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How I compare the Fox Float DPX2 to the DPS and X2!!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2018
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Let’s hit the trail and discuss this thing! For context, I’ll be comparing this to the Fox Float X2 and to the Float DPS.
Climbing: riders may set the blue compression adjustment lever in either open, mid, or firm settings. Fully open is often the best setting for my Ibis bikes. On many other bikes, the mid-setting is great for trail climbs that aren’t too technical, and firm is great on pavement or gravel.
The DPS has the same type of adjustment, and I’d say the DPX2 loses nothing to the DPS on the uphills. The big X2 has a climb switch, so it’s either way firm or fully open. The open is great on bikes such as the DW Link equipped Ibis models, where minimal damping is required to avoid bobbing. However, on bikes with poor pedaling characteristics, the X2 will present some challenges by not having a mid-damping adjustment. I’d say the DPX2 is the best all-around option for a bike that needs to perform well up hill as well as downhill.
On flatter sections of trail that require a lot of pumping to maintain speed, the DPX2 feels great. The volume adjustment is key for getting this right. Since the DPX2 has a larger volume than the DPS, it will require a little more tuning to dial in the correct mid stroke support. With the 10 clicks of low speed compression adjustment the shock can be fairly precisely dialed in to provide enough support for this type of riding. The DPS only has three clicks of adjustment, thus limiting riders in comparison to the DPS. The X2 is a different beast, and I honestly prefer the DPX2 over the X2 for most of these flatter sections of trails. The 2018 and older versions of the X2 require a bit more of an impact to move the shock, and they feel like they are valved more firmly. This can be great on aggressive descents, but it can be a little harsh on regular, flatter trails.
Descending: Let’s break this down into three categories: cornering, jumping, and smashing.
Cornering: the DPX2 corners great as well, and those 10 clicks of damping adjustment should provide a precise enough adjustment to avoid an overly harsh feeling for even the lightest of riders. The X2 can be a tad over damped for really light riders, but it’s not a huge issue.
Jumping: a good shock for jumping has a consistent feel, meaning no surprises on steep lips or on flat landings. Beyond that, it needs enough high-speed compression to keep from bottoming on both the take off and the landing, and enough progressively to similarly avoid bottoming. The DPX2 does great for this. The little Float DPS lacks high speed compression adjustment and can therefore bottom on both take offs and bigger landings. The X2 jumps great, and has plenty of adjustment. However, there is the possibility of adjusting the X2 to be too firm and creating a mushy feel that’s hard to get off the ground.
Smashing: I have not pushed the DPX2 to the extremes of temperature, meaning the longest descent I did was only about 2100 feet, or 700 meters. For something truly long and gnarly, the X2 will always have the advantage. Not only can it be dialed in very precisely, but it has much more oil volume than the DPX2. The little DPS can overheat pretty quickly. That overheating is caused by tons of really aggressive hits forcing that small amount of oil through the damping orifice really quickly.
In conclusion, the DPX2 is a great all-around shock. I would recommend it for anyone who considers themselves a trail or enduro rider. The DPS is indeed lighter, and still feels great in many situations. The DPS is cheaper as well. For someone riding more rolling terrain, on a shorter travel bike, and happily using a 34 or 32mm stanchion fork, the DPS will be just fine.
For someone who primarily is concerned with downhill performance, and who needs that high speed rebound adjustment, then the X2 is the way to go. If I rode bike parks a ton, or if my bike was real long travel, then I’d stay with the X2. On my ~150mm down to 130mm travel Ibis bikes, the DPX2 is an awesome shock, and I would gladly recommend it to any of my closest friends.
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This is an awesome video about the nuances of the different shocks under review. It all makes much more sense now.
Thanks Adrian!!!
Thanks for helping me make a logical choice for my new bike set up! Going to rock the DPX2!
Hey thank you sir for the info i'm upgrading soon that helps me a lot . I just put a fox factor 34 float fork on and love it .
We done man. ....I have just bought 2019 niner rdo rip 9 and it has the dpx2 this was helpful and saved in my history...😎
Great video, I like the little shock pictures. You should get a video at cutthroat pass, I was there Sunday and it looked like you could find some crazy lines on the side.
This guy's channel is gonna grow, good personality for it, plus he's a good rider
I find the same results as you with the DPX2 while climbing. I have the current rendition of the Pivot Mach6 Carbon with the DW link suspension. I climb in the open position and it really does a good job with hardly any felt bobbing in the rear.
Got this shock on my HD4. One thing to note is that it takes quite a bit more PSI than a 'normal' shock to set sag properly. Normally you'd go geared up rider weight in PSI which would be 180 for me. I had to put in over 200 psi, and yes I cycled the shock every 50 psi per the manual. Once dialed though I'm with Jeff, this shock is pretty awesome, though it should come with the volume spacer kit stock.
My man. Love your videos!!!
Thanks Fernando!
Great video Jeff... Now I want one... Someday 💶🔥
great video thanks for sharing
Great Video! I would love to see you compare the Fox DPX2 to a DVO Topaz Air!
I am new to the air shocks since I had one installed on my Raleigh M-30FS bike for improve performance. When I leave the switch in the middle on my Fox DPS, I have to say that the bike rides like a hard tail bike with no lost of energy for pedaling on flats, uphills and downhills.
Just ordered a DPX2 Factory to replace the DPS Performance on my Giant Trance, I cant wait!
Hey I'm considering the same. Do let me know if there's a noticeable upgrade!
Xh C will do, although I just got an email that shipping is going to be delayed so idk exactly when it will arrive
Matti A. Has it arrived yet? If yes how is it?
Lman Drums The 2020 model (that I ordered) was actually out of stock when I placed the order, their site did not happen to reflect that. I’m now just waiting for a 2021 which should be mid-August. I did however get a Fox 34 Factory Grip2 for the front though, and it performs amazing, way better than the stock 34 Rhythm fork
Matti A. Nice! I ordered a fezzari cascade peak and I’m so excited for it to come! It has a 34 performance elite and a DPS so I was just wondering if I should upgrade to a DPX2
Thanks for sharing bro
Top notch video's Jeff, plus you rip on you lbis mojo3, you ride so smooth and with passion all the way, your a excellent mountain biker and bike mechanic. 🚵♂️🔧🚵🏼♂️🚵🏼♂️🚵🏼♂️
Thanks Chad! That's all Ripmo footage there- Mojo 3 was still shipping back from Durango!
Thanks Jeff. As one who started riding 3 years ago, dialing suspension has been a bit of a mystery for me. Your setup video on the DPX2 helped immensely and good follow up info here as well. Thanks man.
Thank you Joey!
Great review and comparison. I tested the DPX2 head2head with a Topaz T3 on my ION - 15. The DPX2 seems more controlled, but also a bit harsher. The air chamber tuning on the topaz, together with the really plush initial stroke made me keep the Topaz for further experimenting. Both shocks have a good medium setting by the lever, which just adds a little more LC relative to the "open" mode. (so the lever on both is actually useful for more than climbing). Would be great to hear your opinions about the Topaz.
Im running topaz on YT jeffsy and its great shock but since i rode float X2 on my new capra .. mam that shock is on another level
Yeah I got a fox vanilla on my 04 stinky primo... still going to Whistler with it lol
Great vid as usual JKW.
Loved your review (and riding), but missed one thing: quality of compression, especially on square edge hits. My DPS spikes on these hits, even with the compression on the lowest setting. Did you find the same thing and how does the DPX2 compare ?
3:56 whats that thing on your fork and why is it there?
Thanks i am going to change from dps to dpx2 was thinking about x2 but i think its too much adjustement
love the Bellingham
I have a DPS and it gets easily overwhelmed, really want a DPX2...
Great comparison 👍
How much do you weigh? I'm 140lbs with a DPS and am not sure what overwhelmed is.
Just picked up a bike with a dpx2 today. Hoping it doesn’t get overwhelmed in fast rough descents.
hi jeff i have a hd 3 and have been having a really hard time with rear shocks and which one to run im 6' 4" 280 lbs and closer to 300 when geared up do you have any recommendations for which shock i should run on my bike? i live here on the east coast in vt amd ride killington area and our secert trails we have in goshen big hits and super rocky just to give you an idea of what i ride. thanks and cheers.
cheers jeff!
Thanks Mason!
thanks
nice job, looks like a great piece. now what's your opinion for the people who do mostly slow speed tech. where i live avg trail speeds are 5 to 10 mph with techy rock gardens that require constant pedaling.. perhaps that falls into the techy climb performance category you covered?
I switched from the DPS evol on a Hightower to the DPX2 and I actually find it works better in technical climbs. I can put it in the middle compression setting and it sits higher in the travel to prevent pedal strikes while still giving me traction. When I had the DPS in the middle mode it usually felt too stiff in the medium setting. It was fine in the open setting with higher pressure, but then it wasn't as good going down as the DPX2. The DPX2 weighs a bit more but I prefer it for climbing.
Great vid. Just got my dpx2 for my 2019 stumpy. Waiting for the linkage to come in so I can install.
Right on Ryan- I think you'll like that shock!
The advantage of the x2 on the down hill is that it is much more plush, and really absorbs everything it rolls over. The dpx2 is much more responsive and poppy.
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Se puede instalar en cualquier posición el shock? Tengo una bici Orbea RALLON con este tipo de shock y pretendo invertir la posición para poder alojar una ánfora más grande. Es correcto invertir la posición sin que con ello pueda funcionar mal el shock?
Hey Jeff, I know this is an old video but I wondered what your thoughts are for running a DPX2 on the Ripley V4, instead of the DPS that it comes with as stock?
I am looking at a new Dpx2 performance, it does not have the Low speed compression adjustment. how important is that on a rear shock?
By any chance, may i know what is ur tune settings on ur Dpx2 ?
Dpx2 on my hd4, thanks jeff!
Right on man, that's the one bike I haven't tried it on yet- and I have one on the shelf waiting to go on! Maybe this weekend...
Post your thoughts when you do please!
Hey Jeff. The DPX2 that comes on the stock Ibis bikes are not available with the 10 clicks of Low speed dampening adjustment. What do you think of your Factory version vs the stock performance version? The lack of adjustment caused me to shy away from the stock DPX2.
On my DPS in the open position, whenever descending down pretty rocky bumpy stuff or landing a jump the lever will flick itself into the middle position (semi-open) is this something that usually happens with the DPS or is mine just faulty??
I really like the Dpx2 but it does not fit my 2019 Stumpjumper Comp Alloy 27.5 which has 210x52.5mm 🤦♂️
How do you think the dpx2 compares to the 2023 super deluxe ultimate? I’m on a 2020 Hightower and I blew my dps and looking to upgrade. I’m in south Florida and take trips to some bigger parks. I like to go fast and love to corner fast.
How does the midstroke compression for the dps do?
Jeff, great comparison review! The new 2021 DPX2 190x45 fits in the ibis Ripley now. Pros/cons with dpx2 on the Ripley?
I had the same question...would the DPX2 be a good upgrade for the Ripley V4?
@@beesting987 I decided to just keep the factory DPS and instead replace the fox 34 fork with a 140mm rockshox pike ultimate, which is probably better bang for the buck if you had to choose just one. Adding the DPX2 would probably add more support on long and fast chunky descents. If this what you're normally riding tho, it makes you wonder if you might be better off just getting the Ripmo instead.
Hey Jeff . What is your setting on your Dpx2 ? Your type of ridding is how i ride i ride . I want to set mine up like your? please help me ..
M dpx2 is making squishy chirping sound even w can taken off.sounds like coming from pigging back? What could it be? Can piggy back be serviced?
Will I notice any difference with the dpx2? I got just a dps now.
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high speed compression. On bigger hits and or jumps, how does it behave in "trail" and locked position? Will it still allow full travel and will open valves fully?
DPS I mean
Jeff, how much sag do you run, 25% - 30%? When I run 30% i bottom out. Not sure how many spacers the stock ibis dpx2 shock comes with.
Fox shocks usually say 15-20%, firm to plush. Did you check the manual on your shock on the Fox website? Try their recommendations first, and go from there. Don't just default to 25-30 because everyone does. Cheers.
I'd love to put a dpx2 on my mojo 3.. just wish I could afford it.
Right on Manny- the volume reducer kit is super cheap and makes a big difference as well. Should fit your current DPS shock too!
How big off a difference is it between this DPX2 and the Float X evol? Got that one on my Yeti 5.5 .?
The Float X is generally harsher at the same sag point as the DPX2, but doesn't have any better bottom out resistance or progresivity. The two people I know with an sb5.5 float x swapped it out.
what do you think about dhx2
Hey Jeff I been looking to acquire a new bike, but I’m debating between the ripmo or the mojo 3, which do you think is better
Hi Elco, the Ripmo is a more versatile all-around bike, it can handle Whistler bike park all the way to the mellower trails of the midwest and the southwestern desert. The Mojo3 is fun for really, really tight trails, or if you personally desire a very, very nimble bike.
Hey Jeff, I am getting the DPX2 for my Giant Trance which I have a Fox 36 160 on the front, what sag do you recommend me to start with.?
How do you like it on your Trance? I just ordered one for mine
@@TrueElitegaming1 It works a treat, even on longer decents like Stromlo it holds up well. Plenty of room to configure to suit your riding style.
That Ripmo!!!!!!
It's a rad bike!
Do all DPX2 have a low speed compression adjustment option.
No, only the fancy ones.
I'm selling my DPX2 I pulled off my Switchblade because I'm too heavy for it. It's hardly used at all. Switched to an X2.
How much do you weigh and where are you riding? If you don’t mind me asking....
What is that eye protection you're wearing? Thanks 🚵♂️
Those are 100% "S2" model.
@@JeffKendallWeed thank you..
Would you say this would be okay on a nomad, thinking of this and a dhx2 so it's a one bike quiver
Luke, I haven't tried it on a Nomad, and I'm not super familiar with Santa Cruz's VPP traits, so I'm sorry but I can't give ya a great answer! My gut feeling is that it'd be fine tho!
@@JeffKendallWeed awesome, I'll do some more research and find out
Give Fox a call; they should be able to answer this question for you. Santa Cruz will as well, but they can be hard to contact by phone...
So your go to shock for all around terrain is the dpx2? I find the x2 lazy a bit 😩
Yeah Marc, DPX2 is a great all arounder. For more DH stuff, the X2 is a little bit better.
Ibis really. Screwed up by not having a factory dpx2 option
I was just looking at the Ripmo website and thinking the same! X2 is overkill but I'd like to upgrade the performance DPX2.
Totally!
Hey man ! How many clicks of Low speed do you have on your dpx2 our of curiosity ?
I don't recall exactly, but not more than a couple.
@@JeffKendallWeed what about on the fork ? for your riding style of course :)
Out of curiosity how the hell can you tell your shock is too hot? Do you reach down and touch it? Can you smell it? This is honest to god question by the way.
What are your suspension settsettings?
Depends on the bike! On the Ripmo, with the DPX2, I posted that in the DPX2 set up video.
Fork setting?
What do u mean by MY2018 X2 or newer. Whats the difference to a 2016 one?
I think he means 2019 X2 - changes happened from 2018: increased allowable pressure, token volume, bump stop. Versus 2016, the 2018 X2 would have a lower pressure max (250psi) and different token system/volume, plus hex key to keep the air can from rotating off inadvertently.
Eh gotta disagree there... The float X2 lockout totally sucks. Almost does nothing at all. Yes, after A year and a half on my Nomad... I randomly test rode a Hightower LT, the DPX2 is quite remarkable how form it gets. But the float X2 you can pretty much leave 'locked' 24/7 😂
I left my x2 locked for a descent today.. It was horrible! I don't have a clue what you mean 😂😂😂
@@Loosebirnieee guess you haven't owned a shock with a firm lock!
Just picked up new 21' float x2 in place of my factory dpx2. They claimed it was much firmer. Nope again!
Kinda disappointed I am having to send my dpx2 into fox due to cavatation. $180 dollars to fix it is a hard pill to swallow just over a year old.
The DPX2 costs twice as much as the DPS.
My fox float dps exploded at the bike park in epic fashion. Cannot recommend
Awe shucks Andrew, sorry to hear that! The DPX2 has been the most reliable of the Fox options for me. I'd say the competition (DVO, Rock Shox, Cane Creek, etc) are all similar in terms of reliability.
X2 is much better for enduro. If you need proof, Martin maes runs an X2 and he the best.
Thanks Jeff, ps talk slower there's no rush!
Drop playback speed to 0.75x and it's easier to keep up with him.
Thanks i am going to change from dps to dpx2 was thinking about x2 but i think its too much adjustement
So...did you go through with it or...?