BMW Turbo Wastegate MALFUNCTION
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- This one could get EXPENSIVE.
This 2014 BMW X3 2.0L Twin Power Turbo has been going into "reduced power" mode due to a problem with the Electronic Wastegate Actuator.
There is no available information from BMW to troubleshoot these codes, so let's take the logical approach and pinpoint the root cause before loading up the parts sniper rifle :)
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Enjoy!
Ivan
Awsome repair and no parts required! Getting close to 100K! 💪💪
Thanks Dan! I knew you would be proud of this BMW NPR repair :D
I like that Dan is in close contact with you tubers with great and highly educative automotive contents. Just like scannerdanner. It shows that these things (testing procedures etc) are all universal.
@Milan Harry I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site through google and im trying it out atm.
Takes quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.
@Milan Harry it worked and I finally got access to my account again. Im so happy:D
Thank you so much you saved my ass!
Another epic diagnostic which ends up with fixing just what needs to be fixed, versus randomly replacing expensive parts!!! Nice job again!!!
What scanner were you using?
Guy with old Buick in back yard removes oil pan, washes it out.
Guy with BMW sits in Customer lounge at Jiffy Lube with coupon.
You just know the dealership would've thrown a new actuator/sensor assembly at it and charged more hours than you on top of parts.
Yep! They asked me to go ahead and replace everything. Even the oil tubes .... ~$5k
Your absolutely right!!!
Their diagnosis would be to replace the complete Turbo assembly w/ actuator
Thats the dealer way
TH-cam REWARD IS COMING 100K
He's going to have 6 zeros before I have 3! lol
What's the reward?
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics- silver play button bro! You're so humble about your success.
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics - Only 3k to go, Ivan! Congrats!! Well deserved I might add. 👍🍻
I'm surprised display didn't say "drive to dealership, bring checkbook"
Kevin Barry I'm surprised "the" display.....
I think it did say, consulte service ctr", lol. Present credit card!!!
There is a whole Twitter meme about this when BMW PR asked "Tell us you drive a BMW without telling us you drive a BMW".... A whole lot of the replies were about BMWs constantly breaking and costing far too much to repair....
A checkbook, jeez, that must have been 20 years ago since I used that!
@@ronaldderooij1774 it was a metaphor. Sorry you didn't catch it
Let me put your thoughts at ease. I can not thank this guy enough for this video. I've had this exact issue on my car and I been up and down the country paid one bmw dealership for 3hr to run diagnostics on the car at a cost of £450 took them 3 hr to find the fault (so they said) quoted me over 4000 for the replacement of the low pressure turbo. That's one bmw took it to the next one 2 hr of checking! This place works quicker than the last one highly recommend them, (NOT)£300 later quoted me over 6000 for both turbos to be changed. At this point I give up drove the car for over a year until I come across this video. We need more people like you in the world God bless and keep up the good work. Fixed it for free thanks to you.
did you use the computer/adjustment stuff or did you just tighen the actuator? because i dont have any of the expensive stuff he's using to do the adjustments but I do have an arm, and some tools. If I just tighten that will it be okay? or will my car just fall apart for some god damn reason?
Try loosening the 10mm lock nut, rotate what he did 3 times and tightening lock nut back up. Won’t hurt anything. If not find someone with ista. It’s free to download but big and you need an enet cable.
Thank you so much for this post. I also went to my dealer. Took them 1,5 hours to come back and tell me, that they have to take out the engine and replace the wiring harness. Cost: 4000€ 🤦♂ How is this legal??? I mean, probably afterwards the some problem would still exist 😤 Really, can't thank you enough! 🙏
Hi just in case you didnt notice he has the tool in the description, same price as one trip to a German shop. I think I might pull the trigger, anyone have a better option? ICOM and ISTA seems like it could be unreliable.
This is how BMW cheaply restock their used car lots. Now I understand how there can be nothing but BMW:s in them.
Cheap valvoline oil change, air cabin filter, engine air filter, windshield wipers $220.00 - $7 coupon 😄
Valvoline Cheap oil for this customer??? How many good synthetic oil changes could he purchase with the $900 you just saved him Ivan??? Great job Russian repair once again!
That was actually OEM repair as per the repair service manual
The $900 is probably the hourly rate fee
Should have used German ' Motul ' oil. It's made in Germany for German cars. Yes it's expensive but what else would be appropriate for your Beemer, Merc or VW ???
charles kosyjana Penrite oils?...
BMW engines are noted for self destruction right after warranty. Cheap insurance calls for changing oil and filter at 2X the BMW recommended rate. I wonder if changing the oil every 7,500 Km (5,000 mi) and using cheap oil works to this end. If it was my car, I'd use the good stuff.
"Continue with continue"... ranks right up there with "stand by to stand by"
Or the infamous "No keyboard detected! Press F1" .
Or "An error occurred, while trying to display the previous error", has to be typical of Micro$oft!!🙄🙄
Who would drive a BMW but then cheap out on the oil the car will be coming back to IIvan next time for stripped oil pan bolt we all know how these quick lube place's end up .Ps I forgot about the vanos on BMW like vag are very sensitive to oil brands and types so they'll be back to Iven to get a whole new vanos stuff.
A case of wanting to impress by driving a BMW but having beer money....not champagne. I will not lie..I only have Toyota money...is all I can afford.
I’ve learnt, to cheap out is expensive, -in the long run.
@@mikefoehr235 Yah I'm the same I don't think there actually getting the oil changed I think it's just a excuse for him to turn off the lights and who would find maintenance reminders annoying there very handy to have.
@@paulsz6194 Yes Paul your right there it always ends that way even on tractors and bikes, go karts ect.
With the money you saved him he should have you do the oil change, you really saved the customers r a fortune. The dealer would not have done that. They would have replaced the actuator if he was lucky and the Turbo is he wasn’t so lucky. Should be an hour for diag. 1.5 at least for the repair
Well what's the guys time and effort worth?
He has to drive the car to another shop for his discount...what's that worth in fuel, time and inconvenience?
Valvoline coupon? Does it include a stripped out drain bolt?
Man, you can't fix stupid. Then again, he's driving an X3 to begin with.
Brilliant diagnosis and repair. Without good service data and a scope 99% of garages would have shot down a turbo and actuator. This was a good one
No parts required : Ivan’s speciality Every customer’s favourite. Good advice about the oil changes!
Open wastegate, insert BMW through it, buy a sensible vehicle. Nobody cares that you drive a BMW
Some people drive a BMW because they can and not because they care what someone driving a Kia thinks. For that reason alone. BMW is a sensible car.
@@giggiddy If you say so
@@giggiddy i work on bmw all the time. I disagree with everything you just said... cars suck, built by idiots, and customers can’t afford the repair but think it looks cool (status symbol).
Lol shhhhhh we make alot of money fixing them shhhhh
@@giggiddy You are delusional man..German cars are the paragon of junk. FULL STOP
Great repair ! If he had taken it to the dealer they probably would have sold him a turbo for several thousand dollars !
Actuator + labour would probably be $1500- $2000 Most customers will trade it in and sign up for a new lease and BMW has a healthy stock of used cars in their lot for the lowest outlay.
Yes but it would have fixed the problem. 😜
My dealer wants 6k in Seattle for the turbo n20. Taking into my own hands now.
this is exactly what the dealer told me, to change out the entire turbo when it was just the wastegate issue. dealer wanted $6000 LOL.
that just happened to me
Gotta use that 50 cent coupon you got from a paper you paid $2.30 for!
Yes, Good job Ivan, can't believe he cheaped out on a BMW oil change, he should have just bought a BMW sticker and put it on a Ford fusion. lol
Well I was just quoted $4500 for a new turbo. I found your video and adjusted the wastegate but only did three turns. Unfortunately I do not have the software to find the exact specs. Start of the car codes all went away car is running fine and the turbo is now working.
I don’t have a scanner neither to tell how much it is off. I’m going to turn it 1 at a time, test drive, and adjust turn again if needed. How is it holding up did the malfunction error came back?
Now you did it, you knocked the BMW dealer out of a bunch of money. Just think as soon as the diagnostics came back with a fault code the new part would go on and the adjustment would have been made and the customer would see a new part and no more problems and that would be that. The customer gets a bill for 2k the part that is still good goes to the landfill and the replacement part probably won't last as long as the one that is on there now will last. Good job on using the dianostic tools and caring enough to do the job right and take care of the customer.
Always love your detective work, Ivan. No parts on a BMW.. There's a chance pigs may fly yet. Good job!
Exactly!!! They buy a $50,000 car and put .50 cent oil and filter in it. Bad move that will cost you in the end. But the good news, more repair work for you👍
I’ve been having the same issues for the last 2 months and I’ve taken my car to bmw and a local bmw shop. I was told that I was gonna have to replace my whole turbo setup and I was quoted somewhere around 5k from bmw. This was the only vid I’ve found with the same issue I was having. I gave it a shot since I noticed my actuator linkage was a little loose and IT WORKED!!! You literally saved me $5000. Thank you!
Did you use a scan tool to figure out the adjustments or just did 4 turns?
@@B0RNfree I'm having the same issue and the same question. If it's just loose, can't we just turn until it's tight? Why has to be a particular range?
@@paulc.8727 i am also having this EXACT issue and would like to know why this is so particular.
Dealing with this now. Use ista to find what range you are in. I loosened the retaining nut. Turn the big tip of the actuator like he did 3.5 almost 4 turns and then tighten the bolt. Waiting to see if error comes back. If so you might have to tighten the actual bolt behind the retaining bolt the 4 turns the tighten it up.
i think mine is entirely a different issue ... hear this, the rod connect actuator and waste gate disappeared (fall off?)
The Valvoline people surely aren't going to reset the Vehicle Check service for them.
johnaclark1 “ Valvoline...you know what I mean”....
Ivan, you called it beautifully...that was an “EPIC” BMW fix! Nice diagnosis and repair!
Well at least it looks easy to work on there's lots of room in that engine bay.
There's a lot of high tech in that little package haha
It's the same engine as the sedans, hence the room
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Yah typical euro stuff I guess.
The money you saved him,go for a good oil change and filter. I have a 2008 crv and I use oem fluids and filters..as well as my F350 6.0. Great job Ivan per usual!
Pay me now, or pay me more later. He will be back Ivan.
A true Master Mechanic!!
Bring My Wallet.
Broke My Wallet
Do you not like liquid electrical tape to seal up holes in wire ?
I was wondering how long dielectric grease will last.
I think that’s actually a great idea.
@@dans_Learning_Curve I'm sure Ivan meant that liquid electrical would be used. He uses it all of the time - pay attention.
Great diagnosis Ivan, allways learning something new, thanks for sharing.
Best regards from the UK.
John.
Imagine one second the disaster if the owner went to the dealership... They weren't going to kindly adjust the link, but of course tell him he's good for a turbo. However, he shouldn't indeed go to a cheap oil change place.
That was great, and you're absolutely right about the oil change component quality, going cheep is just looking for trouble
Dealer would have sold them a turbo or something.
kenneth bode the whole exhaust manifold with turbo ... The car wizard made a similar video on an Audi Q5.
Technically it does need a turbo, but if you don’t mind the rattle it’s drivable.
What scanning tool are you using for the adjustment procedure? Ive got the same code, wanting to know how far to adjust. Thank you
Great job Ivan. What, no parts repair, nice.
Research often pays off. Did the linkage adjustment also solve the rattling noise?
I did this, and it fixed my drive train malfunction & rattle.
@@griffingatesdid you used any software or just turn 4 times?
@literally just turned. still no issues to this day.
@@griffingates amazing bro. BMW says turbo replacement needed but most people just solved the problem by turning the nut just like you.
@definitely worth a shot if you’re having a drivetrain malfunction and they say it’s the turbo. saved me lots of money.
Had the same exact problem at 150K miles, this video was super helpful. Used Ista+ to do the wastegate adjustment procedure. Mine was out -2.99 mm.
Man, you saved me $6400, I went to the dealership and they said that I have to replace the turbo! Turns out that I had the exact same problem! And now it’s fixed, thank you so much for this video, you rock!
This was super helpful! Had the exact same problem and fixed it by adjusting the waste gate actuator. Used ITSA to diagnose and obtain required adjustment parameters.
ISTA
As a new BMW owner of a ‘17 540i xdrive I really took interest in this. I’ve seen videos of turbo swaps on late model BMWs where installers stresses the importance of not changing the waste gate settings while swapping it over to a new turbo.
finaly a new video :) was starting to get the shakes.. needed a Pine Hollow fix now .. :) keep up the good work
scotty is looking for friends...
Ivan a fix it again!......ooops that’s Dan.....hahaha. Well done friend. Can’t wait until you and Rob D do your collab video man. If I was in PA You’d be my mechanic of reference. Enjoying watching your channel grow friend. Great stuff.
Sweet fix Ivan! Thanks for taking us along!
This is the first time I have ever seen a Hall effect sensor used to output a linear voltage. This requires 2 things in addition to the sensing element itself : the actuator rod must vary magnetic flux density with position and there must be an op amp inside the sensor/housing (actual Hall voltage is usually in mV).
Boss your a legend no more error less gooo!!!🙌
Excellent diagnosis. Seems too easy a repair for a BMW; saved the car owner big $$$
Yeah I was ready to quote him the actuator haha
Makes you wonder what a bmw dealership would have quoted him for! Car wizard had a similar video on a n Audi Q5...
Love these no parts required videos. Just pure skill and nothing else required 👌🏻
Excellent diagnostic.!!!
Clearly designed to fail just like this.
Actually NO PARTS REQUIRED??? do my eyes deceive me??? Wow! Great job on fixing that Wastegate adjustment and testing all that!! Wow! Great video, bud! Many thumbs up! 👍
Alvin I have a 99 volvo S70 non turbo I had a miss when it was running now it's no start I'm too old to be out in the cold I would greatly appreciate it if you can message me back for a starting e. Ty
Hey Alvin my old Buick needs a tune up, can you help a brother out?
BMW. Big Wasted Money. Lol.
***Big Money Wasted. Oops.
Don't diss my BWM!
Lol. Not yours. Yours is fine. Lol.
Worked like a charm. I had the same engine, mileage, and error code on my BMW 428i (F36). I decided to try 4 rotations of the actuator arm instead of replacing the turbo like the mechanic wanted to.." to avoid turbo failure while driving". No error code after three months of driving. Thank you for the video
Awesome job Ivan! Ivan you said put dielectric grease on the punctured wires, did you mean liquid tape or did I get confused? Still learning here!!!
Dielectric grease isn't as messy and doesn't dry and crack from the heat :)
You’re the man! Fixed my issue!! IVAN the Russian!!
Ivan. I "rode" with you throughout the entire diag and fix. Great analytical thinking to get to the "fix point." When you were calculating the number of turns on the rod assy, I said out loud: "Three turns." :) Missed it my one. :) I love it when your plans come together. I know you get great satisfaction in "figuring it all out," and so do I watching you. :) Love it. Thanks,
How simple can it be. Just wear in the linkage. Nice fix Ivan.
prepared to pay for a new turbo, want's a discount on an oil change.. SMH Valvoline does make a fairly nice synthetic oil though..
As always Ivan you da man. Castrol oil or Amsoil. Never the others.
Penzoil is pretty good, too
Why is everyone on the BMW hate train? It seems like a lack of understanding on how to repair them, understandably so with lack of technical data available but honestly they seem to be pretty reliable in Europe so not sure what happens to them when the get shipped over to the USA . I live in the UK and see them on a regular basis as I do annual vehicle inspections and rarely see problems .
"Not sure what happens to them when shipped to the USA"
Our EPA Nazis could very easily mandate reprogramming them, without the Customer's knowledge or consent, for the strict CAFE/CARS Laws set in place.
I know for a fact- that years ago, "exotics" were "dechipped" and "detuned"
straight off the boat. Look at the mess Volkswagen was just in, falsifying
their EPA emissions data. Thanks to CA and NY following them- the US is becoming very hostile to ICE vehicles, CA being the worst.
Here in New Zealand, we have nz new and Japanese import models. We have all the problems too. SMG failures, Vanos, ECU and module failures, oil leaks galore. And the junky plastic parts, oh my god. Even with dealer servicing, it doesn't seem to help reliability. They are money pits after warranty runs out. I'd love to see what they do differently to the Euro ones. I call them comfortable junk
Because they are expensive junk in the us kinda like a gm product.
@@frankmcdonough3351 GM is horrible nowadays. Actually- from 1995 up, just gets worse & worse. Most parts from Canada, Mexico & China, assembled in Mexico, 2 shits given to quality. They've got that down to a science. 1 month after warranty- BOOM!
Ivan, you are FEARLESS! I love it.
Great video. Tightened and it fixed the issue. Check engine light gone
Ivan, I agree on the service of oil, my daily driver 2002 VW MK 4 -1.8 T- 289,000 on the clock. Stage 1 flash - cold air intake- heavy-duty exhaust manifold-tuned exhaust system.
my local VW dealer does all the work ( never thought I would be having a Dealer be my primary maintenance provider )
The shop foreman and I have become good friends along with most of the personal there.
Cheers from San Francisco.
Logical approach. That explains why Cornell is better than UTI..
A drop of some kind of loctite on the nut? problem?
Ivan, I predict you will see plenty of turbo related problems as car companies are pushing turbos in alot of their Inventory. Like you said, turbos require religious oil changes with a quality synthetic motor oil. They are not forgiving on it's negligence and will break down.
From one BMW mechanic to Another BMW mechanic i thank you very much for your video, i was fixing M235i customer towed with terminal 15N2 short to ground code, crank no start, so i found the issue on ISM module and replaced it and car started up, took it for a spin and bam exact same code for wastegate, i fixed tons of vacuum wastegate and electric one never dealt before, have exact same launch scanner and mine showed 3.99 negative, so luckily i ran in to your video, and i could not call my customer and tell him, guess what i fixed your issue now you have a turbo issue LOL, so i adjusted without telling my customer and SHE IS HAPPY just like you said :))) so N55 and N20 is exact same adjustment on the wastegate. Thank you Partner, stay safe and keep the awesome videos coming !!!!!
Such good information. I just had the same issue pop up the other day on a m235i I purchased a month ago and have been scouring the forums up and down trying to diagnose this issue. Based on my MHD logs my actuator is mechanically functional, it’s just failing the start up test sporadically.
Thank you for sharing that this issue can happen with an N55 as well!!
Epic! Love learning keep up the good work man!
Awesome ! NPR on a BMW !!!! Thanks Ivan
These cars have 30.000km (~18.000 miles) oil change intervals in Germany. Oil should meet BMW LL-04 spec. Not a fan of these long oil change intervals but 5000 miles sounds too frequent to me. I change the oil every 10.000 miles or once a year.
Better safe than sorry if you want it to last a long time!
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics true. But I'm a cheapskate 😅
I can't believe these people drive the German cars pretending to have champagne money but really only beer money. Guy cheaps out on oil change...I am amazed he made it out of the birth canal. Great repair Ivan...you spared that guy two arms and a leg.
And who do you think is going to buy these cars after the first owner decides to trade them in? Or are you suggesting they should just be scrapped instead?
@@rafflesnh I know it will NOT be me. I have been driving Toyota since 2004...it was the smartest choice I ever made.
The buried component in witch touching the component is a challenge, we didn't see the wiring of the connector but that task probably would be too much for me. I suspect the owner is a customer for life, tough that means you have to endlessly work on a falling apart BMW with 80K and beyond miles. At what point does he tell the owner after a fix to dump the car because this car is not a reliable daily driver.
Agreed, I know of well to do folks with big homes and they run around in the dark and during summer, way hot inside homes to save on the power bill. Amazing how psychology works with well off people vs those with just enough.
@@mikefoehr235 You have 1 life, and decided to drive a Toyota for nearly 20 years because you're frugal.
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Can you share what scanner you used for the wastegate measurements?
Your service information described the wastegate position sensor as a "Hall effect sensor" but your scope capture clearly shows that it is a potentiometer. Not only does BMW have sparse service information, but wrong service information also!
Your the Man Ivan!
Nice Job Ivan. A very thorough diagnosis, repair and proof of repair.
Any other mechanical would just replace the turbocharger it's good that Iven did proper testing and fixed the issue.
Absolutely, my Kia dealer replaced a complete turbo assembly under warranty, shipped it. It performed just as bad when I got it, apparently they did not noticed a split in half intercooler.
@@vadim7590 That's crazy sure to God they would of heard the hissing sound under decel thank goodness it was under warrantyl .
@@neilmurphy845 probably didn’t pressure test it for a leak and unlikely they even drove it. Probably checked codes (turbo performance) and parts cannoned a turbo on it.
@@robry84 Yah more than likely I was always told by my family and friends to never waste money going to a dealership they said go to a mechanic that is known to be good unless it's under warranty.
@@neilmurphy845 if it’s under warranty then who cares. Especially when they’ll give you a loaner.
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Excellent video Ivan, thank you! Is pretty much the same system you find in the turbo Hyundai Santa Fe, launch x431 has bmw OEM diagnostic software, that is really helpful
Just wanted to say thanks! Was looking on how to do EWG adjustments and replace actuator on my 2013 f34 328ix , since at first i thought the problem is with faulty actuator, but watching the video realised that I have exactly the same issue just to a little less extent since I only get it after long driving and doing ignition off / on within a short timeframe, if it stays over night at the morning it dissapears. And I dont actually need to replace the actuator
I dont have access to Launch or ISTA so I decided to blindly adjust it, I did 3 turns, because as I said my issue is less severe. Drive train malfunction gone, everything works good so far after 2 test drives.
Good fix on what could have been an expensive repair.Some less scrupulous shops if they were smart enough ! would have removed the actuator and cleaned and painted it and charged the guy 1250,00 plus tax for a {REBUILT UNIT} and shipped it.AND the customer would have been happy,you know it's like a BEE sting when you get the BILL >it only HURTS for a few minutes,so stop your crying!!!! that's what my wife tells me when im in the yard.This guy is just asking for trouble BUY NOT following YOUR recommendation.great job IVAN
Smashing, no parts repair :-D
The question is how did it get out of adjustment.
Linkage wear perhaps.
Maybe the guy hammers it, causing early wear.
Though it looks like he rarely has it serviced, so that may have contributed to it happening, since it might be checked/adjusted during a normal service?
So profesional perfect diagnosis I bet that customer was thrilled
What a honest guy. I bet if it was someone else they would of said they had to order the part and charge a arm and a leg
Nice one Ivan! I had a similar situation as well, no parts needed! th-cam.com/video/DisGdDqhYkU/w-d-xo.html but the best part on what I (and you as well ) found was the use of the scope and how you can clearly see when the dme isn't happy and why. You would never know the answer to the codes if you never scope it. and P.S. you can reset all the cbs data thru the cluster still on that chassis. thanks for sharing!
Excellent! I can’t imagine a BMW tech adjusting the linkage when a new $BMW$ part and a couple hours labor will fix it much more expensively. Too bad you can’t do telemed Zoom repairs. Teletech.
Now, Keith DeFazio is doing it. I wonder how he is doing ...
This seemed to be hard to diagnose and you did it without any new parts required!
You did great job and had amazing patient to make all the test you could do
Hey brother thank you so much your video had the solution to my problem !praise God! I would give you a million likes if i could
Great repair to watch even though the electrical part is somewhat over my head
Thanks for the video
Excellent repair. Oil change places love to strip the drain plug
Thank you so much for the informative diagnosis. I bought the bimmer 7 years ago with this annoying rattle that I never understood. I was prepared to buy a new actuator before seeing this. Now I have a smoother sounding car and saved $250. I'm stoked. Cheers
Awesome!
did it rattle the most in eco pro mode ? it's turning me crazy!!! i have 1 year warranty on my car but i don"t know how to tell my dealership to fix it... how do i tell them
Hello sir, would you help telling me the size and threads pitch of the two nuts that go on the wastegate actuator rod ? These are the two nuts that are used to make the adjustment and also to connect the bracket to Turbo. Mine fell off (don't know the reason) the other day and hence Turbo is not working . FYI, I had the wastegate actuator changed couple of months ago by a local mechanic.
Thanks for your help in advance...
No not a break my wallet at 71,000 MI lol
Always enjoy you’re trouble shooting techniques.
Man where do u find the guts to tackle these problems.....Flawless and epic indeed
you are the MAN!!! Saved my ass. Immediately started throwing parts at it, wastegate actuator specifically. Bummed. Watched this. BOOM!!!
Nice 👌😁