@@russian_spy2205 ka-52 has better armaments for ground battles, the ka-52 can bring 12 vhikers and 8 aam while the mi-28m can only bring 12 vhikers or 8 aam
Great video Muffin. This was enjoyable to watch. May I suggest all ground vs Coastal boats? The previous two naval vs ground engagements were a one sided battle due to the disparity of guns vs armor, however a battle between all ground vehicles and coastal vessels would be a much more even playing field and I suspect one that would favor the landlovers. Coastal vessels largely lack the tools needed to deal with heavily armored opponents, with the highest penning gun on a coastal vessel being the 85mm that fires BR-365 shells. Of course, they still have a volume of fire advantage so I expect to see a lot of broken tracks, barrels and some unlucky or lightly armored vehicles getting over pressured.
Maybe APKWS would have been a good option for a secondary weapons against biplanes. Also I think the strategy for killing these props would be to climb as high as possible in hover mode and let the turret do the work.
@@CircusJeanie2399 realy ka 52 could get 12 vikge that can kill any plane from few km and then u could go up and lock on on planes and thenn shoot them with cannons
yea as long as that heli stays low and the biplane has good cover that it wont get spotted cause IDK if any skill can bridge the gap if a KA50 or even any top tier heli when it spots your biplane at 5km+
Well to be fair helicopters were created to handle ground targets such as tanks, infantry, and light vehicles. Although they have air-air features it is only mediocre at best. Not a war thunder player btw.
Hey muffin, I have a idea for one of your next video, basically it’s a big air fight with modern jet vs tier 2-3 plane with the objectives of bombarding a base
well if you’re good you may be able to shoot down the air to air missiles with your own Atgm. quite fun without the ITO 90 or 2S6. those are really my only pet peeves
Please do a single Tiger 1 vs numerous Churchill Mk.III next. Basically the battle of Point 174 where the British were able to immobilize and capture Tiger 131.
But that battle would we way too unfair agaunst the tiger wouldn't it? the point of these videos is to put vehicles who vastly outperform the others against lots of them to see how good they really are. This would be too unfair for the tiger 1 and would not be entertainging
@@felixdrews7222 Not at all. Tiger 1 wouldn't be at a disadvantage at all. It would be very evened out. The Tiger has speed, armor and pen while the Churchill has an adequate gun, slower speed, mediocre armor(against the Tiger's 8,8cm), but has a quick reload speed. The gun can only pen the Tiger at close range if the Tiger isn't angled.
Helicopters are easier to take down than you think. At short range, bi planes will have the advantage as they are faster than heli’s. At king range, heli’s have the advantage as they have missisles
I just started playing this. I've got the worst planes possible & there seems to be an over population of liberty taking b***ards on the server!! Where am I going wrong ? I know I'm missing something !! Usually a wing, but something more!!
Hey man...first of all YOUR VIDS ARE AMAZING...second, i suggest you to do a new series of vids... maybe its gonna be very interesting .....what do you think to make a team with players like "defyn, smigol, tims, etc" to play against random war thunder player's?
@@ThunderWithMuffin I don't think that will be fun to play normal games....i think its better to make custom battles vs ather players teams...maybe to make a discord server, so the players can take place with their teams
Personally, I'd like to request a match between modern jets vs modern helicopters, to see how much of a fight helicopters could put up against jet fighters, especially since helicopters have been getting a bit of a questionable reputation during Russia's ongoing war... er, "special military operation" against Ukraine. I might as well also request a matchup between WW2-era planes/jets vs modern helicopters, to see if turboprops would give these helis a harder time than the biplanes have.
nice vid my only gripe is that why are the heli players dont gain altitude? only one guy does it lol by going high biplanes will have way harder time getting to them since biplanes would need to stick near the ground to avoid AAM so sticking at 2km height would be a good strat ironically its the ka that sat on that height is the 1st one to go lol although if multiple heli was in that height especially apache then they could survive it much more since apache's gun is more flexible than the KA's and all rounds are HEAT giving it a better chance of busting the plane in 1 hit
War Thunder is a beast of a game. This was alot if fun to watch 👏 I have War Thunder Mobile but I wish there was a way to just play air battles as tanks and ships just don't do it for me at moment lol
@@DecidedlyNinja The American Apaches have Fox-2s, but I don't know that they used them. I think the only AAM that helis have that isn't IR guided are the Starstreaks on the British Apaches. But then again most of these missile kills were AGM, I think the Ka-52 in the first round got one with his AAMs.
The Ka-50 Pilot wasn't good at all. They had 12 vikhirs. He could launch each every 5 seconds continuesly without waiting 1 by 1 and they would be all gone by the 8km guaranteed range of the vikhir.
it was a nice video but the first round clearly had an incompetent pilot.. tbh there were a lot of mistakes, but at least he learned them in a very embarrassing way
tsk, tsk... amateurs.... In the old days of Heli event battles, I used to kill numerous Ka-50 in a japanese huey. hueys are not faster than biplanes at all. Dodging missiles becomes easier with practice.
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This was very fun to be a part of, although I only killed 4 out of 20 biplanes. I thought they would take a lot longer to get to me lol.
I have war thunder but it's laggy on my PlayStation
Why ka-52 and not mi-28nm? 28 have turreted 30 mil and a lot of armor
@@russian_spy2205 ka-52 has better armaments for ground battles, the ka-52 can bring 12 vhikers and 8 aam while the mi-28m can only bring 12 vhikers or 8 aam
@@historicalkimjonas yes for grb, but against shit ton of biplanes mi-28 is better
@@russian_spy2205 thats why i got the ka-52. and yeah, the mi-28 is a lot better for tons of planes, but i don't have the mi-28
Was a pleasure to take part in one of your videos. Even tho not everything went as planned it was still a joy!
Great video Muffin. This was enjoyable to watch.
May I suggest all ground vs Coastal boats? The previous two naval vs ground engagements were a one sided battle due to the disparity of guns vs armor, however a battle between all ground vehicles and coastal vessels would be a much more even playing field and I suspect one that would favor the landlovers. Coastal vessels largely lack the tools needed to deal with heavily armored opponents, with the highest penning gun on a coastal vessel being the 85mm that fires BR-365 shells. Of course, they still have a volume of fire advantage so I expect to see a lot of broken tracks, barrels and some unlucky or lightly armored vehicles getting over pressured.
New challenge: Have top tier players not rely on homing missiles. Trust me, it'll be very hard.
lol not me. i like to use guns when warranted.
But top tier players had to go through thousands of gun fights to actually get to top tier... unless they farmed with CAS/Premium/Bombers.
@@Dwight511 I feel like over half the people just picked bombers, bombed the enemy base thousands of times and got top tier like that lol
Bombers are bad@@eVill420
Maybe APKWS would have been a good option for a secondary weapons against biplanes. Also I think the strategy for killing these props would be to climb as high as possible in hover mode and let the turret do the work.
given a good operator, a single biplane can kill any helicopter
good joke, now imagine with a good pilot in the heli, not like this :p
Until it gets shot down by an air to air missile. Or in real life shot down from 5 miles out by the cannon
If it ever gets to engagement distance, sure, maybe, but only if the helicopter pilot is completely new and has just learned the basics of flight.
@@CircusJeanie2399 realy ka 52 could get 12 vikge that can kill any plane from few km and then u could go up and lock on on planes and thenn shoot them with cannons
yea as long as that heli stays low and the biplane has good cover that it wont get spotted
cause IDK if any skill can bridge the gap if a KA50 or even any top tier heli when it spots your biplane at 5km+
Well to be fair helicopters were created to handle ground targets such as tanks, infantry, and light vehicles. Although they have air-air features it is only mediocre at best. Not a war thunder player btw.
Hey muffin, I have a idea for one of your next video, basically it’s a big air fight with modern jet vs tier 2-3 plane with the objectives of bombarding a base
Never had much hope for the Helis sometimes I’ll bring a biplane with 10-50kg bombs as a joke and kill some helis along the way
well if you’re good you may be able to shoot down the air to air missiles with your own Atgm.
quite fun without the ITO 90 or 2S6. those are really my only pet peeves
Please do a single Tiger 1 vs numerous Churchill Mk.III next. Basically the battle of Point 174 where the British were able to immobilize and capture Tiger 131.
But that battle would we way too unfair agaunst the tiger wouldn't it? the point of these videos is to put vehicles who vastly outperform the others against lots of them to see how good they really are. This would be too unfair for the tiger 1 and would not be entertainging
@@felixdrews7222 Not at all. Tiger 1 wouldn't be at a disadvantage at all. It would be very evened out. The Tiger has speed, armor and pen while the Churchill has an adequate gun, slower speed, mediocre armor(against the Tiger's 8,8cm), but has a quick reload speed. The gun can only pen the Tiger at close range if the Tiger isn't angled.
Jokes on you the ultimate helicopter even gaijin fears is the Ki-10 IIC
I honestly thought the KA-52 would get a lot more kills in the first round 😂
Another banger !
10:20 started to give me black hawk down vibes
Helicopters are easier to take down than you think. At short range, bi planes will have the advantage as they are faster than heli’s. At king range, heli’s have the advantage as they have missisles
Props are great heli killers in combined arms battles
Props to the man who *dodged* two missiles and crash-landed
I would watch an anime about time travellers in modern assault helicopters into WW1 time.
I think the Chinese heils are the best for air
It was very fun to participate in this event and to help entertain others.
The video outcome was great!
Thanks Muffin for making such a great job.
When I saw him try to hit him with an AGM, I was like "Dude, you can't hit that" turns out I was wrong.
why do I feel like the jittering images were my replays xD
I just started playing this.
I've got the worst planes possible & there seems to be an over population of liberty taking b***ards on the server!!
Where am I going wrong ?
I know I'm missing something !!
Usually a wing, but something more!!
The ec 665 uht would be disgusting for this challenge.
Don't most of those bi-planes shoot 7.62? I know Apaches can obsorb up to .50cal. So I cal bs.
Isn't that only from below?
@@sting2death2 ka52 can bounce 30mm ap shells from 50 meters
2:49 partimctamints
Please use t34 85 vs k2 black panther ?
Hey man...first of all YOUR VIDS ARE AMAZING...second, i suggest you to do a new series of vids... maybe its gonna be very interesting .....what do you think to make a team with players like "defyn, smigol, tims, etc" to play against random war thunder player's?
Like all together on a team fighting normal players?
@@ThunderWithMuffin I don't think that will be fun to play normal games....i think its better to make custom battles vs ather players teams...maybe to make a discord server, so the players can take place with their teams
Wished in the first round he took advantage of the buildings for cover.
Floating target war
Next up: Can 30 biplanes take out 4 s-400 systems
KA-52 cant attack backwards but apaches can
conclusion: a 1000000$ helicopter an get taken out by a 1000$ biplane
Should have gone to the city. To hide and use it to his advantage
How about the ultimate boat tank face off, the Kai-chi versus the LVT.
I think it would be more epic if the stages and battles were at night
Pushed up to 7.0s a week or so ago and have flown helis a few times
Personally, I'd like to request a match between modern jets vs modern helicopters, to see how much of a fight helicopters could put up against jet fighters, especially since helicopters have been getting a bit of a questionable reputation during Russia's ongoing war... er, "special military operation" against Ukraine.
I might as well also request a matchup between WW2-era planes/jets vs modern helicopters, to see if turboprops would give these helis a harder time than the biplanes have.
I would love to see how many apaches it takes to kill a ka52
Apparently just a ukranian with a mannpad can easily. Apache got this.
The Apache would be toast before it even set sights on the Alligator.
Just take the British Apache and use the Mach 4 Starstreak missiles. If it gets within 7 km the Ka is toast
@@SuchDoge4242 Multiple Ukrainians with lots of Manpads*
3 Z19Es would get rid off 20 planes.
All respect to pilot, but i think that the only pilot that should fly the helicopter is Bruce Leeroy
nice vid my only gripe is that why are the heli players dont gain altitude?
only one guy does it lol
by going high biplanes will have way harder time getting to them since biplanes would need to stick near the ground to avoid AAM so sticking at 2km height would be a good strat
ironically its the ka that sat on that height is the 1st one to go lol
although if multiple heli was in that height especially apache then they could survive it much more since apache's gun is more flexible than the KA's and all rounds are HEAT giving it a better chance of busting the plane in 1 hit
Thanks and good point
War Thunder is a beast of a game. This was alot if fun to watch 👏 I have War Thunder Mobile but I wish there was a way to just play air battles as tanks and ships just don't do it for me at moment lol
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If you climb and cut power, the Fox-2's don't actually track.
Were there any fox-2s in this video? I think it was just vikhrs and hellfires.
@@DecidedlyNinja The American Apaches have Fox-2s, but I don't know that they used them. I think the only AAM that helis have that isn't IR guided are the Starstreaks on the British Apaches. But then again most of these missile kills were AGM, I think the Ka-52 in the first round got one with his AAMs.
You mean Sidewinders.
@@Thornbloom A sidewinder is a kind of fox-2.
Fox-1 = semi-active radar missile
Fox-2 = infrared missile
Fox-3 = active radar missile
I can't choose between them, I'm an aviation nut who would love flying either a jet or chopper if I was a pilot.
I love how the Intro is so Cinematic and all and then a random muffin Pops up, and to top it off, raid Shadow legends
Bro I would bring the Swedish biplanes
Yeah heli stabilizers or tank stabilizers are broken and have been broken for years in replays
Huge missed opportunity to have Bruce Leroy in the vid
2:46 to skip the bullshit sponsorship from Raid...
Yay another video!
do u even locked on those planes ?u could just lock then on and cannon does aiming for u
Z19 is most op
That looks fun ive killed a helo in a biplane by myself also it was easy
banzai time
Hi muffin!
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@@ThunderWithMuffin goodbye
Quite unrealistic. The 7, somewhat mm machine guns of 1930s planes are too weak and thus unable to penetrate the armour of the Ka-52.
Anything will break if you shoot it enough.
I clearly dont know why gaijin dont add its cockpit...it had a full detailed cockpit in gaijin only heli game AH64 air assault...
No you're just bad with the copter lol
The Ka-50 Pilot wasn't good at all. They had 12 vikhirs. He could launch each every 5 seconds continuesly without waiting 1 by 1 and they would be all gone by the 8km guaranteed range of the vikhir.
ye i call it BS vikhr are op and only bad heli pilot can lose
I 16 wr has found a challenge
it was a nice video but the first round clearly had an incompetent pilot.. tbh there were a lot of mistakes, but at least he learned them in a very embarrassing way
raid shadow legends is a bad pay to win game
apachee seems like it would do the best because it has like 200 degrees of horizontal gimbal
Please make modern helicopters vs WW2 bombers turrets only.
Pov South Korea vs North Korea
Do strummoser vs modern tanks
I hope this is the offficial game mode
If those helli Lost the pilot is damn stupid cause he Don't to use the BVR missiles.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Helis don’t have BVR missiles
Lol
Z19E: pathetic
Great video!
Would have loved to see a Lynx in the fight.
Do low ranked AAA vs an F-4e phantom
the biplane players aim like bots
Apache is very good for close up.
Can i be in one of your vids
Of course, join my discord to receive the announcements on when we do the events
EESTI!!!!
When is the next event muffin?
How to join discord
Link is in the video description
Yes
what is the map pls
First one was city and the second pradesh
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First
DEAD
based opinion but, AH64 is ugly asf, would prefer to see the Viper next time!!
tsk, tsk... amateurs.... In the old days of Heli event battles, I used to kill numerous Ka-50 in a japanese huey. hueys are not faster than biplanes at all. Dodging missiles becomes easier with practice.
Just a reminder that RAID: shadow legends is run by Plarium games, an Israeli gaming company. They should be boycotted.
bad, realy bad, its like a man vs a bunch of flys, yes you can kill some, but the oter whill alwais stung you
Is english ur first language? This is not meant in a bad way
What’s ur discord
Run your scripts through a grammar app, it'll help shorten and make more concise.