100% True. Most A list actors carry out 75% of their careers playing the same role over and over again with a different name and a different setting. The great B list actors can play any role.
Treat Williams was criminally underrated. Look at any of his roles, and he always had an air of underlying menace, even when playing one of the good guys. A very versatile and understated actor, who in my opinion never was given the recognition he deserved
That is because Truth is Truth, and Culture is like anything else, it comes in cycles. There is always a swing from Conservatism to Progressivism within culture, politics etc and the main reason for that is because of the fact that the young people who were "convinced" by the Conservatives of their day grew up and got into positions of authority, recognizance etc. So while Progressivism is always ALWAYS dragging culture kicking and screaming into the future, there is always going to be those who try to drag us the other way. Unfortunately the only way to overcome them in the longterm is to mold the youth of a culture to recognize the value of social progress and thus never become the Future Conservative Leaders who fight it..... That does mean that I consider racism, misogyny and bigotry as "Conservative" Forces in our society because its typically held and employed by those people for whom authority, respect and fear are only garnered through racist activity. Once they are no longer the ones with the power to enact their vile views they feel "oppressed".
just learn of Mr. Treat's passing who i always thought as a great actor. He could go from smiling to being totally intense so seamlessly that i always thought he would made a great Hulk if given the chance.
Don't know in US, but in ANY european army, the only thing a cadet can say to an officer is "Aye Sir", standing on attention too. Anything else would result in quarters arrest, and on a second occasion, in instant dismissal. A real officer never confronts with anyone, and brawling is a serious offense, resulting in prosecution. There are many ways to teach discipline to a hothead, perfectly legal and extremely effective. Guaranteed.
@fgtrbhwerth3w I believe you are right. In the US , I think you have to ask permission to speak otherwise, and thats recommended in private because having a convo in front of others would be seeing as challenging the upper rank and showing disrespect. So yeah, this whole scene, the cadet would ask to speak to him privately and then give him the order explaining Teague is no longer enrolled in the class, etc. But I have never served so I will leave that up to the men and women who have.
It is the same way in the US. This may be a good movie but it's not realistic at all. At any military academy, that cadet would have faced criminal charges under military law for assaulting a commissioned officer, and probably would have been sent to a military prison. Also, if the officer had provoked the cadet into the fight like what happened in this movie, then he would have also faced some kind of disciplinary action. It's unlikely that he would face the same criminal charges as the cadet who initiated the physical confrontation, but the officer would AT LEAST get the kind of black mark in his record that would ensure he would never recieve another promotion and likely be forced out of the military early and without any of the veteran's benefits to which he would otherwise be entitled.
This scene has no relation to anything that would actually happen in the military not even in a military school. Does not mean its not entertaining just not realistic.
@@Ko700elKilpatrick* He was in movies like rima Williams and the karate kid rip-off "Showdown". Showdown was actually a good B cable channel movie but the Karate Kid similarities are there.
@@DarthVader-1701 He's been acting since 1984, with 151 acting credits in movies and TV shows, as well as a couple Producer and Writer credits. He's played the bad guy for some of the biggest action movie heroes. Chuck Norris, Steven Segal, Jean Claude Van Damme, Sean Connery, Mark Harmon, Ahnold, Chow Yun Fat, and more.
Most actors can be good with the right script and director. But with the right script and director, Treat Williams wasn't just good, he was great. I often thought he should have fired his agent!
The movies plot was centered on Treats character going in undercover to root out a problem of who waspushing the Nazi rhetoric with in the Academy The school was a private Military Academy. At the movies begining Tom Beringers character is mentioned that they tried to get him to go in but he was out of the country.
Your father never loving you and your mother wishing she had aborted you isn't an excuse for you to think children need to be abused. Find a therapist.
Not always, he was in an episode of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine also playing a soldier and a vicious killer, but not a jerk. He is really good as playing one tho, lol.
If you look closely you'll notice that the teacher is holding blackboard erasers in both hands during the early part of the fight. This gets chalk dust on the student's shirt. Slow down the tape, and you also see that when the student missed his kick, the teacher nailed him with a kick of his own in the groin. Good fight sequence!
@@55Quirll Some actors try to stay away from doing sequels as they tend to not do as well. Tom felt that "sequels were a bust and did not help your career at all". I liked both actors in this role. Great series for action fans.
@@altortugas5979 I did at the time I wrote the comment, that is why I put the words in quotes. Google search, there are several places/articles that say this.
Why is there always some soft hearted person screaming he can’t breathe when someone that deserves to not breathe is being choked or someone has their knee on them and they are screaming for their mom?
I encountered this mentality returning from the Gulf War 1990 while attending college. My class was called Ethical Decisions. Being the only Vet in the compressed class, NOBODY was remotely aware about the massive training that takes place prior to deployment. We study what they are taught, how they are taught, their weapons used, etc. This is so we always use their weapons since any repairs would be far expedient. We also studied their vehicles to repair. I could pick up one of their weapons when my ammo ran out, or no longer fired. We could use their own equipment against them. We also LEARNED the battle was from politicians, not opposing soldiers within their country.
If you had behaved in that manner to any senior officer in real life you'd be out of the army in a day To behave in the obnoxious way that cadet did would get an dishonourable discharge Until you get through your basic training you have no official rank and any rank you have is honourary Hence forth why the word cadet is prefaced to any other title
I have never cursed at anyone in my life. I was shocked when I came to this country and heard how people curse so much. I only knew one kid in school that cursed when I lived in Jamaica.
Listen here Cadiots. Unlike your teachers and civilian instructors, all commissioned officers have had at least some level of hand to hand comabt training. Many taking it upon themselves to refine and learn the longer they served. If they are your JROTC or some dumb pseudo academy instructor at a qualified institution, no matter how old they may seem, some reflexes never atrophy. A Cadet commander falls about 80 levels below a commissioned officer in terms of respect and authority.
The Substitute movie series were part of the scared straight genre of action films. They are not always meant to be realistic. Most shared a common theme. An unassuming new employee is forced to stand up against disruptive influences that threaten the school. In this case it followed a pattern of the lead character voluntarily stepping into a school that he knew had a troubled element. His involvement was preceded by a personal connection. He is there to provoke and draw out the troublemakers. He may not be following protocol, but he knows what he is doing. He has done this exact provocation of the class alpha in the previous movie, which took place in an inner city, non- military environment. He is establishing dominance and daring the unseen enemies to come to him.
@herberthutton94 > What movie is this? It's the one which follows Movie Title: in the info above the comments. Too lazy to read for yourself, are you? Or too stupid?
Other Cadet: "SIR, HE CAN'T BREATHE!"
Captain: "That's because I'm CHOKING HIM OUT, Cadet. Your grasp of the obvious is nothing short of astounding."
Where are the riots? And defund the military! Lol!
Cadet, you have made global military history, for i am formally promoting you from cadet to captain of the viciously obvious!
Some people don't get the message with words...
That was the general idea Cadet!!!!!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
A cadet who has absolutely no rank demanding respect from a captain who is a commissioned officer is funny
Exactly,that was very stupid,the teacher or instructor,even if it’s a civilian gets the respect of a commissioned officer!
But he has no right to insult and humiliate him like that
Except they used to insult and humiliate you at boot camp all the time. I know it's not done much now these days but back then yes
@@thehermit761what do you think a military school is? Lol
@@thehermit761 dude you don't live in reality. over half of military training involves being insulted and broken down before you're built back up.
RIP Treat Williams, I salute him for this movie.
He was in some junk - every working actor is, as that’s part of the job - but he was never less than great himself.
He made Deep Rising watchable.
Love Treat and not only because he has my last name. I loved the movie " The Substitute" failure is not an option 😂😂
🤔when did he pass away?!
I think last year in a motorcycle accident @@jamrock719
When someone thinks they are a killer and goes up against someone that actually is a killer lol.
In my country, an old saying says "Those who have no limits in cruelty hides it by playing weak"
No its a movie . .
So you have to honestly be a piece of shit, because discrimination is not cruelty 🤔
I'm a combat vet and they ALWAYS eff around and find out the HARD WAY we are NOT to be effed with.
@daki7070 Interesting, I've never heard that before. Which country, if you don't mind me asking? Hello from the Midwestern US 👋
Treat was at the top of the B list for a long time. Many folks don't understand that without a solid B list, the A list couldn't exist.
Prince of the City is still one of my faves. Treat was on point the entire film.
Agree the problem now is Hollywood puts C list movies out with A list hype
Deep Rising was one of the best.
@brianbarrett192 Oh my days, if that doesn't summarise why Hollyweird is so shite, I don't know what will.
100% True. Most A list actors carry out 75% of their careers playing the same role over and over again with a different name and a different setting. The great B list actors can play any role.
Fun fact: the Werewolves were a Nazi resistance group intended to operate against Allied forces in Germany.
Wehrwolf gruppe...do you know from were it name stems?
Operation Darkness says they worked for the Brits
@@jasonl888That fits because werewolves mostly come from Celtic lore.
Treat Williams was criminally underrated. Look at any of his roles, and he always had an air of underlying menace, even when playing one of the good guys. A very versatile and understated actor, who in my opinion never was given the recognition he deserved
No. He's as good as he's lauded. You need more words.
Crazy how the Movie was Straight to DVD but is STILL VERY RELEVANT in Today’s World👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
any grade B 90's movie, even the Straight to VHS/DVD ones, had more effort in the acting and writing then any 10 movies made today.
@@danielhaire6677 Very True👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
@@danielhaire6677bullshit. There’s a lot of really good movies that come out today. Maybe shut the fuck up and go see some of them?
Yep, a couple of months from now there could be werewolves in the West Wing.
That is because Truth is Truth, and Culture is like anything else, it comes in cycles. There is always a swing from Conservatism to Progressivism within culture, politics etc and the main reason for that is because of the fact that the young people who were "convinced" by the Conservatives of their day grew up and got into positions of authority, recognizance etc. So while Progressivism is always ALWAYS dragging culture kicking and screaming into the future, there is always going to be those who try to drag us the other way. Unfortunately the only way to overcome them in the longterm is to mold the youth of a culture to recognize the value of social progress and thus never become the Future Conservative Leaders who fight it.....
That does mean that I consider racism, misogyny and bigotry as "Conservative" Forces in our society because its typically held and employed by those people for whom authority, respect and fear are only garnered through racist activity. Once they are no longer the ones with the power to enact their vile views they feel "oppressed".
"Sir he can't breathe." You have a problem with that?"
Since he told him that it was an order to fight him and the cadet died his commander would be court marshaled and dishonorable discharged.
"Yeah, and?"
My response to that was "......and?"
The sknhead never knew the teacher walked in a British village in 1943 defending Churchill in "The eagle has landed"
Thats not a skinhead
Oh yes I remember him ,that was Treat Williams I'll have to see that film again 😊
The Eagle Landed but did not survive the battle.
And took over from the incompetent major that had a Jeannie in a bottle. 😊
What a great actor, gone way too soon. RIP Treat Williams
I know how he feels. Sometimes, people are just too ignorant and deserve to be punished.
Punishment leads to revenge soldier
Do your worst.
@@user-gc3yk4zb4e watch out!!! We got a badass over here!!!.
You can’t kill me Burke, I’m the Sandman!
A person of culture you are.
@nbee7934. Yes!😀 Death Warrant. The greatest and underrated character actor Patrick Kilpatrick!
Good call
That part
💀💯🤣🤣🤣
just learn of Mr. Treat's passing who i always thought as a great actor. He could go from smiling to being totally intense so seamlessly that i always thought he would made a great Hulk if given the chance.
I def could probably see that....he'd probably play old hulk or maestro hulk...
Everytime I put this movie on, I know I'm in for a Treat.
I see what you did there lol
I worked worked with Treat on The Eagle has Landed, lovely guy, so sad to hear of his passing.
Loved him as 'Critical Bill' in ''Things to Do in Denver When You're Dead''. 'Paaaaartttyyy!!'
"Keeps my powder dry!"
Hair
Don't know in US, but in ANY european army, the only thing a cadet can say to an officer is "Aye Sir", standing on attention too. Anything else would result in quarters arrest, and on a second occasion, in instant dismissal. A real officer never confronts with anyone, and brawling is a serious offense, resulting in prosecution. There are many ways to teach discipline to a hothead, perfectly legal and extremely effective. Guaranteed.
It's Hollywood's version of reality, so what did you expect? The scene is utterly absurd.
@fgtrbhwerth3w I believe you are right. In the US , I think you have to ask permission to speak otherwise, and thats recommended in private because having a convo in front of others would be seeing as challenging the upper rank and showing disrespect. So yeah, this whole scene, the cadet would ask to speak to him privately and then give him the order explaining Teague is no longer enrolled in the class, etc. But I have never served so I will leave that up to the men and women who have.
It is the same way in the US. This may be a good movie but it's not realistic at all.
At any military academy, that cadet would have faced criminal charges under military law for assaulting a commissioned officer, and probably would have been sent to a military prison. Also, if the officer had provoked the cadet into the fight like what happened in this movie, then he would have also faced some kind of disciplinary action. It's unlikely that he would face the same criminal charges as the cadet who initiated the physical confrontation, but the officer would AT LEAST get the kind of black mark in his record that would ensure he would never recieve another promotion and likely be forced out of the military early and without any of the veteran's benefits to which he would otherwise be entitled.
it's a movie. fake
This scene has no relation to anything that would actually happen in the military not even in a military school. Does not mean its not entertaining just not realistic.
Sir, he can't breathe. - best acting ever.
Patrick Kilpatrick(school commandant/Colonel) always plays dangerous villains.
His full name is Patrick Kill Patrick .... Wow
@@Ko700elKilpatrick* He was in movies like rima Williams and the karate kid rip-off "Showdown". Showdown was actually a good B cable channel movie but the Karate Kid similarities are there.
@@DarthVader-1701 He's been acting since 1984, with 151 acting credits in movies and TV shows, as well as a couple Producer and Writer credits. He's played the bad guy for some of the biggest action movie heroes. Chuck Norris, Steven Segal, Jean Claude Van Damme, Sean Connery, Mark Harmon, Ahnold, Chow Yun Fat, and more.
I don't think I ever saw Patrick Kilpatrick ever play a good guy role. 😁
Turning ablind eye is not eternal vigilance. It's the epitomy of stupidity.
Both of my grandfathers fought the Nazis in WW2. And they deserve no quarter here.
Or anywhere
Boggles my mind inn 2024 any Nazi can freely go around with this ideology
Sadly the US government hired them all with grandfathered in benefits😅😅
That’s not a Nazi, that’s a confused young man who thinks he’s a Nazi. He would never survive the work they would put him up to. Ever.
@@APOStLEpaulieOperation Paperclip
RIP Treat Williams. 😢 1951-2023.
I'm surprised he didn't call him a kraut with how aggressive he was 🤣
he is what he is. no need to drag race into it, that's their thing.
I acted with Treat long ago. With the right director, he could be superb.
I think good acting really comes down to the director.
Most actors can be good with the right script and director.
But with the right script and director, Treat Williams wasn't just good, he was great.
I often thought he should have fired his agent!
Character actors are the ones that glue everything together!
The movies plot was centered on Treats character going in undercover to root out a problem of who waspushing the Nazi rhetoric with in the Academy The school was a private Military Academy. At the movies begining Tom Beringers character is mentioned that they tried to get him to go in but he was out of the country.
RIP Treat Williams...
You know it's an absolute embarrassment when Carl makes you SHUT THE F*** UP. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
True in The US as well .... he would have paid dearly for speaking that way to a senior officer.
RIP Treat. He was a Treat haha.
That kid really played his part perfectly. Easy to hate him.
We need teachers like this in schools across America today..
Teachers who order students to fight them and then choke them out? You want that in what, public schools?
No no we don’t…..
Your father never loving you and your mother wishing she had aborted you isn't an excuse for you to think children need to be abused.
Find a therapist.
Not violent but definitely ones not afraid to give a reality check.
That's one funny lookin' azz cadet tho 😆😆😆
i asked a veteran the question "how would you deal with this situation?" his answer was ...
demonstrated in this clip
Facts
Sad to hear that Treat Williams is no longer with us. He played a great part in, 'The Eagle Has Landed.'
Treat Williams - What a concept! RIP Sir.
I love Treat Williams.
The guy that plays the Colonel always plays a jerk.
Not always, he was in an episode of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine also playing a soldier and a vicious killer, but not a jerk. He is really good as playing one tho, lol.
Between the time of B.J. Blaskowicz and Doomguy, there was Treat Williams.
If you look closely you'll notice that the teacher is holding blackboard erasers in both hands during the early part of the fight. This gets chalk dust on the student's shirt. Slow down the tape, and you also see that when the student missed his kick, the teacher nailed him with a kick of his own in the groin. Good fight sequence!
RIP Treat Williams
🎶 you've been hit by, you've been stuck by...a smooth criminal!🎶
Boy thought he was tough😂😂😂😂😂😂
The original movie with Tom Berenger was the best.
Agreed, Substitute 1, he was great, shame that he wasn’t in any more
@@55Quirll Some actors try to stay away from doing sequels as they tend to not do as well. Tom felt that "sequels were a bust and did not help your career at all". I liked both actors in this role. Great series for action fans.
@johnhanley2431, the quote sounds apocryphal, given how many Sniper sequels he did. Got a source?
@@altortugas5979 He never was in any of the sequels. Treat Williams took over the roll in the sequels.
@@altortugas5979 I did at the time I wrote the comment, that is why I put the words in quotes. Google search, there are several places/articles that say this.
Respect my rank that doesn’t mean anything cause I never served outside of school
Exactly
When I was a kid I used to think treat Williams was a second rate Mel Gibson but Mel Gibson turned out to be the second rate Mel Gibson
The great Treat Williams ...
Sir he can't breathe.
Oh he could breathe fine if I let go, and that's the whole problem here.
that redhead is smokin!
It's Supermodel/actress Angie Everhart. You should check her out in Tales From The Crypt: Bordello of Blood
@@mywirsrxedHey thanks for the tip.
Thank you...
Never commission at an Academy. Do ROTC at a regular college with actual girls. The difference is incomparable.
Patrick Kilpatrick ! . he always plays great villains !
The Teacher has Lebron’s chalk in his hands… when he punches, chalk dust
Sometimes....these types of responses are needed.
One hell of an actor
What movie is this, please?
Why is there always some soft hearted person screaming he can’t breathe when someone that deserves to not breathe is being choked or someone has their knee on them and they are screaming for their mom?
The substitute: failure is not an option.
His superior pulled a "DISCOMBOBULATE"
I encountered this mentality returning from the Gulf War 1990 while attending college. My class was called Ethical Decisions. Being the only Vet in the compressed class, NOBODY was remotely aware about the massive training that takes place prior to deployment. We study what they are taught, how they are taught, their weapons used, etc. This is so we always use their weapons since any repairs would be far expedient. We also studied their vehicles to repair. I could pick up one of their weapons when my ammo ran out, or no longer fired. We could use their own equipment against them. We also LEARNED the battle was from politicians, not opposing soldiers within their country.
Miss Treat Williams so much…..
Good for u cap always protect the crew.
If you had behaved in that manner to any senior officer in real life you'd be out of the army in a day
To behave in the obnoxious way that cadet did would get an dishonourable discharge
Until you get through your basic training you have no official rank and any rank you have is honourary
Hence forth why the word cadet is prefaced to any other title
Movie?
All the Substitute films were pretty good. Liked the first the best though.
I have never cursed at anyone in my life. I was shocked when I came to this country and heard how people curse so much. I only knew one kid in school that cursed when I lived in Jamaica.
Listen here Cadiots. Unlike your teachers and civilian instructors, all commissioned officers have had at least some level of hand to hand comabt training. Many taking it upon themselves to refine and learn the longer they served. If they are your JROTC or some dumb pseudo academy instructor at a qualified institution, no matter how old they may seem, some reflexes never atrophy. A Cadet commander falls about 80 levels below a commissioned officer in terms of respect and authority.
The Substitute movie series were part of the scared straight genre of action films. They are not always meant to be realistic. Most shared a common theme. An unassuming new employee is forced to stand up against disruptive influences that threaten the school.
In this case it followed a pattern of the lead character voluntarily stepping into a school that he knew had a troubled element. His involvement was preceded by a personal connection.
He is there to provoke and draw out the troublemakers. He may not be following protocol, but he knows what he is doing. He has done this exact provocation of the class alpha in the previous movie, which took place in an inner city, non- military environment. He is establishing dominance and daring the unseen enemies to come to him.
I just saw this movie is good substitute teacher I've seen 1 2 there good to😊
That’s what is called a real world application.
What’s the name of this movie?
RIP… I had no idea that he was killed in a motorcycle accident. 🙁
What movie is this?
People who make out they're tough are scared.
RIP Treat Williams :(
Hey all what's name of this movie
Movie name?
These movies were great. Like a cooler Reacher.
Legend has it, a CWO was in the room who saw the whole fight. However, nobody saw the CWO.
It was a senseles shame what happened to him... rest in peace, Treat. 🙏
More teachers like that in todays schools👍😄
That haircut it out of regs
Discombobulate.
Where did all that dust come from during the first hit to the chest.....
That looks like the drill sergeant and private Pyle on Full Metal Jacket.
I only knew about first two movies, didn't know there was actually four of them.
The villains won, the heroes lost and are persecuted for eternity.
@@paganofthenorth448 exactly what a Nazi would say
@@paganofthenorth448 sounds like it should’ve been you in the video. 😉
Show name
What is this film?
The 4th and last "The Substitute" movie, "Failure is Not an Option".
What movie is this?
subsitute failure is no option... in the title.
@herberthutton94
> What movie is this?
It's the one which follows Movie Title: in the info above the comments.
Too lazy to read for yourself, are you? Or too stupid?
1:07 not if it's a direct order
R.I.P. to “Benny Severide”
Sooo, whats the name of movie/tv series?
The Substitute: Failure Is Not An Option
It's actually right there in the title of the clip.
That is one DUSTY cadet
😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
Opooops !!!
I’m still giggling! 😂
When the moon is in the seventh house. And Jupiter aligns with Mars Then peace will guide the planets. And love will steer the stars
Looks like the officer provoked the incident, he did not act like a officer.😮
Treat Williams was truly a great actor I enjoy watching many of his movies and I was truly shocked to hear of his passing R.I.P. Treat Williams
I don’t know the context from seeing the rest of the movie, but just from this scene the teacher was way out of line and should be removed.
Why didn't the soldier talking to Chamberland salute him when he walked up? And why is a Captain wearing an enlisted's saucer cap?
The message
That Judd Nelson?