Love your videos man. Relatively new to HVAC but you’ve helped me out as far as coming across weird stuff in the field. Sending love from Missouri! Keep up the good work!
👍Nice install. When I was in the field I had a nice Imperial brand flaring tool. I was taught to always double flare my lines so that’s how I did it. Nice system.
The factory flares are only there to hold the nuts on the lineset! Not to mention,you are to use the nuts that come on the unit,not the ones on the lineset!
Im from the UK and during my apprenticeship I must've installed hundreds of these split systems. Mitsubishi is definitely up there as one of the best performing and versatile units.
First grinder I ever had was a Dremel. Sometimes, it's the best choice for a job. A cordless dremel is pretty darn handy. Get a pocket of fiber discs, and you can cut through just about anything, without too much damage. I got the 1 9/16 M18 drill for Fathers day. About to fire it up this weekend. I got a Dewalt SDS Max to Plus adapter for it too. Hopefully I love it.
Thanks for an awesome video Ted! Old school myself, but early on in my career learned the hard way to always ream the pipe before you flare! Did a lot of refrigeration in my day so a lot of driers and TXV’s were flared. Wish that tool was available back in the day, but oh well the small amount of flares I do today, I am ok with my old Imperial kit which includes swedging as well which I use more these days. Thanks again!
I'm going against this channel's ethos and installing one of these myself, but I'm doing everything Ted is doing here. I could think of no better person to show me how.
Nice and neat installation Ted,when my Daikin Split AC requires a service next year i may book you in to service it for me over in Australia, also my Brivis HP gas central heating unit, come on over for a holiday,and i'll show you around our Beautiful " Southern Highlands " of NSW ;)
Enjoyed this video alot of good information on how to install a minisplit the right way ! Good looking out your wife and the pets I can see that you really love 💓 them and care about them Ted!
I put my own mini plit in a few years ago, and had a problem with one of the factory flares. Problem was, I didn't notice it during installation, and it caused a lot of aggravation later.
I installed a 2 head system several years ago for a fellow that had bought several off eBay. Set the outside unit between 2 areas for the heads. I cut the lines off as short as reasonable. One was around 6 feet and the other closer to 8 feet. Started and ran just fine. Next day the owner called and said one was freezing up. When and checked it. Change was good and everything seemed to be ok. Called technical support, they said it needed at least 10 of line. Don’t remember the brand, some cheap Chinese units. Changed out the lines, longer worked ok for several years but other problems eventually took it out. Only time ever had to have at least 10 foot lines.
The Yellow Jacket 60278 makes flares as nice as the Navac tool. Another great thing about it, you don’t have to debur the inside of your tubing, it does it for you. I use a dab of nylog to lubricate the head and that captures any copper burs that come off. Then just wipe the head off between flares.
Great info video Ted. Have you had any luck with Tapcon Concrete screws? I use and love them from light to heavy duty installs. Just another idea for ya. Thanks for sharing.
oh the poor old pooch deserves the luxury ... i just lost mine 2 weeks ago after 18 years ... when they are gone you wish you have have given them everything you could !
You should give the Danfoss FSA flare adapters a go. They can be brazed on the line set instead of having to bother with flaring. Another common practice here in europe is to cut the flares at the indoor unit and solder the lineset directly to it after swaging. (Maybe also because refrigrant r32 being used over here) final suggestions there are some knockouts on the indoor mounting plate so you could just use a level and manufacturer advice is to use the 5 screw holes close to the ‘hooks’ to prevent vibration and get the studiest mounting.
A really solid way to fasten into concrete is set up for expanding lead anchor then put a dab of epoxy in the hole before you put the lead anchor in. Lead anchors themselves are very weak but with epoxy bond into concrete or mortar they become very strong and are removable.
Mitsubishi and Fuji is neck and neck,I switched to Fujitsu after doing Mitsubishi for more than 25 years! Both awsome units,the differences are mute,so either one!
You can still use the bottom connection on the junction box but it did'nt have the option for the lock ring but I see you want to use the ring so penetrated the side of the box. You know the box is no longer a UL listed product once you drilled into it now considered modified the flares I would blow with pressure it looks like theres more deburring shavings inside than originally. any way I like your videos keep up the good videos.
Small units have very small charges,and these units are very resilliant! I have seen some really hacked up installs that were over 5 years old,confirmed by tge owner that no vacuum pump was used! Was told he purged the lines! But they ran flawlessly,maybe not efficiently,but they worked! I was amazed,myself!
Your attention to detail is really incomparable. I love watching your videos. Overall, I think you have me sold on not trying to do this stuff yourself. Unfortunately you are not available where I live, so I use your videos as a guide. By seeing what everyone else does wrong and how you do it right.
When cutting tubing, if you stop tightening the cutter before you cut all the way through, you can snap the tube apart with your fingers. Leaves a much smaller inside burr. Of course it takes a little practice to know "when".
If you took the hose off before charging you lost the majority of your vacuum as it sucked in outside air removing the hose. I would recommend releasing the charge with the hose attached and under the vacuum so when you remove the hose it’s under positive pressure.
Nice job. I really enjoy your videos...I was wondering if you ever use Nylog (sp?)on flare joints to help seal and lube the fitting as you tighten them? Thanks
Lowes sells the SPYDER BIT HOLE SAWS! They will blow your mind ,how well they work,conctete,brick,metal no hammer drill needed! Easily drill 3 inch hole! And they last pretty darn good!
I hate to say this but I cut my flared fitting going to my indoor unit and cut off my indoor flares and braze them, that way I never have a refrigerant leak inside!!
Hey Ted is that a Browning Golden Eagle CB base station I see sitting on that shelf @5:23? I'm jealous, that's one hell of a rig and worth a ton of money today! You should set up an antenna and get back on the air. Skip has been rolling like crazy lately! My call is 1530- Mr. Corvair in the Buckeye!
Disappointed I didn't get to hear that satisfying WHOOSH when you release the charge into the line set... but the rest of the install was fun to watch.
My parents have the same unit in their bonus room. Issue is if you set the remote to say 84 it maintains 72 about ten degrees off. Installer is saying this is normal. Mitsubishi said they may need the remote thermostat. Is yours maintaining set temp? Too bad you are so far away they are in Conway sc would have them call you for service/opinion.
Lineset length is different for every unit,every book tells the minimums and maximums! I ready then every time,after a couple hundred install,i still read the book,tgey may have changed something!
If you used just one extra loop of the line set it would eliminate the vibration. They are mostly quiet anyway so I don't think you will ever have a problem with noise.
It didn't sound like that battery drill was a hammer drill when you was drilling in the brick for the drive pin holes those concrete bits burn out fast if you don't use a hammer drill
Justin Sundby , at 52:31 there is no switch there. Just a pigtail coming out of the junction box with no way to isolate the power to the system without shutting off the circuit at the electric panel.
Hanging by the center hole to level it only works if that hole is the center of mass. So, if one side has more holes punched in it then it will not work. My first experience with these was in a hotel room in Korea. It was mounted on an inside wall, between the room and the bathroom. The hotel bathrooms in Korea have a trough next to the tub, about 2 inches wide and sloped down with a drain at the end so any water splashed out of the tub goes onto that trough. The tub was opposite the wall with the mini-split. The condensate drain came down the inside of the wall and terminated with an open pipe sticking out of the wall in front of the stool. Cold condensate water ran across the tile floor right in front of the stool to the little trough next to the tub. I was not impressed.
Nice work ted but i just think it was too much work and very unnecessary to use those drive pins, regular anchors screws would've been just fine its not like those head units are very heavy
Have a buddy with a fish pond up by his front door. Came home one day to find a bird fishing in his pond. Most of the Koi were gone. He was pretty unhappy about that.
The change of state happens in the outdoor unit,so both lines in cooling mode will be below the dew point causing the cold beer can effect on a hot day,and in heat mode,you dont want them to cool on the way to the head!
Aren't most DIY mini-split kits pre-charged lines? Kinda prevents the handy homeowner from doing anything about the length (other than choosing a further / better location).
A few particles of shavings is nothing thats what the orphas is for plus you should be using a double flare if you want a perfect seal not a single flair like you used .
good enough for this neighborhood
Thanks for watching Steve !! The dog is warm. It's a garage, it ain't no Taj Mahal !!
@@TedCookHVAC IF THE DOG IS COLD YOU MIGHT BE SLEEPING ON THE COUCH
@@stevenlavimoniere He could get a sweater like Miss Molly's, but a lot bigger for his Lab.
lol that is funny steve
hahaha
As soon as you took the hose off and "put the cap on as quick as you could" you introduced moisture into the system, so much for the triple evac
Ted, one of the nicest homeowner DIY installs on TH-cam.
Nice change of pace Ted. Glad to see you doing one for the family
Thanks 👍
Love your videos man. Relatively new to HVAC but you’ve helped me out as far as coming across weird stuff in the field. Sending love from Missouri! Keep up the good work!
Wait untill u do a furnace in a closet and every screw is in the backwall....and they all diff types of screws...
Thanks for watching !! I really appreciate the support !!
👍Nice install. When I was in the field I had a nice Imperial brand flaring tool. I was taught to always double flare my lines so that’s how I did it.
Nice system.
13:26 RIP Headphone users
Drive pins are bomb and do great i was taught to remove them you drill out the center then pull them out. Made me a believer and user used them lots.
I had a split unit installed, and the tech cut off all of the factory flares. I was impressed!
Shark bite nation
The factory flares are only there to hold the nuts on the lineset! Not to mention,you are to use the nuts that come on the unit,not the ones on the lineset!
i have the RIDGID 458 flare 20 years now with thousands ac installs never had a leak , excellent tool
Im from the UK and during my apprenticeship I must've installed hundreds of these split systems. Mitsubishi is definitely up there as one of the best performing and versatile units.
First grinder I ever had was a Dremel. Sometimes, it's the best choice for a job. A cordless dremel is pretty darn handy. Get a pocket of fiber discs, and you can cut through just about anything, without too much damage. I got the 1 9/16 M18 drill for Fathers day. About to fire it up this weekend. I got a Dewalt SDS Max to Plus adapter for it too. Hopefully I love it.
Ive been bing watching your videos after work. Love your pond my next project.
Great news Cowboy !! You did a great job on your Mini Split !
Ah fish... the best pets. Those are great looking ponds. And nice work on the mini split. I wish I could install on in my basement/den.
Southern folks have such NICE houses!
Swing test only works if the metal piece is symmetrical. If it weighs more on one side it won't be level.
Thanks for an awesome video Ted! Old school myself, but early on in my career learned the hard way to always ream the pipe before you flare! Did a lot of refrigeration in my day so a lot of driers and TXV’s were flared. Wish that tool was available back in the day, but oh well the small amount of flares I do today, I am ok with my old Imperial kit which includes swedging as well which I use more these days. Thanks again!
I'm going against this channel's ethos and installing one of these myself, but I'm doing everything Ted is doing here. I could think of no better person to show me how.
You're good man to keep your old dog warm. Good video. I learned a lot.
Nice and neat installation Ted,when my Daikin Split AC requires a service next year i may book you in to service it for me over in Australia, also my Brivis HP gas central heating unit, come on over for a holiday,and i'll show you around our Beautiful " Southern Highlands " of NSW ;)
Enjoyed this video alot of good information on how to install a minisplit the right way ! Good looking out your wife and the pets I can see that you really love 💓 them and care about them Ted!
I put my own mini plit in a few years ago, and had a problem with one of the factory flares. Problem was, I didn't notice it during installation, and it caused a lot of aggravation later.
I installed a 2 head system several years ago for a fellow that had bought several off eBay. Set the outside unit between 2 areas for the heads. I cut the lines off as short as reasonable. One was around 6 feet and the other closer to 8 feet. Started and ran just fine. Next day the owner called and said one was freezing up. When and checked it. Change was good and everything seemed to be ok. Called technical support, they said it needed at least 10 of line. Don’t remember the brand, some cheap Chinese units. Changed out the lines, longer worked ok for several years but other problems eventually took it out. Only time ever had to have at least 10 foot lines.
Silly question...aren't you supposed to put in a disconnect by the outdoor unit?
yeah I was wondering the same... thought that was "code"
Not on 120volt
I thought the same thing. Maybe because 115v or local codes? Even the no vacuum DIY linset mini splits seem to mandate this as requirement.
The Yellow Jacket 60278 makes flares as nice as the Navac tool. Another great thing about it, you don’t have to debur the inside of your tubing, it does it for you. I use a dab of nylog to lubricate the head and that captures any copper burs that come off. Then just wipe the head off between flares.
Great info video Ted. Have you had any luck with Tapcon Concrete screws? I use and love them from light to heavy duty installs. Just another idea for ya. Thanks for sharing.
We use drive bolts for medium to heavy duty,much better than Tapcons,look them up!
oh the poor old pooch deserves the luxury ... i just lost mine 2 weeks ago after 18 years ... when they are gone you wish you have have given them everything you could !
clearly the attachment isnt there... the dog lives in the garage. Only 1/2 a step up from living chained up to a dog house out back.
I've literally watched five mini split videos over the past few days. And here you are with one.
Just one correction, it was Captain Hector Barbossa that said it was more guidelines than actual rules.
You should give the Danfoss
FSA flare adapters a go. They can be brazed on the line set instead of having to bother with flaring. Another common practice here in europe is to cut the flares at the indoor unit and solder the lineset directly to it after swaging. (Maybe also because refrigrant r32 being used over here) final suggestions there are some knockouts on the indoor mounting plate so you could just use a level and manufacturer advice is to use the 5 screw holes close to the ‘hooks’ to prevent vibration and get the studiest mounting.
Nice install. I always release charge before I disconnect my gauges though, that way you don't accidentally suck moisture back into the system.
A really solid way to fasten into concrete is set up for expanding lead anchor then put a dab of epoxy in the hole before you put the lead anchor in. Lead anchors themselves are very weak but with epoxy bond into concrete or mortar they become very strong and are removable.
I put a Qtip partially into the line that I'm cutting and pull it out after the cut to pull out any shavings.
Would it not have been cheaper and more friendly to let the dog sleep in the house
Mine sleeps in the bed with us lol
a senior dog can be a bit tough to live with at night.
I personally prefer Tapcons to drive pins, but either will hold. Most of the time Tapcons will unscrew, but the heads may break off.
Are mini splits going to replace central AC?
I have set many Fujitsu units but now seeing your install I am converting to Mitsubishi!
Mitsubishi and Fuji is neck and neck,I switched to Fujitsu after doing Mitsubishi for more than 25 years! Both awsome units,the differences are mute,so either one!
You can still use the bottom connection on the junction box but it did'nt have the option for the lock ring but I see you want to use the ring so penetrated the side of the box. You know the box is no longer a UL listed product once you drilled into it now considered modified the flares I would blow with pressure it looks like theres more deburring shavings inside than originally. any way I like your videos keep up the good videos.
Just a quick question why didn’t you leave the gauges on there then release the charge. If you don’t you loose vacuum when you remove those hoses
Small units have very small charges,and these units are very resilliant! I have seen some really hacked up installs that were over 5 years old,confirmed by tge owner that no vacuum pump was used! Was told he purged the lines! But they ran flawlessly,maybe not efficiently,but they worked! I was amazed,myself!
Harbor freight wood splitter when do those go on sale ?
Oh great. A helicopter cat!
That’s what that is called. My helo cat freaks me out sometimes
Your attention to detail is really incomparable. I love watching your videos.
Overall, I think you have me sold on not trying to do this stuff yourself. Unfortunately you are not available where I live, so I use your videos as a guide. By seeing what everyone else does wrong and how you do it right.
Hey Ted, I just realized that I’m helicoptering over the Internet 😂
Does copper being so malleable make the flair being bad work even if it looks like crap?
When cutting tubing, if you stop tightening the cutter before you cut all the way through, you can snap the tube apart with your fingers. Leaves a much smaller inside burr. Of course it takes a little practice to know "when".
Is a mini split... for the DOG... And this is why I'm subscribed. More than the HVAC, is the love for the good ol' girl.
If you took the hose off before charging you lost the majority of your vacuum as it sucked in outside air removing the hose. I would recommend releasing the charge with the hose attached and under the vacuum so when you remove the hose it’s under positive pressure.
Nice job. I really enjoy your videos...I was wondering if you ever use Nylog (sp?)on flare joints to help seal and lube the fitting as you tighten them? Thanks
I do not.
Nylog is awsome,best $7 you can spend! And a tube will last for a long time!Give me your address,ill send you some.
Lowes sells the SPYDER BIT HOLE SAWS! They will blow your mind ,how well they work,conctete,brick,metal no hammer drill needed! Easily drill 3 inch hole! And they last pretty darn good!
i noticed a gas heater on the wall in the garage, why not use that to heat the garage?
Are you installing heat pumps a lot in your neck of the woods? Been thinking about getting one up here in Ohio.
The Cat aint silly, She can wait as long as it takes for the fish to arrive in the pond....
Thats a nice thing you did for your dog Ted...
Awesome video. I do the same thing triple vac. Thanks again
There was a sman in your garage tool area. I think I was the winner of!!! Lol
I hate to say this but I cut my flared fitting going to my indoor unit and cut off my indoor flares and braze them, that way I never have a refrigerant leak inside!!
5:52 thats such a cool Sporlan neon sign.
Hey Ted is that a Browning Golden Eagle CB base station I see sitting on that shelf @5:23? I'm jealous, that's one hell of a rig and worth a ton of money today! You should set up an antenna and get back on the air. Skip has been rolling like crazy lately! My call is 1530- Mr. Corvair in the Buckeye!
Water boils at 70° I believe at 30" mg so it won't freeze when you cut the vacuum pump unless you have a massive leak.
Disappointed I didn't get to hear that satisfying WHOOSH when you release the charge into the line set... but the rest of the install was fun to watch.
Cool outside setup!
My parents have the same unit in their bonus room. Issue is if you set the remote to say 84 it maintains 72 about ten degrees off. Installer is saying this is normal. Mitsubishi said they may need the remote thermostat. Is yours maintaining set temp? Too bad you are so far away they are in Conway sc would have them call you for service/opinion.
If the lineset hole is not properly insulated,the return air thermistor will sense outdoor air!
So what is the MINIMUM refrigerant line set footage, eight feet, as you said?
Lineset length is different for every unit,every book tells the minimums and maximums! I ready then every time,after a couple hundred install,i still read the book,tgey may have changed something!
Let me guess.... The cat's name is Jimmy?
Lizzy
well you got it close enough.
Shannon Knight HVAC best comment ever !!! 😆 😆 😆
Make us some fresh vids Shannon
If you used just one extra loop of the line set it would eliminate the vibration. They are mostly quiet anyway so I don't think you will ever have a problem with noise.
Couldn't you center punch the nail head and drill the head of the nail and the collar off for clean removal?
It didn't sound like that battery drill was a hammer drill when you was drilling in the brick for the drive pin holes those concrete bits burn out fast if you don't use a hammer drill
It's clay brick. Not concrete.
Diamondback linesets are the best!
Ever 4get 2 put the nut on be4 u flare.....dont lie...we all did it...
Still do! 10,000 flares later,heck i even do 2 in a row
Nice job, looks great.
Pro tip Ted,strip your wire,then get another bite and pull that little piece to the end and it will hold your strands together!
The diy units have pre vacuumed lines that’s why they can’t cut to length,they are sealed.
Nice mini split install
Thanks 👍 Cause I know you are the mini split king !!
That's what we put in our basement, and it does a great job cooling. We haven't had the heat on yet.
That’s right I use those Drive pins when I put plywood up for electrical panels can’t beat them you’re right
You went really DIY with this install. I can't believe you didn't install an electric disconnect.
He has a switch next to it
Justin Sundby , at 52:31 there is no switch there. Just a pigtail coming out of the junction box with no way to isolate the power to the system without shutting off the circuit at the electric panel.
Can you leave a link to the flaring tool?
Hanging by the center hole to level it only works if that hole is the center of mass. So, if one side has more holes punched in it then it will not work. My first experience with these was in a hotel room in Korea. It was mounted on an inside wall, between the room and the bathroom. The hotel bathrooms in Korea have a trough next to the tub, about 2 inches wide and sloped down with a drain at the end so any water splashed out of the tub goes onto that trough. The tub was opposite the wall with the mini-split. The condensate drain came down the inside of the wall and terminated with an open pipe sticking out of the wall in front of the stool. Cold condensate water ran across the tile floor right in front of the stool to the little trough next to the tub. I was not impressed.
HVAC student here... really enjoy watching and learning from your videos!
From Simpsonville, Sc as well. I worked for JL's last summer
Nice work ted but i just think it was too much work and very unnecessary to use those drive pins, regular anchors screws would've been just fine its not like those head units are very heavy
Nice job and video
Have a buddy with a fish pond up by his front door. Came home one day to find a bird fishing in his pond. Most of the Koi were gone. He was pretty unhappy about that.
Why do all mini splits have insulation on liquid and suction lines?
To keep them from sweating.
@@TedCookHVAC Why does typical 2-5 ton split system heat pump installations not have both lines covered as a requirement?
The change of state happens in the outdoor unit,so both lines in cooling mode will be below the dew point causing the cold beer can effect on a hot day,and in heat mode,you dont want them to cool on the way to the head!
Have you ever tried to drill them out like you would with a heavy duty rivet?
Dang Tim you live on a busy road!
Aren't most DIY mini-split kits pre-charged lines? Kinda prevents the handy homeowner from doing anything about the length (other than choosing a further / better location).
Using the red wire for the neutral i just can't get past. Otherwise nice install.
No disconnect by the outside unit? Isn’t that code?
Ted wants it done right, he does it himself.
That cat is not stupid and will keep watching you just in case there is another steak to eat.
I want to have a great summer!
I've drilled out many of drive pins . Easy .
why cant you just braze them and dump the flares ?
Flaring is faster ,cleaner,and makes a suitable connection!These units do not utilize filter driers so you dont want even a smidge of carbon!
Did you put the trane sticker on it?
Mitsubishi partnered with Trane.
Did you double roll your flaring?
No.... only on transmission lines.
A few particles of shavings is nothing thats what the orphas is for plus you should be using a double flare if you want a perfect seal not a single flair like you used .
Never double flare copper,the nuts are designed for single flare on a male connection! They will indeed stand the test of time,wothout and issues!
I always use plumbers putty to seal outside hole
Low expanding foam is best!
Downtown Danny brown is my instructor. he's right next to me. funny you mentioned him
I am used to reptile breeders and independent contractors growing pony tails as a sign of independence.