"But its complex narrative structure may make it difficult for it to appeal to viewers not already familiar with the source material..." I had never heard or read any Watchen before seeing this movie and I loved it on first watch, even more when I saw the Ultimate Cut with the comic animated movie "Tales of the Black Freighter" in it and. I strongly believe that this movie paved the way for the more modern comics books movies we see nowadays
Literally Spider-Man 2 and the Dark Knight trilogy did that. Watchmen didn't do jackshit. If anything it provved that making artificially accurate adaptations doesn't make for good superhero movies neither. It's a soulless adaptation that completely misses the point of the source material(a deconstructin of conventional heroes) almost to the point it does the exact opposite of it(yet another movie that glorifies vigilantism and makes heroes look "badass").
@@tarnishedpose dude, he said he did NOT read the comics, and that is how the movie was superb. You mentioned - a deconstruction of conventional heroes - that is completely how I see the movie, like the Comedian - he is in no way glorified and I would even say that he is shown to be a total oppressor and yet he is also complex and despite being the oppressor - he is still right in particular moments as he sees the straight view of how things are and not the illusion that the other heroes live in.
I actually 100 percent agree with his statement. The biggest exposure to comic book films for me at the time were Spiderman/Hulk/Xmen. This was right when Films like 300 and Sin City were just getting the foot in the door for people who weren't used to Adult Superhero Films. I wasn't a fan who knew the Comic,I was just a kid who wanted to see a fun superhero romp during a holiday break and ended up just kinda bored and uncomfortable.
I don’t care what anyone says, I’ve enjoyed all versions of this film. I can’t watch it non stop like some movies, but every once in awhile it’s great.
Indeed. Additionally, I don't quite understand the critiques about the complexity of the story and what not. While not trying to blow smoke up my own ass, I didn't have any issue following the story on the first viewing at all IIRC.
@@zymethamp6596 No, it doesn't - But an admirable attempt at bringing one of the greatest comic storylines to screen in just 2hr 35 minutes does make it a great movie. It's a much better movie than anything Marvel is currently putting out.
The Ultimate Cut are the best version. It has the Director's Cut with Tales of the Black Freighter spliced within the film. Jackie Earl Haley was the best of an awesome cast.
Watchmen is, in my opinion, one of the greatest superhero movies ever made! Yes there are flaws but it’s a beautifully shot movie with great performances. Specifically Jackie Earle Haley as Rorschach. His performance is up there with Heath Ledgers Joker.
This was the first R-rated movie I saw in theaters. I saw it with my dad for my 17th birthday. If you have seen this movie, then I guess you can say I really know how to pick 'em, lol. Superhero sex, giant blue man walking around with no draws on, super bloody, etc. It was a cool theater experience though.
Your dads a dork dude. Gou couldntwatch Rated R movie's before your 17th birthday. I remember watching the rape scene in Henry Potrait of a Serial Killer incuding the necrophila and kid getting his neck broken. When i was 6 yrs old. Tgat scene has been burned into my head for life it was fantastic
I think its Zach's best film. No one was more surprised than me that it was good. I mean, I thought it was impossible to film. I still think everyone should read the book for the added layers as there is no replacement. Its so thick and layered. But that the movie is as good as it is...Its a minor miracle. Also the intro is one of my fave film intros. The choice of Times They are A Changin with like the condensed history to introduce audiences. Great stuff. A little like the V for Vendetta movie I think that the movie and books can supplement each other.
I remember this movie for a couple of reasons one Doctor Manhattan walking around Vietnam disintegrating people like the Jolly Green Giant or the Jolly Blue Giant. And Rorschach saying, I'm not lock in here with you you're lock in here with me.
Man after reading through the comments this films still really hated or loved. Don’t get the hate myself, I enjoyed it. Wasn’t perfect but I can rewatch it no problem. I bought it, should say enough.
I loved that Vietnam flashback scene in which the Comedian and Manhattan were chilling in a Saigon bar, and then all hell breaks loose in a matter of seconds once that Vietnamese lady carrying Comedians baby, slashes his face and then gets shot by Blake. The fact that a God like Manhattan, just stood and did nothing, instead of using his powers to reverse it, shows the audience that he no longer gives a crap about humanity, and Eddie is the only Watchman bold or honest enough, to tell him. The fact that Manhattan reminisced that one instance, showed that he respected the Comedian, despite him being a sociopathic murderer and rapist.
"A Masterpiece ", in my opinion. As a huge comics fan, didn't know about this brand before the film. I loved it. Getting to learn about each characters throughout the movie, was a blast. A flick for the adult comics fans.
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I went to see this movie at my local theater when it was released. Prior to watching the trailer to it I knew nothing about Watchmen. So after watching the trailer I went out and bought the graphic novel read it through and loved it. When the movie was finally released I went to see it and loved it too. It's not as bad as people make it to be.
This is actually one of My favorites. Considering the scope of the original graphic novel Zack did a great job of condensing it. You would need a mini-series cover everything in it. I didn't care for Malin Ackerman, but I love the rest of the cast. I think Hilary Swank would have made a better Silk Spectre. I've seen the Director's Cut but plan on getting the Ultimate Cut.
I liked it and still rewatch it from time to time. I get Alan Moores dislike of the expansions and adaptations but I think this did the source material justice and is a visual treat.
The watchmen is a masterpiece in graphic novel representation. He nails everything - character, plot, score, visuals, tone. Maybe there are pacing issues but, when you're watching a film this good, I don't mind it taking time with itself
I think the bottom line is where comicbook movies like The Avengers and Justice League are exactly that, they are "movies" that are designed for some mindless spectacular fun with a simple to follow storyline (which I do love as well but just in a different mind set), Watchmen is a "film" designed for a patient complicated thinker who is unintimidated by artistic nudity and can let a story evolve without an explosion every five minutes or large amounts of Riddilen. I loved it when it came out. I loved the extended version and I am shocked how poorly received it was rated it is as I rate it somewherebetween Batman Begins and Dark Knight. I'm certain that my perception might have a great deal to do with that fact that I have yet to read the graphic novels if compared to the hardcore fans but I also think if compared to the comic movie fan I have a greater tolerance for a slow burn and am less homophobia then others in the Audience pool, as I cannot say how many times I heard "there was way too much blue dong" or " it went way too slow" my my guy friends.
I saw this opening weekend with two friends of mine. We all loved it! Say what you will about Zack Snyder. I, love his work. I bought the graphic novel a few weeks before the movie came out. For me, it was a chore to read. I could barely get through it in time! But Snyder's version. I can sit and watch the director's cut no problem. I've watched it at least 10 times. Jackie Earl Haley is AMAZING in this movie. That prison mess hall scene, *chef's kiss.* Jeffery Dean Morgan is not too far behind performance wise. This film may have a lot of haters. But I LOVE it!
@RandomHero88 I had read the graphic novel years before and pretty much agreed with the "un-filmable" consensus, but figured with Zack Snyder helming it would at the very least look fantastic. Which it does. But it's the casting that blew me away; impeccable choices all around, none more so than Jackie Earle Hailey! Notably during the prison riot, when he snarls "Where's my *face* ?" there's so much anguish and menace conveyed in those three simple words; he so truly and completely inhabited the character of Walter Kovacks, it's astounding!
Snyder likes to incorporate themes and allegories that go against the grain. Which people conveniently ignore as they bitch and moan about petty shit. And let's face it, DC fans are notoriously more childish than Marvel fans; all in all.
I loved the movie, and went out and bought the graphic novel. I have never really read comics, and I think I would have been lost trying to read it if I hadn't seen the film.
I was an avid comic book reader/collector in the 90s. I never heard of Watchmen. I saw the movie awhile after it came out (the Director’s Cut) and have loved it since day one. It’s been in my home library ever since. I don’t have the creator’s bias but I definitely sympathize with him not liking adaptions of his work if they aren’t up to his standard. Um...who was the TV series “extremely well received” by? Every review, every comment, every opinion I’ve ever heard about it has ripped it apart, not just for its horrific writing and wasted cast, but for its overtly woke storytelling and character destruction.
This is the first hardcore R-Rated movie I've ever seen. I couldn't even finish watching the first time It forever changed my life and the way I used to see the world I even made short films because of this movie
I don’t get the criticism when it’s an accurate adaptation with a few minor changes since if they just 100% copied it then what would be the point of the original adaptation when I could just watch the film or show its trying to adapt if it’s fully accurate?
Honestly I don’t understand the hatred from Moore. Snyder and crew showed a lot of respect for the source material and didn’t butcher it. Few differences for sure but it’s a very faithful adaptation. I watched the movie first and when I got the Novel I was stunned by all of the similarities in dialogue and scene framing etc.
I got into all of those reality-bending, anarchic, subversive graphic novel titles and their authors at around the same time owing directly to my discovery during a conversation with a like-minded person at a party of the identification of those authors with magick. Obviously "Watchmen" stood out like a floating gorilla's finger floating in the darkness against a black wall covered in faintly-carved sigils. It was bloody awesome and as soon as I found out that a film had been made about it, I rented it and watched it twice before returning it the following day. I didn't watch it twice because I thought it captured the essence of the graphic novels well or because the story line and its execution on celluloid carried anything close to the same degree of excitement. It was apparent to me before (jeez, I might be wrong and it might not have been THIS long ago, but the memory seems to be there) I slid the VHS cassette into the slot that to capture the madness that was "Watchmen" was a feat comparable with changing your feet for another pair without removing your shoes first. It was comparatively slow and although well cool, Rorschach was just not at all as messed-up and perplexing in his complexity as a character as the novels made him out to be. In fact, none of the characters really were, and honestly, now, how the hell could they have been? Those anti/superheroes are possessed of levels of complexity that I can't really imagine anyone other than Alan Moore could combine without completely alienating his readers. Combine that with all the hell so many people went through trying to get the film made and in theaters with the correct rating and at an appropriate runtime, and what you have is basically a miracle. That the movie was made at all is mind blowing. And so to this day, I still watch it again here and there, warts and all. There are scenes I want to leap out of my seat and act out with the players. I remember all the crappy reviews and basic box office failures that accompanied its release, but I don't really care. I love that it exists at all.
I hate Zack Snyder movies, especially his DC projects. But, this is not only this a legit great superhero movie, I honestly prefer this over the graphic novel because of how it improves the ending.
@@meatisomalley Changing the monster attack to explosions framing Doctor Manhattan both ties the story together better and provides a more legitimate threat for the world to unite against.
Literally not. The point of the monsters is that it's an alien threat. It's the fear of the unknown come to reality and for all humans know, it's coming for everyone. No politics of any shape matter. It's something that cannot be traced back to any party, ideology or culture in particular. Making it so it is Manhattan takes this away. Because being the "God is real and he is AMERICAN " character goes against it Jon was a human, an american, from the US, the home of modern capitalism. He worked with the US goverment for years. It doesn't matter that Manhattan is now no longer human and does not feel like he has anything that bounds him to mankind... The history of his existence cannot be erased. What makes you think the eastern countries would be so quick to forget about it? Just look at real life. What happened in Chernobyl and how it was seen from the western side. Or hell... anything at all. Germany and the Nazis. the URSS with Stalin. The US and how they get their on every country they feel like. The brits, the french, the spanish and their colonization all over the world. People don't forget jackshit. It's the clash of socio-political ideologies and that it seems like humans can't get past it and reconcile what's putting the world at the edge of global catastrophe. So it makes no sense that this threat(Manhattan being the one behind the attacks) would be a reason for the entire world to put their beef aside and "unite". Not when one of the party(the USA) involved has such an obvious connection to the threat itself.
After not reading the graphic novel for years, I saw the movie and loved it. Then I finally got the GN and loved that too. Had no idea there was an "ultimate" cut...
2:49 What?!?! I've read all over about Moore's disconnection from the movies but never heard of this before. Larry Cohen? Script? Cast of characters? Fox? What?? Please explain.
I've read the comic before watching the movie and, despite them being both really good, I slightly prefer the movie, one of the few instances of me preferring the video rather than the page (Blade Runner perhaps being the only other one). I really enjoyed watching this movie, because it catched what I liked about the comic, left out what I didn't like much and delivered a perfect Rorschach. A shame that the movie didn't earn as much recognition as it deserved.
I watched possibly THE WORLD's most conservatively cut version of Watchmen on an Emirates flight and damn if I didn't feel totally transported by it from the opening credits. Something about flying at 40,000 feet makes you understand Dr Manhattan's tastefully-loin-clothed perspective
Absolutely loved Rorschach, also absolutely hated Dr Manhattan..... One had no powers but fought crime, the other had powers and used them to slaughter millions on a belief and had no humanity left in him, Dr Manhattan actually felt himself to be God so only simply did as he felt like. And nobody can say "by killing many you saved more" because that was only a theory of theirs, it doesn't mean it'd happened. Even "the worlds smartest man" isn't always right. He's just a freak who ended up with too much power and absolutely no soul. The plot is just so stupid really, they could have ended it in 2 minutes by the blue freak blowing up everything all over and then turning him into the villain without trying to make it into such a "plot".
I remember not liking watchmen when I first seen it but now it's my favorite comic book movie I think it probably would have had more impact had it come out 10 years later during the height of the MCU
I just rewatched this and I do think it is a flawed classic. There are some sequences that are amazing but definitely some slop too. As a whole I think it’s very effective.
Alan Moore was possibly the greatest ever comic book writer (Halo Jones is my fave) and I treasure his work. He was treated so badly by both the comics industry and the movie industry. Having said that I still absolutely love the film.
I never did recognize Jeffrey Dean Morgan as 'The Comedian'... He looks a lot different, I guess it was a long time ago, and back then I wasn't looking for Jeffrey in anything... It wasn't until TWD and beyond that he was on my radar. His role in this movie and the TWD were amazing, he truly knows how to embody a character to bring it to life on screen. There's some actors where they either play themselves in every single movie or the same character regardless of the movie/script.
"But it's complex narrative structure may make it difficult for it to appeal to viewers not already familiar with the source material" And people wonder why I ignore the critics. Honestly I'm MORE likely to watch a movie with a poor critical score.
Watchmen did for super hero movies that Police Squad did for comedy films... Underrated and unwatched but paving the way for many (often inferior) entertainment later on.
Loved the movie, and I was ok with the changes from the graphic novel. My only beef was with Rorschach towards the end of the movie where he is confronted by Dr. Manhattan. In the movie it seems he is near tears when he says "do it", Rorschach being Rorschach he should have growled it defiantly.
I’ve always said it and I always will, the watchmen movie is one of the best and by far the most comic accurate and faithful CBM’s ever made. People will just regurgitate what they’ve heard others say about it being “a critique of superheroes” and go with that. It’s so fantastic and visually stunning. I can’t even read the comic without hearing the movie in my head.
Accurate and faithful is a bit of a stretch - yes, a lot of the visuals are reproduced, but a lot of the context is lost in translation - for example, part of the point of the graphic novel is that, with the possible exception of Veidt/Ozymandias, there was only one super-being in the entire setting: Jon Osterman/Dr Manhattan (okay, and the one psychic whose brain was cloned for the squid). Meanwhile, in the movie, all the costumed crime-fighters have superhuman strength and endurance... And then there's the big, obvious change - replacing the space squid with Doctor Manhattan (and, in the process, replacing Manhattan with dozens of cities world-wide). I can see arguments for being unable to squeeze the necessary setup into a single move (or, if whoever made the call missed the setup in the original, considering it an absurd deus ex machina) but I'm not convinced that a rogue American terrorist with the powers of a god makes for as convincing a global rallying point as an interdimensional Lovecratian horror...
@@rmsgreyYou forgot how Nite Owl and Silk Spectre II casually dropped a whole gang of armed thugs without a scratch first time fighting again, years after the Keene Act?
With offbeat superhero-related material like this and *The Boys* both successful, I'd like to see Marvel adapt both their *Squadron Supreme* and *The Twelve* miniseries ... could be just the shakeup the MCU needs.
Im a huge fan of the Watchmen comics and I thouht the film, especially the Ultimate cut did justice to it, the end change I was not so fond of but could see why they did it. On the whole it stays pretty close to the source material, more so than most, if not all of the MCU superhero films, so as a comic fan that pleased me more.
I remember finding the original graphic novel, when I was working for enterprise rent a car, maybe a year ar two b4 the movie dropped, was actually a dope read. Not sure why people don't like it. It definitely stayed true to the story almost verbatim. As it is itself a controversial story it is only natural for not to be received by everyone the same. As an 80s baby I like to see these types of things at least given a shot once sequels are not necessary
It probably would look silly. So using Dr Manhatten as enemy seems a good solution. Also in movie you usually do not introduce a plot twist without previous introduction. So you would have to show the bioengineering, but the movie was already quite long.
Neverever seen a novel or anything related to the Watchmen - but the movie made a big impact. I really liked the movie. I have though not watched it thru that many times, due it having quite a runtime.. But, with that being said; I really oughta now take tumento watch it thru again.
So much in the comic you would have to make a 2 or 3 part movie. With that said Zach Snyder and the writers did a great job and it does basically tell the story. I wish it would include the original ending with the squid.
At some point Joblo will need to switch its emphasis on a product's quality from "critics' reviews" to "audience reviews", specially always basing that on Rotten Tomatoes. The TV show may have received wide praise from the former but not from the latter, leading to its cancellation. It was pretty bad.
Probably my all time favorite movie . I think people complain about it for the sake of complaining. Though I didn't like the ultimate cut, I felt the cartoon scenes threw off the pace of the film.
06:30 Yo, that's how they slickly holster a weapon into an awkward back holster/scabbard in movies?! Now Imma have to try not to chuckle every time I see that in a scene, thinking about how there's some person crouched back there to grab it and hold it against the actor's back... 😮😂🤣
Honestly I feel a different director should've handled Watchmen, Snyder's style doesn't lend itself to the type of story Watchman has. I do enjoy the movie, it's well directed, well acted, well shot, I even feel it is one of Snyder's best work. When I read the comic, stylish isn't the word i would use to describe it, yes i know it's an adaptation, a translation but when Silk Spectre and Nite owl fight in the prison, or Rorschach fighting Ozymandias I never pictured martial artists. Skilled fighters but not martial artists, but i get Snyder wanted cool. Somebody like Nolan, Sam Mendes, or Scorcese should've directed it, somebody less concerned about looking cool.
I found the movie to be fine. I saw it in theaters and was excited to get some real anti hero super heroes. I did not like it enough to read the graphic novel. I adore the tv series so much I read the graphic novel right after. I appreciate and enjoy the movie so much more now as well.
Wow no offense to Wilson, Goode, or Ackerman... maybe a little offense to Ackerman, but now I'm curious what an alternate version of Nite Owl, Silk Spectre 2, and Ozymandias would've been like if they had cast with Rachel Weiss, Kevin Costner, and Jude Law.
Comic book movies are, well, I'll shut up. I remember enjoying this because it was otherworldly and had a "different-ish" story. A good looking production and some very talented people, Haley most assuredly, occupying the space...
The opening montage of Watchmen is one of the best opening montage of any film I've ever seen.
Overall I really liked the movie.
Awsome film the use of bob dylans song the times they are a changeing was a really good song choice Also have the graphic novel
Facts
@@spodoinklehorse The film gets so much hate but it really captured a strong sense of innocence lost which for me was one takeaway from the comic.
@@ianedmonds9191 I went to see it in the cinema having just seen the ad on telly, I had no idea what it was about and that intro just blew my mind
absolutely!
"But its complex narrative structure may make it difficult for it to appeal to viewers not already familiar with the source material..."
I had never heard or read any Watchen before seeing this movie and I loved it on first watch, even more when I saw the Ultimate Cut with the comic animated movie "Tales of the Black Freighter" in it and.
I strongly believe that this movie paved the way for the more modern comics books movies we see nowadays
Literally Spider-Man 2 and the Dark Knight trilogy did that. Watchmen didn't do jackshit. If anything it provved that making artificially accurate adaptations doesn't make for good superhero movies neither. It's a soulless adaptation that completely misses the point of the source material(a deconstructin of conventional heroes) almost to the point it does the exact opposite of it(yet another movie that glorifies vigilantism and makes heroes look "badass").
@@tarnishedpose dude, he said he did NOT read the comics, and that is how the movie was superb. You mentioned - a deconstruction of conventional heroes - that is completely how I see the movie, like the Comedian - he is in no way glorified and I would even say that he is shown to be a total oppressor and yet he is also complex and despite being the oppressor - he is still right in particular moments as he sees the straight view of how things are and not the illusion that the other heroes live in.
@@tarnishedpose bet you’re a huge HBO Watchman fan? 😂
I actually 100 percent agree with his statement.
The biggest exposure to comic book films for me at the time were Spiderman/Hulk/Xmen.
This was right when Films like 300 and Sin City were just getting the foot in the door for people who weren't used to Adult Superhero Films. I wasn't a fan who knew the Comic,I was just a kid who wanted to see a fun superhero romp during a holiday break and ended up just kinda bored and uncomfortable.
Same thought.
I don’t care what anyone says, I’ve enjoyed all versions of this film. I can’t watch it non stop like some movies, but every once in awhile it’s great.
Same
I agree ENTIRELY.
@Dr. Octogon That's how good taste works.
Agreed. I watch it about once a year and enjoy it every time.
It's by far my favourite Superhero movie.
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I remember watching this in theaters and feeling like, "Why aren't more people talking about this movie?"
Indeed.
Additionally, I don't quite understand the critiques about the complexity of the story and what not. While not trying to blow smoke up my own ass, I didn't have any issue following the story on the first viewing at all IIRC.
Because it's not very good.
@@macramequeenintheafternoon727 Excuse me? Some arguments would be appreciated.
Some very good clips mixed in with alot of boring, uninteresting stuffs don't make a great movie.
@@zymethamp6596 No, it doesn't - But an admirable attempt at bringing one of the greatest comic storylines to screen in just 2hr 35 minutes does make it a great movie.
It's a much better movie than anything Marvel is currently putting out.
The Ultimate Cut are the best version. It has the Director's Cut with Tales of the Black Freighter spliced within the film. Jackie Earl Haley was the best of an awesome cast.
I agree the Ultimate Cut is the best :P
I thought the ultimate cut was good, but when you watch it you also realize why they cut all that stuff out.
Agreed…
Agreed with the Ultimate Cut & Jackie Earl Haley.
Don't forget the DVD'S with the extra stuff. For the superman that's like over 8 hours of 😀
Watchmen is, in my opinion, one of the greatest superhero movies ever made! Yes there are flaws but it’s a beautifully shot movie with great performances. Specifically Jackie Earle Haley as Rorschach. His performance is up there with Heath Ledgers Joker.
This was the first R-rated movie I saw in theaters. I saw it with my dad for my 17th birthday. If you have seen this movie, then I guess you can say I really know how to pick 'em, lol. Superhero sex, giant blue man walking around with no draws on, super bloody, etc. It was a cool theater experience though.
Your dads a dork dude. Gou couldntwatch Rated R movie's before your 17th birthday. I remember watching the rape scene in Henry Potrait of a Serial Killer incuding the necrophila and kid getting his neck broken. When i was 6 yrs old. Tgat scene has been burned into my head for life it was fantastic
I saw it with my dad as well. We had both been fans of the comic. My dad was pumped at the end! We loved it.
I think its Zach's best film. No one was more surprised than me that it was good. I mean, I thought it was impossible to film. I still think everyone should read the book for the added layers as there is no replacement. Its so thick and layered. But that the movie is as good as it is...Its a minor miracle. Also the intro is one of my fave film intros. The choice of Times They are A Changin with like the condensed history to introduce audiences. Great stuff. A little like the V for Vendetta movie I think that the movie and books can supplement each other.
I remember this movie for a couple of reasons one Doctor Manhattan walking around Vietnam disintegrating people like the Jolly Green Giant or the Jolly Blue Giant. And Rorschach saying, I'm not lock in here with you you're lock in here with me.
The scene where Rorschach was waiting for the little man and the goons to saw their way into his jail cell only to be taken down was cool
Man after reading through the comments this films still really hated or loved. Don’t get the hate myself, I enjoyed it. Wasn’t perfect but I can rewatch it no problem. I bought it, should say enough.
I loved that Vietnam flashback scene in which the Comedian and Manhattan were chilling in a Saigon bar, and then all hell breaks loose in a matter of seconds once that Vietnamese lady carrying Comedians baby, slashes his face and then gets shot by Blake.
The fact that a God like Manhattan, just stood and did nothing, instead of using his powers to reverse it, shows the audience that he no longer gives a crap about humanity, and Eddie is the only Watchman bold or honest enough, to tell him. The fact that Manhattan reminisced that one instance, showed that he respected the Comedian, despite him being a sociopathic murderer and rapist.
I seriously don't understand the hate this movie gets. It's literally the most faithful screen adaptation of any comic movie.
My favorite of Zack Snyder's films. I was already having super hero fatigue back then and it was a breath of fresh air.
Summarized my thoughts exactly.
Jackie Haley is brilliant in everything he’s in, from the classic The Bad News Bears, to today.
Not elm st nothing was good about that remake
Not enough love for him. He was good in preacher too
"A Masterpiece ", in my opinion.
As a huge comics fan, didn't know about this brand before the film. I loved it. Getting to learn about each characters throughout the movie, was a blast.
A flick for the adult comics fans.
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I went to see this movie at my local theater when it was released. Prior to watching the trailer to it I knew nothing about Watchmen. So after watching the trailer I went out and bought the graphic novel read it through and loved it. When the movie was finally released I went to see it and loved it too. It's not as bad as people make it to be.
This is actually one of My favorites. Considering the scope of the original graphic novel Zack did a great job of condensing it. You would need a mini-series cover everything in it. I didn't care for Malin Ackerman, but I love the rest of the cast. I think Hilary Swank would have made a better Silk Spectre. I've seen the Director's Cut but plan on getting the Ultimate Cut.
I liked it and still rewatch it from time to time. I get Alan Moores dislike of the expansions and adaptations but I think this did the source material justice and is a visual treat.
I remember when this movie was coming out. I was in 8th grade, and remember all the trailers
That trailer with the Smashing Pumpkins song is ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
The watchmen is a masterpiece in graphic novel representation. He nails everything - character, plot, score, visuals, tone. Maybe there are pacing issues but, when you're watching a film this good, I don't mind it taking time with itself
Always has been my favorite superhero movie of all time. It was interesting to see a video that discusses the various controversies.
Imagine if Alan Moore was the creator of Black Panther he would downright hate Wakanda Forever and i would love to see his take on Ryan Cooglar
Hands down ...
BEST MOVIE OF 2009
It's Good film on its own but not a good adaptation
@@aaroncrilly2005 It is the best adaptation.
@@FirstnameLastname-my7bz it's the best adaptation, but its not on point yet...but still a great effort from Snyder and co.
This and Man of Steel are two reasons I'll NEVER side with Snyder naysayers.
@@domymbd It is absolutely on point
Jeffery Dean Morgan went on to play one other significant comic book character.. hmmm who was that again? Can’t quite remember…SPLAT!
I fucking love the extended cut of this movie with the black freighter. One of my favorite movies
I think the bottom line is where comicbook movies like The Avengers and Justice League are exactly that, they are "movies" that are designed for some mindless spectacular fun with a simple to follow storyline (which I do love as well but just in a different mind set), Watchmen is a "film" designed for a patient complicated thinker who is unintimidated by artistic nudity and can let a story evolve without an explosion every five minutes or large amounts of Riddilen.
I loved it when it came out. I loved the extended version and I am shocked how poorly received it was rated it is as I rate it somewherebetween Batman Begins and Dark Knight. I'm certain that my perception might have a great deal to do with that fact that I have yet to read the graphic novels if compared to the hardcore fans but I also think if compared to the comic movie fan I have a greater tolerance for a slow burn and am less homophobia then others in the Audience pool, as I cannot say how many times I heard "there was way too much blue dong" or " it went way too slow" my my guy friends.
I saw this opening weekend with two friends of mine. We all loved it! Say what you will about Zack Snyder. I, love his work. I bought the graphic novel a few weeks before the movie came out. For me, it was a chore to read. I could barely get through it in time! But Snyder's version. I can sit and watch the director's cut no problem. I've watched it at least 10 times. Jackie Earl Haley is AMAZING in this movie. That prison mess hall scene, *chef's kiss.* Jeffery Dean Morgan is not too far behind performance wise. This film may have a lot of haters. But I LOVE it!
@RandomHero88 I had read the graphic novel years before and pretty much agreed with the "un-filmable" consensus, but figured with Zack Snyder helming it would at the very least look fantastic. Which it does.
But it's the casting that blew me away; impeccable choices all around, none more so than Jackie Earle Hailey! Notably during the prison riot, when he snarls "Where's my *face* ?" there's so much anguish and menace conveyed in those three simple words; he so truly and completely inhabited the character of Walter Kovacks, it's astounding!
It's okay, Zack Snyder couldn't read the graphic novel either - he just looked at the pictures...
@@rmsgrey I did like them purdy pictures, yes.
Snyder likes to incorporate themes and allegories that go against the grain. Which people conveniently ignore as they bitch and moan about petty shit.
And let's face it, DC fans are notoriously more childish than Marvel fans; all in all.
I loved the movie, and went out and bought the graphic novel. I have never really read comics, and I think I would have been lost trying to read it if I hadn't seen the film.
Just Rewatched the extended cut last weekend..I still think it's the BEST SUPER HERO movie ever made.
I was an avid comic book reader/collector in the 90s. I never heard of Watchmen. I saw the movie awhile after it came out (the Director’s Cut) and have loved it since day one. It’s been in my home library ever since.
I don’t have the creator’s bias but I definitely sympathize with him not liking adaptions of his work if they aren’t up to his standard.
Um...who was the TV series “extremely well received” by? Every review, every comment, every opinion I’ve ever heard about it has ripped it apart, not just for its horrific writing and wasted cast, but for its overtly woke storytelling and character destruction.
This is the first hardcore R-Rated movie I've ever seen. I couldn't even finish watching the first time
It forever changed my life and the way I used to see the world
I even made short films because of this movie
The Cosmonauts Variety Show Guy...I hear your narration!
I don’t get the criticism when it’s an accurate adaptation with a few minor changes since if they just 100% copied it then what would be the point of the original adaptation when I could just watch the film or show its trying to adapt if it’s fully accurate?
Honestly I don’t understand the hatred from Moore. Snyder and crew showed a lot of respect for the source material and didn’t butcher it. Few differences for sure but it’s a very faithful adaptation. I watched the movie first and when I got the Novel I was stunned by all of the similarities in dialogue and scene framing etc.
All along the watchtower is a Jimmy Hendrix song.
One of my favourite movies and I think it was a great adaption from a graphic novel to film.
I got into all of those reality-bending, anarchic, subversive graphic novel titles and their authors at around the same time owing directly to my discovery during a conversation with a like-minded person at a party of the identification of those authors with magick. Obviously "Watchmen" stood out like a floating gorilla's finger floating in the darkness against a black wall covered in faintly-carved sigils. It was bloody awesome and as soon as I found out that a film had been made about it, I rented it and watched it twice before returning it the following day.
I didn't watch it twice because I thought it captured the essence of the graphic novels well or because the story line and its execution on celluloid carried anything close to the same degree of excitement. It was apparent to me before (jeez, I might be wrong and it might not have been THIS long ago, but the memory seems to be there) I slid the VHS cassette into the slot that to capture the madness that was "Watchmen" was a feat comparable with changing your feet for another pair without removing your shoes first. It was comparatively slow and although well cool, Rorschach was just not at all as messed-up and perplexing in his complexity as a character as the novels made him out to be. In fact, none of the characters really were, and honestly, now, how the hell could they have been? Those anti/superheroes are possessed of levels of complexity that I can't really imagine anyone other than Alan Moore could combine without completely alienating his readers. Combine that with all the hell so many people went through trying to get the film made and in theaters with the correct rating and at an appropriate runtime, and what you have is basically a miracle. That the movie was made at all is mind blowing.
And so to this day, I still watch it again here and there, warts and all. There are scenes I want to leap out of my seat and act out with the players.
I remember all the crappy reviews and basic box office failures that accompanied its release, but I don't really care. I love that it exists at all.
I hate Zack Snyder movies, especially his DC projects. But, this is not only this a legit great superhero movie, I honestly prefer this over the graphic novel because of how it improves the ending.
Improves the ending? How so?
@@meatisomalley Changing the monster attack to explosions framing Doctor Manhattan both ties the story together better and provides a more legitimate threat for the world to unite against.
Literally not. The point of the monsters is that it's an alien threat. It's the fear of the unknown come to reality and for all humans know, it's coming for everyone. No politics of any shape matter. It's something that cannot be traced back to any party, ideology or culture in particular.
Making it so it is Manhattan takes this away. Because being the "God is real and he is AMERICAN " character goes against it Jon was a human, an american, from the US, the home of modern capitalism. He worked with the US goverment for years. It doesn't matter that Manhattan is now no longer human and does not feel like he has anything that bounds him to mankind... The history of his existence cannot be erased.
What makes you think the eastern countries would be so quick to forget about it? Just look at real life. What happened in Chernobyl and how it was seen from the western side. Or hell... anything at all. Germany and the Nazis. the URSS with Stalin. The US and how they get their on every country they feel like. The brits, the french, the spanish and their colonization all over the world. People don't forget jackshit.
It's the clash of socio-political ideologies and that it seems like humans can't get past it and reconcile what's putting the world at the edge of global catastrophe. So it makes no sense that this threat(Manhattan being the one behind the attacks) would be a reason for the entire world to put their beef aside and "unite". Not when one of the party(the USA) involved has such an obvious connection to the threat itself.
The Ultimate DVD Box Set is one my favorite possessions
After not reading the graphic novel for years, I saw the movie and loved it. Then I finally got the GN and loved that too. Had no idea there was an "ultimate" cut...
2:49 What?!?! I've read all over about Moore's disconnection from the movies but never heard of this before. Larry Cohen? Script? Cast of characters? Fox? What?? Please explain.
I've read the comic before watching the movie and, despite them being both really good, I slightly prefer the movie, one of the few instances of me preferring the video rather than the page (Blade Runner perhaps being the only other one). I really enjoyed watching this movie, because it catched what I liked about the comic, left out what I didn't like much and delivered a perfect Rorschach. A shame that the movie didn't earn as much recognition as it deserved.
I watched possibly THE WORLD's most conservatively cut version of Watchmen on an Emirates flight and damn if I didn't feel totally transported by it from the opening credits. Something about flying at 40,000 feet makes you understand Dr Manhattan's tastefully-loin-clothed perspective
I believe The Losers and Jonah Hex are the DC movies that came out after Watchmen.... Not Green Lantern.
Great production this time around, very solid
Watchmen was so slow going. Then I realize Zack Snyder adapted the graphic novel panel by panel.
Memba when DC cared about great storytelling?
A great version of a well crafted story.
Absolutely loved Rorschach, also absolutely hated Dr Manhattan.....
One had no powers but fought crime, the other had powers and used them to slaughter millions on a belief and had no humanity left in him, Dr Manhattan actually felt himself to be God so only simply did as he felt like.
And nobody can say "by killing many you saved more" because that was only a theory of theirs, it doesn't mean it'd happened.
Even "the worlds smartest man" isn't always right.
He's just a freak who ended up with too much power and absolutely no soul.
The plot is just so stupid really, they could have ended it in 2 minutes by the blue freak blowing up everything all over and then turning him into the villain without trying to make it into such a "plot".
I got to watch in ahead of time and really enjoyed the movie, the director's cut is a must it fills in some holes left out.
Michael Bays watchmen? Throwing up in my mouth just thinking about it
0:12 a little to dark in terms of colour as the main colour of the comic being yellow is completely muted
Is it the blue balls then. He really should get some relief.
The choice to NOTE include "you're my thrill" was batshit insane on Snyder's part.
My profile pic is an adaptation of one of the original panels. Yay!
Loved the movie. Hoping a sequel could come some day
I remember not liking watchmen when I first seen it but now it's my favorite comic book movie I think it probably would have had more impact had it come out 10 years later during the height of the MCU
I just rewatched this and I do think it is a flawed classic. There are some sequences that are amazing but definitely some slop too. As a whole I think it’s very effective.
Jackie Earle Haley steals the show.
I personally love this film, but I can see why isnt for everyone, like an Avengers movie.
I love the film also.Some people might find it hard to follow.
The Dirctor's Cut... Pretty Great... to Me
Alan Moore was possibly the greatest ever comic book writer (Halo Jones is my fave) and I treasure his work. He was treated so badly by both the comics industry and the movie industry.
Having said that I still absolutely love the film.
I never did recognize Jeffrey Dean Morgan as 'The Comedian'... He looks a lot different, I guess it was a long time ago, and back then I wasn't looking for Jeffrey in anything... It wasn't until TWD and beyond that he was on my radar. His role in this movie and the TWD were amazing, he truly knows how to embody a character to bring it to life on screen. There's some actors where they either play themselves in every single movie or the same character regardless of the movie/script.
"But it's complex narrative structure may make it difficult for it to appeal to viewers not already familiar with the source material"
And people wonder why I ignore the critics. Honestly I'm MORE likely to watch a movie with a poor critical score.
They're not wrong
The first few minutes is a better movie than many full length films.
Agree, too bad the rest is a one confusing bore
My favorite comic book movies Joker, Logan and Watchmen
Watchmen did for super hero movies that Police Squad did for comedy films... Underrated and unwatched but paving the way for many (often inferior) entertainment later on.
2:34 🎅🏻 santa-claus
Ultimate cut was awesome
Jude Law as Ozymandious is inspiring casting
"While the cgi isn't flawless, it's still pretty good for 2009" you mean the same year Avatar came out?
Still bummed y'all skipped Shaq's magnum opus "Steel."
Loved the movie, and I was ok with the changes from the graphic novel. My only beef was with Rorschach towards the end of the movie where he is confronted by Dr. Manhattan. In the movie it seems he is near tears when he says "do it", Rorschach being Rorschach he should have growled it defiantly.
Consider: Kovacs had taken his mask off.
Kovacs knew he'd lived a life without compromise. But also a life without happiness.
This used to be my go to “movie on whippets and ketamine” or just to sleep
I've never read the graphic novel and didn't see the movie until about 2021 or so but I did enjoy the movie for what it was. I had no problem with it.
Best Intro in Movie-History
I’ve always said it and I always will, the watchmen movie is one of the best and by far the most comic accurate and faithful CBM’s ever made. People will just regurgitate what they’ve heard others say about it being “a critique of superheroes” and go with that. It’s so fantastic and visually stunning. I can’t even read the comic without hearing the movie in my head.
Accurate and faithful is a bit of a stretch - yes, a lot of the visuals are reproduced, but a lot of the context is lost in translation - for example, part of the point of the graphic novel is that, with the possible exception of Veidt/Ozymandias, there was only one super-being in the entire setting: Jon Osterman/Dr Manhattan (okay, and the one psychic whose brain was cloned for the squid). Meanwhile, in the movie, all the costumed crime-fighters have superhuman strength and endurance...
And then there's the big, obvious change - replacing the space squid with Doctor Manhattan (and, in the process, replacing Manhattan with dozens of cities world-wide). I can see arguments for being unable to squeeze the necessary setup into a single move (or, if whoever made the call missed the setup in the original, considering it an absurd deus ex machina) but I'm not convinced that a rogue American terrorist with the powers of a god makes for as convincing a global rallying point as an interdimensional Lovecratian horror...
@@rmsgreyYou forgot how Nite Owl and Silk Spectre II casually dropped a whole gang of armed thugs without a scratch first time fighting again, years after the Keene Act?
With offbeat superhero-related material like this and *The Boys* both successful, I'd like to see Marvel adapt both their *Squadron Supreme* and *The Twelve* miniseries ... could be just the shakeup the MCU needs.
Im a huge fan of the Watchmen comics and I thouht the film, especially the Ultimate cut did justice to it, the end change I was not so fond of but could see why they did it. On the whole it stays pretty close to the source material, more so than most, if not all of the MCU superhero films, so as a comic fan that pleased me more.
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The fact this is controversial but not the horrible tv show that rewrote entire characters is crazy.
Well I guess nobody cares for the show. That is irrelevant, Zac Snyders movie is not.
Another great JoBlo video.
I remember finding the original graphic novel, when I was working for enterprise rent a car, maybe a year ar two b4 the movie dropped, was actually a dope read. Not sure why people don't like it. It definitely stayed true to the story almost verbatim. As it is itself a controversial story it is only natural for not to be received by everyone the same. As an 80s baby I like to see these types of things at least given a shot once sequels are not necessary
The alien ending... would it have made it smarter? Or given up the game?
It probably would look silly. So using Dr Manhatten as enemy seems a good solution. Also in movie you usually do not introduce a plot twist without previous introduction. So you would have to show the bioengineering, but the movie was already quite long.
Neverever seen a novel or anything related to the Watchmen - but the movie made a big impact. I really liked the movie. I have though not watched it thru that many times, due it having quite a runtime.. But, with that being said; I really oughta now take tumento watch it thru again.
"Rorschach's journal: Oct 12, 1985" That was the day I first met my wife. How weird is that?
hmm now I wonder what Michael Bay's Watchmen would look like.
Watchman is one of my favorite superhero movie of all time ,it's beautifully dark
Saw it in the theater. I loved.
So much in the comic you would have to make a 2 or 3 part movie. With that said Zach Snyder and the writers did a great job and it does basically tell the story. I wish it would include the original ending with the squid.
5:47 brought in Alaze' to rewrite it. 😆 👍 Id need to drink too 😅
I always consider First, We Take Manhattan as the theme for Ozymandias.
At some point Joblo will need to switch its emphasis on a product's quality from "critics' reviews" to "audience reviews", specially always basing that on Rotten Tomatoes. The TV show may have received wide praise from the former but not from the latter, leading to its cancellation. It was pretty bad.
Probably my all time favorite movie . I think people complain about it for the sake of complaining. Though I didn't like the ultimate cut, I felt the cartoon scenes threw off the pace of the film.
06:30 Yo, that's how they slickly holster a weapon into an awkward back holster/scabbard in movies?! Now Imma have to try not to chuckle every time I see that in a scene, thinking about how there's some person crouched back there to grab it and hold it against the actor's back... 😮😂🤣
Honestly I feel a different director should've handled Watchmen, Snyder's style doesn't lend itself to the type of story Watchman has.
I do enjoy the movie, it's well directed, well acted, well shot, I even feel it is one of Snyder's best work. When I read the comic, stylish isn't the word i would use to describe it, yes i know it's an adaptation, a translation but when Silk Spectre and Nite owl fight in the prison, or Rorschach fighting Ozymandias I never pictured martial artists. Skilled fighters but not martial artists, but i get Snyder wanted cool.
Somebody like Nolan, Sam Mendes, or Scorcese should've directed it, somebody less concerned about looking cool.
I found the movie to be fine. I saw it in theaters and was excited to get some real anti hero super heroes. I did not like it enough to read the graphic novel.
I adore the tv series so much I read the graphic novel right after. I appreciate and enjoy the movie so much more now as well.
I will say for a movie that’s on a comic it’s great but when you read the comic it’ll definitely have moments that piss you off/rub you the wrong way
Wow no offense to Wilson, Goode, or Ackerman... maybe a little offense to Ackerman, but now I'm curious what an alternate version of Nite Owl, Silk Spectre 2, and Ozymandias would've been like if they had cast with Rachel Weiss, Kevin Costner, and Jude Law.
I can only imagine what Moore feels about the tv series…
Thought this movie was great when it first came out. Still think it's great.
Comic book movies are, well, I'll shut up. I remember enjoying this because it was otherworldly and had a "different-ish" story. A good looking production and some very talented people, Haley most assuredly, occupying the space...