I hate intermittent conditions I can not recreate. Then sometimes it’s just educated guesses. You cat is very sweet. I had one that sat in the chair the same way, just patiently waiting for a taste.
Checking gas valve WC for correct label setting can save a lot of head scratching. Most installers don’t take their manometer out of the truck after the start up of a new install.
Installed an 80,000 btu split system last week, on startup it ran for about 2 minutes and coded. It said the pressure switch was open. It was a .30 and the closest one we had was a .33 . Dang thing wouldn't work . It was the next morning before we could get another switch. Home owner was very understanding. But didn't really like it. Neither did I. We DID HAVE plenty of roll out switches, because like you said..... "They hardly ever go out." But sometimes they can.😎🇺🇸
Love the channel Ted - been binge watching for weeks…got the Trane XV20i installed at my place this past Friday - love it so far…Naples Florida weather even in February was a good break-in..
Great job Ted! I agree K type thermocouple right next to switch is best way to check, and gas pressure always seems to change when you put the cap back on... but... why... 😆
I noticed you have your kline screw driver with you, pull the bit out and that's the size you need for those large allen screws that hold the cover on. 😉
Another great video. Boy I wish you worked in my area. I was sold a Trane 95% 2 Stage Trane furnace . I am in my 3rd heating season and it still doesn't work as it is suppose to.I am on my 5th thermostat. Started with 2 XL 824s then tried 2 XL1050s and now a Aprilaire 8920W. From the start the 2nd stage wouldn't come on at all or would come on whos knows when. Anywhere from 30 mins to an hour or the Stage 1 would come on for a few mins then stage 2 for a few minutes and would continue like that. They tried the 1050s . The temp readings where way off and took up to 1 hour to correct itself. I was running and would lets say have a reading of 70 when house was at 76. Now with my Aprilaire Stage 2 never comes on. The tech says it is not the furnace but has to be the thermostats. I am at witts end on where to go from here. I am thanking about calling another Trane dealer and ask for a second opinion.
If it is a noncommunicating furnace, you may try using a single stage thermostat and jumping W1 and W2 and the furnace board. That way the board controls the staging instead of the thermostat. You could do that with the old Trane XV95 furnaces, but not sure about the new S9 series furnaces.
@@Kman-hw9pf I think that was done when the first 1050 was installed but that was when the temps were way off. I kinda thought that was a work around when the thermostats weren't doing their job. Are the Trane thermostat that crappy?
I’m surprised that you don’t know why the burner drain is to be piped like that but happy that you did follow direction! You do realize the unit provides a trap at the burner drain collection point. Double trap is a no-no.
@@TedCookHVAC so if I’m correct, when changing out a defective board, all of the blower speeds, etc are maintained via the module so it’s basically plug and play?
Your cat more behaved than mine! Like videos. You have lots of bugs? Crawl spaces in video seem to have more extras in the camera than I see in Oregon. Keep up the good work!
I got lucky one day, when I had the same issue with a POS Tappan 90%. On single pipe 90% units I stared to run the unit with the door on and watch the flames from the air intake. For some reason every so often I find one that is seems to be starving for air and starts rolling out.
It's a rollout overheat code, right? Is there a dead bird the exhaust vent pipe? Air pressure diff from in/out pipe location (must be at spec'd elevations*/locations?); where is the combustion air intake on that system and shouldn't it also be outside? Is that it (the perforated cover on the far right side ~4' lower*); clean and open? Hmmm ??
Overheat should trip high limit switch and dead bird should cause pressure switch failure. Rollout trips when flames roll back out of the burners into the furnace compartment.
I couldn't agree more. Worse thing I did was buy the 2 stage. Mine quit middle of winter ,couldn't go get other estimates so I asked the rep what he had which was the 2 stage. It cost more and has given me fits ever since. Just a few months ago the board went out. Never ever buy a 2 stage furnace. No more a cost saver than a single stage. It does even out heat in your home but that is about it.
There's available a ¼" thumbwheel ratchet that's about the size of two silver dollars stacked together. Would have probably fitted into the cramped space (above the roll-out switch) that was shown in the video. Search for " ¼" thumbwheel ratchet " on Amazon.
You need to take the pins all the way out or you gas pressures will be too high. Your measuring with resistance with the pins in. Try it you will see a difference.
@@gor312 no go and try it out. You will find the pressures to high. If you leave the pin in it gives a resistance. In the other gas valve types you take those completely off. Try it out you will see a difference.
Sorry to hear about Maggie. May she Rest In Peace. We just had our friend pass on last year and it really sucks. Remember the good times. Keep up the good work and videos.
I hate intermittent conditions I can not recreate. Then sometimes it’s just educated guesses. You cat is very sweet. I had one that sat in the chair the same way, just patiently waiting for a taste.
Another great video. Love all the info you throw into them. Has helped me alot since I got into the trade 4 years ago.
Glad to help
Smart and sophisticated as these controllers are it'd be nice if it logged what stage it was in when the rollout tripped..
Checking gas valve WC for correct label setting can save a lot of head scratching. Most installers don’t take their manometer out of the truck after the start up of a new install.
Installed an 80,000 btu split system last week, on startup it ran for about 2 minutes and coded. It said the pressure switch was open. It was a .30 and the closest one we had was a .33 . Dang thing wouldn't work . It was the next morning before we could get another switch. Home owner was very understanding. But didn't really like it. Neither did I. We DID HAVE plenty of roll out switches, because like you said..... "They hardly ever go out." But sometimes they can.😎🇺🇸
You can use the other side of that 8n1 to open those doors might have to take the bit out but it works
I'll never understand how people handle a dog CONSTANTLY barking inside of a house. That seems so miserable.
It really is
or outside!
Love the channel Ted - been binge watching for weeks…got the Trane XV20i installed at my place this past Friday - love it so far…Naples Florida weather even in February was a good break-in..
Great to hear!
Drives me crazy installers don't know reducers get installed vertically only.
The old 5/16 Allen got you right off the bat. Dang it! 😎👌
Ever been short of a 9/64 when you need one ??
Great job Ted! I agree K type thermocouple right next to switch is best way to check, and gas pressure always seems to change when you put the cap back on... but... why... 😆
I notice the same thing and would love to know why that happens.
On a trane, they change because you suppose to set high then low, if you do low then high it won’t be right
Hi, you may want to get yourself a Thumb Wheel Ratchet Wrench to have for those tight spaces. Keep up the great videos.
Thanks for the tip!
Like your trouble shooting and logic. Thanks
Ted,speaking from experience,my wife used to hate finding 1/4 inch screws,and pieces in my shirt pockets!
You have her trained, Ted! She knows to wait patiently cause she'll be rewarded!
I noticed you have your kline screw driver with you, pull the bit out and that's the size you need for those large allen screws that hold the cover on. 😉
Btw I wanted to also say thank you for your videos.
Beat me to it
Didn't know that thanks for the tip I open my bag everytime to get the allen key when I have the 7 in 1 in my pocket.
A Trane rep once told us to put a finger over the adjustment screw after adjusting, it will make a difference. That way you know it is correct.
Great video Ted, what a beautiful cat.
Greetings from Australia !
Another great video. Boy I wish you worked in my area. I was sold a Trane 95% 2 Stage Trane furnace . I am in my 3rd heating season and it still doesn't work as it is suppose to.I am on my 5th thermostat. Started with 2 XL 824s then tried 2 XL1050s and now a Aprilaire 8920W. From the start the 2nd stage wouldn't come on at all or would come on whos knows when. Anywhere from 30 mins to an hour or the Stage 1 would come on for a few mins then stage 2 for a few minutes and would continue like that. They tried the 1050s . The temp readings where way off and took up to 1 hour to correct itself. I was running and would lets say have a reading of 70 when house was at 76. Now with my Aprilaire Stage 2 never comes on. The tech says it is not the furnace but has to be the thermostats. I am at witts end on where to go from here. I am thanking about calling another Trane dealer and ask for a second opinion.
If it is a noncommunicating furnace, you may try using a single stage thermostat and jumping W1 and W2 and the furnace board. That way the board controls the staging instead of the thermostat. You could do that with the old Trane XV95 furnaces, but not sure about the new S9 series furnaces.
A 1050 will need a relay panel to work on a system that the 824 is compatible with.
@@TedCookHVAC Yea that was replaced at the time of the switch.
@@Kman-hw9pf I think that was done when the first 1050 was installed but that was when the temps were way off. I kinda thought that was a work around when the thermostats weren't doing their job. Are the Trane thermostat that crappy?
@@TedCookHVAC Why aren't the thermostats doing their job?
Hello from the great state of Michigan
Hello to Ted, from Ted.
Ted, If the reducer had been put on the top side of a 2" street ell on the vertical it might have been OK?
Great job as usual. And lol you aint seen my cats nothing is safe from them had 1 of them jump into the middle of my plate. Keep up the good work
I serviced a new furnace that kept tripping the limit. The gas pressure at the valve was 3.5, I lowered the pressure and everything was fine.
I’m surprised that you don’t know why the burner drain is to be piped like that but happy that you did follow direction! You do realize the unit provides a trap at the burner drain collection point. Double trap is a no-no.
Maybe got a bit drafty causing the flame to hit the roll out switch to trip.I see a large hole in cabinet
Ted, can you talk about what the Trane Personality Module does for their boards?
Storage of model/serial mainly for memory of size for blower settings etc....
@@TedCookHVAC so if I’m correct, when changing out a defective board, all of the blower speeds, etc are maintained via the module so it’s basically plug and play?
Your cat more behaved than mine! Like videos. You have lots of bugs? Crawl spaces in video seem to have more extras in the camera than I see in Oregon. Keep up the good work!
Doesn’t input gas “wc seem to be lower than the nameplate min pressure?
I wonder if the incoming gas pressure is too low when it hits high fire most manufacturers want 4.5 min
Ted, get yourself a dewalt right angle adapter and a short malco reversible bit. They help getting into tight spaces
I got lucky one day, when I had the same issue with a POS Tappan 90%. On single pipe 90% units I stared to run the unit with the door on and watch the flames from the air intake. For some reason every so often I find one that is seems to be starving for air and starts rolling out.
Damn ghost rollout calls, hate dealing with them. Happens a lot on Lennox at the start of the season due to spider webs
Yea... it stinks when there is no real issue to be found too.
So you don’t remove the screws on those gas ports for the manometer ports? It looked like you just cracked them open
Just curious if you had a call back? Thinking long run times overnight really getting that thing hot.
Air flow issues perhaps?
Why did they put the reducer in that spot instead of closer to the furnace
Sr. No screen over combustion air intake 🕳! Nice video
What are your thoughts about dogs barking?
Cat sitting there with her flannel on waiting for breakfast....ted kline makes a tool magnetizer
That dog drove me nuts. Aaaaaahhh
Did HVAC for 4 year's started my own automotive repair shop and miss HVAC definitely easy work compared to the automotive field.
If it’s so easy why don’t you just do Hvac working on cars sucks
Great video.
Thanks!
Great video, thanks !
Hey Ted..... Is that a rollout in your pocket or are you just glad to see me??? 😁😁😁😁😁😁
My cat is always trying to horn in on my meals.... Nice job!
It's a rollout overheat code, right? Is there a dead bird the exhaust vent pipe?
Air pressure diff from in/out pipe location (must be at spec'd elevations*/locations?);
where is the combustion air intake on that system and shouldn't it also be outside?
Is that it (the perforated cover on the far right side ~4' lower*); clean and open? Hmmm ??
Overheat should trip high limit switch and dead bird should cause pressure switch failure. Rollout trips when flames roll back out of the burners into the furnace compartment.
Great job Ted!
what temp dif you think it had ?
That's good looking cat.
Single stage is the way to go for the least temperamental issues. Just my thoughts.
I couldn't agree more. Worse thing I did was buy the 2 stage. Mine quit middle of winter ,couldn't go get other estimates so I asked the rep what he had which was the 2 stage. It cost more and has given me fits ever since. Just a few months ago the board went out. Never ever buy a 2 stage furnace. No more a cost saver than a single stage. It does even out heat in your home but that is about it.
There's available a ¼" thumbwheel ratchet that's about the size of two silver dollars stacked together. Would have probably fitted into the cramped space (above the roll-out switch) that was shown in the video. Search for " ¼" thumbwheel ratchet " on Amazon.
That’s a pretty cool bit of kit . Thanks!
That dog barked the whole damn time. What annoyance
I'd check the fresh air supply to the room and into the furnace.
Nice Kitty!
Your evil loking cat was just waiting till your back's turned to grab that bacon.
That dog can bark for days !!
Breakfast for dinner is the best
I would suspect a bad burner, or ignitor placement off.
My cat will not wait for bacon. Back and forth on my calf.
3" × 2" coupling shouldn't be horizontal. We know that.
He usually uses an offset reducer in that case, with the flat side down so water can't pool on one side of it.
excellent!!
The exhaust venting was NOT well thought out. It should be changed for proper drainage.
Some cars that I have worked on in the past were about that much aggrivation.
Thank you sir.
Hello sir
Dog bark his fool head off all damn day I guess.
Exactly what I was thinking
Hell, I thought it was my damn dog at first.
Very social cat😸
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I thought Ted only ate sushi for breakfast?
I rather eat dirt.
You need to take the pins all the way out or you gas pressures will be too high. Your measuring with resistance with the pins in. Try it you will see a difference.
It doesn't matter, as long as the connections are tight. If there's no gas flow, there is no pressure drop, either.
@@gor312 no go and try it out. You will find the pressures to high. If you leave the pin in it gives a resistance. In the other gas valve types you take those completely off. Try it out you will see a difference.
Can't stop a trance.
At night when it's cold the water in that reducer is freezing and expanding, chocking the exhaust. Fix it pronto.
Anyone else that did that install would’ve been a complete hack and would’ve been the worse install in the state of South Carolina.
Why in the world do you say that?
Shut that dog up, please!
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Coil is backwards.
No it is not.
That dog has barked the entire time you were there.so annoying.lol
Ted what ever happened with your dog? Did you take her to the vet? Had she had a stroke? Poor thing was just pitiful. Totally disoriented. :(
They had to put her down.... it was a stroke... she was over 14 years old. RIP Maggie.
Sorry to hear about Maggie. May she Rest In Peace. We just had our friend pass on last year and it really sucks. Remember the good times. Keep up the good work and videos.
Again, not prepared with enough tools. Old dogs just not gonna change.
The dogs barking. 😠