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It's amazing how much punishment these bogies take with some good springs and suspensions, and still run smoothly. A real wonder of mechanical engineering.
lol i did the same thing and im a little bit dizzy after watching this. I think the reason why i watched it all the way through. I was waiting on something to go horrible wrong but it didn't. 😔
Considering how stable the camera remained in comparison to the wheel/undercarriage action, the suspension is remarkably responsive. I had no idea the suspension under a train worked this hard. Nice video!
If you see other parts except brakes, suspension and wheel,,, everything is so stable.. Salute to those brilliant engineers who designed this awesome machine..😗😗
As a track construction engineer I can explain you what's going on here. Every railway company has ranks for their railways. These ranks determine not only what infrastructure is being used to begin with, but also how often the tracks are being maintained. Usually the ranking looks like this (it may vary a little from company to company): Rank +A: For railways with max. speeds up to 300kph - full maintenance at least every 3 months Rank A: For railways with max. speeds up to 160kph - full maintenance at least every 6 months Rank B: For railways with max. speeds up to 120kph - full maintenance at least once per year Rank C: For railways with max. speeds up to 100kph - full maintenance at least every 3 years Rank D: For railways with max. speeds up to 80kph, narrow gauge or freight lines - maintenance on demand The track in this video looks like rank C to me, especially since jointed rails aren't allowed on tracks with max. speeds over 100kph (again, this may vary from company to company). My guess is that this was a ride shortly before the track got maintained.
In India, even 130kmph mps track is waiting for maintainance from years due to heavy load of ~10-15 trains an hour. Now dedicated freight corridors are being constructed and new tracks are being laid for tripling and quadrupling the routes to reduce some load on existing tracks... 160kmph section also started now.
Ima consult BNSF and csx about there ranking for track here in America we do maintenance after a geology car goes thru it its reads back bad results; usually ties rails ballast and rarely a complete rebuild for the block
The whole TGV network in France is checked every two to three weeks at high speed. Maintenance is either planned or done immediately depending on what they have found.
@Space Scientist not further from truth. The camera is still with respect to the coach; however, the coach moves up and down with respect to ground - you can see this by checking the rails in the video, which move up/down, implying that the coach is actually shaking.
Before watching this video I used to think these things never move even a little bit. But after watching this video I'm overwhelmed , the brakes the wheels the suspension everything shaking like made of paper wow that's really amazing.
@@cat_with_sunglass No really, Camera man was strapped to underneath of train with ducktape to film the footage. He was also awarded best camera man that year...
That sound I used to hear when I make a long journey with train, very relaxing. Too bad trains nowadays have better track so I can't hear this kind of sound any longer
Not necessarily. It is metal on metal and the brake is not almost never contacting flush. It also does not hit with much force. There are definitely losses but it is not as much as it could be. Probably more loss from suspension working hard causing the spring to compress and decompress a lot.
I think the mass of the railcar helps the most in dampening the vibrations. If those wheels are maybe 4000kg, the car on top of it is the other 70.000kg. Everything else moves before the railcar moves. Especially at those higher frequency vibrations.
Interesting stuff, much as I love everything mechanical, I never put much thought into how smooth a track was, or how much the bogies/trucks actually moved either.
@Михаил Михайлов: Indian tracks are much, much better than this, save for some places, and even than those are better than them. do remember that in Indian locos/MU consists the Traction motor is nose suspended and if the tracks are this bad they would be failing every second day as 110 Kmph is pretty standard in here. East European is probably the answer
Yeah, this is terrible track, but the suspension is doing what it's supposed to do. Whomever maintains the equipment, specifically the brakes, should be embarrassed.
+Ron Dunbar If you have a look at the other rail to the right of the image and use that as a stationary reference then you can see just how much the whole carriage bounces.
Having lived in the North of England all my life, those sounds are all too familiar to me. It sounds exactly like the Ribble Valley line. Good old pacers.
awesome... looks like the brake mechanism is ready to fall off at any moment... and love the wire holding the pipe in place...always amazes me how train wheels stay on the track like that
Yes trains don't derail due to their speacial designs on wheel. The front side of the wheel of a train is small than than the other side which cause them to stay balanced on a track
If you look at the trees and landscape the suspension really is doing an amazing job of adjusting to the changes, the car, loco, or whatever only shakes occasionally while going through the worst of the track.
Interesting video, if you had to drive on a road that rough, you would need a new car every two years.. 12 thumbs down, they thought that "100 km/h on bad jointed track #2 " was code for dirty porn and were disappointed.. idiots.
Why am i watching this .. and why have i watched all 7:20 min .. and why is it so stunning to watch the video .. i don't know. Thanks for the video and this interesting view.
+SpaceGladiator engineering is cool :D all this stuff you don't normally appreciate, and all the stuff it has to put up with and still work perfectly. Systems we literally trust with our lives on a daily basis. Things like trains are just massive, which makes them cool anyway. Mankind harnessing science and knowledge for betterment of society... and occasionally, TH-cam.
That was a great video of heavy suspension doing what it was engineered to do! Horrible track for that speed and it probably does a great amount of damage to the suspension over time.
I think that could use a shock absorber or some other dampener.. When the train was stopped the thing was still bouncing. I can't believe that thing stayed on the track.
It does have shock absorbers. Otherwise it would bounce like hell (I’ve driven trams w/o shock absorbers on bad track and nearly been thrown out of my seat!). Leaf springs are dampened enough as it is, coil springs may have an absorber on the axle box, or inside the spring. :)
This is fascinating. Thank you for bringing us this very interesting and informative video presentation, the people are absolutely delighted with having the ability to see the work that this particularly well constructed truck set or bogie does in keeping the train stable. Fantastic.
Before watching video: Hey, see out there! The cows are grazing in the field. So sweet! Mowww Mowww!! After watching video: You know, wheel of our life right now depends on how the wheel of this train performs down there!
This is what my life has become, watching a train wheel and enjoying it
Haha. I agree.
Hahaha....haan saala same mujhe bhi 😅😆😆
Mere ko bhi.. Maza laga... Bullshit...
Hahahaa
So true so many chalenges and did we me become whatching this
It's amazing how much punishment these bogies take with some good springs and suspensions, and still run smoothly. A real wonder of mechanical engineering.
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'm noticed , there are two tiny springs located at the brake linkage that taking so much vibration & survive - still intact.🚂.
The greatest mechanical (and electrical) engineering Marvel of all time for me are railways
Thats Air suspension it is present even in toilets
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19/19 suspension
No camera shake!
The camera isn't shaking because it's attached to the train car and not the wheel config
@@VeeTHis whoosh
@Mario Lisa r/woosh
How is it possible.? Really!
That means the suspension is working properly
I have no idea why I'm watching this. But I watched the whole video.
me too
+Prince Rechebei loool same here :P
+Prince Rechebei Same. I've found it relaxing...
lol i did the same thing and im a little bit dizzy after watching this. I think the reason why i watched it all the way through. I was waiting on something to go horrible wrong but it didn't. 😔
thats cause your a greedy pig. waiting for something bad to happen. shame on you actually
Considering how stable the camera remained in comparison to the wheel/undercarriage action, the suspension is remarkably responsive. I had no idea the suspension under a train worked this hard. Nice video!
Normaly it doesnt work this hard but the track they ride on is real crap.
And it's real crap because they continue to run 100 km/h on it like that.
I think the same,.. the suspension really did a good job!
the camera was stable because it was mounted on the carriage...
@A guy from Earth no shit did you even read the whole comment?
Every local train traveller can relate to the accelerating sound from 1:30 Such a pleasing sound to my ears😍😍
Yess i can relate it 😍😍
Hmm!yes
Same with electric trains especially the o train from ottawa
Don't think this is a local train because they don't have the ladder thing
@@hgfuhgvg they have the ladder thing for the emu pilot to get into cabin but it's an Skoda 68e
I found that train suspension is interesting....
hahahaha
:)
😂
me too
It's dancing
Man...never knew the suspension had to work that hard..
+Wouter d.B. yeah with those thick springs I´d imagine they´d barely move.
Gambini I figured they would because these trains weigh 20+ tonnes per car
Wouter d.B. k
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Wouter d.B. dead ass
That’s really HEAVY METAL...🤘
Yup
nice one
Yep
But if speed increase then the pressure decrease
I see what you did there
Can't believe how much the suspension is working here - obviously rails are no-where near as smooth and flat as they seem!
yeahh..that's true
Yeah, I too was amazed by the performance of these suspensions, brutal really!
I think that's why it says bad jointed track.. Meaning it's not smooth..
Oh yeah... good point! Even so - impressive suspension, especially since they're probably being pushed to limits they weren't designed for!
+Sam'sTrains they mean by bad jointed that it has bad joints between two pieces of track
If you see other parts except brakes, suspension and wheel,,, everything is so stable.. Salute to those brilliant engineers who designed this awesome machine..😗😗
That's an illusion. The camera is rigidly connected to the chassis.
@@dizzywow whooooshhh.....
@@MayankElessar Idiot.
Probably this train is ER25 and was made in the Soviet Union by RVR.
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Shoutout to the cameraman for staying under there and recording this masterpiece 👏🏻👏🏻
LOL it's a camera affixed to the car. No cameraman down there.
😂😂
@@LegendaryRadioJock what really 😳
@@antoninjeno2496 yes, really. For one thing, it's too dangerous for anyone to be riding a train underneath it.
@@LegendaryRadioJock Some people might say that if he had proper safety equipment he would be okay.
There are three things you can watch forever: fire, water and train braking system.
ahahahahahah, exactly))
that and the connection rods on a steam engine.
good comment!!! zachet...
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Bolet train to let
i love how stable the camera is, even on that track
the heavy train itself is just as stable.
That's because the mount is good.
Kan
The sentence "even on that track" is erroneous. All tracks are mostly the same. And the camera isn't stable at all, it's the train cab that is.
+Amit Kumar yes sir you are right i agree with you
Someone bring this suspension to the UK, we need it.
clouD pacer lol
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It is illusion, entrie cab is vibrating but being camera attached to cab you feel camera is nice...lol
It's ok, the Pacers are gone now...
pretty sure the class 315s have it
That train went from 0 to 100 real quick
Because that was emu
There are faster trains
It was likely a locomotive going to a specific place to pick up a train.
Its a timelapse
It's an Electrical Motor Unit used as suburban trains
bad jointed? Here in Russia it's called "well done".
Russia? Are u sure? We have no speech, like here.
In Soviet Russia, train rides you!
Not Soviet-style ties and bolt joints, lite track.
in russia there are no railroads. we use drunk bears instead of trains
In Serbia, high speed rails
50 years and watching how a train's suspension works for the first time in my life.
As a track construction engineer I can explain you what's going on here. Every railway company has ranks for their railways. These ranks determine not only what infrastructure is being used to begin with, but also how often the tracks are being maintained. Usually the ranking looks like this (it may vary a little from company to company):
Rank +A: For railways with max. speeds up to 300kph - full maintenance at least every 3 months
Rank A: For railways with max. speeds up to 160kph - full maintenance at least every 6 months
Rank B: For railways with max. speeds up to 120kph - full maintenance at least once per year
Rank C: For railways with max. speeds up to 100kph - full maintenance at least every 3 years
Rank D: For railways with max. speeds up to 80kph, narrow gauge or freight lines - maintenance on demand
The track in this video looks like rank C to me, especially since jointed rails aren't allowed on tracks with max. speeds over 100kph (again, this may vary from company to company). My guess is that this was a ride shortly before the track got maintained.
Thailand's rank D, max speed 120, maintenance....I've never seen anyone do that. Jointed tracks.
In India, even 130kmph mps track is waiting for maintainance from years due to heavy load of ~10-15 trains an hour. Now dedicated freight corridors are being constructed and new tracks are being laid for tripling and quadrupling the routes to reduce some load on existing tracks... 160kmph section also started now.
Any construction videos?
Ima consult BNSF and csx about there ranking for track here in America we do maintenance after a geology car goes thru it its reads back bad results; usually ties rails ballast and rarely a complete rebuild for the block
The whole TGV network in France is checked every two to three weeks at high speed. Maintenance is either planned or done immediately depending on what they have found.
im watching train wheels spin at 4 am
+Mark I know that feeling...
+Mark 4:32 A.M. here... what am I doing!?!?
+Mark im watching train wheels spin at 5 am
+Mark 4 pm for me at the instant.
+JiV PROD still spinning at 7am
I can watch this for 10 hours or maybe a livestream of real time suspension. very satisfying.
Like watching BA Barachus's van in the A-Team when they had the suspension filmed from a nice angle when on the run.
Who needs good tracks when you have killer suspension.
@Space Scientist not further from truth. The camera is still with respect to the coach; however, the coach moves up and down with respect to ground - you can see this by checking the rails in the video, which move up/down, implying that the coach is actually shaking.
sanjeen2503 right..I compared it with the tracks..It's shaking..But the suspension is world class..😍😍
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@Light uno reverse card always wins
Before watching this video I used to think these things never move even a little bit. But after watching this video I'm overwhelmed , the brakes the wheels the suspension everything shaking like made of paper wow that's really amazing.
a round of applause for that incredible suspension
I'm still surprised, that the train didn't derail at that speed. I just admire the suspension...
+Ponysynth One Official
A car alone surely will jump out of the rail, but this cart are linked to others cars and that keep it in the rails.
I know it doesn't look it, but after ~400 years of stepwise refinement, the railway car suspension is quite a sophisticated piece of engineering.
That's not America. In Europe things are meant to function, and they will do so.
Oddly satisfying for me.
You're suppose to be dead. I killed you, over 20 times....
+BUNCHofxs and I forgot him on Minmus.
Bill Kerman your supposed to be o. the MÜN. I left you there
There's an insect taking a ride, on the botton right corner, it stays there until 2:53.
Damn, what do you do for a living?
That bug might be the one in the family who really made it. Glad we’ve seen its career.
That bug needs to pay for his ticket & fine.. !
what a nice observation 😎😎
And died after
I can't see it, where?
watching the suspension work so well was extremely satisfying
Yeah looking at the trees in the background looked like smooth ride.
Don't know why this is in my recommendation :P
Hahahahaha yes
Same
same xD
Same here
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Kudos to the shock absorber design engineer....This video shows how important shock absorbers are in terms of safety and comfortable journey
Thanks to suspension we passenger didnt feel that uncomfortable inside the train
Inmagine that there arent any suspension. (shake before leaving the train) And act like a drunk persone when walking on the station again.
Well... usually it does the job, but a few times in older train I had moments where wagons started to resonate. It was not very comfortable.
yea realy
That English made me laugh, the uncomfortable
It would be funnier if you tried to speak his/her language
I love the sound a train makes as the wheels pass over the joints.
Got to appreciate the camera man for bringing us such stable and awesome footage.
There was a camera attached under the train no one was holding the camera, it could be very dangerous
@@cat_with_sunglass 😐 thank you for stating the obvious
@@cat_with_sunglass No really, Camera man was strapped to underneath of train with ducktape to film the footage. He was also awarded best camera man that year...
That sound I used to hear when I make a long journey with train, very relaxing. Too bad trains nowadays have better track so I can't hear this kind of sound any longer
Yeah
6:57 Notice how the brake block is pressed against the wheel. Cool =)
It is called brake shoe
The whole thing just wobbles so hard , it feels like the parts may come off any moment....
The wheels be like, hey guys, welcome to my vlog..
There must be substantial energy loss with that brake constantly bouncing around hitting that wheel.
Not necessarily. It is metal on metal and the brake is not almost never contacting flush. It also does not hit with much force. There are definitely losses but it is not as much as it could be. Probably more loss from suspension working hard causing the spring to compress and decompress a lot.
@@joecool4656 metal or plastic .. plastic have a lot more braking power..you are right btw..
Something oddly satisfying about watching a suspension system doing its job.... and to see just how much it can move on a train just blew my mind!
That is impressive suspension, The whole bogie is bouncing all over the place but the carriage is rock steady
Yes. that is very impressive.
Because its weight so much
+Emil Nygård Why? The video would be blurry
Its somewhat steady compare the ground and carriage
there is alot that happens down there you wouldnt really notice
That's what your wife says.
so does your mum
quality banter
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James Gray jtrri
In my opinion, it’s really awesome to see how much work a trains suspension system has to do to keep these mighty machines smooth
Amazing video. It is astounding how little shake there is in the camera with such violent movement on the wheelset/bogie. Thanks for posting.
+John Edwards It's normal I see the camera is placed relative to the loco body itself ...
I think the mass of the railcar helps the most in dampening the vibrations. If those wheels are maybe 4000kg, the car on top of it is the other 70.000kg. Everything else moves before the railcar moves. Especially at those higher frequency vibrations.
Holy Cow. Didn't realise hoe much movement there was going on down there.
There is supposed to be less
but if you read the title then it says what the problem is
I live next to a rural railroad. I hear the clanking almost every night. I fall asleep to it. I have grown to appreciate it a lot.
The clanking is kind of a white noise if I am not wrong
it feels like this train was forever stuck In a circle?
this is a effect by wide angle camera. so in your sight you will see this rail like a circle rail..
Wow.. never thought of it like that. Thank you Amar Ramadhan
okay your welcome..
is it supposed to be a sarcasm? just asking...
I do not think so. Why do you ask that? +Fariz Oktavian
Wow, that suspension is doing miracles! Keeping the train so steady even when the track is bumpy!
Interesting stuff, much as I love everything mechanical, I never put much thought into how smooth a track was, or how much the bogies/trucks actually moved either.
How the hell is 100km/h approved on this track?! 😲
Russia.
Whats so bad on 100 on these tracks? the only problem is that it will be loud if you open windows in the train
Russian tracks are much better than this. Probably India
@Михаил Михайлов: Indian tracks are much, much better than this, save for some places, and even than those are better than them. do remember that in Indian locos/MU consists the Traction motor is nose suspended and if the tracks are this bad they would be failing every second day as 110 Kmph is pretty standard in here.
East European is probably the answer
Poland.
These train sounds are rythem to my ears ❤️😍
I literally thought that some of the parts was about to come out...
Yeah, this is terrible track, but the suspension is doing what it's supposed to do. Whomever maintains the equipment, specifically the brakes, should be embarrassed.
+Stan Patterson Its a false effect. the camera is fixed to the chassis and it doesnt move
+97ABDE no... you are wrong. Look the horizon
+97ABDE the chassis doesn't move because the suspension absorbed all the rough parts of the track...
+Pablo Ata The carbody does not bounce around precisely because the camera is affixed to the carbody. If the carbody moves, the camera moves with it.
+Ron Dunbar If you have a look at the other rail to the right of the image and use that as a stationary reference then you can see just how much the whole carriage bounces.
I grew up along the RR tracks and I am completely blown away by how much the suspension takes a beating. I had no idea.
Wow that suspension does an amazing job
Having lived in the North of England all my life, those sounds are all too familiar to me. It sounds exactly like the Ribble Valley line. Good old pacers.
awesme acceleration
power of electric engine
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dennis jacob Most probably an EMU.
1247DetPhelps its not EMU
Its emu mate. Listen the sound. It has a different type of onnhh sound
Cameraman did an excellent job, landscape mode, steady hand, and just lets the action unfold for us. Thanks!
The sound of those traction motors is just awesome !!
@B E R R I L Y definitely not a 455, no 3rd rail present
Great video, that suspension is getting a good workout !
I love how the suspension did all the work and the train was basically on the same hight level all the time
Amazing the amount of punishment the car takes.
awesome... looks like the brake mechanism is ready to fall off at any moment... and love the wire holding the pipe in place...always amazes me how train wheels stay on the track like that
*I'm sure it must be INDIAN RAILWAY*
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Because, where we can hear the sounds of each and every 65,000 spare parts
It was in Bulgari.a
You people should not born in India
@@ruslanzulpikarov7224 or may be Russia.
மோ கன் every properly laid line sound like this
@@idonotlikeboats9328 Bulgaria
6:55 Nice to see the block brake is working
It’s a miracle trains don’t derail that often. This looks intense.
Yes trains don't derail due to their speacial designs on wheel. The front side of the wheel of a train is small than than the other side which cause them to stay balanced on a track
If you look at the trees and landscape the suspension really is doing an amazing job of adjusting to the changes, the car, loco, or whatever only shakes occasionally while going through the worst of the track.
follow the other track..It's amazing how the suspension is doing its job on such uneven plain
i though that train gonna crash
that look like a FINAL DESTINATION scene
LOOKS LIKE THE END OF THE WORLD...
7:03 oh i can smell it
Interesting video, if you had to drive on a road that rough, you would need a new car every two years.. 12 thumbs down, they thought that "100 km/h on bad jointed track #2 " was code for dirty porn and were disappointed.. idiots.
+ThePostal67 LOL ;-)
I want that suspension i my vehicle
Well, you need 45 tons for it to be effective.
@@adamhlali8106 otherwise it's gonna be stiff as hell
@@Brooo0-x6y YEAH XD
I want that entire railway in my country (our public transport sucks)
നമക്ക് നമ്മുടെ സൗണ്ടും സസ്പെന്ഷന് അല്ലെ best...
Very good! here in Brazil our fastest railway is FERRO-NORTH, our trains run at 88km / h
Why am i watching this .. and why have i watched all 7:20 min .. and why is it so stunning to watch the video .. i don't know.
Thanks for the video and this interesting view.
+SpaceGladiator engineering is cool :D all this stuff you don't normally appreciate, and all the stuff it has to put up with and still work perfectly. Systems we literally trust with our lives on a daily basis. Things like trains are just massive, which makes them cool anyway. Mankind harnessing science and knowledge for betterment of society... and occasionally, TH-cam.
That was a great video of heavy suspension doing what it was engineered to do! Horrible track for that speed and it probably does a great amount of damage to the suspension over time.
I always found something special and spiritual watching all kind of suspension working.
Watching the entire system involved with the suspension and wheels jostling around like crazy was wild
Amazing suspension system considering the load of the carriage. Wonderful how stable is the camera.
Wow.... Whatta video. Hats off to the person who planted his GoPro near train axle.
I just love the fact it seems to be held together by a piece of string!
No, its being held by the trucks.
No, it's held by a string
Very interesting to see that suspension at work! Thanks for making this and putting it up
Amazing how all that steel holds together being smashed around like it is. Thing is probably 40 years old as well. Super engineering!
Weird how long it took for the brake shoe to fully retract. It's amazing they stayed intact during that relentless beating.
I just watched this entire video, train suspensions work super hard ! Never knew how hard till just now.
It’s amazing how much movement parts get without us knowing
It looks like it's going to fell apart at any moment :)
lol ikr
Brake looks like it afaik
I don't think it will
It's 1am. What am I doing here?
same here... ^^
its 104 am for me right now. weird. why is this on my youtube lol
Same here
LMAO same
Same
Mind boggling, rugged yet smooth. I was surprised it wasn't a derail.
That looks like it's going to fall apart :'(
Wow. Amazing. I always like to see these huge engines running. Very nice.
Don’t understand how that entire assembly doesn’t just fall apart. Quite amazing to see the punishment it goes through.
Amazing how smooth the cam is mounted on the car
Very amusing to watch indeed... Makes me appreciate the engineering behind it
Who Will Watching After 5 Years Recommendation.
I think that could use a shock absorber or some other dampener.. When the train was stopped the thing was still bouncing. I can't believe that thing stayed on the track.
It does have shock absorbers. Otherwise it would bounce like hell (I’ve driven trams w/o shock absorbers on bad track and nearly been thrown out of my seat!). Leaf springs are dampened enough as it is, coil springs may have an absorber on the axle box, or inside the spring. :)
Lol, well then it needs new one! Take it to Midas!
Hell no Midas Jiffy lube Or any large chain mechanic even dealership I have a hard time trusting
it looks like the entire break system, broke off, just after the end of this clip
This is fascinating. Thank you for bringing us this very interesting and informative video presentation, the people are absolutely delighted with having the ability to see the work that this particularly well constructed truck set or bogie does in keeping the train stable. Fantastic.
Amazing how much punishment the suspension appears to absorb without disturbing the carriage or its contents.
Now i want a train suspension on my truck. This suspension is the best 😂
Before watching video: Hey, see out there! The cows are grazing in the field. So sweet! Mowww Mowww!!
After watching video: You know, wheel of our life right now depends on how the wheel of this train performs down there!
Love the sound of traction motor