I just took apart my Vespa Cypher. I could not believe the beautiful machining inside it. The parts were just done perfectly. There was hardly any oil in it so I removed the oil and put Lyman Super Moly dry lube on all the sliding surfaces. No oil means no dust attached or held in the knife by gooey oil. The moly is burnished into the metal wherever they touch. A six-ounce bottle of Lyman Super Moly is a lifetime supply for a hundred of these auto knives. You can also buy moly in a spray can, but it gets all over the place and stains everything. Compared to the Microtech knives I have taken apart, you would think the Micro's were using cheap parts compared to the Vespa I still have the first Micro Scarab I bought in 2005. It has held up well and still works like new.
I honestly run my knives dry unless they need it. If they need it I use rem oil because it has a very low viscosity. I personally do not recommend dry lubes in an OTF knife. But you can use whatever works for you.
I am really hyped and really respect that Vespa keeps trying to improve and refine their products to the next level! Such quality control and innovation. I do hope they will branch out and create their own flag ship knife someday when they're ready. I'd love to see what they come up with!
I have made promises way too early in the past. But I have been promised great things are coming soon. You see vespa when they got the feedback on the last knife as great as it was they wanted to make it even better. They really do have intentions on branching out and doing more originals. They like other companies need to build a following until they have the means to do so. That time seems to be approaching. That's all I can say at this point. But yeah, that's why it took 2 years for this knife to be released. They wanted it to be perfect, and damn if they didn't reach their goal.
well i made the jump and bought one . ive done this before long time ago with italian switchblades . lets see what happens hope its as good as the one you have . I feel the prices of the real stuff is just ridiculous I own alot of guns and i cant justify paying the same price as a handgun for a knife .
Neither can I. Which Is why I made the switch. I have real micros. I like these better even if they were the same price. That's why they are such a damn good deal. Now the ONLY thing that might happen is a couple guys reported that the knife had some manufacturing residue inside causing some hangups. IF that happens all you gotta do is flush it with lighter fluid and let it drain. After its dry just add a couple drop of rem oil and divide it up on each flat of the blade as well as the spine and lockface. Cycle it a few times and wipe off the rest. If you are more daring and want to really get in there and experience the beauty take it apart and clean the inside thoroughly. Reassemble and apply the rem oil. No one has reported an issue beyond that.
Bought one of these, you are correct about the machining quality but mine did have firing issues out of the box. Mainly the springs are a little weaker than they should be as they seem to struggle with retracting the blade upside down. I opened it up and added a little molybdenum disulfide grease on the slow moving high load parts like under the button and the sear edges, and the spring chassis. Used a thin teflon oil on the blade tracks. Stop pin was rattling in the blade so added a dab of moly grease to silence that as well. Now it runs like it should. I have the Andy-made Combat Troodon clone also, and like it much better as the action is like a bullet compared with the rather relaxed action of the Vespa, but this Vespa is beginning to grow on me. I am going to buy the Interceptor version in gold next. Other differences with the Andy-made are as follows: 1)Andy's handle is likely 6061-T6 versus as you stated 7075 for the Vespa 2)Blade steel is M390 for the Andy-made vs S35VN for the Vespa 3)Andy's blade is negligibly smaller in breadth and length, with no inlay just the standard milling 4)Andy's button requires more effort but is just as smooth(I lapped the internals on 1000# sandpaper spray mounted to 1/4" glass plate to get the grit out of the action, as Andy's internals are not stonewashed thus have a little roughness to them. I believe he makes them on a laser-sintering 3D printer). Springs are noticeably higher rate. 5)Andy's button does not have a spring underneath, and is a copy of the Microtech 'X' button found on the Ultratechs 6)Andy's blade fires like a rocket compared to the Vespa 7)Vespa's button rattles a little bit, despite being tensioned by a small spring underneath. I silenced it with a little MoS2 grease. It's made to a little looser fit than Andy's. 8)Screws are a proprietary Andy design and Ultratech sized. After polishing/lapping the internals just a tad, the Andy-made Combat Troodon clone is still my favorite. Andy has removed them from his DHGate store, but I have contacted him about it and he said he merely sold out and will be producing more. I highly recommend you try one of his Combat Troodons next to see what you think. I still like both, and will be buying another of both. Cannot seem to stop flicking them in & out, completely addicted.
Many of us are finding the same thing. But its not a tolerance or spring issue. Its a simple matter of contaminants from manufacturing. Many of us have been discussing it in the comments section and what I have found is the best way to handle it is to break the entire knife down and clean every part with windex. The locking sears can remain untouched. After a good cleaning and assembly a little rem oil on the flats and lock face and no one has had any more issues. But it looks like you figured that out. As for how a hard the knife fires mine has none of mine have any problems retracting upside down. And its my belief that these knives should only have enough power to reliably work. Excessive spring power can lead to accelerated wear on some of the parts. Plus, I get guys every single day it seems complaining to me that their knives are too hard to fire. Now I know they just need to get a stronger thumb but most don't want to hear it. And if the knives got any harder to fire I would never hear the end of it. And unfortunately the stronger the spring the harder the knife will be to operate. Either way its an incredibly simple modification to increase the power of an OTF. You simply remove coils off each spring until you are happy with the performance. Just note that cutting off too many coils will result in a blade that flies too fast and will start failing to lock without other mods to correct the clock work of the mechanism.
Your reviews on this knife has absolutely sold me. My only problem is the vendor you recommend is sold out. I think I've seen you say (if not, I may be thinking of someone else) in the past, that not all of the vendors on that website have the same standards as chinahighendedc. Could you recommend a vendor with the Vespa Troodon, please? Or, would you know about when chinahighendedc will have more?
you know normally I really try to carry a knife for awhile before I give my endorsement but in this particular case its such a rare example of excellence that I felt it was necessary to get the word out as soon as I could. Its an stellar example of quality that you normally cant touch at this price. I literally have never seen a knife like this go for less than $500 even used. It really is OTF to own IMHO. As for the cypher I am expecting that in about a week. And I expect great things.
I have been watching your reviews on the VESPA knives and don't were to get one $160. is in my price range. I thinking of getting that Lightning one also. I am 73 and I never had a knife.
Any vespa is a great knife and compares very very favorably against knives costing 2-3 times as much from other makers especially if you could even get some of the custom options a vespa has. Some of these styles are sold out right now but vespa is always looking to do something new. Not sure if you are seriously considering a Lightning knife. Those while inexpensive will not have the same quality or longevity. A vespa knife you can depend on for a long long time and they give parts and a tool to fix it. And a pouch. All great things most companies either don't offer or charge extra for.
I want 1 lol. But I live in the UK and these never make it through customs 😭😭😭 honestly ive tried 5 or 6 times from different places. Never arrived and I've lost atleast 1300 pounds. But chinahighend hav assured me they'll send it in 2 packages disassembled . Now that just might work lol. But still I'm so worried. I've been disappointed so many times but I'm going to try this 1 last time.
I am sorry. I live in the states so its a bit easier for us to import things. One thing they should really do is sell these with a dummy comb blade that you replace with a live blade. The disassembled knife may draw attention. But if it was a comb no one would give a shit. And a blade alone no one will know what they are looking at.
@@purpledc1 what a great idea. Hey you should tell them that . That's such a great idea lol. Ur as sharp as ur blades bro hahaha. Just subscribed my man keep up the good work and thanks 4 the reply
Just went with the gold s/e, very excited! I was really torn between the gold and the blue, in the end I think gold pops best with cf, I know it's a subjective reason, but hey :-) I forgot to mention another huge selling point for me was that they throw in the springs and tool, such an over the top kicker! The one biggest fear when purchasing any auto is that someday you may need a part! way cool of them to include what you need. American companies better take some cues from them soon or they'll be run outta business lol.
I ordered one immediately after seeing this video about 4 months ago. After some shipping issues and the re-sending of another one, I finally got mine. Fit in finish is great on the outside. Is there a break in period cuz mine misfires when closing. A lot! Also, mine has plenty of blade play. Much different from yours.
Jon Clark the biggest issue Vespa has is cleaning parts before assemble. People have reported the issue you are having and what I recommend people do is tear the knife down and with a terry cloth use some winded and clean every part until you are not getting any reissue on the rag. Dry any remaining windex and reassemble. Then apply a single drop of rem oil to the flat of the blade near the handle on a flat side and speed that drop lung a weeding Ring around the blade. Cycle it a few times and you should be good. Blade play should be checked while grabbing the blade near the handle. All da Otf knives have play unless it’s a deadlock. Is this your first?
Just ordered one of the silver ones with the interceptor blades... hoping it doesn't take 45 days like my last purchase. Paid 139.00 after using a 20.00 coupon. Can't wait!
Well first 200 fires were beautiful, next 200 were not so.. however after a good cleaning and a little lubricant it's working like a champ. It misfires occasionally but nothing that's not fixed in half a second. All in all? Honestly love it so far. Pocket clip sucks though. Like its gigantic..
Just bought my first 2 High End some days ago, they are probably gonna be here next week, I’m really looking forward to put my hands on them. Btw, great review, guys. Greetings from Brazil. 🔪
I just bought the one with Interceptor blade, gosh I've always wanted one but all are customs and we all know how cheap they are...... so stoked to get this one. Do you know if the teeth on the spine are sharp too? Like legit sharpened.
I believe they are sharpened. But just remember that something like that even if totally functional could cause issues later on due to any shredded crap getting inside the knife. I would think of them as decorative or semi functional in the event you absolutely have to stick the thing in someones leg which of course I cant recommend one do either, lol.
Oh yeah no I was just wondering you know, for the detail. I know MT ones are sharpened, but no, I would not use it to anything as I know of right now. But I am stoked to get one regardless. Thanks for the reply tho!
Now im guessing dhgate is the only place to get it. And it will probably be sized. There a website in the USA? Tge microtech has a collectors value so yes keeping it nice us s good choice. I like the vespa dark otf that grindeorx have for 264$ but I rather have this one. Where can I get this domestically?
I have purchased over 100 knives from aliexpress and dhgate. Never had a knife seized. And yes microtechs have a collectors value. But their cost prevents many from ever using them especially if the collector value is all that matters to you. As far as materials go the vespas are actually superior to a production microtech and fall between a production and a custom in terms of features and materials. There is no USA source for these knives.
I bought the the raw aluminum one with the interceptor blade.I own a real Microtech combat Troodon and if i had to put either into a life or death situation I'd take the Vespa.Absolutely flawless in every way.Not one misfire and razor sharp.My Microtech has very little use and i get multiple misfires and the trigger is loose and rattles around.The vespa is solid with nothing rattling.I paid 460 for my CT and 160 for my Vespa.Sad.I'll never purchase another MT otf again if this is the case.
I Picked Up two Of these from DHGATE, D2 Blade, Scary Sharp Yep Beautiful Knife!!! Got them for $84.00 Each!!! Incredible price, Incredible Knife For That Price!!!,
Great review. Thanks! I was on the fence about buying one from Vespa since I've only hear good things about them. This review was enough to help make my final decision--so I just ordered one! Just to confirm--you think the Vespa OTF is better than an American made one, correct?
Also, What is special about the Vespa's that cost over $300-$400? There see to be 2 different styles. Is it only because of the polished blade, or is there more than that to justify the price? Thanks
It's easy to still make a profit at $150 since they're making the parts in bulk. As long as their blade steel claims are true & price stays the same then they will prosper as a company. Next they need to alter the design to be their own I think (or at least make an original model to complement this version).
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I can positively guarantee you that it is. The steel on these knives has been tested. LuvThemKnives channel has many videos with the results of such testing of various brands. China has access to s35vn and m390. They bought so much m390 in fact that it wasnt available for awhile and manufacturers started using CTS204P as a substitute as it was available and very similar. The parts for these knives are made in the same factories and on the same machines as many well known high end chinese brand name companies that are flooding the markets in the states. This just happens to be a private label that sells direct from china given the laws about importing switchblades for interstate commerce. They make premium versions and lower end versions from the same company. The quality of the execution is the same regardless of the materials but there are visual differences even in the way chinese D2 and S35VN take a polished and machine satin finish. You can visibly see the differences in the alloy. And again they have been tested. Now there are many companies that do in fact lie about the materials. But these are usually the companies making straight out forgeries with logos and serial numbers. You dont have to believe it. There is a whole subculture of flat earth type conspiracy theorists out there that have made every claim I can imagine about these knives. Everything from the chassis are made from radioactive scrap metal to the carbon fiber not being real carbon fiber and the titanium not being titanium or such a low grade it couldnt take and anodized finish (that it actually has and looks beautiful). Here are the facts. They really use the steel they claim. They know how to properly heat treat it consistently. Their CNC capabilities for blade grinds and finish quality surpasses microtech by embarrassing amounts and I own and love my micros. The anodized finishes are not as well done. They use a different process that does not look as quality as a microtech or other milspec anodizing. The actions tend to have less blade play and I find I need to keep them cleaner to stay as reliable. As for sharpness the micros have a toothier edge while the vespas come with a polished edge done by hand on various wheels but they look like they were done on a machine they are so precise. Thats what I know.
I'm all for a better alternative (cheaper price) but at the end of the day, used Microtech that have been carried are selling on ebay at almost retail prices. And they have lifetime warranty, made in USA. New Microtech utx-85 $225 vs vepsa $160 ? Think most know the answer.
Very cool. Since I don't make much and want a double action otf I was looking for a cheaper one and this fits my bill. Scared it's gonna get returned back to China though
I'm glad to see it is still serving you well. It should continue to do so for many years. I would still check one of these out. Had they been available I would definitely have recommended this
PurplEDC Reviews how do these new Vespas compare to the Hogue? Excellent review and I may have to jump on one of these even though I have many already..lol. when is enough I say never hahaha
Well the Hogue was previously what I thought was the all around best quality but these new vespas I have to say top them. The fit and finish believe it or not is even better, less blade play and more premium materials. And I much prefer the larger size knife to be honest.
Good to see ya again bro, Happy New Year btw! Ya got me! Sold, gonna pick one up! I saw it when it was released and I was close to popping on it, but said nah, because why do I need another mantle piece auto... but the quality you've illustrated in your review and your recommendation of this knife puts it over the top for me! Thanks bro, now gonna be anxiously awaiting its arrival!
The guys in the fb microtech groups are completely loosing shit about these clones...lmfao!....Is there a way to buy from you directly to speed up on shipping?
LOL, well I always find the fans of a company well known for stealing designs gets their nuts in a knot when someone does it to them. Plus no micro logos were used. People are just pissed they are overpaying.
But no I don't sell anything directly. We briefly entertained the idea but they have not explored the idea further. The real problem comes in with the autos. The flippers and fixed blades I could most definitely do. But the autos open up a whole new can of worms in the legality department.
My Vespa Halo V just cleared USPS LAX ISC after being held hostage there for 18 days. I am currently shopping for what you have but I will not pay going price. I'll find a deal eventually. NOTE TO MICROTECH OWNERS. They sell the tools separately for $5 to $10 where MT will rape you on price and discourage you disassembling your knife. They even sell the proprietary screws separately for spare parts.
lol, have you every experienced the other knives? As the owner of all of them, I would argue its the least impressive of the lot. I have it for one reason and one reason only. Its purple.
PurplEDC Reviews Yes lol I will admit microtech does let some stuff out the door that they shouldn’t but they hold value like a mofo. I’d pay $280 for the purple tri grip all day and others would pay more. If you had a turquoise tri like that I’d pay too much lol
links? I mean yes, the combat troodon has been a knife in the MT lineup for over a decade. But are we talking this exact configuration and inlays? There is no doubt that they made an exact clone of a Combat. But I would never confuse this with any microtech I have seen. And while it has some features of a Marfione custom it also has several distinctions.
Look up the Marfione Combat Troodon Bearing Grade brass. I was browsing actual Microtech knives and saw this. It makes sense since the clone had to have based their concepts off of something I think they took the carbon fiber inserts from the Marfione custom and placed it inside a standard plain Marfione Combat Troodon body.
well hot damn. Good eye. I had never seen that variant. The only thing really setting the vespa apart is the different hardware, and the machine flat ground blade. And several hundred dollars.
And then of course, the Halo V clone I bought broke because the screws were out of spec. They literally were popping out of the frame when I tried to put it back together.
Dude awesome! Thanks for the insight! If Versa is getting more popular, how can I be sure that I'm not ordering a clone of a clone?!? Are some vendors through dhgate more legit than others? I know clones are issues from China-Direct sites...
They have the same amount of grip as many genuine knives of the same look. And as you see in my videos and the lack of others complaining of the same issue its not the knives. No matter how many times you post this to all my videos.
Hey do you know if the internals are the same from like the d2 to the s35vn? Does the internal mechanism stay as quality in the d2 steel as the rest? I'd imagine they do, but still wanted to ask. Winter safe going on now, so... thanks for any help!
they seem identical. The d2 models still have steel internals. Usually they forgo the titanium handle hardware and upgraded blade steel yet the overall build quality stays the same.
@@purpledc1 thanks for the reply. I believe I heard that in yr video review, I had it playing in the background while getting ready for work. Great job on the videos by the way! Very helpful and informative
I got one of these and like it, however mine seems to misfire about 10% of the time. Any idea of what I need to do to fix that? Note that I am not an OTF guy and never took an OTF apart. Thanks.
Usually it is a matter of just taking it apart, cleaning every part with windex and reassembling. If it still misfires afterwards a tiny tiny TINY amount of rem oil on the flats of the blade usually sort it out.
@@bdpf1744 pro tips. When you take the knife apart disengage the blade before you do. The spring may not go flying because its attached to the carrier with clips but it still will make it easier separating while keeping it all close by. Also there is a pin in the blade. I like to put a tiny dab of grease on the side of that pin and then wipe off all excess with a an alcohol wipe. This prevents that little piece from rattling if in your pocket. When reassembling I recommend blue loctite but it will be most effective after cleaning the screws with alchohol. You probably got back up screws but to prevent them from walking out at all loctite is your friend. Side of the screw at the tip but not on it. Tiny bit. If you use too much it will settle on the blade, harden and make the knife unreliable.
I finally got the knife but you need a vice grip to be able to work it to open it or close it very hard and the tool for those little screws does not fit that's very sad I like the knife is very flat nice blue but
Very cool. If for some reason yours comes and it misfires just take it apart, clean it and reassemble with a few stratigically placed drops of rem oil and you will be gtg. I carry mine everyday. They are amazing.
**EDIT, See comment below** Current batches are not fixed, going to contact seller tonight but I would stay away for now. Has issues opening and closing literally 60 percent operational.
Ok, I have fixed the knife. 1. Spring under the button was too weak, replaced with one of the extras that had more tension 2. There was a lot of machining waste in the tracks of the knife, weirdly did not make it seem gritty, but hard to tell since it is an otf, a good cleaning and light polishing of some minor scratches and it seems to be working 100 percent. I just use motor oil with a little transmission fluid as a lubricant. I would advise anyone to take this knife apart before you even fire it one time, would probably save some polishing, or I may have just got unlucky with a dirty one, overall I would retract my statement to stay away, definitely a high value knife with excellent fit and finish if you are the type of person that doesn't mind it not working flawlessly out of the box, a little elbow grease goes a long way with this one. I have the silver trodoon with the single blade top faux serations.
Ok. I would clean it out. Use some lighter fluid to make sure all residual crap is outside the knife. Then after all parts are clean and dry reassemble but use a very small amount of rem oil on the lockface, and the blade flats and spine. Just a half a drop on each flat, the spine and the lock face. Mine works perfectly after that.
Update - Another MT Clone U-Turned back to South Korea. The other one was from South Korea also. I have knives coming from UK, Czech Republic, China, and Russia; all of those are just about to hit my door and did not take much time to get here (vice sitting at the LAX ISC for 3 weeks for a Return to Sender). I guess the USPS has a Hard On for South Korea via DH Gate at the moment. USPS had the nerve to say on the tracking was on the way to my address right up until the flight landed in Seoul South Korea 12 hours ago. The bums!
PurplEDC Reviews Nope, Washington State. All my knives coming from South Korea have been U Turned. Other places they are coming like UK, Russia, China, and Czech Republic. Mikov is arriving today according to tracking. At the town P.O. at this minute.
I appreciate the vote of confidence. But unfortunately right now the laws are such that getting involved on that level just isn't possible. It opens me up to a lot more than just pissed off people in the comments section. But I honestly wouldn't think twice about dealing with the folks at CHEEDC. They have never lost a package of mine. And I have placed a ton of orders.
if the links no longer work you have to search DHgate and alixpress for vespa knife. I dont have any contact witht the companies anymore so I do not know what they are selling the knives under.
If you can afford the expedited shipping its worth it. You get the knife in a few days rather than 2-3 weeks. And with the slower shipping method you will likely NOT see any tracking movement until it gets within your country. Hope that helps.
No. Importing one for yourself is in most cases not an issue. But because of the laws regarding interstate commerce and automatic knives. Specifically imported automatic knives you don't get many people interested in selling them. You do see them pop up at knife shows and gun shows fairly often but people attach a hefty premium to them. I can assure you the process for buying off of DHgate or aliexpress is much like amazon or ebay. I have never been scammed. And I have ordered a lot of knives. Including from numerous profiles just to confirm I wasn't getting special treatment because they knew I would be reviewing a purchase. Its not like it was 15 years ago and these sites were questionable on if you would even get something shipped to you.
www.dhgate.com/store/product/high-quality-vespa-combat-troodon-knife-blade/409400104.html?skuAttr=9999:1003#st1-7-1|0|0;stprod|3557685727 . There you go.
Its simple. You place an order. And you get shipped the knife. If you are talking about the intricacies and legalities, that is a conversation to be had in private.
I have a friend big guy he had to use two hands also to be able to use that knife to open it and close it not only that the tool they gave me with the knife does not fit
I don't care if you friend is a sumo wrestler. If he hasn't owned an otf either and he isn't a THUMB wrestler then he is suffering the same thing as you. Its very common please ask anyone on any knife forum who knows about these knives. And the bit I guarantee will work if they didn't flat out send you the wrong one. For me to confirm any of what you are saying I would need to see the knife in person. I'm sorry, but with you not wanting to accept my answers as the truth there is only so much that I can do. Now, you have posted on two different videos of mine for two different knives. Did you buy two knives? Because if you bought a troodon and a cypher you should note that the tools that come with each knife only work with that knife. The ONLY thing I can think of is if they sent you a troodon tool instead of a cypher tool. How long is the tool you got and was It just the cypher you bought?
I just ordered a cheap Titan for $31. Now I want to order this black combat knife just to have and to hold, and to take it apart. That mechanism and spring combo is out of this world, and looks like it should be inside of a machine gun. Does anyone know the name of the style blade that is flat like a razor, looks like a reversed Tanto in a way, with the Rambo grooves on top that looks like saw teeth? That's the blade I want. Sick, to say the least. Thanks for the vid.
Thanks . Is the size is the same as the former Combat Troodon from Vespa ( blade and handle ) ? Because i have a former Vespa combat troodon and i'm interested by the new .
Benchmade quality control blows goats ( I have proof ) go to the knife store and try them don't buy benchmade through the mail unless you like sending stuff back and forth !
I agree. And I hate to say it, but I bought a Benchmade clone from China (DHgate) and its fucking AWESOME quality! Tighter tolerances and better finished than any of my “real” Benchmades. Kinda makes me wanna puke!!!
nope. No need to worry. Many times the type of shipping varies depending on many factors. The most important of which is what is moving fastest and what they feel will ensure customers getting their products. Even in the event your item has a problem in shipping they will stand behind it no matter what.
Matt C it took 8 days for my order to make it to the Los Angeles distribution center. During that time period there is no tracking information available.
Yes, the benefit of Epacket is it comes fairly quickly. But with any foreign mail if its not sent express or priority then you don't get tracking. And even then many times it wont work until its in the USA.
I ordered one a month ago it stays in Los Angeles because it is illegal there even I live in Arizona so I paid for nothing how do you guys get those knives over there over here I'm very upset I paid the money and I get nothing I waited over 1 month for that stupid knife and I get nothing
I just got one of these. The hellhound version and the blade is rebounding on retraction what can i do to fix this issue?please help. I contacted chinahighendedc and they are giveing me a hard time with resolving this issue
Don't panic. Many of us (customers and I) are discovering that these knives are coming with some contaminants inside the knife from manufacturing. But with a little tlc you will be right as rain. Basically what I tell people to do is break down the knife with the tool provided. Do not remove the locks in the handle. They are fine. But you want to remove the blade and firing assembly. Clean everything with windex on a terry cloth towel. No paper towels as they can leave lint behind. After you have everything clean, you can put a tiny dab of grease under the springs if desired though it isn't necessary. Then I just reassemble it. After reassembly re engage the blade but before operating it put a few drops of very extremely light machine oil. I prefer rem oil as it is super thin and effective and wont gum up your action. Place a small drop on the spine, each flat of the blade and the lock face (what most would call a sharpening choil) and operate it. You should be good to go. If it misfires a few months down the road just give it another dose of rem oil. You can pick it up at Walmart for a couple dollars. Do not use thick viscous oils like nano lube or militec.
also if you are not comfortable I can do the service for you free of charge and give you a nice satin or mirror custom button top and sides. Your choice on any combination of satin and mirror on the button. I do that by hand. All I ask is you pay the shipping.
Hey Richard, If you don't mind me asking...what color is your handle on your knife?( blue by any chance) I am starting to wonder if this is a blue handle issue.
Funny you mention that. The blue knife in my first video was the one that I disassembled and said was giving problems out of the gate. It does seem to be the color most affected. And it was that way with the original run.
I have had problems with customs seizing my orders in the past.How do you get around that issue?I cant pay much that for a blade that i do want but dont want to loose my $$.
They use specific carriers and make sure to send products through certain channels to ensure they don't get flagged. I'm sorry but with prying eyes and such has me hesitant to go into any further specifics as it would jeopardize the system that ensures everyone gets their product. And in the event your item does not make it to you remember that delivery is guaranteed. They will either send another or refund you.
Oh shut the fuck up. You realize who you are defending right? That amount of ignorance alone disqualifies you from having an opinion. Do it again and ill simply remove you from the conversation.
I have a zero tolerance policy with trolls. My channel doesn't get any promotion anywhere. Its information for those looking for it. If you seek me out to be an idiot remember, its my house, my fuckin rules.
What did you delete your message all ready? Yes that was my response. When you stop by just to take a shit and shame me for what I can only assume is your misinformation yes that is the response you get from me. You want mature adult like replies? Make mature comments or questions then. You will get treated exactly how you behave when dealing with me. Now the reason I said you were ignorant and asked you who you are defending is because the company in question (microtech) steal designs. Many of their designs are stolen from other makers and no credit given for their ideas. So when you come at me over people "stealing creativity" to me it shows you either don't know about the designs they have stolen (hence my use of the word "ignorant") or you feel that because they are microtech and a USA based company that the company gets carte blanche. I feel if you steal designs, then you cant get all whiny when someone steals your designs. Eye for an eye so to speak. I'm sorry if you felt slighted by my response. But please try to think about how many comments like yours I deal with on an ongoing basis. From where I'm at anyone rushing to defend microtech over stolen designs is either misinformed or they just feel that the rules don't apply to them. I do hope you understand my position and no hard feelings.
I had to rethink why I wrote that (shame), it's kinda lame and for that I apologize, I'm new to this type of social media. What I meant to say is this; The quality of these knives looks really good, nice materials and construction. What gets me is that it is a blatant copy of a Marfione Custom, looks like the size of the Combat Troodon. I imagine it took some time for the original (Marfione) design to evolve. Calling it a clone does not mean it's not stealing. I never realized that Vespa does this with many popular models, I don't understand how this is legal. Is it? I would be interested in seeing what this company can create without "cloning."I welcome a true response to this.
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I just took apart my Vespa Cypher. I could not believe the beautiful machining inside it. The parts were just done perfectly. There was hardly any oil in it so I removed the oil and put Lyman Super Moly dry lube on all the sliding surfaces. No oil means no dust attached or held in the knife by gooey oil. The moly is burnished into the metal wherever they touch. A six-ounce bottle of Lyman Super Moly is a lifetime supply for a hundred of these auto knives. You can also buy moly in a spray can, but it gets all over the place and stains everything.
Compared to the Microtech knives I have taken apart, you would think the Micro's were using cheap parts compared to the Vespa
I still have the first Micro Scarab I bought in 2005. It has held up well and still works like new.
I honestly run my knives dry unless they need it. If they need it I use rem oil because it has a very low viscosity. I personally do not recommend dry lubes in an OTF knife. But you can use whatever works for you.
Just found this and made the plunge. Thanks for all the reviews Purple
I am really hyped and really respect that Vespa keeps trying to improve and refine their products to the next level! Such quality control and innovation. I do hope they will branch out and create their own flag ship knife someday when they're ready. I'd love to see what they come up with!
I have made promises way too early in the past. But I have been promised great things are coming soon. You see vespa when they got the feedback on the last knife as great as it was they wanted to make it even better. They really do have intentions on branching out and doing more originals. They like other companies need to build a following until they have the means to do so. That time seems to be approaching. That's all I can say at this point. But yeah, that's why it took 2 years for this knife to be released. They wanted it to be perfect, and damn if they didn't reach their goal.
well i made the jump and bought one . ive done this before long time ago with italian switchblades . lets see what happens hope its as good as the one you have . I feel the prices of the real stuff is just ridiculous I own alot of guns and i cant justify paying the same price as a handgun for a knife .
Neither can I. Which Is why I made the switch. I have real micros. I like these better even if they were the same price. That's why they are such a damn good deal. Now the ONLY thing that might happen is a couple guys reported that the knife had some manufacturing residue inside causing some hangups. IF that happens all you gotta do is flush it with lighter fluid and let it drain. After its dry just add a couple drop of rem oil and divide it up on each flat of the blade as well as the spine and lockface. Cycle it a few times and wipe off the rest. If you are more daring and want to really get in there and experience the beauty take it apart and clean the inside thoroughly. Reassemble and apply the rem oil. No one has reported an issue beyond that.
Jose Izquierdo where did you buy from ?
How's the knife??
Great work explaining everything this knife has to offer.Thank you for this review it answered all my questions regarding the internals.
Thanks for watching!
After owning several now I would have to agree. These knives are the best OTF knives made. Regardless of price!
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I picked up several of those off DH Gate And they are Sweet, Incredible Knife!!!! Got them $84.00 Each !!!,
Wanted to get the Vespa Troodon S35VN version...on sale now $139 (reg 159), but sadly most options to order are currently out of stock.
I just got the clone of the Combat Troodon that John Wick used in the second movie and I love it
do you have a link to the one you got? Thanks,
Just go to DHgate and type up Combat Troodon. There's tons of sellers. It's best to compare the images to the one you want.
Bought one of these, you are correct about the machining quality but mine did have firing issues out of the box. Mainly the springs are a little weaker than they should be as they seem to struggle with retracting the blade upside down. I opened it up and added a little molybdenum disulfide grease on the slow moving high load parts like under the button and the sear edges, and the spring chassis. Used a thin teflon oil on the blade tracks. Stop pin was rattling in the blade so added a dab of moly grease to silence that as well. Now it runs like it should. I have the Andy-made Combat Troodon clone also, and like it much better as the action is like a bullet compared with the rather relaxed action of the Vespa, but this Vespa is beginning to grow on me. I am going to buy the Interceptor version in gold next. Other differences with the Andy-made are as follows:
1)Andy's handle is likely 6061-T6 versus as you stated 7075 for the Vespa
2)Blade steel is M390 for the Andy-made vs S35VN for the Vespa
3)Andy's blade is negligibly smaller in breadth and length, with no inlay just the standard milling
4)Andy's button requires more effort but is just as smooth(I lapped the internals on 1000# sandpaper spray mounted to 1/4" glass plate to get the grit out of the action, as Andy's internals are not stonewashed thus have a little roughness to them. I believe he makes them on a laser-sintering 3D printer). Springs are noticeably higher rate.
5)Andy's button does not have a spring underneath, and is a copy of the Microtech 'X' button found on the Ultratechs
6)Andy's blade fires like a rocket compared to the Vespa
7)Vespa's button rattles a little bit, despite being tensioned by a small spring underneath. I silenced it with a little MoS2 grease. It's made to a little looser fit than Andy's.
8)Screws are a proprietary Andy design and Ultratech sized.
After polishing/lapping the internals just a tad, the Andy-made Combat Troodon clone is still my favorite. Andy has removed them from his DHGate store, but I have contacted him about it and he said he merely sold out and will be producing more. I highly recommend you try one of his Combat Troodons next to see what you think. I still like both, and will be buying another of both. Cannot seem to stop flicking them in & out, completely addicted.
Many of us are finding the same thing. But its not a tolerance or spring issue. Its a simple matter of contaminants from manufacturing. Many of us have been discussing it in the comments section and what I have found is the best way to handle it is to break the entire knife down and clean every part with windex. The locking sears can remain untouched. After a good cleaning and assembly a little rem oil on the flats and lock face and no one has had any more issues. But it looks like you figured that out. As for how a hard the knife fires mine has none of mine have any problems retracting upside down. And its my belief that these knives should only have enough power to reliably work. Excessive spring power can lead to accelerated wear on some of the parts. Plus, I get guys every single day it seems complaining to me that their knives are too hard to fire. Now I know they just need to get a stronger thumb but most don't want to hear it. And if the knives got any harder to fire I would never hear the end of it. And unfortunately the stronger the spring the harder the knife will be to operate. Either way its an incredibly simple modification to increase the power of an OTF. You simply remove coils off each spring until you are happy with the performance. Just note that cutting off too many coils will result in a blade that flies too fast and will start failing to lock without other mods to correct the clock work of the mechanism.
Indeed. Fantastic value in these anyway. My Chinese-manufactured Microtech clones are beginning to pile up. The worst part is the waiting.
Your reviews on this knife has absolutely sold me. My only problem is the vendor you recommend is sold out. I think I've seen you say (if not, I may be thinking of someone else) in the past, that not all of the vendors on that website have the same standards as chinahighendedc. Could you recommend a vendor with the Vespa Troodon, please? Or, would you know about when chinahighendedc will have more?
if you see johnchen1983 that's a good seller too.
Thank you, so much!
So nice you got this review out already. I hope you get the Cypher in as well as that design really speaks to me.
you know normally I really try to carry a knife for awhile before I give my endorsement but in this particular case its such a rare example of excellence that I felt it was necessary to get the word out as soon as I could. Its an stellar example of quality that you normally cant touch at this price. I literally have never seen a knife like this go for less than $500 even used. It really is OTF to own IMHO. As for the cypher I am expecting that in about a week. And I expect great things.
I would prefer to get a Combat Troodon that looked exactly like the one John Wick used
I have been watching your reviews on the VESPA knives and don't were to get one $160. is in my price range. I thinking of getting that Lightning one also. I am 73 and I never had a knife.
Any vespa is a great knife and compares very very favorably against knives costing 2-3 times as much from other makers especially if you could even get some of the custom options a vespa has. Some of these styles are sold out right now but vespa is always looking to do something new. Not sure if you are seriously considering a Lightning knife. Those while inexpensive will not have the same quality or longevity. A vespa knife you can depend on for a long long time and they give parts and a tool to fix it. And a pouch. All great things most companies either don't offer or charge extra for.
@@purpledc1 Were can I buy one ??? Will order one Friday on the 3rd.
I want 1 lol. But I live in the UK and these never make it through customs 😭😭😭 honestly ive tried 5 or 6 times from different places. Never arrived and I've lost atleast 1300 pounds. But chinahighend hav assured me they'll send it in 2 packages disassembled . Now that just might work lol. But still I'm so worried. I've been disappointed so many times but I'm going to try this 1 last time.
I am sorry. I live in the states so its a bit easier for us to import things. One thing they should really do is sell these with a dummy comb blade that you replace with a live blade. The disassembled knife may draw attention. But if it was a comb no one would give a shit. And a blade alone no one will know what they are looking at.
@@purpledc1 what a great idea. Hey you should tell them that . That's such a great idea lol. Ur as sharp as ur blades bro hahaha. Just subscribed my man keep up the good work and thanks 4 the reply
Nice video & comprehensive review. Been looking at OTF' s on & off for awhile. I am grabbing one of these.
I think you will be pleased. They really knocked it out of the park this time.
Just went with the gold s/e, very excited! I was really torn between the gold and the blue, in the end I think gold pops best with cf, I know it's a subjective reason, but hey :-)
I forgot to mention another huge selling point for me was that they throw in the springs and tool, such an over the top kicker! The one biggest fear when purchasing any auto is that someday you may need a part! way cool of them to include what you need. American companies better take some cues from them soon or they'll be run outta business lol.
Congrats! You wont regret it!
good video, what is the weight for knife alone please ?
I ordered one immediately after seeing this video about 4 months ago. After some shipping issues and the re-sending of another one, I finally got mine. Fit in finish is great on the outside. Is there a break in period cuz mine misfires when closing. A lot! Also, mine has plenty of blade play. Much different from yours.
Jon Clark the biggest issue Vespa has is cleaning parts before assemble. People have reported the issue you are having and what I recommend people do is tear the knife down and with a terry cloth use some winded and clean every part until you are not getting any reissue on the rag. Dry any remaining windex and reassemble. Then apply a single drop of rem oil to the flat of the blade near the handle on a flat side and speed that drop lung a weeding
Ring around the blade. Cycle it a few times and you should be good. Blade play should be checked while grabbing the blade near the handle. All da Otf knives have play unless it’s a deadlock. Is this your first?
Just ordered one of the silver ones with the interceptor blades... hoping it doesn't take 45 days like my last purchase.
Paid 139.00 after using a 20.00 coupon. Can't wait!
That's a screaming deal. Congrats!
I got mine in about 15 days, recieved it yesterday
how do you like it @Matt C?
Well first 200 fires were beautiful, next 200 were not so.. however after a good cleaning and a little lubricant it's working like a champ. It misfires occasionally but nothing that's not fixed in half a second.
All in all? Honestly love it so far. Pocket clip sucks though. Like its gigantic..
Ok, thanks.
I just found out because of the Chinese holiday my knife won't even be shipping for another 9 DAYS!
Just bought my first 2 High End some days ago, they are probably gonna be here next week, I’m really looking forward to put my hands on them. Btw, great review, guys. Greetings from Brazil. 🔪
China is really tightening up there knife game. I'm hoping that starts to help keep the us brands in check when it comes to pricing.
I just bought the one with Interceptor blade, gosh I've always wanted one but all are customs and we all know how cheap they are...... so stoked to get this one. Do you know if the teeth on the spine are sharp too? Like legit sharpened.
I believe they are sharpened. But just remember that something like that even if totally functional could cause issues later on due to any shredded crap getting inside the knife. I would think of them as decorative or semi functional in the event you absolutely have to stick the thing in someones leg which of course I cant recommend one do either, lol.
Oh yeah no I was just wondering you know, for the detail. I know MT ones are sharpened, but no, I would not use it to anything as I know of right now. But I am stoked to get one regardless. Thanks for the reply tho!
I'm sold. Buying one for me and some for my friends as gifts.
Now im guessing dhgate is the only place to get it. And it will probably be sized. There a website in the USA? Tge microtech has a collectors value so yes keeping it nice us s good choice. I like the vespa dark otf that grindeorx have for 264$ but I rather have this one. Where can I get this domestically?
I have purchased over 100 knives from aliexpress and dhgate. Never had a knife seized. And yes microtechs have a collectors value. But their cost prevents many from ever using them especially if the collector value is all that matters to you. As far as materials go the vespas are actually superior to a production microtech and fall between a production and a custom in terms of features and materials. There is no USA source for these knives.
I bought the the raw aluminum one with the interceptor blade.I own a real Microtech combat Troodon and if i had to put either into a life or death situation I'd take the Vespa.Absolutely flawless in every way.Not one misfire and razor sharp.My Microtech has very little use and i get multiple misfires and the trigger is loose and rattles around.The vespa is solid with nothing rattling.I paid 460 for my CT and 160 for my Vespa.Sad.I'll never purchase another MT otf again if this is the case.
I Picked Up two Of these from DHGATE, D2 Blade, Scary Sharp Yep Beautiful Knife!!! Got them for $84.00 Each!!! Incredible price, Incredible Knife For That Price!!!,
I had to oil mine and now it works perfect!
I just placed an order for the blue dagger version!! :D
Great review. Thanks! I was on the fence about buying one from Vespa since I've only hear good things about them. This review was enough to help make my final decision--so I just ordered one! Just to confirm--you think the Vespa OTF is better than an American made one, correct?
Also, What is special about the Vespa's that cost over $300-$400? There see to be 2 different styles. Is it only because of the polished blade, or is there more than that to justify the price? Thanks
It's easy to still make a profit at $150 since they're making the parts in bulk. As long as their blade steel claims are true & price stays the same then they will prosper as a company. Next they need to alter the design to be their own I think (or at least make an original model to complement this version).
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Nice looking knife, But I can almost guarantee it's not S35VN! Thanks for sharing
I can positively guarantee you that it is. The steel on these knives has been tested. LuvThemKnives channel has many videos with the results of such testing of various brands.
China has access to s35vn and m390. They bought so much m390 in fact that it wasnt available for awhile and manufacturers started using CTS204P as a substitute as it was available and very similar.
The parts for these knives are made in the same factories and on the same machines as many well known high end chinese brand name companies that are flooding the markets in the states. This just happens to be a private label that sells direct from china given the laws about importing switchblades for interstate commerce.
They make premium versions and lower end versions from the same company. The quality of the execution is the same regardless of the materials but there are visual differences even in the way chinese D2 and S35VN take a polished and machine satin finish. You can visibly see the differences in the alloy. And again they have been tested.
Now there are many companies that do in fact lie about the materials. But these are usually the companies making straight out forgeries with logos and serial numbers. You dont have to believe it. There is a whole subculture of flat earth type conspiracy theorists out there that have made every claim I can imagine about these knives.
Everything from the chassis are made from radioactive scrap metal to the carbon fiber not being real carbon fiber and the titanium not being titanium or such a low grade it couldnt take and anodized finish (that it actually has and looks beautiful).
Here are the facts. They really use the steel they claim. They know how to properly heat treat it consistently. Their CNC capabilities for blade grinds and finish quality surpasses microtech by embarrassing amounts and I own and love my micros. The anodized finishes are not as well done. They use a different process that does not look as quality as a microtech or other milspec anodizing. The actions tend to have less blade play and I find I need to keep them cleaner to stay as reliable. As for sharpness the micros have a toothier edge while the vespas come with a polished edge done by hand on various wheels but they look like they were done on a machine they are so precise. Thats what I know.
ManyThanx Great Video
These are on sale on dhgate for $123 right now
Just ordered mine! How are your combat troodons holding up so far?
I just ordered one from your link to China high end edc
Can you buy this knife on a different site than dh gate good video want one of my very own
aliexpress as well. These are not sold in the USA that I am aware of.
I'm all for a better alternative (cheaper price) but at the end of the day, used Microtech that have been carried are selling on ebay at almost retail prices. And they have lifetime warranty, made in USA. New Microtech utx-85 $225 vs vepsa $160 ? Think most know the answer.
Very cool. Since I don't make much and want a double action otf I was looking for a cheaper one and this fits my bill. Scared it's gonna get returned back to China though
I honestly wouldn't worry about that too much. This seller is very well versed in getting things to its customers.
These look like nice solid made knives I might have to try one. PS still have the Hogue OTF that I got from you,excellent knife thanks again
I'm glad to see it is still serving you well. It should continue to do so for many years. I would still check one of these out. Had they been available I would definitely have recommended this
PurplEDC Reviews how do these new Vespas compare to the Hogue? Excellent review and I may have to jump on one of these even though I have many already..lol. when is enough I say never hahaha
Well the Hogue was previously what I thought was the all around best quality but these new vespas I have to say top them. The fit and finish believe it or not is even better, less blade play and more premium materials. And I much prefer the larger size knife to be honest.
Amazing review man. Love it. Totally going to buy one 😄
Good to see ya again bro, Happy New Year btw! Ya got me! Sold, gonna pick one up! I saw it when it was released and I was close to popping on it, but said nah, because why do I need another mantle piece auto... but the quality you've illustrated in your review and your recommendation of this knife puts it over the top for me! Thanks bro, now gonna be anxiously awaiting its arrival!
Half the fun though right? I know, I don't believe my own BS either. Its gonna suck. But the payoff will be worth it.
i was thinking about hitting the trigger on one of these. after seeing this video i am convinced
Ill have the nicest box cutter at work.
Toto Phandhamaly idk if u want this as a box cutter.. its more like an epic cheesecake one and done.
Yup. Getting one.
Looks good but i can't take any more chances with Otf's. I already lost $350 by buying a Microcrap from the a-hole at Pvk.vegas.
The guys in the fb microtech groups are completely loosing shit about these clones...lmfao!....Is there a way to buy from you directly to speed up on shipping?
LOL, well I always find the fans of a company well known for stealing designs gets their nuts in a knot when someone does it to them. Plus no micro logos were used. People are just pissed they are overpaying.
But no I don't sell anything directly. We briefly entertained the idea but they have not explored the idea further. The real problem comes in with the autos. The flippers and fixed blades I could most definitely do. But the autos open up a whole new can of worms in the legality department.
My Vespa Halo V just cleared USPS LAX ISC after being held hostage there for 18 days. I am currently shopping for what you have but I will not pay going price. I'll find a deal eventually. NOTE TO MICROTECH OWNERS. They sell the tools separately for $5 to $10 where MT will rape you on price and discourage you disassembling your knife. They even sell the proprietary screws separately for spare parts.
exexpat11 I'm hoping mine clears customs. I wasn't really thinking when I ordered it and it's coming epacket.. see Y'all when I'm out of the pen
Mine got U-Turned back to China. So, I ordered another and have other Autos on the way. Epacket might be better than China Post to get through.
You a us citizen? Cause I'm just worried about the USPS delivery
And your halo got sent back to China? Noooo... that's awful news. I take it the investment is now lost?
Yes and they are legal in my State. I think it was the counterfeit labeling that busted the shipment.
I’m glad they listened and went double edged. I carry a $500 Microtech Combat Troodon double edge. I want a Green one!!!
Green would be awesome. You know me, I want a purple one.
show us the other blade grind you have
That is shown more prominently in the other two videos I did of these knives.
also at 6:25 you see the other blade.
What is the blade name at 6:25?
I'd take the purple tri-grip over these all day such an awesome knife.
lol, have you every experienced the other knives? As the owner of all of them, I would argue its the least impressive of the lot. I have it for one reason and one reason only. Its purple.
PurplEDC Reviews Yes lol I will admit microtech does let some stuff out the door that they shouldn’t but they hold value like a mofo. I’d pay $280 for the purple tri grip all day and others would pay more. If you had a turquoise tri like that I’d pay too much lol
I just found out that Microtech actually makes this exact model
links? I mean yes, the combat troodon has been a knife in the MT lineup for over a decade. But are we talking this exact configuration and inlays? There is no doubt that they made an exact clone of a Combat. But I would never confuse this with any microtech I have seen. And while it has some features of a Marfione custom it also has several distinctions.
Look up the Marfione Combat Troodon Bearing Grade brass. I was browsing actual Microtech knives and saw this. It makes sense since the clone had to have based their concepts off of something
I think they took the carbon fiber inserts from the Marfione custom and placed it inside a standard plain Marfione Combat Troodon body.
well hot damn. Good eye. I had never seen that variant. The only thing really setting the vespa apart is the different hardware, and the machine flat ground blade. And several hundred dollars.
And then of course, the Halo V clone I bought broke because the screws were out of spec. They literally were popping out of the frame when I tried to put it back together.
was it a vespa? They haven't made one for a few years right?
Dude awesome! Thanks for the insight! If Versa is getting more popular, how can I be sure that I'm not ordering a clone of a clone?!? Are some vendors through dhgate more legit than others? I know clones are issues from China-Direct sites...
It says versa style knife. They are all knockoffs some are just better than others that's why the link to the guy he bought from is in the description
The traction on my knife which I got now from you guys it's no good you need a vice grip to be able to open it and close it
They have the same amount of grip as many genuine knives of the same look. And as you see in my videos and the lack of others complaining of the same issue its not the knives. No matter how many times you post this to all my videos.
Hey do you know if the internals are the same from like the d2 to the s35vn? Does the internal mechanism stay as quality in the d2 steel as the rest? I'd imagine they do, but still wanted to ask. Winter safe going on now, so... thanks for any help!
they seem identical. The d2 models still have steel internals. Usually they forgo the titanium handle hardware and upgraded blade steel yet the overall build quality stays the same.
@@purpledc1 thanks for the reply. I believe I heard that in yr video review, I had it playing in the background while getting ready for work. Great job on the videos by the way! Very helpful and informative
I got one of these and like it, however mine seems to misfire about 10% of the time. Any idea of what I need to do to fix that? Note that I am not an OTF guy and never took an OTF apart. Thanks.
Usually it is a matter of just taking it apart, cleaning every part with windex and reassembling. If it still misfires afterwards a tiny tiny TINY amount of rem oil on the flats of the blade usually sort it out.
@@purpledc1 OK, I'll give that a try. Thanks.
@@bdpf1744 pro tips. When you take the knife apart disengage the blade before you do. The spring may not go flying because its attached to the carrier with clips but it still will make it easier separating while keeping it all close by. Also there is a pin in the blade. I like to put a tiny dab of grease on the side of that pin and then wipe off all excess with a an alcohol wipe. This prevents that little piece from rattling if in your pocket. When reassembling I recommend blue loctite but it will be most effective after cleaning the screws with alchohol. You probably got back up screws but to prevent them from walking out at all loctite is your friend. Side of the screw at the tip but not on it. Tiny bit. If you use too much it will settle on the blade, harden and make the knife unreliable.
@@purpledc1 Thanks a lot for the tips, much appreciated.
How's it holding up? I'm looking at picking up the wharnecliff style blade from highendedc
both the double edge and the interceptor I carry daily. Both knives are properly maintained and function perfectly.
How long did it take to get?
I just received a knife from highendEDC and it took 45 days to get!
scott ehrlichman took mine a little over 15 days
I finally got the knife but you need a vice grip to be able to work it to open it or close it very hard and the tool for those little screws does not fit that's very sad I like the knife is very flat nice blue but
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This review made me order one. Thanks lol
Very cool. If for some reason yours comes and it misfires just take it apart, clean it and reassemble with a few stratigically placed drops of rem oil and you will be gtg. I carry mine everyday. They are amazing.
PurplEDC Reviews I appreciate your help. Where do you place the oil? On the springs?
PurplEDC Reviews yeah it was between this, and a Andy paladin with m390 ($125). Your praise of this knife made the choice easy.
one on each flat of the blade, its spine and choil. cycle few times. Then wipe off all the excess. And you will be set.
PurplEDC Reviews thanks for the tips. I appreciate your help
How long about does shipping take
do you're all over the place with this vid.
**EDIT, See comment below**
Current batches are not fixed, going to contact seller tonight but I would stay away for now. Has issues opening and closing literally 60 percent operational.
That's crazy. I just got another in today and it doesn't have any issues. which version did you get?
Ok, I have fixed the knife.
1. Spring under the button was too weak, replaced with one of the extras that had more tension
2. There was a lot of machining waste in the tracks of the knife, weirdly did not make it seem gritty, but hard to tell since it is an otf, a good cleaning and light polishing of some minor scratches and it seems to be working 100 percent. I just use motor oil with a little transmission fluid as a lubricant.
I would advise anyone to take this knife apart before you even fire it one time, would probably save some polishing, or I may have just got unlucky with a dirty one, overall I would retract my statement to stay away, definitely a high value knife with excellent fit and finish if you are the type of person that doesn't mind it not working flawlessly out of the box, a little elbow grease goes a long way with this one. I have the silver trodoon with the single blade top faux serations.
I will back up this claim. I recieves my knife yesterday and i wish i had seen this comment to clean it first. It fires 2 out of 3 times.
Is there anything i should know before i open this? Never opened an otf
Ok. I would clean it out. Use some lighter fluid to make sure all residual crap is outside the knife. Then after all parts are clean and dry reassemble but use a very small amount of rem oil on the lockface, and the blade flats and spine. Just a half a drop on each flat, the spine and the lock face. Mine works perfectly after that.
Any chance you'd be willing to sell one of these knives? I'm very interested please let me know.
Sorry. Both of them are keepers.
I understand, I just decided to get some off Dhgate.
Update - Another MT Clone U-Turned back to South Korea. The other one was from South Korea also. I have knives coming from UK, Czech Republic, China, and Russia; all of those are just about to hit my door and did not take much time to get here (vice sitting at the LAX ISC for 3 weeks for a Return to Sender). I guess the USPS has a Hard On for South Korea via DH Gate at the moment. USPS had the nerve to say on the tracking was on the way to my address right up until the flight landed in Seoul South Korea 12 hours ago. The bums!
I'm not understanding. Do you live in south korea and are trying to import or are you saying your knives were shipped from south korea?
PurplEDC Reviews Nope, Washington State. All my knives coming from South Korea have been U Turned. Other places they are coming like UK, Russia, China, and Czech Republic. Mikov is arriving today according to tracking. At the town P.O. at this minute.
huh. I haven't got anything fro korea. Not sure what is up with that.
Do they make a smaller microtech size clone? How are they?
So far nothing smaller.
Are you a dealer for this knife? If I buy one I would rather do it through you. Thanks.
I appreciate the vote of confidence. But unfortunately right now the laws are such that getting involved on that level just isn't possible. It opens me up to a lot more than just pissed off people in the comments section. But I honestly wouldn't think twice about dealing with the folks at CHEEDC. They have never lost a package of mine. And I have placed a ton of orders.
PurplEDC Reviews Googling CHEEDC doesn't result in anything. Any more info?
sorry its the seller in my links for the video. Its stands for Chinas high end EDC. They sell on ali express and dhgate. I prefer dhgate.
Thanks again. I've been following you for a long time on Blade Forums and have come to greatly value your advice and recommendations.
thanks a lot. I appreciate the support. I do this for you guys.
Or do they have other blade grinds besides those two?
Jovonn Trujillo they have the hellhound tanto blade aswell.
Where can you buy this knife??
if the links no longer work you have to search DHgate and alixpress for vespa knife. I dont have any contact witht the companies anymore so I do not know what they are selling the knives under.
What would you recommend on the shipping method?
If you can afford the expedited shipping its worth it. You get the knife in a few days rather than 2-3 weeks. And with the slower shipping method you will likely NOT see any tracking movement until it gets within your country. Hope that helps.
Are there any us sellers of this or the ripper?
No. Importing one for yourself is in most cases not an issue. But because of the laws regarding interstate commerce and automatic knives. Specifically imported automatic knives you don't get many people interested in selling them. You do see them pop up at knife shows and gun shows fairly often but people attach a hefty premium to them. I can assure you the process for buying off of DHgate or aliexpress is much like amazon or ebay. I have never been scammed. And I have ordered a lot of knives. Including from numerous profiles just to confirm I wasn't getting special treatment because they knew I would be reviewing a purchase. Its not like it was 15 years ago and these sites were questionable on if you would even get something shipped to you.
dhgate?
Can the carbon fiber in the fuller be removed?
I highly doubt it. Usually any inlay in a blade material is done permanently. Im not even sure the G10 can come out of the handle yet.
what site has these for sale? having trouble finding it
www.dhgate.com/store/product/high-quality-vespa-combat-troodon-knife-blade/409400104.html?skuAttr=9999:1003#st1-7-1|0|0;stprod|3557685727 . There you go.
@@purpledc1 thank you greatly appreciate it sir subbed earned
Most of the models are sold out unfortunately :(
Is the pocket clip reversible for us lefties?
of course. Just remove the glass breaker and flip it over.
How can you get one of those knives??
Its simple. You place an order. And you get shipped the knife. If you are talking about the intricacies and legalities, that is a conversation to be had in private.
I have a friend big guy he had to use two hands also to be able to use that knife to open it and close it not only that the tool they gave me with the knife does not fit
I don't care if you friend is a sumo wrestler. If he hasn't owned an otf either and he isn't a THUMB wrestler then he is suffering the same thing as you. Its very common please ask anyone on any knife forum who knows about these knives. And the bit I guarantee will work if they didn't flat out send you the wrong one. For me to confirm any of what you are saying I would need to see the knife in person. I'm sorry, but with you not wanting to accept my answers as the truth there is only so much that I can do. Now, you have posted on two different videos of mine for two different knives. Did you buy two knives? Because if you bought a troodon and a cypher you should note that the tools that come with each knife only work with that knife. The ONLY thing I can think of is if they sent you a troodon tool instead of a cypher tool. How long is the tool you got and was It just the cypher you bought?
Your thumbs look like my big toe. Nice video. I ordered some.
You have incredibly fucked up toes man, lol.
Wanna sell that black one
I don't need it....I don't need it...I don't need it!...............IIIIIIII. NNNNNNNEEEEEDDDDDD IIIITTTT
I know man. But really, you do need it.
Yes...I do ) ; Great review by the way
Thanyou. I appreciate it.
I just ordered a cheap Titan for $31. Now I want to order this black combat knife just to have and to hold, and to take it apart. That mechanism and spring combo is out of this world, and looks like it should be inside of a machine gun.
Does anyone know the name of the style blade that is flat like a razor, looks like a reversed Tanto in a way, with the Rambo grooves on top that looks like saw teeth? That's the blade I want. Sick, to say the least. Thanks for the vid.
HA SpongeBob
Is the blade sharp on the two sides ?
Yes sir.
Thanks . Is the size is the same as the former Combat Troodon from Vespa ( blade and handle ) ? Because i have a former Vespa combat troodon and i'm interested by the new .
The handle and blade length are approx. the same. I don't think parts would be interchangeable. But I have not tried.
Thanks mate .
No problem.
Benchmade quality control blows goats ( I have proof ) go to the knife store and try them don't buy benchmade through the mail unless you like sending stuff back and forth !
I agree. And I hate to say it, but I bought a Benchmade clone from China (DHgate) and its fucking AWESOME quality! Tighter tolerances and better finished than any of my “real” Benchmades. Kinda makes me wanna puke!!!
Who sells the knife?
Dhgate vespa knife . Seller chinahighendedc
Thanks.
Dude... extra screws, springs, and a screw driver?? These guys are absolutely shaming Microtech...
Your so Rite!!, I got 2 from DHGATE, Stunning Knives !!!!
Um... I sense a conspiracy!
Anyone have one of these Vespa high quality knives up for grabs? I'm looking to grab one. Dhgate is non user friendly for me. Thanks
Try Again my Friend, You might get Lucky
Better hurry up because most of the D/E models are already sold. The silver D/E is all gone now. Glad I placed my order when I did.
Wow. Glad to see people are responding well to them.
Should I be worried I zombie ordered this and it's coming via epacket?
nope. No need to worry. Many times the type of shipping varies depending on many factors. The most important of which is what is moving fastest and what they feel will ensure customers getting their products. Even in the event your item has a problem in shipping they will stand behind it no matter what.
Matt C it took 8 days for my order to make it to the Los Angeles distribution center. During that time period there is no tracking information available.
Yes, the benefit of Epacket is it comes fairly quickly. But with any foreign mail if its not sent express or priority then you don't get tracking. And even then many times it wont work until its in the USA.
It doesn't matter how good you think it is- it is still a CLONE (So much for Autocorrwxt)
akasigfreak clone
Okay? And?
I ordered one a month ago it stays in Los Angeles because it is illegal there even I live in Arizona so I paid for nothing how do you guys get those knives over there over here I'm very upset I paid the money and I get nothing I waited over 1 month for that stupid knife and I get nothing
What does your tracking actually say? If you haven't got a confiscation letter then it could just be held up.
I just got one of these. The hellhound version and the blade is rebounding on retraction what can i do to fix this issue?please help. I contacted chinahighendedc and they are giveing me a hard time with resolving this issue
Don't panic. Many of us (customers and I) are discovering that these knives are coming with some contaminants inside the knife from manufacturing. But with a little tlc you will be right as rain. Basically what I tell people to do is break down the knife with the tool provided. Do not remove the locks in the handle. They are fine. But you want to remove the blade and firing assembly. Clean everything with windex on a terry cloth towel. No paper towels as they can leave lint behind. After you have everything clean, you can put a tiny dab of grease under the springs if desired though it isn't necessary. Then I just reassemble it. After reassembly re engage the blade but before operating it put a few drops of very extremely light machine oil. I prefer rem oil as it is super thin and effective and wont gum up your action. Place a small drop on the spine, each flat of the blade and the lock face (what most would call a sharpening choil) and operate it. You should be good to go. If it misfires a few months down the road just give it another dose of rem oil. You can pick it up at Walmart for a couple dollars. Do not use thick viscous oils like nano lube or militec.
also if you are not comfortable I can do the service for you free of charge and give you a nice satin or mirror custom button top and sides. Your choice on any combination of satin and mirror on the button. I do that by hand. All I ask is you pay the shipping.
Thanks for the info ill break it down and clean it
Hey Richard, If you don't mind me asking...what color is your handle on your knife?( blue by any chance) I am starting to wonder if this is a blue handle issue.
Funny you mention that. The blue knife in my first video was the one that I disassembled and said was giving problems out of the gate. It does seem to be the color most affected. And it was that way with the original run.
The Chinese machinists are every bit as good as any other nation's work...and faaar less expensive.
I have had problems with customs seizing my orders in the past.How do you get around that issue?I cant pay much that for a blade that i do want but dont want to loose my $$.
They use specific carriers and make sure to send products through certain channels to ensure they don't get flagged. I'm sorry but with prying eyes and such has me hesitant to go into any further specifics as it would jeopardize the system that ensures everyone gets their product. And in the event your item does not make it to you remember that delivery is guaranteed. They will either send another or refund you.
if only it wasnt so ugly =/
No ! You don't know how microtech can justify ripping off American !
Shame
Oh shut the fuck up. You realize who you are defending right? That amount of ignorance alone disqualifies you from having an opinion. Do it again and ill simply remove you from the conversation.
damn what a nazi
I have a zero tolerance policy with trolls. My channel doesn't get any promotion anywhere. Its information for those looking for it. If you seek me out to be an idiot remember, its my house, my fuckin rules.
What did you delete your message all ready? Yes that was my response. When you stop by just to take a shit and shame me for what I can only assume is your misinformation yes that is the response you get from me. You want mature adult like replies? Make mature comments or questions then. You will get treated exactly how you behave when dealing with me. Now the reason I said you were ignorant and asked you who you are defending is because the company in question (microtech) steal designs. Many of their designs are stolen from other makers and no credit given for their ideas. So when you come at me over people "stealing creativity" to me it shows you either don't know about the designs they have stolen (hence my use of the word "ignorant") or you feel that because they are microtech and a USA based company that the company gets carte blanche. I feel if you steal designs, then you cant get all whiny when someone steals your designs. Eye for an eye so to speak. I'm sorry if you felt slighted by my response. But please try to think about how many comments like yours I deal with on an ongoing basis. From where I'm at anyone rushing to defend microtech over stolen designs is either misinformed or they just feel that the rules don't apply to them. I do hope you understand my position and no hard feelings.
I had to rethink why I wrote that (shame), it's kinda lame and for that I apologize, I'm new to this type of social media. What I meant to say is this; The quality of these knives looks really good, nice materials and construction. What gets me is that it is a blatant copy of a Marfione Custom, looks like the size of the Combat Troodon. I imagine it took some time for the original (Marfione) design to evolve. Calling it a clone does not mean it's not stealing. I never realized that Vespa does this with many popular models, I don't understand how this is legal. Is it? I would be interested in seeing what this company can create without "cloning."I welcome a true response to this.