that you ever used MacPaint back in the 80s, the first Photoshop felt like less new program and more update. Long live Bill Atkinson!
Oh I remember when I needed drop shadow. It was very slow and clunky in Krita, and in Gimp there is just no drop shadow.. There was a plugin for that.. that was just outdated and abandoned. (since I've googled and found that old plugin, I presume at that time Gimp didn't had that filter effect that in this video)
Reinforcing your take: Drop shadows seem to be a highly controversial topic in this thread. Not knocking GIMP, but again, Ps was rocking the drop shadows back in the “chops” days, and automated them the same year Friends tried to remain relevant by devoting an episode to Hootie and the Blowfish. 🙄 I believe the plan is to update GIMP shadows in 3.2.
@@dekeNow it still very clunky, as any other free linux based software. Like I'm too old and rigid to learn something new, I've tried Blender, but after 3dsmax it's just unbearably bad, even if it's actually become much much better than version of Blender for same times as 3dsmax 5/6 as example
As an old coder, I can highly recommend to Gimp developers, tolerating the extra fuss of coding in a status message for every single operation 😁 Also helps with debugging 😉 You can even code it into a subroutine!
GIMP would be so much better if it just used the same damn keyboard shortcuts as Photoshop. I have no idea where anything is in either program, I just know what I need to hit in Photoshop to do the thing that does the stuff I want. Im basically flying blind in GIMP.
I have both GIMP and Photoshop CS6, I refuse to pay monthly for something I can never own or must rely on the "cloud" to use. Photoshop and Illustrator are wonderful programs but are nothing but a black hole you throw money into every month just to use, no thank you. Gimp is free and does what I need it to do. If Adobe offered a stand alone version of PS again, I would buy it but until then, I wouldn't give Adobe the time of day.
Well, Adobe does offer a mostly-Ps-only subscription. That said, I personally think it's too damn expensive. (Should be $4.99/mo, but hey, what do I know?)
GIMP compared to Photoshop: Both have nearly the same capabilities, however like appliances purchased from stores GIMP is partially dissembled, and Photoshop is fully assembled straight out of the box. I think I rather pay for the appliance fully assembled instead of assembling it myself.
Most unnaceptable thing in 2024 soon to be 2025 is Manually selecting parts of an Image by slowly drawing out around the edges of your subject. Caveman stuff, major timesink. Affinity and PS have great smart selection. Rest of GIMP I could live with...probably...But not that,
To be honest I don;t know photoshop and when I had to use it it was just as unintuitive to me as Gimp is to someone used to photoshop. There's just too many functions in both Photoshop and Gimp to have everything be intuitive. Whatever you choose, you will have to put in some time to learn the keyboard shortcuts.
People leaving positive comments seem all to be using gimp for 20 years. That makes sense, since they don’t realise they suffer from Stockholm syndrome
I've been using gimp the last 24 years, and I never look back to MSPaint. Which by the way doesn't exist on Linux. Who cares about Windows these days, anyways? Everybody is nagging about "switch to Linux"!! Already done, by all supernatural powers!
11:48 I think it's a little bit unfair to do a video like this [in regards to gimp] when we are actively in a release candidate season and also no one uses gimp... Krita has all of those things. It would be really cool if you did something like this with KDE's Krita.
"Less capable" In some ways, yes; in other ways, more capable. "harder to use" Unlikely. Photoshop is *extremely complex* but of course if you have used it for years you become accustomed to its quirks. Why would you EVER use "unsharp mask" when you want to sharpen a photo? Photoshop hearkens back to film and lithography language and methods. GIMP (or Corel PhotoPaint) do not; they were born in the computer world. But in the *film world* you had to make a *mask* and sharpening a photo required a mask. In the computer world, it's simple; you just sharpen! But it can still be better at times to sharpen only certain areas, and The GIMP can do that too.
Many of those editing tools you have available, Gimp toolbox included, are there out of film techniques. Even their names describe said film techniques.
There are lots of different sharpening algorithms, unsharp mask is a specific one. Photoshop has several of them (under a category called Sharpen) and even though Gimp only has one they still call it "Sharpen (Unsharp Mask)" so you know what it is. It's an industry standard technique with specific properties and controls because of the way it works, so it helps to use its name, that's why it's stuck around btw the "mask" isn't about selecting an area of the image to work with, it works by blurring (unsharpening) an inverted copy of the image, and then blending that back into the original (this is the masking part) to enhance contrast around the edges. You're creating bright and dark halos on either side of the edge that look weird when they're too intense - but if you dial in the size and the intensity right (and some versions let you control the dark and light halos separately) you can get a great result that's fine-tuned for the image and the medium you're working with That's why it's there and why people use it over (say) Photoshop's basic "sharpen" algorithm, which is an alternative that's quick and simple and nice for beginners. Gimp may call its only option "sharpen" but it is still an Unsharp Mask filter with all the complexity that entails, there's no easy approachable version available
@@cactustactics "It's an industry standard technique with specific properties and controls" That's my point. Photoshop is intended for people that *work in the industry* which, long after photo lithography has ceased to be a thing, still uses the lingo or language. Many things exist, and still exist, that are simply not part of GIMP's market. "Dot gain" for instance, a thing that must be taken into account preparing an image for offset printing; how much dot gain depends on the specific paper and ink one is going to be using. It is impossible, or at least unwise, to attempt a large-ish area of pure white or black. But images intended for viewing on a computer monitor can have huge areas of pure black; it still isn't such a good idea to have totally blown out highlights.
@@thomasmaughan4798 everyone uses the term Unsharp Mask, because it's a standard term. Photoshop uses it, Gimp uses it - your other example (Corel Photopaint) apparently does too. It's a standard tool that's still in use in digital workflows, there's nothing outdated about it Photoshop is and aims to be an industry standard with advanced tools, yeah - that's not a bad thing. Neither is trying to keep things simple. But Photoshop is the one covering both bases in your example, with basic "just do it" Sharpen filter and more complex and powerful tools like USM. Gimp ONLY has USM. If you want to argue that Gimp is less technical and more friendly to beginners you picked a bad example, you seem to have the two programs mixed up here
I’m a little confused. GIMP’s primary sharpening filter is called Sharpen (Unsharp Mask). GIMP’s Blur/Sharpen tool leaves an enormous amount to be desired (as does Photoshop’s Sharpen tool). Unsharp Mask is named after a traditional technique, but it uses Gaussian Blur to mask inside on-the-fly edge masks, so there’s a sense to it. These two programs grew up during very similar timelines. (Technically, Photoshop is only five years older than GIMP.)
I dont understand why GIMP doesn't use the same basic keyboard commands as PS. Adobe is a stuck pig waiting for war to be waged on it. Look at how great KiCAD is and the inroads its made on Pads and Altium.
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The last version of Photoshop that I used was version 7 on Windows XP. I switched to GIMP and haven't looked back. Mostly because I hate Abobe's subscription model. I absolutely hate the direction tech companies have been going in the past decade. Planned obsolesces, dumbing down, subscriptions, telemetry, etc. I want to go back in time...
that is my story too.
Photoshop CS6 was the last one purchaseable but i keep CS2 around for reasons that they patched out the license server check and they can't take that one away.
Used Photoshop CS5, was disgusted by the new Adobe subscription model, tried Gimp a few days, was disgusted by the software, uninstalled it and hacked Photoshop instead.
Today I'm no more a broke student so I am a very happy user of Affinity Photo.
Why not just download PS from torrents?
I bought a used copy of CS3 and then used the s/n to download the version that doesn't care about the authorisation server. It means I'm stuck with OS 10.9.5 forever but computers are so cheap now I just use different machines for different tasks.
gimp(and darktable) badly needs that 'blender 2.8' moment
Spot on.
I think Darktable less so
Darktable needs tweaks, not a revolution.
yep been wanting to see that
What happened in blender 2.8 again?
GIMP _could_ stand to learn from e.g. Inkscape's UX though....
I transitioned from Microsoft Windows to Linux in 2009-2010, taught myself to use GIMP and Inkscape, and have never looked back. Both are available for $0.00 and allow me to do everything that I need to do, including commercial work, photo restoration, and Web site design, and maintenance.
That is how it worked for me too. More to say. Im gratefull to community and Im ready to pay for GIMP.
10€ month for photophobia plus lightroom for someone who earns mo eyes with it, it's not even comparable
Great thing about GIMP is that it allows the ferociously interested young minds who have not touched Photoshop but love to tinker with images a path to get involved in imaginative editing. I have no use for it, but watched the whole presentation just for the calming effect of Deke's voice ;) It's a noble thing you do for learners Deke, extending yourself out into the wilderness like this, with all the same grace & style and subtle comedy of a Photoshop tutorial.
Just use photopea
I do love him but I knew I need the tutorial just to make it a little bit more useable
"ferociously interested young minds"
The kind of misuse of adjectives we'd expect from a gimpster, who uses a program that requires tutorials on how to perform the most mundane actions.
@@alphaforce6998 Photoshop has relied on decades worth of these kinds of tutorials on YT and in books before that. Adobes UI is not any more intuitive its just been accepted for longer.
Who can afford photoshop these days, you would have to mow a lot of lawns a month to pay the subscription fees.
We have now dynamic filters! I’ve wanted these for ages and they’re coming to GIMP 3! Though I still agree that Gimp, as a lot of free and libre software, has a lot of UX issues. It’s sad that there aren’t more UX designers in open source projects. Blender being a notable exception of course, it had the most legendary glow up the open source community has ever seen.
I used to teach photoshop but photoshop would not allow an education version at the time. As I don't teach students to pirate software I moved to GIMP. 10 years later I am a total open source convert. I love GIMP and also Blender, Inkscape, Darktable and Audacity. I note that if text has been rasterized and you want to edit mostly you just select text icon and click on rasterized text it will remove shadow and edit text. Then put drop shadow back on. Thanks for video
Hi, I'm an indie game developer and I'm looking for a simple free program with which I can edit TGA images.
Do you know a progam that is not so complicate like GIMP and IS commercialy free to use ?
Thx for the info, and my pleasure!
@@paluxyl.8682 There’s lot out there. But GIMP shoots high, and given some time, is not all that difficult to use.
@@dekeNow I have installed many years ago many times GIMP and it was almost an overkill. And if I remember correct was it over 1GB big.
Later was Photofiltre my favorite free program, but only for private projects.
GIMP 3.0 RC is available for download already. "Adjustment layers" included.
You should include full disclosure that it's actually NOT ready.
From the site: "So, what exactly is a “release candidate” (RC)? A release candidate is something that might be ready to be GIMP 3.0, but we want the larger community to test it first and report any problems they find."
@@johnsmith1474 I wouldn't want to scare away newcomers, the RC disclaimer is hard to miss on the site. GIMP 3.0 can use the exposure.
No updates can save GIMP unless it's a complete rebuild from scratch.
@@braddavis5802 A lot of it has been rebuilt from scratch. It has its flaws and it has its strengths. I've been using GIMP to edit photos and even for photo manipulation for at least 15 years now and it has gotten better over the years but compared to, say, Affinity Photo or Photoshop it is not even close.
But it is still capable, even now using the 2.x variety it is very capable. On top of it all it is free, unlike Affinity Photo and Photoshop.
@@braddavis5802 It's like 20 years behind Photoshop or even Affinity.
Photopea is also free and is almost to the level of Photoshop, being pretty much a clone of it. And yeah, available literally on everything since it runs in a browser.
Absolutely no reason to bother with GIMP.
By the way, the small text messages at the bottom of the main window informs you how to use the tools.. just read it and it will give you the necessary steps and modifier keys.
I had little faith in free software that competed with the 'big boys'.. Fortunately, every one of them are absolutely incredible for a completely free product. I use Blender, Audacity and Gimp/Inkscape.. I've used them for over a Decade now. I use to use Pro Tools and Photoshop. After trying these, I've never had a second thought about it... Harder? No! Things are just set up different. It's ALL there and nothing is 'harder'.
Have to say, I expected GIMP to be harder than it is. Mostly earnest and promising.
I used GIMP for several years before switching to Affinity Photo. GIMP was a very capable program, but for me Affinity represented a more user friendly package at a very reasonable price. I haven't tried GIMP again since switching to Affinity, so I'm not sure how much it's improved.
Watching this video reaffirms my belief that the UX design of GIMP could be improved so much more. I do appreciate GIMP for being able to export .ico files, but I would love it if the developers accept suggestions for UX changes.
used gimp for all my photoshop need back in middle school, but when i had to suddenly learn a encyclopedia full of keyboard shortcuts for the smallest things i would do with just a mouse click, i switched to Krita.
Like really, if you need a cheatsheet next to you to zoom or recenter, fill select, switch layers etc than you know the program got too complex under the hood.
So true. Many people keep pushing the use of shortcut keys as they speed up your work flow. That may be true if the only piece of software you use is regularly i:. say Photoshop. Sure you can soon remember the most used keys. But, in my case, I use about 9 main programs. No way am I going to be able to remember which key(s) do what in what program. Sure I remember a few of the most used commands in each, but, most of the time, it's easier to go to the Menu/or icon.
Lack of dynamic layers - your example with shadows or also letters contours and other effects was the main reason i prefered to use very Old PS CS1 instead of gimp (which i loved Anyway) 8years ago. Also lack of proper CMYK support/conversion was alo another reason. And the fact that after all these years they still havent been able to implement these features proove that gimp is still not a serious graphic app.
I have been using GIMP for 15+ years and very happily too. Can't wait for v3.0 to be released after the RC has been tested.
I started using Gimp 15-20 years ago. For me, it's intuitive and Photoshop is odd.
Some good tips. Thanks. Been using GIMP for years. It has way more features than I will ever need.
Tiny icons by default must be a Windows thing. Here in Unix/BSD/Linux land, we have desktop environments that allow for custom auto-scaling for high-res displays -- makes life instantly easy by default.
I've used GIMP for years as a total amateur casual. I'm learning a lot of tricks in the first few minutes to just simply set the program up so thanks for that.
One of the only things I had changed before was adding a keyboard shortcut to "Paste as new layer".
GIMP a puzzle based image manipulator
Graphical Image Manipulation Puzzle?
LOL! Great description. It's the only image I've ever used. I guess I like puzzles.
😂 Hey, if you like puzzles!
GIMP rocked my world since 2003-ish. Grokking the GIMP was the best tutorial ever and likely still valid today in terms of the concepts.
Are the tools clunky? Yes. But it's also a strong point in that things don't jump around and change all the time. It's doing what I expect from it and with some patience I can create a masterpiece.
Stuff all the other exuberantly expensive software out there.
Around 12 years ago I created a music video for a singer only using Gimp and Final Cut. I had to crea snow for a scene that was recorded in front of a Green Screen. I've been using Gimp for more than 15 years now and I'm not planning to switch to other Pic Editors anytime soon.
The GIMP is part of my image editing portfolio and has been for 20 years or more. It's fast, easy, does what I need it to do.
But not what I need it to do.
@@Squant "{But not what I need it to do."
Well there's a surprise ;-)
I haven't used photoshop in over 20 years lol, GIMP is all I've ever known, I have no idea if it's better....but I think it's great!
I actually prefer the interfaces of both MS PowerPoint and GIMP to those of Adobe Photoshop, Affinity Photo/Designer, Krita, etc. To each his own.
Yes gimp might look complicated,old and absolutely outdated at first glance; but once you get used to it it's kind of like riding a riding a manual car: you go fast and know the tools automatically. I personally like the fact the interface stays the same each year because like that you don't have to keep learning how to use new tools and features (that instead sometimes happens with Photoshop).Yes I know it might take 120 steps just to curve a text around a circle,but once you get used to using gimp it all just gets automatic. Last of all I think the fact you can literally run it even on grandma's shitbox without much lag is really nice,and the fact that it doesn't ask you to connect to the internet every now and then to check if you're paying you monthly load of cash to Adobe.
"Yes I know it might take 120 steps just to curve a text around a circle"
Bitmap editors aren't designed for this task. It's amazing if you can do it at all.
These are some good points!
Deke! You are hilarious! Thank you for showing us GIMP! I found out about it from your Newsletter and subbed here instantly while laughing at your descriptions! You’ve been doing a great job for years bro bro!
Thank you!!
I haven't used photoshop in so long - I forget what the pro's of using it are.
IIRC, you can use the numpad + and - keys with the zoom functionality as well.
You can, but he's probly using a laptop that hasn't got a one.
When I came across with Affinity Photo through your channel and tried the trail version and on this black Friday, I purchased the whole suit. I was regretted too much that I just wasted time with GIMP and Photoshop.
The reason the shortcuts seem weird to Photoshop users is that Photoshop is wrong and their minds have been poisoned! I've used GIMP since v2.2 in 2004. I'm trying to like Affinity but not really feeling it yet.
Gimp is respected and king in its own sphere. It's my first program. But I saw your Affinity photo tutorial and shifted, but I will never delete GIMP.
Yes you will. For the record in what sphere is GIMP King?
"Respected", are you sure?
At the intersection of free and usable mostly that's where it came blender is free and oh my God I need the college course
Oh, cool-good news!
I have Gimp, Photoshop, Affinity, and Krita, and I always go back to Gimp, even in professional applications. The interface is better and more intuitive, the menus are more organized, and there is no AI bloat. Trying to do the same things in Photoshop takes me ages longer, and even in a workstation, Photoshop frequently crashes for me, even trying to do relatively simple things.
I am also a huge fan of GIMP and Inkscape over Photoshop and Illustrator. I use Linux as my daily driver, so it was the obvious choice for me and theres never been anything I can't do in GIMP/Inkscape. If there is, I just write a Python script to do it myself instead of paying for a subscription.
Same here - DTP and everything GIMP (and yeah you just send your monitor RGB profile along your images / pdf's to the printing shop - no need to send them CMYC) ...
I can see this if you started with GIMP early on, but coming from starting on Photoshop(Version 7 I believe it was), it’s incredibly difficult to reroute your memory muscle, and it also looks like the UI was designed back when Windows XP was still the current OS. I know some people love the old UI, simply for nostalgia reasons, but I think even photoshop is a bit behind in that area.
Also, there’s just a ton of workarounds you have to do that take like 2 seconds to do in Photoshop vs in GIMO, just like the layers and drop shadow text issue he showed in he video.
However, considering Adobe’s god awful subscription systems and tier pricing, and more outrages to me personally, it’s recent inclusion of the “AI” bullshit, which is basically just a collection of millions of artists stolen work put into commercially bankrupt corporate tooling for people with zero talent…I’d take anything over an Adobe product these days.
No using real software has rotted your brain. I respect the software but the UI is terrible.
The thing is, developing a drawing program is quite difficult, especially with little to no funding. Things like UX is just not the highest priority, compared to functionality and stability. Not to say that gimp itself is very featureful, although I find it quite performant and stable, especially compared to photoshop.
Gimp is amazing software, has been giving pro editing capabilities to people for free for many years. The upcoming 3.0 version is gonna be even better. Fair enough, it's got a funny name, open source is not there to impress managers and suit and tie people, so...
I'm about halfway through this video and I really, really understand that you prefer paying a monthly fee for Photoshop. I don't know why that's my problem or why I would subscribe to your Patreon to listen to you complaining. Have a lovely day.
🤔 Just my two cents, friend.
GIMP still Gimping along. As ever _the_ prime example of why you pair engineers with designers.
I use GIMP and Krita, mainly for 3D materials.
GIMP is quite powerful when writing custom scripts to automate work.
However these days I just use python from the terminal to do large batch jobs.
Okay, so what you were doing with the text, is you wanted two layers. Putting the effects on the original layer applies it to that layer. What you could do is duplicate the text layer, make the second layer transparent, but apply the drop shadow effect to it. This is similar to the legacy option, only you can then get a preview to it. You can still edit the text layer.
In your image, you can have multiple layers which aren't switched on, so what I do when I am working is I have a number of inactive layers for where I do my critical blocking of the image. Duplicate those layers into something tangible.
As for GIMP, it's open source, so if there is anything people say the program cannot do, your more then welcome to join and become a contributor, upload code commits and see if the community want to adopt it. This is what is great about open source, and most the people who work on paid projects like Photoshop would contribute code to a program like this. I mean, there are very good reasons to pay for proprietary software, if you want to work at the cutting edge, you will pay. I pay for JetBrains, big cash. I slammed my fist down on the table and said that I want this software. We all have software we will pay for because we know this is how we will make our money.
The great thing is that a lot of these tools are good for newbies, they require dedication to learn. A true sandbox.
That is one heck of a workaround. But all points taken.
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you can also zoom with the scroll wheel
Gimp to me when I'm on Linux is like a replacement for MS Paint on Windows. I don't daily drive with it, but if I need to do a quick tweak to a picture or setup something to print I use Gimp to do it. For everything else, it's Krita natively and Clip Studio Paint in Wine.
Photoshop? What is Photoshop? Some kind of alcoholic drink? Probably yes, because I could never afford it. Gimp has been my one and only love.
I would love if you could test drive Krita for a day or two. I'm curious how does it hold up to Gimp / and obviously Photoshop
On my list!
I never used Photoshop have always used Gimp since the early 2000s.
You are obviously not overly familiar with Gimp. The method you described to create a drop shadow is too complex, There is a straightforward way to do that. Your computer must be very slow if you are expecting it to take a few minutes to render the selected image using the foreground select tool. This takes a matter of seconds on my PC using Windows. Sizing control buttons etc is easy through Edit Preferences and, of course, is all personal choice to sizes of icons and shortcut keys you want to configure etc. I like my icons and text medium-sized and that suits me fine, you can also select to have the tools panel with colour icons similar to Photo Shop. Gimp 3.01 is now available and has many new features. But overall your video is good and informative for someone who is familiar with Gimp but would be a little daunting for a newcomer to photo editing. Gimp does have a rather steep learning curve but that is due to it having so many functions, even I who have been using Gimp for many years find new features that I didn't realize existed. Gimp is capable of doing most things that Photo Shop can do and Photo Shop is capable of doing most things that Gimp can do. I was an avid user of Photoshop until it became subscription only and you can no longer own a copy, this all comes down to greed, so I simply refuse to use Photo Shop.Thankfully, Gimp exists and is absolutley free and is truly Photo Shops biggest rival and competitor.
"Gimp does have a rather steep learning curve "
Easy peasy compared to the colossal learning curve of Photoshop (or Illustrator or anything Adobe).
@@thomasmaughan4798 I have both applications and I don't find Photoshop more difficult to learn. Both are great and do the same thing for me albeit using different methods to achieve a similar result. I am annoyed with Photoshop for not letting users purchase the software any longer. I guess the subscription model suits some users but the option to purchase outright should still be available.
What I show is how long it takes at a reasonable resolution on very fast machine.
Can you import an image from a scanner with Gimp?
Yes. SANE, XSANE and xscanimage can work in GIMP for acquisition.
I won't deny though, in the end I often just batch scan and then post-process in GIMP rather than going via GIMP directly.
Someone said that Gimp was mostly created for programmers with their own thought flow. That it can be used by graphic design artists seem to be an afterthought.
There are days when the same can be said of Photoshop. 😂
I use GIMP for like 10 years. I used photoshop back then, before. Im not pro. I just do like photography, retouched some for myself and did some pics for products sold by companies on ebay, and other online marketplaces. What I really miss from Photoshop is magic wand, that helped a lot. There is no such thing in GIMP. But I need to learn pro functions of it. Because magic wand is non-pro. What a joy to watch real pro on youtube in the sea of millions of absolute crap videos! Subscribed.
Say what you will, but GIMP destroys the Magic Wand tool. (Watch my video.)
@dekeNow I watched it. I see the functions of fast selecting of needed area of image works in a pro-way, you need to do not so many clicks to obtain very good result. I need to learn it.
Photoshop is incomprehensible, so I can’t imagine this one.
Photoshopping is for people who don't know how to Gimp. In the beginning, it was free as in speech, but you still have to pay for the beer.
I prefer to use one of the Photoshop clones that is a web page like Pixlr, or Photopea, instead of having to deal with Gimp.
Good to know! (Jotting that down.)
Also, although not a 1:1 replacement, Krita is a good alternative to GIMP. Which one is more suitable for someone is hard to say; just take them both out for a spin and make your own opinion.
GIMP works similar to how Paint Shop Pro worked. If I wasn't using a free version of Photoshop, I'd use it.
Is Paint Shop Pro still a thing? For modern PC's I mean. I used it a lot when God was a boy. Liked it.
@@Ralph2 Haven't used it since the days of Jasc. It is still around, as a Corel product now.
Paint Shop Pro is still around, and it now has a lot of AI features that Affinity Photo still lacks. But Affinity Photo's support for non-destructive editing is much better. Maybe even better than Photoshop.
@@sinz52 AI doesn't interest me in the slightest. It's for people with no talent. I learned to develop film when I was 14, in 1976. I had a darkroom for many years up until 2010. I got on OK without AI.
@@sinz52 Thank you.
Really good "intro", and some things that I haven't thought about in 25 years of using it!
Just the idea of going to the "view" menu...
Thx from 🇨🇦 in 🇩🇪
My pleasure!
Gimp’s UI/UX is the reason why photoshop lives.
When I used to teach I used Gimp because it was free. Coming from Photoshop you'll be constantly annoyed unless you use it for a while and stop using Photoshop. I now have Affinity because even though its paid there no subscription. I still prefer Photoshop but I can get by.
this is what happens when it's only devs working on this and no one is an actual artist to guide the ux and UI of it all
Gimp has taken just close to 30 years to develop so don't talk rubbish. I use both Gimp and PS and both can do the same thing. How many programs have you developed?
I don't care!
It does 95% of what I need, and I dropped PS as soon as it went to subscription, and bought Affinity, and upgrade to 2.x, but GIMP seems to be my go-to, because it works ok, and doesn't need a monster learning curve.
UI could be different, maybe "better", but if everyone contributed just one month of PS subscription cost, imagine the amount of love GIMP could get!!
@@johnrobinson1020 They are not wrong, though photoshop may have similar issues. My first few weeks of using gimp to try to do a project i was working on were torture. I hated it so much. Now i use it every now and then and i know better how to search the web to give me details on how to do things in gimp, but i could have choked the makers when i first started.
@@johnrobinson1020 honestly that's sorta the point, 30 years of gradual development from contributors makes it hard to design and enforce a unified UI/UX, even if you have dedicated interface designers taking part (which I'm not sure they do, I don't see anyone credited for it). It would be a lot of work even if they were there from the beginning - so overhauling the existing application and all the different bits that have been bolted to it over the years would be a huge undertaking
It's not a criticism, just the reality - they don't have the resources to do that kind of thing, and it does explain a lot of the awkward stuff. It's a solid program and a fantastic resource but the experience could definitely be improved, hopefully 3.0 has let them start fresh in a few ways (and fixed the dang tiny icons, no not those ones)
@@cactustactics So many dang tiny icons.
Love GIMP. The only one issue to me - that made lately black interface, with icons one needs to look for with microscope or pointing back space telescope!
Been using the GIMP consistently since 2002 (actually started using it back in 1999). Install G'MIC plugin, and, in many respects, the GIMP is superior to PS, IMO. Also, good to grab Resynthesizer and Mathmap plugins as well as Shellout (used to run a few PS plugins that PSPI cannot handle; it launches a 3rd party program that is more friendly with 8bfs and transers the result back into the GIMP) and User Filter for other types of PS plugins. Yes; GIMP itself is useful for most folk, but the extra tweaks makes the GIMP astronomically better, imo. :)
Great to hear!
very cool deke. thanks
My pleasure!
GIMP doesn't stand alone. Krita is also an excellent Open Source project. I argue Krita is superior to GIMP when it comes to digital art.
That was fun. Also learned something new - as a gimp user. Thanks!
Excellent!
... non destructive editing is coming : th-cam.com/video/9gUJrDIllTg/w-d-xo.html
It's true, you can't beat free. Don't pay for Photoshop. Just find another way to use it 😉
I haven't had photoshop on my PC for over 10 years. I do use GIMP for whatever rare meme edits I do, but I've given up hope that they'll ever make it convenient or intuitive. That's just not what FOSS developers care about.
I have been a GIMP user since 1998.
An even easier way to zoom in and out in GIMP is ctrl and mousewheel, so much easier than photoshop
It's Alt-scroll wheel in Ps. But thx for the tip!
Yeah, it's best to give big corpo Adobe full control of my content so that they can train the AI that will do my work pretty soon. Oh, I forgot to mention the "you'll own nothing and be happy" future that Adobe loves.
I create art and put it in production from business cards to billboards to stone monuments to interior signage of all kinds. We do everything from traffic signs to bronze statues to post cards. For over 30 years I have used all the applications for these things and my swiss army knife is CorelDraw Graphics Suite and I prefer ver X8. I work everything full scale up to 150 feet. For speed and total control of output both vector and raster I have seen no equal. I output machine ready .dxf for CNC operations and print ready files for large or grandformat printers of various kinds in the same application. If I use Inkscape/GIMP or Krita it is for file processing workaround or something but if I had to use them I for production I could but it would suck. If I had to use Adobe products I would just quit.
A vote for Corel!
I have used gimp for years now but gimp is not a competitor to photoshop. Sop has more tools as it should with all the developers on it. Gimp is it's own beast but I like it because the devs do this for opensource and it is great for no outlay, but I do send the devs some money as a thank you.
Good for you!
GIMP is hard to use and used to be more like Photoshop but now operates every way opposite of Photoshop. I tried to do a simple crop in GIMP, once, and it took me way too long to get what I wanted than would have happened in Photoshop.
I tried Gimp years ago and couldn't deal with all those stupid floating windows all around the screen. The UI seems to have improved a little bit, but it's still too messy to attract old Photoshop users. They should straightforward copy Photoshop in all they can, to the border of copyright infringement, including all shortcodes.
Well, it is worth mentioning that you ever used MacPaint back in the 80s, the first Photoshop felt like less new program and more update. Long live Bill Atkinson!
Good old GIMP. Along with Animation Shop from Jasc, my early 2000s web page creations certainly had flair! 😂
If you work on an old computer like mine, beware that using Foreground Selection would crash your computer.
This does not surprise me. It’s doing an awful lot with what it has to work with.
I could never get on with Gimp. Trying to do the same thing on Gimp takes like 10 times longer than anything else I've tried.
we get the layer effects in the current alpha but well done on the video! :)
Do we?! Excellent news, thx!
I tried GIMP at the times when everybody switched to Krita.
For photo editing, in particular lighting etc. I prefer darktable
Oh I remember when I needed drop shadow. It was very slow and clunky in Krita, and in Gimp there is just no drop shadow.. There was a plugin for that.. that was just outdated and abandoned. (since I've googled and found that old plugin, I presume at that time Gimp didn't had that filter effect that in this video)
Reinforcing your take: Drop shadows seem to be a highly controversial topic in this thread. Not knocking GIMP, but again, Ps was rocking the drop shadows back in the “chops” days, and automated them the same year Friends tried to remain relevant by devoting an episode to Hootie and the Blowfish. 🙄 I believe the plan is to update GIMP shadows in 3.2.
@@dekeNow it still very clunky, as any other free linux based software. Like I'm too old and rigid to learn something new, I've tried Blender, but after 3dsmax it's just unbearably bad, even if it's actually become much much better than version of Blender for same times as 3dsmax 5/6 as example
As an old coder, I can highly recommend to Gimp developers, tolerating the extra fuss of coding in a status message for every single operation 😁 Also helps with debugging 😉 You can even code it into a subroutine!
GIMP would be so much better if it just used the same damn keyboard shortcuts as Photoshop. I have no idea where anything is in either program, I just know what I need to hit in Photoshop to do the thing that does the stuff I want.
Im basically flying blind in GIMP.
That is so funny. I use Ps shortcuts all the time for commands I can barely locate.
I have both GIMP and Photoshop CS6, I refuse to pay monthly for something I can never own or must rely on the "cloud" to use. Photoshop and Illustrator are wonderful programs but are nothing but a black hole you throw money into every month just to use, no thank you. Gimp is free and does what I need it to do. If Adobe offered a stand alone version of PS again, I would buy it but until then, I wouldn't give Adobe the time of day.
Well, Adobe does offer a mostly-Ps-only subscription. That said, I personally think it's too damn expensive. (Should be $4.99/mo, but hey, what do I know?)
GIMP compared to Photoshop:
Both have nearly the same capabilities, however like appliances purchased from stores GIMP is partially dissembled, and Photoshop is fully assembled straight out of the box. I think I rather pay for the appliance fully assembled instead of assembling it myself.
Most unnaceptable thing in 2024 soon to be 2025 is Manually selecting parts of an Image by slowly drawing out around the edges of your subject. Caveman stuff, major timesink. Affinity and PS have great smart selection. Rest of GIMP I could live with...probably...But not that,
I like GIMP, but it is not the "only" true alternative. I believe Krita is well loved.
I keep hearing Krita. Gotta visit that one!
To be honest I don;t know photoshop and when I had to use it it was just as unintuitive to me as Gimp is to someone used to photoshop.
There's just too many functions in both Photoshop and Gimp to have everything be intuitive.
Whatever you choose, you will have to put in some time to learn the keyboard shortcuts.
Thank you sir.
My pleasure!
@@dekeNow 👍
Gimp is not a replacement for Photoshop. Krita is. Use Krita.
Free sometimes requires a little more brains. The important thing is that it is free as in speech, not just beer.
I’ll gladly take Adobe’s despicable and evil subscription model over this abomination any day, thank you.
Wait, it that irony? 😁
People leaving positive comments seem all to be using gimp for 20 years. That makes sense, since they don’t realise they suffer from Stockholm syndrome
I’m thumbs-upping this b/c it’s funny. But GIMP is free as a bird, which is actually the *opposite* of identifying with your kidnapper!
Need a selection tool that only selects without changing anything.
I literally still use a 12 year old version that has less features but is more usable for pixel manipulation. Gimp has a terrible brush system now.
finally i found Deke McClelland
Yay! Thx!
I've been using gimp the last 24 years, and I never look back to MSPaint. Which by the way doesn't exist on Linux. Who cares about Windows these days, anyways? Everybody is nagging about "switch to Linux"!! Already done, by all supernatural powers!
yup.
11:48 I think it's a little bit unfair to do a video like this [in regards to gimp] when we are actively in a release candidate season and also no one uses gimp...
Krita has all of those things. It would be really cool if you did something like this with KDE's Krita.
I’m hearing you!
"Less capable"
In some ways, yes; in other ways, more capable.
"harder to use"
Unlikely. Photoshop is *extremely complex* but of course if you have used it for years you become accustomed to its quirks.
Why would you EVER use "unsharp mask" when you want to sharpen a photo? Photoshop hearkens back to film and lithography language and methods. GIMP (or Corel PhotoPaint) do not; they were born in the computer world. But in the *film world* you had to make a *mask* and sharpening a photo required a mask. In the computer world, it's simple; you just sharpen! But it can still be better at times to sharpen only certain areas, and The GIMP can do that too.
Many of those editing tools you have available, Gimp toolbox included, are there out of film techniques. Even their names describe said film techniques.
There are lots of different sharpening algorithms, unsharp mask is a specific one. Photoshop has several of them (under a category called Sharpen) and even though Gimp only has one they still call it "Sharpen (Unsharp Mask)" so you know what it is. It's an industry standard technique with specific properties and controls because of the way it works, so it helps to use its name, that's why it's stuck around
btw the "mask" isn't about selecting an area of the image to work with, it works by blurring (unsharpening) an inverted copy of the image, and then blending that back into the original (this is the masking part) to enhance contrast around the edges. You're creating bright and dark halos on either side of the edge that look weird when they're too intense - but if you dial in the size and the intensity right (and some versions let you control the dark and light halos separately) you can get a great result that's fine-tuned for the image and the medium you're working with
That's why it's there and why people use it over (say) Photoshop's basic "sharpen" algorithm, which is an alternative that's quick and simple and nice for beginners. Gimp may call its only option "sharpen" but it is still an Unsharp Mask filter with all the complexity that entails, there's no easy approachable version available
@@cactustactics "It's an industry standard technique with specific properties and controls"
That's my point. Photoshop is intended for people that *work in the industry* which, long after photo lithography has ceased to be a thing, still uses the lingo or language.
Many things exist, and still exist, that are simply not part of GIMP's market. "Dot gain" for instance, a thing that must be taken into account preparing an image for offset printing; how much dot gain depends on the specific paper and ink one is going to be using. It is impossible, or at least unwise, to attempt a large-ish area of pure white or black. But images intended for viewing on a computer monitor can have huge areas of pure black; it still isn't such a good idea to have totally blown out highlights.
@@thomasmaughan4798 everyone uses the term Unsharp Mask, because it's a standard term. Photoshop uses it, Gimp uses it - your other example (Corel Photopaint) apparently does too. It's a standard tool that's still in use in digital workflows, there's nothing outdated about it
Photoshop is and aims to be an industry standard with advanced tools, yeah - that's not a bad thing. Neither is trying to keep things simple. But Photoshop is the one covering both bases in your example, with basic "just do it" Sharpen filter and more complex and powerful tools like USM. Gimp ONLY has USM. If you want to argue that Gimp is less technical and more friendly to beginners you picked a bad example, you seem to have the two programs mixed up here
I’m a little confused. GIMP’s primary sharpening filter is called Sharpen (Unsharp Mask). GIMP’s Blur/Sharpen tool leaves an enormous amount to be desired (as does Photoshop’s Sharpen tool). Unsharp Mask is named after a traditional technique, but it uses Gaussian Blur to mask inside on-the-fly edge masks, so there’s a sense to it. These two programs grew up during very similar timelines. (Technically, Photoshop is only five years older than GIMP.)
The worst thing about GIMP is that it is so awful I have to keep paying Adobe.
Try Krita instead.
So, if you were looking for a free Photoshop, why didn't you try Krita which is way more of a Photoshop-like application?
I’m hearing Krita.
with things like photopea and krita i wouldnt bother looking at gimp
I dont understand why GIMP doesn't use the same basic keyboard commands as PS.
Adobe is a stuck pig waiting for war to be waged on it.
Look at how great KiCAD is and the inroads its made on Pads and Altium.