Definitely a soft shooting tack driver. The most accurate semi 7.62x39 gun I own. I don't care about weight. I put full wood furniture on mine and run a suppressor with 1-6 scope. Good training to offhand shoot a RPD.
They are incredibly accurate. I don't mind the weight while hiking or training. You don't really notice it until you are just standing there free handing at a slow pace like that, lol. It's hands down one if my favorites.
@JacksMagicBean Honestly, I can't say, I don't have a lot of experience with the Ace at this time, other than fondling it. But I will say that the PTR 32 is the most accurate 7.62x39 rifle that I have fired so far.
Bought one of these few months ago, fun shooter. Mine now has a wide handguard and steel bipod, Burris 1-6 lpvo with burris mount. ((10)) waffles and bakes fit mine so I'm happy.
Awesome! I'm definitely wanting to put a mlok handguard and a bipod or stubby grip on it. The thin grip that is on it literally cooks after about 60 rounds
Thanks! I thought that one round that didn't go off could have been a light strike, but when I looked at the primer, it was smacked pretty good, like real good. I think maybe just a dud, but I'm all for increasing reliability. I do appreciate the info.
I cannot bitch about either. Out to 300 yards, I can reliably hit steel with my AKM. 200 yards I am 100% with mine but I mounted an optic. I have a PTR-91. Love both platforms. Better is relative. The AKM is way better for close combat. The mags both rock in. If you use the AKM with an optic, the real world difference is negligible except for the weight. Irons are way better than the AKM. I have always felt the AKM irons are rough. The front post covers too much and I like the diopter more than I thought I would. But if I had to run and gun, I'd be taking the AKM. That said I want a PTR32 because roller locking guns are hella accurate. It would maximimize the accuracy of 7.63x39.
@@projectredbeard2199 My AKM is just shy of 7.5 lbs without ammo. What does the PTR-32 weigh without ammo? My PTR 91 weighs 10 lbs but I got the FR model with the bull barrel and aluminum hand guard intending to make it a DMR from the get go so it is front heavy but is capable of 1 MOA accuracy if I do my job.
Good video. I have one too and it’s a reliable accurate shooter. I think the timney 91 trigger will fit. That’s my next improvement. Of all the mags I’ve tested, a magpul is best. Real struck and front handrail can also be upgraded. I will need to add a check riser or magpul rear stock to better fit scope view. Keep up the videos.
I have the PTR 91 GI from around 2008ish anyway I’m patiently waiting for the HK93 clone from PTR then I’d buy both the 32 and 93 versions…. great video
Hi, not looking to tell you how to shoot, but just looking to pass off some filming advice. I am a fan of brevity so I will make this quick. - The best time to record or photograph anything is shortly after dawn and shortly before sunset. This is known as the Golden Hour and there are sites and tools online to figure out when that time is in your area. Doing that will make your videos look great. - Invest in a lens hood so even when you are pointing in the direction of the sun, the camera doesn't get washed out with light - Get a cardboard cutout or a sign or something to help with setting up your camera before you stand in front of it. - It really helps to record some b-roll footage to talk over so people are engaged and so you have some visual aid to help describe features. Panning shots of the rifle, laying the big parts of the rifle on a table like the exploded view diagram that comes in the manual. - On cameras there is a mode that puts a 3x3 grid of squares and actually, I will let Jerma explain that because he does a great job th-cam.com/video/OdVqJ5rMrTc/w-d-xo.html You got some room to learn, but I think you have a pretty good idea of how to make an interesting bit of video. Keep it up!
Appreciate the tips! I have a hard time getting to record at certain times because of work, so I get limited there some. But the other stuff I can definitely do!
If only PTR could fix the mag and realiability issues. Its certainly a fine platform. And they definitely need to release the 93 version in 5.56. Why no "bolt hold open" feature? Can the engineers not figure that out? As an Army vet, i appreciate the "hold open/button mag release/new mag insert" procedure, its certinly much faster.
Thank you! Good luck with your search. They are worth it. A lot of people have never heard of it, honestly. I only knew of the original HK 32, but when I found out the PTR made one, I had to have one, and I don't regret it one bit. Haha
I bought my ptr 32 back in 2014-15. Never shoot it. Been sitting in my gun safe all this time till last weekend. Thot I want to try to shoot it and see how it feels. I fell in love with it and telling myself why I didn't take it out a long time ago. It hit dead on at 150 yard at steel plate. I was so impressed. I do have ak47 and sks. Ptr 32 is 10 times better
Awesome gun, great shooting. Love the concept of this rifle, would love one in a small barrel configuration but thebissues I'm hearing of the 762 on the roller delay system is concerning and I have heard issues of guns breaking roller popping and various issues. The weight issue is a concern too, nit because it's merely heavy but because the gun is so unwieldy and bulky. I would have to get one in the hk 53 or 33 config, and a little 8 or 10 inch barrel really 10 inch is all you need to fully take advantage of the 762 cartridge, with a 23 inch barrel kind of being a little to muc u but still the second best option. The great part of the 862 is that you can use the 762 cartridge to dull effectiveness with such a small barrel because the gun powder is burned so fast on the round, so taking advantage of this andnhsving a light compact gun is my whole agenda since I love the 762 round and it's easier to come across for now than 300 blk. So getting a bulky hk 91 base hk per 32 is just kind of counter productive, even thought I just fkj love the concept and lokm of it. I'm trying to get anything outside kf aks that chamber 762 and this has so much potentual
@Mithradates_of_Los_Angeles I think most of the issues were worked out in the first gen. As far as popping rollers that happens really on all the roller delayed blowback guns at some point really. But I see what youbare saying about a shorter barrel. Mine is 18" I believe but it's just so accurate.
Yeah, I love mine! Just got an aluminum mlok rail for it from Midwest Industries. I'm not sure why that round failed. It smacked that primer pretty good.
@K Ban I use high temp lithium grease on the bolt and rollers and use a thin coat on the inside of the receiver. Keeps the build up to a minimum for me.
I had the ptr 91. Built like a tank 1.5"moa with surplus ammo. That roller delayed system is wild but it does the job. Also it was the dirtiest gun ever, I dont know if its the design or what but after 100 rds it looked like an AK after 1k rds. A cool range toy but as far as a fighting weapon a 7llb AK or AR will be chosen over a 9lb gun same caliber imo.
The HK roller delayed system is just inherently dirty lol, but is very reliable, even when extremely dirty. This Is more of a DMR rifle. More weight, yes, but increases the capability of the round greatly.
So since it runs the ak mags I generally just get magpul mags it really likes those. The 1st gen didn't like other types, supposedly, but from what I've read, Generation 2 is more versatile. This is a gen 2 and I'm definitely gonna do more videos with it, so I'll try some other mags as well.
Thank you. Yeah, from everything I've read on them over the years, they just didn't gain in popularity like they should have, but they are awesome guns. I only remember the difference because I like 7.62x39 more than 556 lol
It is a good bit heavier than the AK(i do have a Zastava m70 that i love) , however in the configuration in the video here it's getting 1 moa or less with TULA ammo... I've done some inexpensive upgrades. I just haven't gotten around to doing a video and test on grouping with the upgrades yet. It's truly a great DMR platform for 7.62x39.
@@projectredbeard2199 im sure among a room AKs it is superior, but i always consider how replaceable parts would be with no supply chain. They sure do look nice, im probably gonna get a 91 as my first 308
@matthewgower Well, PTR being made in America really helps in that department, at least I think so anyway. You don't have to worry about import issues, and even at that, most if not all HK parts will work on PTR since PTR bought the blueprints from HK.
Get the plastic 91 wide hand guard (AC Unity version is great!) that also covers the trunion area on the receiver, cheap, light, and keeps you from burning the shit out of your hands like the slim old style and aluminum hand guards. You can thank me later, lol!
@@projectredbeard2199 It'll allow you to add gadgets to the mlok but that alu rail will get hot fast, that's the trade off nobody talks about. The ac unity has sling qd mounts and I just attached a lil small section of pic rail on my plastic hand guard to mount light to.
I love my PTR32 had it for about 6 years and it just runs. Got mine new for $899 and nobody seemed to know about these. I put original g3 wood furniture on mine for that original old school battle rifle look.
@Beef Supreme dang... hopefully, they will get it straightened out for you. The only issue I've really heard of on these is if the locking piece is the wrong one, but that's not really a common thing. When you get it back, let me know what they say, im curious.
@@projectredbeard2199 yeah. Besides, that's a biproduct of the internet age. We actually hear about the lemons, where it was all word of mouth thirty years ago.
Honestly, that depends on the purpose of the gun. If you want a lightweight gun that has been proven all over the world, the m70. If you want a gun to squeeze the most accuracy out of the 7.62x39 and don't care about the weight, then the ptr 32. The AK trigger is usually pretty good. The PTR is a heavy but crisp trigger. What role are you trying to fill?
@@projectredbeard2199 so I currently own a Zpap92 pistol, I never owned a rifle AK variant but I’d like to for sure, Accuracy is a must in any platform I get, I believe in having a pistol version of your rifle just in case something happens but also for CQB (hypothetically) which is why I have a Zpap 92 and before that a real Romanian Draco (12.5 inch) My rule of thumb; one is none and two is one, I love that the PTR 32 uses AK mags and I’m itching for a rifle at this point however the M70’s I’m torn between happen to be a wooden fixed stock or magpul furniture/ folding stock, with the wood grain fixed stock JMAC Customs has an adapter that allows for Sig and Sig style folding stocks so if I dont like the fixed stock I have a more of a compact option to add on, Wasr 10 is also another decent option but of course it would be the cheapest amongst the two however I want a longer barrel for accuracy with the possibility to have a folding stock but would you rather carry a PTR 32 and a 556 rifle or an AK and a 556 rifle ?
@Vanguard Gaming gotchya, so for me, I don't own a 556 anymore, I probably should, but I sold mine because I had way more 308 and 7.62x39 ammo so I just stuck with those. The ak platform is plenty accurate and more accurate than most people think. We have some PSA GF3 aks, and they are awesome aks, 300 yards with a micro red dot all day long. The PTR32 is just stupid accurate, like 1 moa with TulAmmo, that's why I made it my DMR rifle. If you want an all-purpose rifle, then an AK is probably the way to go. I have not run a Zpap, so i dont really have an opinion on them, but the M70s are gtg, and if you want to save some more money or put more money in ammo, maybe take a look at the psa Ak47, forged trunion, bolt, and BCG. I honestly think I just seen them have some blemished gf3s for like 599. But if you want to stick traditional import, then m70.
While it is definitely heavier than an AK the accuracy is crazy for a 7.62x39 caliber rifle and even crazier to note that that is still with cheap steel cased ammo
I have one and I don't think it's better than an AK at all. More magazine and and ammunition sensitive than any AK I've ever run as well as heavier. Fun gun but it's obvious why the Finns stuck with their Valmets instead of going with these.
@dbmail545 Mine hasn't been ammo sensitive at all. Accuracy wise, at range, it is far superior to the AK. Heavy? In a way. I now have it configured as a true DMR and it works that niche very nicely. The AK does have its advantages don't get me wrong.
An adjustable stock would be cool, but idk why I kinda like this one lol. And for the trigger, I'm not really sure there is a whole lot of options, I know there used to be a guy people talked about that did hk trigger jobs but I can't remember the name and I think it was like $300. The trigger is heavy but very crisp.
The ptr 32 is a 9lb rifle bare throw an optic on it, throw an base on it and throw a full mag and you are at almost 14lbs. Idc what you think that is heavy for a 7.62x39 rifle. Period. An AK with a full mag is 7.5lbs
@John Outdoors I never count rounds. Why remove mental concentration away from your target? The HK design does not lock to the rear. The mag that I reinsert had a primer that did not ignite, so I dropped the mag out, and as it was falling, I seen there were a few rounds left. I had already fire a majority of that mag, and obviously if I wasn't just out shooting, it would have not been re-inserted. Also, yes, the sun was directly in front of me, it didn't mean I couldn't hit my target, I just clearly stated that I wish I had some coverage to ease in visibility.
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Man if you don’t like the sound of that bolt on the rollers you just might be dead inside . I love mine . Nice video and presentation .
I agree!! Thank you!
Definitely a soft shooting tack driver. The most accurate semi 7.62x39 gun I own. I don't care about weight. I put full wood furniture on mine and run a suppressor with 1-6 scope. Good training to offhand shoot a RPD.
They are incredibly accurate. I don't mind the weight while hiking or training. You don't really notice it until you are just standing there free handing at a slow pace like that, lol. It's hands down one if my favorites.
Based wood furniture Chad.
@@projectredbeard2199 is it more accurate than galil ace gen 2?
@JacksMagicBean Honestly, I can't say, I don't have a lot of experience with the Ace at this time, other than fondling it. But I will say that the PTR 32 is the most accurate 7.62x39 rifle that I have fired so far.
@@projectredbeard2199 how many MOA would you rate it as? AKOU says it's between 1 MOA and 1.5 MOA with crappy steel ammo
You got me thinking about this now. I have a ptr 91 and like it. I can only imagine this in 7.62 x 39
I'm not gonna lie they are finominal shooters in 7.62x39.
It's got a neat feel. You can definitely feel the bolt go back into battery.
Yeah like you can feel everything yet nothing at the same time lol
Bought one of these few months ago, fun shooter. Mine now has a wide handguard and steel bipod, Burris 1-6 lpvo with burris mount. ((10)) waffles and bakes fit mine so I'm happy.
Awesome! I'm definitely wanting to put a mlok handguard and a bipod or stubby grip on it. The thin grip that is on it literally cooks after about 60 rounds
Upgrade the hammer spring.
These rifles are known for light strikes. Best $12 I spent.
Thanks! I thought that one round that didn't go off could have been a light strike, but when I looked at the primer, it was smacked pretty good, like real good. I think maybe just a dud, but I'm all for increasing reliability. I do appreciate the info.
Upgrade to this spring? HKP-16447
Where do you get that upgraded hammer spring
Never heard of this until today now i need one
They are awesome pieces!
I cannot bitch about either. Out to 300 yards, I can reliably hit steel with my AKM. 200 yards I am 100% with mine but I mounted an optic. I have a PTR-91. Love both platforms. Better is relative. The AKM is way better for close combat. The mags both rock in. If you use the AKM with an optic, the real world difference is negligible except for the weight. Irons are way better than the AKM. I have always felt the AKM irons are rough. The front post covers too much and I like the diopter more than I thought I would. But if I had to run and gun, I'd be taking the AKM. That said I want a PTR32 because roller locking guns are hella accurate. It would maximimize the accuracy of 7.63x39.
I agreed. Really being "better" is more set along the lines of use point.
@@projectredbeard2199 My AKM is just shy of 7.5 lbs without ammo. What does the PTR-32 weigh without ammo? My PTR 91 weighs 10 lbs but I got the FR model with the bull barrel and aluminum hand guard intending to make it a DMR from the get go so it is front heavy but is capable of 1 MOA accuracy if I do my job.
@cbwelch4 The ptr 91 and ptr 32 are very similar in the weight and size department.
Good video. I have one too and it’s a reliable accurate shooter. I think the timney 91 trigger will fit. That’s my next improvement. Of all the mags I’ve tested, a magpul is best. Real struck and front handrail can also be upgraded. I will need to add a check riser or magpul rear stock to better fit scope view. Keep up the videos.
I have made some upgrades since this video just have been super busy and haven't had a chance to make the update video. But hopefully soon!
I have the PTR 91 GI from around 2008ish anyway I’m patiently waiting for the HK93 clone from PTR then I’d buy both the 32 and 93 versions…. great video
I'm honestly surprised they haven't dropped on yet. And thank you!
Hi, not looking to tell you how to shoot, but just looking to pass off some filming advice. I am a fan of brevity so I will make this quick.
- The best time to record or photograph anything is shortly after dawn and shortly before sunset. This is known as the Golden Hour and there are sites and tools online to figure out when that time is in your area. Doing that will make your videos look great.
- Invest in a lens hood so even when you are pointing in the direction of the sun, the camera doesn't get washed out with light
- Get a cardboard cutout or a sign or something to help with setting up your camera before you stand in front of it.
- It really helps to record some b-roll footage to talk over so people are engaged and so you have some visual aid to help describe features. Panning shots of the rifle, laying the big parts of the rifle on a table like the exploded view diagram that comes in the manual.
- On cameras there is a mode that puts a 3x3 grid of squares and actually, I will let Jerma explain that because he does a great job th-cam.com/video/OdVqJ5rMrTc/w-d-xo.html
You got some room to learn, but I think you have a pretty good idea of how to make an interesting bit of video. Keep it up!
Appreciate the tips! I have a hard time getting to record at certain times because of work, so I get limited there some. But the other stuff I can definitely do!
If only PTR could fix the mag and realiability issues.
Its certainly a fine platform. And they definitely need to release the 93 version in 5.56.
Why no "bolt hold open" feature?
Can the engineers not figure that out?
As an Army vet, i appreciate the "hold open/button mag release/new mag insert" procedure, its certinly much faster.
That's basically my dream gun rn hahah all black w lpvo, maybe even a leather sling too.
They are great shooters. Definitely worth taking a look at!
My next PTR. I have the 91 and 9mm I hope to get this one by the end of 2023. I do have an Arsenal Sam 7 that is a pretty sweet AK
Nice! They are definitely worth it. I have a M70 and I love it
Awesome content, I just started my search to find one, I never had a clue it was a thing.
Thank you! Good luck with your search. They are worth it. A lot of people have never heard of it, honestly. I only knew of the original HK 32, but when I found out the PTR made one, I had to have one, and I don't regret it one bit. Haha
You can find them on Atlantic Firearms.
I bought my ptr 32 back in 2014-15. Never shoot it. Been sitting in my gun safe all this time till last weekend. Thot I want to try to shoot it and see how it feels. I fell in love with it and telling myself why I didn't take it out a long time ago. It hit dead on at 150 yard at steel plate. I was so impressed. I do have ak47 and sks. Ptr 32 is 10 times better
I had the luxury of giving this beauty a test fire at my local range. Safe to say that its a top 5 for me, easy
They really are great, smooth shooting guns. I love mine.
Awesome gun, great shooting. Love the concept of this rifle, would love one in a small barrel configuration but thebissues I'm hearing of the 762 on the roller delay system is concerning and I have heard issues of guns breaking roller popping and various issues.
The weight issue is a concern too, nit because it's merely heavy but because the gun is so unwieldy and bulky. I would have to get one in the hk 53 or 33 config, and a little 8 or 10 inch barrel really 10 inch is all you need to fully take advantage of the 762 cartridge, with a 23 inch barrel kind of being a little to muc u but still the second best option.
The great part of the 862 is that you can use the 762 cartridge to dull effectiveness with such a small barrel because the gun powder is burned so fast on the round, so taking advantage of this andnhsving a light compact gun is my whole agenda since I love the 762 round and it's easier to come across for now than 300 blk.
So getting a bulky hk 91 base hk per 32 is just kind of counter productive, even thought I just fkj love the concept and lokm of it.
I'm trying to get anything outside kf aks that chamber 762 and this has so much potentual
@Mithradates_of_Los_Angeles I think most of the issues were worked out in the first gen. As far as popping rollers that happens really on all the roller delayed blowback guns at some point really. But I see what youbare saying about a shorter barrel. Mine is 18" I believe but it's just so accurate.
Love my Ptr 32 other than occasional FTF depending on the ammo brand.
Yeah, I love mine! Just got an aluminum mlok rail for it from Midwest Industries. I'm not sure why that round failed. It smacked that primer pretty good.
@@projectredbeard2199 what do you do to clean hard carbon build up out of area the rollers lock into? I have to scrape it out 🤷♂️
@K Ban I use high temp lithium grease on the bolt and rollers and use a thin coat on the inside of the receiver. Keeps the build up to a minimum for me.
That's a great shooting piece of equipment buddy
Yes, yes, it is. It gives me the "services" 🤣
I had the ptr 91. Built like a tank 1.5"moa with surplus ammo. That roller delayed system is wild but it does the job. Also it was the dirtiest gun ever, I dont know if its the design or what but after 100 rds it looked like an AK after 1k rds. A cool range toy but as far as a fighting weapon a 7llb AK or AR will be chosen over a 9lb gun same caliber imo.
The HK roller delayed system is just inherently dirty lol, but is very reliable, even when extremely dirty. This Is more of a DMR rifle. More weight, yes, but increases the capability of the round greatly.
That’s one badass gun.
Do you know what the magazine compatability is like on this thing?
So since it runs the ak mags I generally just get magpul mags it really likes those. The 1st gen didn't like other types, supposedly, but from what I've read, Generation 2 is more versatile. This is a gen 2 and I'm definitely gonna do more videos with it, so I'll try some other mags as well.
Damn, I just threw all my project plans out the window. Gotta save up for this!
Hahahaha
I put the Magpul aluminum rail on there. I don't think it added any weight. If it did, it is negligible.
Where did you find it at?
Man, I love that mag bag where’d you get it?
It was a gift. I'm not sure where it was purchased at.
Nice rifle, I remeber when the HK32 and 33 came out in 80s. About the same time frame. I always got them confused 7.62X39 vs 5.56mm.
Thank you. Yeah, from everything I've read on them over the years, they just didn't gain in popularity like they should have, but they are awesome guns. I only remember the difference because I like 7.62x39 more than 556 lol
No Last-round bolt-hold-open?
No, most HK or HK pattern roller delayed blowback firearms don't.
Maybe if you have nothing but ak mags, how much heavier is it than the ak? And how much better accuracy are you getting in comparison
It is a good bit heavier than the AK(i do have a Zastava m70 that i love) , however in the configuration in the video here it's getting 1 moa or less with TULA ammo... I've done some inexpensive upgrades. I just haven't gotten around to doing a video and test on grouping with the upgrades yet. It's truly a great DMR platform for 7.62x39.
@@projectredbeard2199 im sure among a room AKs it is superior, but i always consider how replaceable parts would be with no supply chain. They sure do look nice, im probably gonna get a 91 as my first 308
@matthewgower Well, PTR being made in America really helps in that department, at least I think so anyway. You don't have to worry about import issues, and even at that, most if not all HK parts will work on PTR since PTR bought the blueprints from HK.
Get yourself a H&K wide forend for a G3 and the heating problem is less obvious....
I've been looking. I would like to get an aluminum mlok forend, so I could add a short vertical grip or a bipod
I have been considering. Hmmm, this must be a sign from the Universe, lol.
Lol, man, this thing is wildly accurate. I've never seen a gun be this accurate with freaking steel case ammo before haha
@@projectredbeard2199 I shall take it under due consideration (meaning Kirk will let the dealer twist for another week and then go for a discount).
@@kirkfreeman6913 haha I hear that 🤣
Get the plastic 91 wide hand guard (AC Unity version is great!) that also covers the trunion area on the receiver, cheap, light, and keeps you from burning the shit out of your hands like the slim old style and aluminum hand guards. You can thank me later, lol!
So you don't think an Mlok rail would be good?
@@projectredbeard2199 It'll allow you to add gadgets to the mlok but that alu rail will get hot fast, that's the trade off nobody talks about. The ac unity has sling qd mounts and I just attached a lil small section of pic rail on my plastic hand guard to mount light to.
@White Rabbit ahh gotchya. I'll have to look at those as well, my only concern is I'd like to have the option to put a bipod on it as well.
@@projectredbeard2199 AC Unity wide handguard works with the HK91 bipod
I love my PTR32 had it for about 6 years and it just runs. Got mine new for $899 and nobody seemed to know about these. I put original g3 wood furniture on mine for that original old school battle rifle look.
Nice! They really are awesome. They are art.
Mine is fucked up completely jammed wouldn't even cycle a mag gotta send it back
Dang, really? Did you purchase it new?
@@projectredbeard2199 yeah bro brand new used steel and brass cased and different magazines
@Beef Supreme dang... hopefully, they will get it straightened out for you. The only issue I've really heard of on these is if the locking piece is the wrong one, but that's not really a common thing. When you get it back, let me know what they say, im curious.
It seems like a good choice, but I'm afraid of getting a lemon.
The gen 2s are pretty solid. I haven't heard of many issues at all with the ptr 32
@@projectredbeard2199 yeah. Besides, that's a biproduct of the internet age. We actually hear about the lemons, where it was all word of mouth thirty years ago.
Does the op rod reciprocate.
Negative. The charging handle is non reciprocating
For a soft'ish shooting gun it sure is pushing you back quite a bit
The recoil is soft it's just a different type of recoil. It's hard to explain. It is harder to grasp the concept without shooting one.
Would you recommend this or a Yugo m70 ?
Honestly, that depends on the purpose of the gun. If you want a lightweight gun that has been proven all over the world, the m70. If you want a gun to squeeze the most accuracy out of the 7.62x39 and don't care about the weight, then the ptr 32. The AK trigger is usually pretty good. The PTR is a heavy but crisp trigger. What role are you trying to fill?
@@projectredbeard2199 so I currently own a Zpap92 pistol, I never owned a rifle AK variant but I’d like to for sure, Accuracy is a must in any platform I get, I believe in having a pistol version of your rifle just in case something happens but also for CQB (hypothetically) which is why I have a Zpap 92 and before that a real Romanian Draco (12.5 inch) My rule of thumb; one is none and two is one, I love that the PTR 32 uses AK mags and I’m itching for a rifle at this point however the M70’s I’m torn between happen to be a wooden fixed stock or magpul furniture/ folding stock, with the wood grain fixed stock JMAC Customs has an adapter that allows for Sig and Sig style folding stocks so if I dont like the fixed stock I have a more of a compact option to add on, Wasr 10 is also another decent option but of course it would be the cheapest amongst the two however I want a longer barrel for accuracy with the possibility to have a folding stock but would you rather carry a PTR 32 and a 556 rifle or an AK and a 556 rifle ?
@Vanguard Gaming gotchya, so for me, I don't own a 556 anymore, I probably should, but I sold mine because I had way more 308 and 7.62x39 ammo so I just stuck with those. The ak platform is plenty accurate and more accurate than most people think. We have some PSA GF3 aks, and they are awesome aks, 300 yards with a micro red dot all day long. The PTR32 is just stupid accurate, like 1 moa with TulAmmo, that's why I made it my DMR rifle. If you want an all-purpose rifle, then an AK is probably the way to go. I have not run a Zpap, so i dont really have an opinion on them, but the M70s are gtg, and if you want to save some more money or put more money in ammo, maybe take a look at the psa Ak47, forged trunion, bolt, and BCG. I honestly think I just seen them have some blemished gf3s for like 599. But if you want to stick traditional import, then m70.
@@VanguardxGaming The WASR10 and the ZPAPM70. They are pretty darn good choices; I should know, I have them both.
@@projectredbeard2199 I've had some interest in the PTR 32 even though I don't own one. Perhaps the IWI Galil ACE maybe some time.
Would it accept ak drums or is the mag well incompatible with those? And what the thread pitch for muzzle device's?
The thread pitch is Standard 5/8-24. As for the drum mag, I am not sure, I don't run any of those.
Drums will not fit
I'm sorry I bought one to give it a try but I went back to my AKs didn't even want it fell through such a huge heavy piece of s*** lol
While it is definitely heavier than an AK the accuracy is crazy for a 7.62x39 caliber rifle and even crazier to note that that is still with cheap steel cased ammo
HK47!
I have one and I don't think it's better than an AK at all. More magazine and and ammunition sensitive than any AK I've ever run as well as heavier. Fun gun but it's obvious why the Finns stuck with their Valmets instead of going with these.
@dbmail545 Mine hasn't been ammo sensitive at all. Accuracy wise, at range, it is far superior to the AK. Heavy? In a way. I now have it configured as a true DMR and it works that niche very nicely. The AK does have its advantages don't get me wrong.
Seems it would be worth it to get an adjustable stock and Trigger Job done on it.
An adjustable stock would be cool, but idk why I kinda like this one lol. And for the trigger, I'm not really sure there is a whole lot of options, I know there used to be a guy people talked about that did hk trigger jobs but I can't remember the name and I think it was like $300. The trigger is heavy but very crisp.
@@projectredbeard2199 Bill Springfield still does Trigger Work I believe. Its like an $80 dollar job or $300 for a new one already done.
@Sense Offender Yeah, that's the guy lol. I may do that. I need to get a few more things, though, before I do.
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If you think that pellet rifle is heavy maybe you should lay off the cheese burgers dough boy
Steve did you just call one of your own kind a dough boy? Lol
In my opinion he should learn to count his rounds and not worry about being obese
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I've always hated you
He also said the sun was beating on his face. Lmao!
The ptr 32 is a 9lb rifle bare throw an optic on it, throw an base on it and throw a full mag and you are at almost 14lbs. Idc what you think that is heavy for a 7.62x39 rifle. Period. An AK with a full mag is 7.5lbs
@John Outdoors I never count rounds. Why remove mental concentration away from your target? The HK design does not lock to the rear. The mag that I reinsert had a primer that did not ignite, so I dropped the mag out, and as it was falling, I seen there were a few rounds left. I had already fire a majority of that mag, and obviously if I wasn't just out shooting, it would have not been re-inserted. Also, yes, the sun was directly in front of me, it didn't mean I couldn't hit my target, I just clearly stated that I wish I had some coverage to ease in visibility.