Book spoiler: even in the book, it is not clear how much goes on, but Kiku makes a point to walk back with Blackthorne to be seen with him, and she waits and salutes longer than she usually does, even for her best clients (Omi). Everybody is in awe at how good Blackthorne must have been to be seen off like a lover and not a client.
Main reason is obvious, Toranaga wants him to stay. Carrot and stick, the fact he could be killed at any moment due to a slight infraction in a foreign land if toranaga wants is the stick. But with the stick there must also be the carrot, and eventually hell forget all about england, particularly if hes in love with Mariko.
When Kiku moved to the side I was confused. Then I realized that when Anjin turned his head to listen to the translation, he could only see Mariko. As Kiku spoke, you could slowly no longer hear her and only hear Mariko's translation. Soon the words seemingly were coming only from Mariko... Perfection. Kiku knew exactly what she was doing
Yes, awesome scene. Kiku said to Mariko "A woman cannot look away when another suffers." The subtlety and poetry in the dialog of this series is mind blowing.
E6, Ladies of the Willow World, #ShogunFx was definitely the best one yet. Such a great telling of Mariko’s story. Such an incredible show. Amazing characters.
The setup of this scene is so brilliantly mind blowing 🤯, I mean there's #Kiku who's actually explaining, but it's translated through #Mariko for #Blackthorne, so that he can see only her. Hence the actual feelings of Mariko. Wow, that was trippy! 🥹😌🫠 #ShogunFX #SHOGUN
Toro knows there’s something between Mariko and Blackthorn that’s why he sent them to Willow World so if they are having Affair can be Covered by The brothel
I don't think Toranaga ever believed Mariko was ever going to dishonor herself. On second viewing I feel that this guy was right and Toranaga sent Mariko as "translator" because he wanted Blackthorn to associate Mariko with all the carnal words and actions that Kiku was speaking. Like he knew this would pull on Blackstone's heart, but Mariko's honor would keep it from ever coming to physical fruition. So Toranaga now has Blackstone forever entombed to a foreign land where he lost the deepest relationship he has ever known. Toranaga knows he has his man forever and so did Mariko
You got to give kiku her tens like she knows her craft, when she moved to sit next to mariko and the camera shifted accordingly Like she clocked the tea and went to work #SHOGUN
That scene was crazy and uncomfortable. I would think as a married woman it would be forbidden for her to be there. Buntaro will hear about it and that's probably one of the reasons he wants to kill Blackthorne.
Why would you entrust of your life to a prostitute? I mean, she could just spill that bean any time and have anjin and mariko dead. Personally, I think it's Toranaga's way of killing their relationship and confirm at the same time.
Please stop with the AI writing! I love the clips, but the constant duplication of paragraphs and the obvious mispronunciations of the narration make the clip almost unwatchable.
Toranaga's statement at the beginning of this video brought back something to me regarding Mariko in the original movie: For some reason unbeknownst to me, I got the sense that Mariko was or would be given the order to betray Blackthorn and kill him if something couldn't be resolved regarding him, his ship, and the Black ship. Of course, she couldn't do it, and I wouldn't be surprised if she sacrificed herself so that she wouldn't have to choose between Blackthorn and Toranaga. Consequently, when she died, it was either him or his ship and Toranaga chose the ship.
Shōgun eps 6 Ladies of the Willow World finally mann,this eps is full of character developtment and backstory i mean its good but i need to see some action 🤣
In the book a lot is left unsaid the pleasure is the writing is so clear and you are drawn in ,but not everything is explained in detail as to little children ,,this series has so strayed from the book from the episode where toronagas son tries to kill his half brother and dies, ,this series is its own Opus , I'm not really impressed, ,, SUPPORT UKRAINE FREE AND AT PEACE BEIR
Book spoiler: even in the book, it is not clear how much goes on, but Kiku makes a point to walk back with Blackthorne to be seen with him, and she waits and salutes longer than she usually does, even for her best clients (Omi). Everybody is in awe at how good Blackthorne must have been to be seen off like a lover and not a client.
Lady Kiku: “Tell him, please visit again. I will count the moments.”
Mariko *translates*: “She is honored.”
Subtle, Mariko 🤣 #Shogun
Shit got real when she stopped saying "She" and switched to "I"
I thought it was simple as
Blackthorne: I am not happy here, I want to leave!
Toranaga: Quick! get this man laid! He need some stress relief!
More like grab the man by the balls and his heart and mind will follow.🤣
Toranaga hopes that post-nut-clarity would clear his head, man wasn't thinking straight.
🤣🤣
Main reason is obvious, Toranaga wants him to stay. Carrot and stick, the fact he could be killed at any moment due to a slight infraction in a foreign land if toranaga wants is the stick. But with the stick there must also be the carrot, and eventually hell forget all about england, particularly if hes in love with Mariko.
When Kiku moved to the side I was confused. Then I realized that when Anjin turned his head to listen to the translation, he could only see Mariko.
As Kiku spoke, you could slowly no longer hear her and only hear Mariko's translation. Soon the words seemingly were coming only from Mariko...
Perfection. Kiku knew exactly what she was doing
Yes, awesome scene. Kiku said to Mariko "A woman cannot look away when another suffers." The subtlety and poetry in the dialog of this series is mind blowing.
Yes! I’m glad to see comments which also point out nuances like this 🥹💖
Kiku should change jobs and work as a clinical psychologist, lol
Kiku saw straight through it
E6, Ladies of the Willow World, #ShogunFx was definitely the best one yet. Such a great telling of Mariko’s story. Such an incredible show. Amazing characters.
Blackthorne gently touches her hand ✋ heart ❤ fluttering.
The setup of this scene is so brilliantly mind blowing 🤯, I mean there's #Kiku who's actually explaining, but it's translated through #Mariko for #Blackthorne, so that he can see only her. Hence the actual feelings of Mariko.
Wow, that was trippy! 🥹😌🫠
#ShogunFX #SHOGUN
Mariko is so beautiful her story is just a few to be told
I think Kiko is actually working for Toranaga and he is using Jonh's feelings for Mariko to keep him from leaving
reminded me of the bladerunner 2049 scene with joi
Toro knows there’s something between Mariko and Blackthorn that’s why he sent them to Willow World so if they are having Affair can be Covered by The brothel
I don't think Toranaga ever believed Mariko was ever going to dishonor herself. On second viewing I feel that this guy was right and Toranaga sent Mariko as "translator" because he wanted Blackthorn to associate Mariko with all the carnal words and actions that Kiku was speaking. Like he knew this would pull on Blackstone's heart, but Mariko's honor would keep it from ever coming to physical fruition. So Toranaga now has Blackstone forever entombed to a foreign land where he lost the deepest relationship he has ever known. Toranaga knows he has his man forever and so did Mariko
You got to give kiku her tens like she knows her craft, when she moved to sit next to mariko and the camera shifted accordingly
Like she clocked the tea and went to work
#SHOGUN
That scene was crazy and uncomfortable. I would think as a married woman it would be forbidden for her to be there. Buntaro will hear about it and that's probably one of the reasons he wants to kill Blackthorne.
Her allegiance to her liege lord, Toranaga, outweighs that to her brutal husband, or any husband. Both Mariko and Buntaro are in service to Toranaga.
Mariko to Blackthorne: “This is a great honor you have received. Lady Kiku is the most coveted courtesan in Izu. #Shogun
Drama best in 2024 shogun...
Dude please speak the name of these characters correctly you’ve no idea how horrible that chaffs my ears seriously🤦🏼😭😭😭😭😭
AI BS!
"boon-tuh-row" ☠️
Nothing worse than listening to a voice that cant pronounce the words!!
I really hope there’s a flashback to when Anjin was supposedly with the consort. Was he or was something else going on? Loved the episode.
Why would you entrust of your life to a prostitute? I mean, she could just spill that bean any time and have anjin and mariko dead. Personally, I think it's Toranaga's way of killing their relationship and confirm at the same time.
I will consider subscribing when that most annoying computer voice is replaced. In the meantime, I only watch with the audio off.
Real Housewives of Japan
Lmfao! 😂
AI prounounciation needs to be tuned shogun, mariko, Courtesan,.....
sake lol
Please stop with the AI writing! I love the clips, but the constant duplication of paragraphs and the obvious mispronunciations of the narration make the clip almost unwatchable.
To contact Mama-san. Men talk too much in bed.
Blackthorn is big in Asia.
A myth
Toranaga's statement at the beginning of this video brought back something to me regarding Mariko in the original movie:
For some reason unbeknownst to me, I got the sense that Mariko was or would be given the order to betray Blackthorn and kill him if something couldn't be resolved regarding him, his ship, and the Black ship.
Of course, she couldn't do it, and I wouldn't be surprised if she sacrificed herself so that she wouldn't have to choose between Blackthorn and Toranaga.
Consequently, when she died, it was either him or his ship and Toranaga chose the ship.
Shōgun eps 6 Ladies of the Willow World
finally mann,this eps is full of character developtment and backstory
i mean its good but i need to see some action 🤣
I cringe every time you mispronounce Mariko’s name. The accent is on the first syllable, not the second syllable.
In the book a lot is left unsaid the pleasure is the writing is so clear and you are drawn in ,but not everything is explained in detail as to little children ,,this series has so strayed from the book from the episode where toronagas son tries to kill his half brother and dies, ,this series is its own Opus , I'm not really impressed, ,, SUPPORT UKRAINE FREE AND AT PEACE BEIR
I have to agree. Your pronunciation of the Japanese names makes me cringe!
I wish you would pronounce her name correctly. It’s mare I Ko not ma reek ko
YOUR COMPUTER GENERATED REVIEW SUCKS LIKE THEY ALWAYS DO, REPEATS AND INCORRECT INFORMATION!