I found even more issues with the iPhone 16 Pro camera. The hits just keep coming
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- We have now seen stickers not saving on the iPhone 16. Camera screen freezing and locking up. Touch screen not working and now there is an problem with night mode on the iPhone 16 Pro.
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Master! Yesterday Apple released the iOS 18.0.1 update which supposedly fixes these camera issues in iPhone 16 Pro / Pro Max. Best regards from Poland (Europe). 👍👍👍
Unfortunately, the 18.0.1 update did not solve the problem. There are blue stripes in semi-darkness. However, it is not on in complete darkness and the blue dot is much less in the raw photos.
Yes, working much better now
I can reproduce blue pixelation with minimal light entry not completely dark with the software update. If I completely cover the lens so there can be literally no light with just a single test it is black with 3.4 second exposure not 30 but with 3.4 second in extremely dark room laying on table due to wobble, I get a big blue cluster. Software didn’t resolve that but not sure if that’s a sensor problem or the software’s inability to process that extreme low light mode with minimal light entry. I guess I should’ve rotated the camera 90° and may try that to see if the outcome is the same or different that might inform whether it’s a sensor or software Problem.
Sorry to hear! I just did your table test - completely pitch black, no blue at all. Also did some nice night sky photos, and didn’t have any blue lines there as well. Apple does make mistakes, but their customer service might be able to assist. Try taking the complaint to the store, and exchanging it for a whole new phone. Alternatively - it’s waiting for an update (who knows how long.)
Thanks mate
@@ShayneMostyn No Prob! And Sorry I failed to mention - I have the iPhone 16 Pro. 👍🏻👍🏻
Just done the table photo on my 15 pro max,30 secs and it was completely pitch black
Using the 16 pro max. The first time I did the table test, I saw blue streaks in the whole photo. Then, as someone recommended, I repeated the table test but holding the camera module, and just had blue streaks at the right side of the photo. Finally, I updated to iOS 18.0.1, repeated the same test, and no blue streaks. Greetings from Argentina!
how do you hold the camera module ?
Did the table test. 30sec exposure - 16 pro max - 18.1(5)…not seeing the blue streaks at all, or any other issue. Stickers seem to be working fine for me as well. Hope it’s fixed for everyone experiencing this soon.
Me too!
Lucky mate
I did the test with the phone flat on the table with the phone inside a case though, then I set nightmode to 30 secs, and it gave me blue streaks covering most of the photo.
Had a case on mine as well.
Iphone 16 pro max.....received new iphone a couple of days ago, still getting used to it. upgraded to ios 18.0.1..done tabletop test with no issues, no freezing on video mode. 🤞🤞🤞. keep the great videos coming Shayne..Glasgow Scotland .
Nice mate
I’m using the 16 Pro. Did the test as you asked and the result was completely black with no color streaks at all.
Also tested the sticker issue…if I took a picture and selected the subject and chose Add Sticker it would indeed disappear, but if I tapped the plus sign in sticker mode, selected the picture, then selected the subject, it would add the sticker and keep it.
I noticed these blue lines too on my astrophotos… (16 Pro Max, in France). Really hope it can be fixed with an update … 🙏
@@dadou007007 yeah but you are in France so it’s normal you have blue issue allez Les bleus !
Me too mate
Havent noticed it when shooting at the night sky, but when I did the test on the table it gave me those blue streaks covering most over the photo. I have the 16 pro max.
I am using an Iphone Max Pro 15. I am getting a blue photo background with red vertical lines. I used 30 sec like you said. Raw was disabled.
I just spent a couple days using my iPhone 16 Pro to do some astro photos while backpacking this week. I definitely also got that weird blue banding in my images. Easy enough to get ride of in post, but annoying for sure.
There seems to be patterned color (chroma) noise from the sensor, It has the same light capture specs and (I'm assuming) microlens set-up. Soo perhaps due to the different electronics and read-out, the noise is different and Apple hasn't adjusted their noise reduction algorithm to compensate for the different noise characteristics?. I'd love to see a pure RAW comparison of the 15 and 16 to see what the untouched noise looks like.
same problems here with my iPhone 16 Pro
greetings from Germany
Same… it jerks through panning for me as well. I got some great shots of the Northern lights and…🤦🏻♀️I’d love if Apple could combine the smooth shooting I got from the 13 pro with the quality I get from my 16. Great color though. Very nice spectrum.
I have the blue patches too. Latest 18.0.1 update. 30-second exposure.
Thanks mate
Same here, but it depends where I do it, if I do it in a room that are completey dark, I dont get it other than 4 small dots where one blue dot is in the middle.
I just did some Astro photography yesterday on my 16 Pro Max and I have absolutely not the problem so it’s not a widespread problem! By the way, I’m running 18.1 beta (last one)
It's not a widespread problem, if YOU don't have it? 😂
@@wschnitzler i meant all the iphones when i meant widespread !
I did the table test and I did get the blue lights in the preview of the picture, but I soon as I opened it, then is like if it has been processed and then they almost disappeared.
The other issue I have is the one regarding the iPhone 16 Camera screen freezing and locking up. I didn't give to much importance to this as I'm running the 18.1 beta 2 and I was hoping that in the final release to the public will be fixed.
Thank you for bringing this up in your video.
I hope there’s an update in the near future. I pick up my Pro max tomorrow and to be honest I don’t feel overly excited about it.
@@MrClickit67 man where do you live to receive it so late ???
@@bghimself440 I’m in the uk. It was a pre order.Not sure why it took so long.
@@MrClickit67 btw don’t be afraid I ain’t got that blue issue problems in my pictures got a 16 pro max 512gb
My Canadian 512GB 16 Pro's image was totally black. Note that if you just lay the camera on the table, the camera will not sit level due to the camera bump and will allow light to leak in. You need to hold the camera module flat during the 30 seconds. Running iOS 18.1 Public Beta 2.
Table test… iOS 18.0 iPhone 16 Pro - pure black. Just found your channel, thanks for the great content.
did the table test (bed test in my case cause i was too lazy to get up). interesting obersation. with my room light on, but with the phone covered, it managed to take a bit of light in the photo and indeed i could see some vertical lines, but not very obvious.
with the room light turned off, there is no vertical line.
@Apple I don’t know how to summon you but please watch this 🙏🏼
Sorry to hear this Shayne. You’re obviously being made to suffer for your art. I tried the table top test and it comes out completely black. Fingers crossed for a quick turn around. Looking forward to seeing more of your art!
Hopefully soon mate
Did you have your phone in a case when you testet ? Or directly on the table without a case? Mine turned out blue like he showed. Havent noticed it when I shoot at the night sky though.
Hello from Alaska! I just sat my 16 pro max down on table and all black. I’m running iOS 18.0.1
Cheers for the heads up mines the same. Even although I’m within 14 days, I still had to purchase a replacement up front. I will get a refund when the faulty phone is back with Apple. If I don’t do it this way I would be without a phone for over 3 weeks.
Bloody hell
(comment not directed at shayne) It’s not intentional people 🤦🏾♂️ it’s most likely a bug, instead of bashing the company and wasting your time just make a official complaint and they will try to fix it quickly, they don’t want to lose money bugs happens on all platforms
Ive already spoken with contacts at Apple about some issues. Then this line as well. You can look back through my videos, I never bash any companies. This launch has been a slap in the face to be fair. I appreciate where youre coming from mate
@@ShayneMostyn i know your content very well you’re a bloody legend in the mobile photography community that’s why I said my comment wasn’t directed at you
This makes me glad I went with the 15Pro Max. Even though I had high hopes for the 16 Pro. I hope Apple fixes the camera issues. I wonder if it’s a manufacturer defect with the iso?
I would say its faulty sensor
Did the Test. No issues. All Black. iPhone 16 pro with iOS 18.01
I have the iPhone 16 Pro Max on 18.0.1. Blue banding on the right side of the frame in portrait orientation with RAW disabled at 30 second exposure. Bummer... I haven't had time to do any astro with it, but hope to get out within the next couple of nights.
Samsung for Life. thanks for the share! stay awesome!
I did the table test as well on my 16 pro (ios 18.0). I can’t see any colored lines, and I tried both HEIF and raw. Only if I turn on maximum screen brightness and I zoom in to maximum on the image, I can see a few blue dots here and there.
With my 16 ProMax I get something that looks a lot like the one you got from you 15 Pro. There are long, blue streaks mixed in with the noise. However I don't get any of the short, bright blue lines you had in your photo of Venus. I'm still using iOS 18.0
Unfortunately, the 18.0.1 update did not solve the problem. There are blue stripes in semi-darkness. However, it is not on in complete darkness and the blue dot is much less in the raw photos.
I have a 16 pro max in the US running 18.1 beta 2. I ran your test on a black surface and it looked like I was photographing a dark blue cloth.
Check a regular night mode photo of a scene now and see if those marks come out in the pic.
Please read: few hav probably done this before but for the last four or five years, I bought two iPhones of the same make release and invariably one takes better images with main camera and another takes better images with Ultra Wide. And it goes on from there. Many years ago I had an iPhone brand new that was taking some really funky pictures and Apple wanted to reclaim the device. Anyway, I got a replacement and had different problems and then got a third one and had still different problems all with the camera I’ve never seen anyone review two brand new devices of the same make side-by-side, but the bottom line is I believe there are manufacturing differences relative to quality control that result in the kinds of differences that have one reviewer or comment are saying they have a great experience with a given lens and another one saying they have a degraded experience. I have seen both increase Functionality and degradation on the same model purchased on the same day though possibly manufactured at a different time prior to release or even at a different facility. But I’ve never seen anyone compare, like I have done, two iPhones are the same making and model and do a side-by-side camera comparison, and you’ll almost certainly see what I’ve seen, which is across the spectrum of flash, night mode, long exposure,indoor lighting, outdoor lighting, tripod, Ultra Wide, selfie, Maine, and 5X zoom you will find some differences even on a tripod in the exact same lighting at the same moment between devices that are measurable and repeatable
@@EdwardRuthinowski not sure many people will go through this huge post …
True. When you try and be detailed on a couple of short sentences, people don’t have the attention span, but sometimes good information exist in details. I read through a lot of stuff and often find the greatest explanation is sometimes in the thing that’s the most boring to finally plug through all of the comments of that particular post, but sometimes that’s where the answers live.Anyway, just an info for anyone who may read and share it in their own way or benefit from it thanks for your honest comment for sure.
Holy shit. So you have two exact same phones and they give different result? Thats crazy
@@ShayneMostyn yes. Year after year. So what I do now is purchase them online in on the 14th day trigger return which allows you 14 days more to mail them back. Sometimes I’ve bought three to even four phones to get one that had the most ideal picture taking capabilities. Always at the sacrifice ofone lens or the other, but sometimes the difference between identical lenses on identical make, and model purchased and delivered at the same day are shocking and other times very similar like you would expect.
OK I've just placed my 16pro on a table & have done the full 30 seconds, no problems at all. Pity I can't post it up here, but have updated today to 18.01.
I'll go out tonight (I'm in the Adelaide Hills) & do a tripod shot & see what happens.
Could Lightroom do a better job of reducing the pure noise?
I haven't tried long exposure on my iPhone 16 Pro Max yet, but I think the blue lines are heat noise from the camera sensor itself.
Possibly. They say its a manufacturing fault
iPhone 16 pro 256 GB on 18.1beta 5 no problem with focus and sensor , produce total black , done crops too no issues
Nice mate
Also could you test it against the other phones you have? I'm now curious if its as noticeable on Samsungs
Blue too!
My 16 pro is pretty solid black to almost a warm dark greyish color when I do this. It does have 16.0.1 loaded.
The only thing the update has fixed is the camera freezing. Everything else is still happening. Thanks mate
I just did the test with a 16 Pro Max and the image is pitch black. I updated to iOS 18.0.1 today, so that may have made a difference. If not, I'd be taking the phone back and getting them to exchange it.
Yeah, the blue liines seem to be fairly common. I will be contacting Apple today
I did the test and it resulted in completely black photo(16 pro). It looks like an issue with fraction of devices. I have today's update already installed though. Lets give it a try.
ProRaw Max with native camera app is broken! pixelated and blurry when cropped to 100%. Comparing to my 15PM its night and day difference. Did you notice that aswell Shayne? Thanks.
No, I havent seen any difference there. Whats wrong with it?
I’ve got the blue along the bottom, up the right hand side and a circle in the centre too - really struggling to get shots where the centre isn’t obviously brighter than the corners in low light… 18.0.1 hasn’t fixed it for me 😢
I tested my 16 pro on 18.0.0 then upgraded to 18.0.1 and tested again; same blue streak pattern every time.
I got it on my 16 Pro Max with the update, but I pressed it firmly against a leather wrapped pillow and then I didn’t get it and the exposure time was the same for each case but my curiosity is whether or not if you have a flat against something completely obscuring light you get a different result because setting it on the table when there’s a camera bump, and it rocks a little bit lets a little bit of light in. Much like if you set your camera against your hand a little light transmitted through your finger and then it’s usually more reddish.But curious with light obscuration if you get the same outcome. Every year I get more than one iPhone because I have more than one problem with the cameras that require multiple phones to get the best outcome usually at the expensive one lens or another being not as good as the other physical phone are the same making and model released at the same time.
@@EdwardRuthinowski I've tried a bunch of different tests now and it's pretty severe on my main camera, a bit of an issue on my 5x, and not an issue on my ultrawide. I'm pretty confident it's not a light leak as I've been testing with an (opaque) case that has a lip around the module and then holding that lip flat against microfiber cloths on my desk to ensure a tight seal. Most damming, I can see the same blue patterns in pitch black shots and shots with very low light; I took some shots in an otherwise dark closet with some light shining under the door and no matter where in the closet I took a photo, there was the same glowing blue streaks discoloring the image (always in the same pattern).
Thing is, I have iPhone 16 pro max, and I don’t have any of these issues. Maybe its different with European/UK models
Some are having the issues, others no problems. There are 4 new phones in the FB admin group, only one of us has the issues.
@@ShayneMostyn interesting
Having it on an iPhone 16 Pro Max, iOS 18.0. Will check it out on 18.0.1 and report back.
Did the update, nothing's changed.
Since you are getting similar result with your 15 Pro... than why is 16 Pro to blame? I guess it's random.
So I’ve done this on my 16PM and on the. 1x lens, the image is completely blue, no lines, just bright blue.
On the wide angle, it’s is jet black. Very odd indeed
I was thinking it was an iOS 18 issue. Took a photo of my sons in low light indoors; they turned green like that old tale of the green kids. Was thinking of getting the Pixel 9 Pro but that looks like it is shooting through a ND filter.
I updated to iOS 18.0.1, took a low light photo of my blinds cause some light was coming through and the light in the image came out green
I did the table test with my 16 pro max and my results look exactly the same as yours showing blue vertical lines
As I’m reading these and experience the same but not when I completely cover the camera lens versus minimal light leakage even in a very dark room if you turn the camera 90° do you get the same pixelization or chroma or whatever or is it rotated 90° or just different because light is coming from a different perspective. Maybe the answer doesn’t even matter but I’m something I might try. It does seem like if some people are having a problem somewhere it could be hardware but then again it’s not guaranteed that everyone is doing the same way.
I understand your frustration but I’m sure it will be fixed soon.
Who knows. Depending on how many people report it and whether or not it’s a software thing. I reported that for years and years going back to iOS 9 I discovered when I got the 15 Pro Max with 24 megapixel capability anytime I use the timer on the watch the phone for three seconds 10 seconds whatever my 24 megapixel shot or 48 megapixel shot would be throttle down to a 12 megapixel shot for reasons that might’ve been relevant When iOS 9 was a thing but I couldn’t find an operating system going back nearly 10 years that didn’t convert a timer shot into a 12 megapixel burst. And in JPEG format so you lost the format selection p, forced into a burst changing the quality of the image, especially in moderate lighting. and at a lower resolution. I had in depth conversations with Apple and finally a year later. It seems that was remedied. But anyways for many years and many many many Apple products spanning 20 years easily. There are times one widely easily reproducible issue is not reported by enough people and it seems to get back burner to the point a correction is never made. I’ve got some software functional issues that go back three years five years and they’ve never been fixed even though it is always confirmed, it’s actually not working but doesn’t seem to bother anyone so they prioritize over things that affect more users. Here too if not enough people pay attention as others have mentioned very few would notice or take this kind of photography it might not get fixed unless substantial reports are made to Apple or it’s coincident with something they’re already doing on that topic is my experience and it’s true of any company prioritization based on number of issues, severity, level of consumer interest, etc. engineering resources. Sometimes it’s super disappointing to have major functions or camera functions or shared with you photo content that doesn’t appear across 10 devices in three operating system system versions year after year and yet not remedied. I guess I don’t take it for granted anymore that anything will be fixed without substantial reporting directly to Apple outside of forums.
All devices mentioned here are updated to iOS 18.0.1 testing
I have a 15 Pro Max put it facedown on counter in evening 5 am here low light. 3.4 second exposure determined by phone. Looks like one single pixel Dot of blue rest of image black. Didn’t repeat it.
Place 15 Pro Max, firmly against leather wrapped pillow took picture again achieving 3.4 second exposure determined by the phone and appears perfectly black
Took my 16 Pro Max set it on counter same environment 3.4 second exposure also and blue constellation or cities, clusters and dots and smear like similar to what you’ve shown lower middle right but substantial area of image
However, took pro. Max said it against a leather wrap pillow firmly to completely obscure any light entry and the image was jet black.
Can do more if interested, but this is a quick assessment, comparing both models and getting a different outcome even on the 16 promax specifically solid confirmation that light entry is precluded because when setting it on a counter given, the left corner of the phone will be slightly other than flush against the counter because of the offset of a camera bump leaving it rocking you won’t really preclude all light entry perfectly setting it on the counter I think you need to completely cover the lens like I did or with a microfiber or pressing it up against a vinyl or leather iPhone case or something. Counter method seems insufficient to secure or confirm no light entry
Did you update to 18.0.1? Supposedly fixed a lot of the camera, touch screen and video freeze issues.
Same with update
It’s quite strange, than neewer phone perform worse than older. In my comparison to 13 pro max, shooted on apple pro raw/ regular raw - the is no visible color artefact from the sensor, just equally grain after brinhing up exposore in LR.
Same lines herre too.
I got blue pinhead like spots but no lines and that’s after yesterday’s update.
Apple should address all these issues else it’s gonna be a turn down for some people.
On my 16 pro max I get a mostly black image with a little bit of red on the top right. No blue at all
I’m curious. If you get red, did you cover the camel lens with your hand. I know when I put a finger over a camera lens to try and obscure the light. I get some reddish spotting over the years, but if I put the camera lens completely against a leather pillow or the leg of some pants or whatever that ensures there’s literally no light I might get a different result of an actual black outcome. It doesn’t mean that any of the artifacts that are present should be present on photos that are taken where there’s a minimal amount of light regardless buttrue black true dark test would require not setting it just on the counter or a flat table because the camera bump will result in other than a perfectly flat contact with the camera and the surface of the table.
@@EdwardRuthinowski I put the lenses against the black fabric of my shorts for the test I did
16 Pro Max, I get a fully black image. As soon as some (even the dimmest) light gets in there it starts to get weird, but if there is no light it‘s totally black. I can‘t see any blue or red stripes, even with some very dim light. Maybe I got a lucky camera?
Seems to be the case. Lots of people with this blue
Did you update the phone to IOS 18.1? That fixed some problems I had. I show no blue line in my 16 Pro Max Astro photos.
However, l shoot in a Bortle 6 place. Shayne’s recent video about iPhone 16 Pro photography uses a photo of mine as the example of a place to avoid if you want good results.
The only thing the update has fixed is the camera freezing. Everything else is still happening.
I’ve also had the same issue
Thanks mate
Hmm, I got some red toward the top of the frame, and a faint blue band toward the right.
Thank you
Probably just the update…. Bugs happen software will probably fix them, are you using Beta software at all?
Did the update yesterday, just tested mines all black.
The only thing the update has fixed is the camera freezing. Everything else is still happening.
@@ShayneMostyn mines all black when taking the dark pics having issues with the photo app and half my screen flashing black when trying to view pictures currently.
did the ios 18.0.1 update fix the video locking issue?
The issue with 4K 24 or 30 FPS and macro going on at 4:04 is fixed in iOS 18.0.1
Using 15 pro max. When flat on table in dark room I get only 5 sec. Any idea why (using the x1 lens)
Bummer!
Just did test laying on a table and I also go a really bad photo with blue lines.
I kinda got that with my 16 Pro Max, but then I pushed it firmly against a leather pillow and got a perfectly black screen so maybe there’s light entry because when you put it flat on the table it’s not really flat because the cameras are on a bump, and the other corner is touching the table and just a portion of the lens is touching the table, allowing light in so maybe replicate and ensure the lenses are completely covered with a leather binder a microfiber a pillowinto a leather jacket or your pants leg
30 second exposure on iPhone 16 Pro on 18.0.1 in a pitch-black cupboard - same blue streaks and noise as in this video.
Thanks mate
I have a 16 Pro w 18.01 installed and in a totally dark room w the lens down on a table the pic came out totally black. I had light get to my lens due to the camera case I have on the phone causing light to get to the lens otherwise.
Thanks mate. The only thing the update has fixed is the camera freezing. Everything else is still happening. The blue lines seems only for some folks
Did the test. IOS 18.0.1, 30 secs, blue bands☹️
Have you try the new pixel 9 phone?
1:25 so if you put it on a tripod you get 30 seconds? Do you have to use a special tripod? When I was holding my tripod trying to take pics I didn’t get 30 seconds.
The tripod needs to be completely still if your holding it it will have movement, place it still on the tripod and you will see the 30s pop up
@@DanMitchellDj The phone was fixed in the tripod and wasn’t going move or come loose though.
Considering these problems, what do you think is the best iphone (pro) for photography/video up to today? An opinion would be very appreciated, thanks.
Oh My God!
@@ShayneMostyn I’m here all day 🥁
Back to the 15 pro max. Haha
I put my 16Pro down and took a photo it was black using 5sec night mode Should it go to 30sec? but it doesn't appear to.
I am using IOS18.0.1
To be fair (or not) software is asking a bloody lot from tiny lens' and sensors. I don't know who makes the lens but I believe Sony makes the sensors. For the amount they have to produce in the time frame they have would be a miracle in itself for all of them to be perfect. I do know that, in the past, camera sensors were very sensitive to heat and in some cases photographers used small ice packs wrapped in towels to keep the camera cool. More prominent with video when the sensor is continuously active.
To be fair, its the same camera as the 15 pro and it doesnt do it.
Reading the comments shows a good enough number to call it a camera issue rather than software. Might be worth a chat to Apple.
Bathroom counter in total darkness, I did see some blue noise. I wonder if the LIDAR sensor has anything to do with it.
No, I think its something else. If it was Lidar, everyone would have the issue.
Curious, if in bathroom on counter with “total darkness“ you will get a different outcome if you put it against something like a vinyl wrapped binder or the leg of your pants or a leather wrapped pillowcase where you can absolutely guarantee there is no light getting in. Even in the darkest room where there’s the most minuscule amount of light It’s also possible that you’re getting artifacts that you shouldn’t get, but if you could completely obscure the light entry by not letting it sit on the table where the camera bump causes a slight rock over the phone, which of course means it is not perfectly flat to the table surface so maybe if you got perfect prevention of light you’d get a black screen. Of course that’s not realistically what happens in any real world situation and the artifacts shouldn’t be there but I’m curious if you literally ensure complete darkness through completely covering by compressing the phone lightly into something that ensures literally zero light would you still get those artifacts. Because I got them on the table top, but when I pushed my phone into the pillow, I did not. Nobody takes a picture that way so I completely understand. It’s not an explanation or an excuse, it just might lend a little further understanding to the circumstances that create this.
@@EdwardRuthinowski great info! I’m going to try again.
@@astronomical13 love to hear what you found
Just did a 30s on table shot and it was black but with about 10 orso blue pixels.
Same. Mine had 3 blue pixels.
Where did you take these photos?
They leave too much to the updates this time. I don't think it'a a hardware issue. They should release it later but money talks of course.
True mate
I think it is also possible that it’s hardware because in a separate post from me in response to this topic, I tried to inform anyone who happened to read it that for many years I bought multiple iPhones of the promax version and every single time each phone has different camera problems from the failure to focus in corners to slight blurriness throughout but at the time of release or probably at any time 15 Pro Max versus 15 Pro Max B or 14 Pro Max a versus 14 Pro Max B and so on the main camera, lens may be better on one of two phones side-by-side, but the ultra might be better on the other of those two phones and the selfie phone camera may be better on one and worse than the other, so it is possible, as always that a software update might fix something and it’s also possible that Different user experiences are related to the manufacturing control or lack there of that result in disparity between user experience.
Also, well, I think no one should get these artifacts and I even get them on my own 16 Pro max and feel like overall the camera system is not better but marginally worse with some new features like 4K 120 etc. but sometimes the subtle differences and even how people handle these things are not well understood. For example, you should not get these artifacts because normal circumstances don’t completely obscure light, but setting it on a table top with a camera bump can result in minimal light entry as the phone can rock ever so slightly and even in the dark room, it might pick up a little bit of light that contributes to artifacts that can be seen (which should not happen) but if compressing the phone gently into the leg of a pant or a vinyl or leather wrappedbook binder or cover or into a darkly colored pillow to absolutely guarantee there is literally no light entry I get a different outcome. I don’t take a picture like that normally but I got a jet black screen doing it that way and blue artifacts doing it on the table top and a very dark room.
Also, another reason some users may get different experiences as one person may have a case with a thickness that brings the camera bump, even with or flushed to the rest of the case, while another may still leave it pronounced, resulting in a little rock and a little difference in outcome explaining why some people do and don’t get it. It may be a false answer. That’s not well. Understood just by the simple difference between how people Have their phone covered. Again not an explanation for Apple. I always have problems with their phones and software many times significant obvious failures for years they don’t fix because they literally tell me not enough. People report them directly so they’re not gonna spend the time on it even if they understand a problem that they don’t feel like enough users complain about directly to them. I’ve even pointed to these forums and they say that’s fine butif you’re the one calling in and no one else is, that’s not enough sometimes in their own words, of course
I have 16 pro max - in complete
Darkness and flat on the table for 30 seconds - no color. Just update to 18.01
The only thing the update has fixed is the camera freezing. Everything else is still happening.
I tried it on my iPhone 16 pro max, and it was all black. I didn’t see or notice any blue light bleeding into it.
Here is what I did:
Took the my iPhone 16 PM, kept it on the table. Switched to night mode and pro res format, lights off. The exposure was for 30 seconds and the photo was all black with no light bleed.
I have those lines, and also, i can take pitch black photo without lines.
So, photo needs little light leak to to show something in that picture and then you can see those lines
@@skeimi78 yes I agree. I believe it’s some sort of light sneaking in. I took my picture in a relatively dark room with no visible light source and photo came pitch dark. I wonder if I had a light source in the corner of the room it leads to the blue vignette?!
I have a very serious problem with the 3x zoom on Xiaomi 14 Ultra. In night city photos, it captures mirrored reflections.
What?
@@ShayneMostyn🤣
@@ShayneMostyn , I'll send you a photo
6 seconds in and I’m seeing a checkered pattern in the background, same shit I’m seeing on from my 16, this shit’s unacceptable Apple!!
Checkered Pattern WE SAW ON S２４ Ultra THIS YEAR MORON ❓❓❓❓❓❓❓❓
Samsung why are you still keeping quiet about this??? This is pathetic! Thats why you LOOSE customers! We all MUST punish you and never buy Samsung products again! This is how you treat your customers ?!
Recently, reports among Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra users about a significant issue concerning screen quality have been on the rise. This issue, particularly evident when displaying dark colors like dark gray, manifests as a graininess or sandiness, noticeable at both low and high brightness settings. This situation degrades the expected quality of AMOLED screen technology, which is known for its deep black levels and high contrast ratio. Similar problems have not been observed in previous Samsung models such as the S23 Ultra and Galaxy S9 Plus, indicating that the current situation is unusual.
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Yeah, I honestly believe the grain is present on ALL S24 units unfortunately.
There are A LOT (if not ALL) of units in the S24 line that have a problem of noise that appears on dark screens and low brightness (like when we use the phone in bed before going to sleep).
What happens is that the subpixels of the display have different intensities in low brightness (as you can see in this picture below by Android Central), which causes grain.
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This problem is called mura, and all manufacturers know how to get rid of it using a demura process, but apparently Samsung simply skipped this step on the S24 line. You can read more about it in this article by Android Central here.
In this Reddit post, there's a person who returned their phone FIVE times and they all had the exact same problem. Some people don't notice it, but apparently every unit has it.
Also, some people (like me) have terrible diagonal lines on the screen, in addition to the noise, as you can see in this picture below, by a Reddit user:
Mine has grain AND diagonal lines, while my fiancé's has grain. This is unacceptable on a phone that costs $1300, and what's even more unacceptable is how Samsung is (not) handling this.
16ProMax table test - all black - no lines IOS 18.0.1. No other problems so far. Don’t care for Camera Control or Button lol
For the iPhone could the blue streaks be the stars moving, and the lidar or whatever, is detecting it wrong?
Also I'm on S24U and GF on the iPhone 16 Pro, on a flat background no light, galaxy took it with a more yellowish/reddish/golish tint, and the iPhone when deep blue to deep red
No nothing to do with stars. Thanks mate
Is this only during low light shots? Or is this a constant problem? I haven’t seen any issues so far but I have yet to get a single Astro shot due to horrendous weather at the moment.
Only really low light.. sensor needs some light and those lines appear. So if you fully block all possible light then photo is pitch black and lines do not appear
Only low light
I think it’s safe to say the iPhone 16 is an unfinished product the software is blocking what this beast can truly do just give it time probably past iOS 18.3 should give us a sort of finished product I hope XD
I tried your test (flat on the table), 30 seconds and it's all black. That being said, i've just updated to IOS 18.0.1
Lines for me with 18.0.1 but i can also produce total black pic if i turn exposure down.
So if its pitch black you dont see those lines.. let some light come thru so there is something visible in ur photo
Mine does it too, 30 sec night shot in total black room, blue splotchy screen instead of black.
Will you let us know if the replacement fixes the issue?
Check a regular night mode photo of a scene now and see if those marks come out in the pic.
@@ShayneMostyn in my regular night mode, even with a very dim light where I can hardly see, the photo is all good, impressive actually how well it was able to see what my eye cannot and with great clarity considering the circumstances.
@@ShayneMostyn and even if I lay it camera down on 5 sec night mode there is no blue blotch….only when I go to max 30 second camera in total dark is when the blue blotch comes.
@@ShayneMostyn I’m using 16 pro as well. Hope there is a fix, I love taking night photos of the sky!
@@ShayneMostyn and then in the lowest possible light without getting pitch black the blue blotch starts to creep in from the bottom of the picture. But the most common low light photo, “I can see but it’s dark” without pushing it to the max, does seem fine. It’s only the most extreme low light conditions that I get the blue blotching.
These artifacts are called Lens Flares.
No mate, not these. This is a sensor problem
iOS 18.0.1 has fixed the issue. I’ve just done the table test.
I suspect you never had the issue to start with. Its not fixed by 18.0.1
I have the 16 pro max and just did the table test, im getting the blue like you, should it just be completely dark instead or ? I also have the latest iOS 18.0.1 update so I guess it didnt fix that for me.
Nothing to do with the software. Go and take a 30 second dark photo with a subject. Just a regular night photo and see if those lines appear.
I just tested in the bathroom on a flat surface by the sink, had the door closed and light turned off so the room was fully dark, and now I got a better result. All the blue was gone except 4 small dots where one blue dot was in the middle of the screen. But they were very small.
@@ShayneMostyn I have taken night photos of the sky and stars with 30 secs but havent seen it there. What about light pollution does it have to be in a pitch black area or just normal nightphoto with 30 sec ? I will try again tonight in a darker area with a subject and test with 30 secs.
@@ShayneMostyn Should I ask to have it replaced you think if I get these lines with night photo? Not sure if apple is willing to do that, if they dont see it as a known problem it might be hard to get replaced, but of course I can try. Although not looking forward to set up the phone again so I will wait and see how bad it is for me before I do anything further, gonna test outside tonight, so far havent noticed anything bad but then again I didnt look for it. Imagine getting it replaced and then the new phone doing the same, that would be frustrating.
I have a 16 pro max I did the dark room on table at 30sec mine is pitch black
Nice
Lots of people getting 100% black image. Go and take a 30 second dark photo with a subject. Just a regular night photo and see if those lines appear.
My 16 pro max doesn’t seem to have the issue 18.0.1
You are a lucky one mate
After 30 seconds got a bluish tinge photo on 15 pro
Camera lenses wrapped in towel, face down on table 30s exposure at 1X zoom: pitch black image no blue banding, iPhone 16 Pro (non-max). iOS 18.0.1
Same OS. Similar system of covering lens pushing into a pillow. Only 3.4 second exposure as determined by the phone but black. Laid on counter and what otherwise described as a black room and get blue chroma or pixelization. Because of the camera bump not preventing all light from entering. But with that informationpersonally not sure whether that’s software interpretation of minimal light entry that is a software problem or a censor problem and how it interprets minimal light entry. Thoughts? Because in reality it’s almost probably literally never the case that anyone takes a picture of anything and truly dark black so while we can create a black screen, covering our lenses completely like an old-school camera having a lens cover that’s not the way pictures are taken, so I’m not sure what we’ve achieve here. Absolutely not a criticism justthe reality of taking a picture in low light means just that very low light not jet black open to your thoughts or comments. No criticism.
Did the test and mine shows an absolutely pitch black image, 30sec exposure with both the main and wide angle cameras on a table/black surface.
Camera need some light, no pitch black.. ofcourse there are no lines if there is no light. Test should done that there is some light in ur photo, not pitch black
@@skeimi78 I’ve redone the test many times with different levels of light entering the camera and still can’t see any blue lines/hue. I’ve followed the ‘phone on a table’ test, but later tonight I’ll try some actual night photography.
@@carlosroldao if its pitch black then ur doing it wrong. There should be "something" in ur photo
If there is some light and no lines, then i think ur not having this issue
@@carlosroldaowhat ios version you have?