@@Creative3DP Try just room heater for drying. Set it some distance away with the inbuilt thermostat at a lower value and monitor filament temperature with some cheap temp+humidity display. I was able to lower humidity from 80%+ (West Bengal) to less than 40% very quickly (5min). It's possible to make it more efficient by putting inside enclosure and doing active on/off control.
what do you think the effect of processing the agriculture wire through a pullstrusion unit (like the people who make PET filament from bottles) would have on the final print? excellent vid thank you
I need more info about this Agricultural PET filament as I used the name and all and nothing comes up on the internet or Amazon in the USA! Please provide any information possible of producers and wholesalers as well as most in the USA and Europe do not have as good access to Indian products.
Pretty interesting. I had heard that moisture can have a permanent negative effect on filament, even when fully dried. I wonder if you ran it through a hot 1.75mm nozzle first, if it would re-melt, and thus revitalize the PET.
Part of the problem with using industrially recycled PET bottles is that they rarely, if ever, remove the labels or adhesive. It's all just ground up, washed, blended and then extruded. Good enough for tying off grapes but not good enough for the precision we want in 3d printing. It might be ok with a 1mm or 1.2mm nozzle but that's about it.
Like some of the others I tried looking this stuff up but was unable to find any in the States, what I did find were some calling it PET/polyester wire but those are two different things right? Also almost all were 2mm+. Did you do any more testing to see if this was worth it for maybe basic simple printing?
There is a latest video on the channel on post processing this filament and I would say it's doesn't worth the time cause the amount brittleness, filament breakage and nozzle clogs make it worthless. But you can still try
@@Creative3DP for the time being I'll take your word for it being not worth it. I just got into 3D printing so I don't exactly need mass kg of filament yet, and I've seen the processing bottles if I really want to play around with it. I'm in the States so not hard to get soda bottles to use from all the neighbors. I've been asking others if they have tried to do 3 smaller strands from the bottles for longer lengths and maybe multi colored, but not sure if the heating will work to to combine them well?
Well this is an interesting idea. Looked it up and saw there is a thicker wire then 1.75 available. I'm thinking, could we pulltrude such thicker wire into propper(ish) filament, perhaps it would help rid of inconsistent in the wire.
Leaving the heated bed on for hours, days, even weeks will not damage it. What do you think happens when you have a single print that takes 8 days to complete? Overall amazing video and huge thanks for the tip on agricultural PET
Hey brother i tried turning pet bottle into filament but i am facing a strange problem....filement get twisted ...did you face this problem I mean when strip goes into heater a twisted filament comes out continually it gets twisted again and again
As of now I'm not working on it because economically its making sense but the time you have to put and amount failure you've to face with every new extrusion that maked it unworthy for me to pursue
Can you share the contact information for the company? I have this on order from China but it's virgin PET and I'd like to try recycled material. I have a lot more ideas on this I'd like to collaborate with you on if you're interested. How is best to get in touch?
Ohh great idea. This should be tested! btw it would be great if the subtitles could be turned off. Not really needed and I would prefer to watch without them distracting me.
I don't know why my comment is getting deleted , great video bro , if possible you can try (nylon monofilament ) or ( nylon fishing line ) hard to get in North West india , you can get it online but mostly bulk ,cheap nylon filament alternative . Also your end result were great , I think heating it for longer period of time will give results similar to other filament .
You bought it and started printing without drying, it was who knows where , not in a vacuum sealed bag, of course there are going to be bubbles, lol , dry the filament and then do the testing.
@@sapuseven I don’t consider drying filament on the printbed a proper drying method, there is no air circulation, the filament get heated only on one side of it, besides the author lives in the India region which is veeeery wet overall, it’s hot and wet there all the time, even after drying it’s important to keep the filament in the relevant moisture proofed environment, the author does not do that, even the slightest half-drying on the printbed already contributed to a much better quality and less stringing, the results can be improved if he does the process better imho. Best way to measure is to have very precise weights, weight the spool, next weigh the same spool with the filament. Stephan from CNC kitchen proved that regardless of the method be it ultra high amount of silicone, or the vacuum, or the heated chamber, the highest result of them all is reached around the 5! day of drying, so again I see an opportunity to just keep drying actually. The author preoccupied with thr print bed getting damaged after 24 hours of being heated 🙄 that should not happen on a good printer, but alas - the solution is again do the drying the proper way with a specialized hardware or build that hardware himself, the supposed “easy” methods have their limit. Also as the filament is inconsistent and 100% contains impurities it’s important to use just a bigger nozzle, the biggest you may get for such recycled material, there are often included other plastic material with different properties in such , or even pieces of metal and glass, no wonder the nozzle got jammed. Also a higher temperature and more cooling may be necessary. The author did a great job, but still a lot that can be cranked up and dialed in, starting the drying process. But again this video is nice to go to show the hurdles of working with recycled materials. The best other comment actually was the advice to pull-trude the whole thing to give it more uniformity, so again things can be dialed even more. Wishing good luck and much inspiration to the author making new videos and investigating the process.
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You should definitely keep trying this to see if you can get good quality prints with it that would be amazing lol
That's the plan!
@@Creative3DP Try just room heater for drying. Set it some distance away with the inbuilt thermostat at a lower value and monitor filament temperature with some cheap temp+humidity display.
I was able to lower humidity from 80%+ (West Bengal) to less than 40% very quickly (5min).
It's possible to make it more efficient by putting inside enclosure and doing active on/off control.
what do you think the effect of processing the agriculture wire through a pullstrusion unit (like the people who make PET filament from bottles) would have on the final print? excellent vid thank you
I need more info about this Agricultural PET filament as I used the name and all and nothing comes up on the internet or Amazon in the USA! Please provide any information possible of producers and wholesalers as well as most in the USA and Europe do not have as good access to Indian products.
Look up polyester wire.
Pretty interesting. I had heard that moisture can have a permanent negative effect on filament, even when fully dried. I wonder if you ran it through a hot 1.75mm nozzle first, if it would re-melt, and thus revitalize the PET.
Part of the problem with using industrially recycled PET bottles is that they rarely, if ever, remove the labels or adhesive. It's all just ground up, washed, blended and then extruded. Good enough for tying off grapes but not good enough for the precision we want in 3d printing. It might be ok with a 1mm or 1.2mm nozzle but that's about it.
Looks good enough for functional prints, as long as I can get it in black. 90%+ off is hard to beat
you can dry in your oven
Like some of the others I tried looking this stuff up but was unable to find any in the States, what I did find were some calling it PET/polyester wire but those are two different things right? Also almost all were 2mm+.
Did you do any more testing to see if this was worth it for maybe basic simple printing?
There is a latest video on the channel on post processing this filament and I would say it's doesn't worth the time cause the amount brittleness, filament breakage and nozzle clogs make it worthless. But you can still try
@@Creative3DP for the time being I'll take your word for it being not worth it. I just got into 3D printing so I don't exactly need mass kg of filament yet, and I've seen the processing bottles if I really want to play around with it. I'm in the States so not hard to get soda bottles to use from all the neighbors.
I've been asking others if they have tried to do 3 smaller strands from the bottles for longer lengths and maybe multi colored, but not sure if the heating will work to to combine them well?
Well this is an interesting idea. Looked it up and saw there is a thicker wire then 1.75 available. I'm thinking, could we pulltrude such thicker wire into propper(ish) filament, perhaps it would help rid of inconsistent in the wire.
Well done, and thanks for sharing!
Try looking into PET packing straps that are 15mm and cutting them into 8mm strips to make into filament.
does it work well??
Bro try sending 2 ptf lines together in to hot end u use to make filament so it will make a 1 ptf filament and with 2mm good filament
Line trimming cable wonder if that would work 😊
this was a realllly good idea! Keep up the good work!
Thank you so much mate
Leaving the heated bed on for hours, days, even weeks will not damage it. What do you think happens when you have a single print that takes 8 days to complete? Overall amazing video and huge thanks for the tip on agricultural PET
Great point
When is the new video coming out , did you get the nylon monofilament ?
Probably today, no I have to still look into this
how would you deal with the fact that whilst pulling the PET filament from a plastic bottle being hollow resulting in underestrusion?
You just increase extrusion multiplication
Hey brother i tried turning pet bottle into filament but i am facing a strange problem....filement get twisted ...did you face this problem
I mean when strip goes into heater a twisted filament comes out continually it gets twisted again and again
Is it to do something with strip size?
Try virgin material agricultural pet wires, they are very very very good in terms of printing.
It costed me inr200/kg
Why can i not find this in the us?
Check on aliexpress or any other Chinese website it might be available there
Are you still working on the DIY filament maker?
As of now I'm not working on it because economically its making sense but the time you have to put and amount failure you've to face with every new extrusion that maked it unworthy for me to pursue
Can you share the contact information for the company? I have this on order from China but it's virgin PET and I'd like to try recycled material. I have a lot more ideas on this I'd like to collaborate with you on if you're interested. How is best to get in touch?
One of the supplier is ( agroasia ) .
Ohh great idea. This should be tested!
btw it would be great if the subtitles could be turned off. Not really needed and I would prefer to watch without them distracting me.
I don't know why my comment is getting deleted , great video bro , if possible you can try (nylon monofilament ) or ( nylon fishing line ) hard to get in North West india , you can get it online but mostly bulk ,cheap nylon filament alternative .
Also your end result were great , I think heating it for longer period of time will give results similar to other filament .
Volcano hotend might be useful in comparison to normal v6. And thanks for the suggestion will look into this wire too...
not work Bro this pet filament not melting
Keep the temperature at 260 then it will melt , also you need to upgrade your printer
Set the temperature at 260 and for better flow go with volcano hotend
Cool idea but that stuff is only available in India so doesn't apply to most people
I think it's available on aliexpress too
what a nice jop
I need pet wire sulti juit twine black cobra please send me whole sale distributor number pleeeese
If you have spare rice, you could potentially remove all the moisture by burying the filament in rice.
Passive drying methods are not as efficient as actively drying in a heated chamber, preferably a specialized one.
You bought it and started printing without drying, it was who knows where , not in a vacuum sealed bag, of course there are going to be bubbles, lol , dry the filament and then do the testing.
Did you even watch the video
@@sapuseven I don’t consider drying filament on the printbed a proper drying method, there is no air circulation, the filament get heated only on one side of it, besides the author lives in the India region which is veeeery wet overall, it’s hot and wet there all the time, even after drying it’s important to keep the filament in the relevant moisture proofed environment, the author does not do that, even the slightest half-drying on the printbed already contributed to a much better quality and less stringing, the results can be improved if he does the process better imho. Best way to measure is to have very precise weights, weight the spool, next weigh the same spool with the filament. Stephan from CNC kitchen proved that regardless of the method be it ultra high amount of silicone, or the vacuum, or the heated chamber, the highest result of them all is reached around the 5! day of drying, so again I see an opportunity to just keep drying actually. The author preoccupied with thr print bed getting damaged after 24 hours of being heated 🙄 that should not happen on a good printer, but alas - the solution is again do the drying the proper way with a specialized hardware or build that hardware himself, the supposed “easy” methods have their limit.
Also as the filament is inconsistent and 100% contains impurities it’s important to use just a bigger nozzle, the biggest you may get for such recycled material, there are often included other plastic material with different properties in such , or even pieces of metal and glass, no wonder the nozzle got jammed. Also a higher temperature and more cooling may be necessary.
The author did a great job, but still a lot that can be cranked up and dialed in, starting the drying process. But again this video is nice to go to show the hurdles of working with recycled materials.
The best other comment actually was the advice to pull-trude the whole thing to give it more uniformity, so again things can be dialed even more.
Wishing good luck and much inspiration to the author making new videos and investigating the process.
Now, brothers and sisters, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand.
By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance : that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,
~1. Corinthians 15:1-4
Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours:
~2. Peter 1:1
God bless you!
good vid
Thanks