The Definitive cEDH Winota Deck Tech and Mulligan Guide | Everything you need to to know to play!

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  • Hey TH-cam,
    Today's video is something long overdue on this channel. We have for you not only a deck tech but a mulligan guide for cEDH Winota.
    By the end of this video you will have all the tools in combination with prime examples of how to play this list in cEDH.
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  • @conlinskaar5952
    @conlinskaar5952 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    This deck is the best. I have been playing edh for 11 years and I never stepped foot into the competitive side of the format until I saw this list and how it plays. Now I’ve been playing cEDH for the better part of a year and I gotta say I’m hooked. This baby is pure gas, proactive, flexible, and best of all- hella fun. Congrats Ian, for brewing the choicest deck in the format.

    • @golgariguy
      @golgariguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I also started playing cEDH with this deck!

    • @dizzlegrizzle1919
      @dizzlegrizzle1919 ปีที่แล้ว

      cedh is still a snoozefest

  • @spencerworks
    @spencerworks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I cannot express how excited I am to build this as my first cedh deck. Thanks for all the work you've put into it Ian!

  • @kstandish42
    @kstandish42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ian’s been reading our comments on Twitter and is out to set the record straight!
    Don’t cut the kiki combo, ever.

  • @zacharyabsher3745
    @zacharyabsher3745 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I truly love that I got to live in the day and age where you can play an AGGRO deck who’s main plan seems to be non infinite combat damage(with infinite as a backup), at the HIGHEST level of competitive edh play

  • @neonron8812
    @neonron8812 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This deck got me into commander and this was amazing to see thought process behind mulligans. Super valuable. Thank you!

  • @samhparker
    @samhparker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is so dope Ian! Thanks for the resource, really appreciate the time you've put into making this list over the past year or so. When Winota came out the Boros fanboy in me knew she'd do broken stuff, little did I know she'd make it into the top tiers of the CEDH meta! I've been playing your list online for a while now and it slaps. Just made a $75 variation for an uber budget CEDH league we have at my college, and I'm looking forward to popping off with it there (albeit 1-2 turns slower, lol).

    • @munsulight721
      @munsulight721 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Winota even on a budget slaps. Unless they have board wipe it is so hard to stop her in a budget league

  • @geoffreygarfein9169
    @geoffreygarfein9169 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am an avid Winota player. Thanks for helping those that are just picking up the deck.

  • @Master_Spliff
    @Master_Spliff 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely love that I, Ian, come to TH-cam to find Winota tech for my own cEDH list and find the homie Ian over here with the fire list! Without a doubt my favorite deck. Thanks bro!

  • @wesleypederson5497
    @wesleypederson5497 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've recently been trying to learn Winota and your mulligan advice has been invaluable. Keep it up!

  • @jasons3734
    @jasons3734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not gonna lie; I think I am gonna use this video as the Gold Standard of how to do a Deck Tech. Thanks for all you do!

  • @jbs6614
    @jbs6614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my build is still in the casual/high powered tier and am slowly building towards this. been having fun playing it.

  • @ruthmuse
    @ruthmuse 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Baller video dude! Great to hear the lines and mulligan decisions explained in detail by the creator of the deck.

  • @HebrewHercules
    @HebrewHercules 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This deck has been my first ever cedh deck after over a decade of edh. And its so fun. Playing boros and winning with combat in cedh? Yes please! Amazing deck

  • @CTDMUDRUNNER
    @CTDMUDRUNNER 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Last week I decided to build Winota. Very excited for this!

  • @Bentohh
    @Bentohh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been thinking of building this deck for the last two weeks, was goldfishing all weekend and then you drop this. :D

  • @nzephier
    @nzephier ปีที่แล้ว

    I am a control player, so when I seen a boros deck was controlling via stax I was sold!

  • @ianross9475
    @ianross9475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Only posting this because I know you'll probably see it. Missing one of my favorite CEDH content creators and your in depth evaluation/spot on understanding of the format.
    From one Ian to another, you are missed.

    • @ComedIanMTG
      @ComedIanMTG  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll be back soon :)

  • @muhdafiq3329
    @muhdafiq3329 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i’ve just started a winota cedh build! am excited to try it out next week!

  • @Blueishten
    @Blueishten 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I thought this was another top 4 video and my first reaction was “dude wtf!”

  • @dragonrider7796
    @dragonrider7796 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, I watched the video you did on Playing with Power on underrated CMDRS. Gonna try and build a Yasharn Stax.

  • @justinveron698
    @justinveron698 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Ian , for a guide!

  • @miaouew
    @miaouew 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite card ever. I dont play EDH but I only play her busted boros deck in modern.

  • @jonaswilliams9755
    @jonaswilliams9755 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to think Winota was not a bad matchup for GW Sisay, especially because I could goldfish my combos out a turn or two faster, or I could wreck the deck with Elesh Norn. Then you all started playing Rick. Rick makes the deck play at a pace where it's a lot harder to stop. I also think that Winota has such a great mix of demanding interaction to stop other decks and needing interaction to be stopped. I often find that if I try to keep Winota in check with Elesh Norn, I kill stax pieces that I want in play against the other decks. It's a really fun and challenging matchup.

  • @nappinglion8889
    @nappinglion8889 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I literally have every single card for this deck (minus mox diamond because me no have enough $$$) but god d ay u mmmm, its beautiful once you turn 2 winota and get at least 1-2 triggers on her.

  • @seanmower3926
    @seanmower3926 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As far as greedier decks go I subbed out REB for jor kadeen to play along side rick and when that happens it’s absolutely nuts. I once blade historiated then triggered with PW and OT into Rick and jor and what a absolute beat down that next turn was.

  • @anthonywolf943
    @anthonywolf943 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do run the aggressive Winota. Other than Vandalblast and Wear-Tear the other one I played with was Shenanigans.

  • @munsulight721
    @munsulight721 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I add really good success with Cathar Commando in my meta and the "Avalanche Build". I love both build and had success in my local meta with both. I know you would never cut Kiki, but I would say it is meta dependant. Maybe once people are back on Cyc Rift and more Board Wipe, I will put the Kiki combo in but for now I personally dont need it. We still have a combo in the deck. It is a shame I cant get my hands on Rick. I have to go for a Replacement but none are as good as it

  • @shaggymoge
    @shaggymoge 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Currently building this deck and it’s so much fun to play! Please keep updating this deck!!

  • @Mandydeth
    @Mandydeth 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I've been playing Yisan for some time, but Winota really speaks to me. I like that it's relatively cheap to build compared to a lot of 4/5c lists. I'm going to be giving it a try soon.

  • @jacobleatherwood1957
    @jacobleatherwood1957 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Winota was the reason I had to add Orim's Chant to my Extus build...

  • @garrett6098
    @garrett6098 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super informative. Great video

  • @takeru1345
    @takeru1345 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thx Ian! Much appreciated!

  • @nickbaccala4315
    @nickbaccala4315 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really appreciate your help that you give back to the community on this deck and i love that you keep it up to date with the kamigawa lands! I'm not into cedh yet but i plan on getting into it with this deck. The only thing that i personally question about is this really a magus of the moon deck? We have quite a few utility lands ourselves with the the nexus creature lands, city of traitors gemstone mine cavern of souls etc...how many other cedh decks are out there that get shut down by magus? I was considering cutting it for an esper sentinel for more taxing and card draw. Thoughts?

  • @lpcurio
    @lpcurio 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the update!

  • @Cato-tz4ye
    @Cato-tz4ye ปีที่แล้ว

    Cut Zealous Conscripts for Village Bell ringer.
    1. If zealous conscripts enters the battlefield with winotas ability, he enters the battlefield triggering but you already declared attackers so village bell ringer is more viable in this term
    2. you can tutor it with imperial recruiter
    3. 2 mana less
    4. Better as a single card without kiki jikki

  • @duxd1452
    @duxd1452 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No Auratouched Mage + Breath of Fury combo? I've found that to be very strong in the deck. Very often Breath of Fury gives you enough extra Winota triggers that you find a Loyal Apprentice, Rionya or Mirage Phalanx and just combo out from there. It overlaps and layers beautifully with the Combat Celebrant combos and often leads into them. Auratouched mage is basically a human 1-card win con if you have any kind of board presence. And it's quite an elegant 2-card package compared to the slightly clunky Kiki package. Have you tested this combo?

  • @jaredlyle6497
    @jaredlyle6497 ปีที่แล้ว

    its wild just how different this deck has changed just from this video. touch the Spirit Realm, Skrelc, Defector Mite, Phoenix Chick, Myr Convert, Soulless Jailer archivist of oghma and professional face breaker. I wonder what 2023 will bring the best girl.

    • @ComedIanMTG
      @ComedIanMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Looking at an updated one soon, whenever there is a lull in tournaments

  • @jerzyhansen4199
    @jerzyhansen4199 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you done an updated Kroxa deck tech? That would be tighyyyyt. Thanks!

  • @borkman5576
    @borkman5576 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm probably going to cut Splintertwin for Gorilla Shaman or Solitude honestly. I'm on the same mindset with 'Twin.

  • @idenpropovad1034
    @idenpropovad1034 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about rup apart as a removal spell? It requires both red white instead of abrades colorless red but it can hit enchantments that stop the swing

    • @ComedIanMTG
      @ComedIanMTG  ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorcery speed makes me very low on it tbh

  • @michaeldlynch
    @michaeldlynch 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excited to see my wife play this deck!

    • @ComedIanMTG
      @ComedIanMTG  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hell yeah bud!

    • @michaeldlynch
      @michaeldlynch 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ComedIanMTG she played it tonight and thought it was fun. She’s excited to play it again.

  • @dakotalamoreaux2602
    @dakotalamoreaux2602 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would this deck still be strong today in 2023? Would love to make it.

  • @Spiher
    @Spiher 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you help me understand the Gilded Drake interaction?

  • @spencerworks
    @spencerworks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you think there could be any room for Armageddon / Ravages of War in the deck? Or do you feel it doesn't make much sense?

    • @ComedIanMTG
      @ComedIanMTG  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It really doesn't do what we're trying to do. Mana denial isn't our game parity breaking is

  • @blinky042002
    @blinky042002 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would love to see an updated primer for Winota. Feel like there has been some big changes

  • @henrivalencia21
    @henrivalencia21 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    someone gilded drake my winota and i laugh out loud like a villain playing Rionya on my turn

  • @samhparker
    @samhparker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Second comment on here, but what do you think of Rip Apart as a second copy of abrade? I feel like it makes the cut over one of the blast cards just due to its versatility.

    • @munsulight721
      @munsulight721 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rip Apart sorcery speed hurts like hell

    • @samhparker
      @samhparker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@munsulight721 I just find it can be really annoying if you're locked out due to a hate piece or a drannith magistrate, and it can deal with pretty much anything blocking your game plan. In those situations, anything is better than just sitting there.

    • @munsulight721
      @munsulight721 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@samhparker I 100% agree on your statement but I did try Rip Apart before and it Just felt underwhelming. Maybe it Will be good enough in your testing. . I wanted to love the card

    • @ComedIanMTG
      @ComedIanMTG  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The blasts are definitely lower than they have been historically. I'd look at other options before a sorcery speed spell

  • @ThatWanderingDude
    @ThatWanderingDude 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I keep losing to creature based wincons like marwyn's infinite e-wit loops and kriik's fast black ooze combo around t3. How much would cursed totem hurt this deck? I'm considering it because of how many creature wincons are in my meta. Should also mention the marwyn I face aggressively mulligans for ouphe just for me.

    • @ComedIanMTG
      @ComedIanMTG  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think totem would be extremely tough tbh. I'd look into linvala before totem

    • @ThatWanderingDude
      @ThatWanderingDude ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ComedIanMTG Thalia heretic cathar (3c thalia) actually helped a lot with my problem, tried linvala but she hasn't come up in my hands yet and I can't flip her with winota.

  • @donezze
    @donezze ปีที่แล้ว

    🥇

  • @koanos2448
    @koanos2448 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    25:34 You mean Ragavan right?

  • @nierlluc4705
    @nierlluc4705 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ian, between Winota and Sigarda, who's the better stax commander? I feel like Winota is way more explosive but Sigarda seems really resilient.

    • @ComedIanMTG
      @ComedIanMTG  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's Winota 100%. Winota decks have Top 4'd the past 4-5 cEDH events and Sigarda has never even reached a top 4 in a public tournament. Winota also cheats card advantage and mana advantage better than any commander previously only being limited by her colors.

  • @iAMtunaFISH
    @iAMtunaFISH 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd love to try this deck out but I have awful luck lucksack-ing into top decks. Even if it's 3 Winota triggers, I'd still whiff.

    • @ComedIanMTG
      @ComedIanMTG  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's definitely not a luck thing. There are hard numbers that go behind the chances. I have statistically some pretty poor luck and the deck performs wonderfully for me

  • @henrivalencia21
    @henrivalencia21 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    is it possible to build this without the expensive artifacts? or creatures will also be changed?

    • @ComedIanMTG
      @ComedIanMTG  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's definitely possible but I'd prioritize the fast mana for pickups

    • @henrivalencia21
      @henrivalencia21 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ComedIanMTG I'm slowly building this but for now, I'm excluding the expensive artifacts, lands and creatures. It's slow but I'm having a lot of fun with it. Thank you for this.
      Right now Im only missing Ragavan, Dockside, Esper, Ranger Capt and Solitude for the creatures. Any alternative recommendation for those?

  • @Winterhe4rt
    @Winterhe4rt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every cEDH deck tech ever: "Well we hope we draw into some lands with this hand..." xD /jk

  • @jimjam9080
    @jimjam9080 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a more budget option for City of Traitors and Mox diamond?

    • @ComedIanMTG
      @ComedIanMTG  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Crystal vein

    • @jimjam9080
      @jimjam9080 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ComedIanMTG thanks! I'm assuming then there isn't a good replacement for Mox diamond?

  • @josephyakhnin9118
    @josephyakhnin9118 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Winota is an amputee/Lost her arm? Had no clue.

  • @Guyguy86
    @Guyguy86 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    any updates with all the new possible additions!?

  • @boyka1337
    @boyka1337 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    23:17 am i missing something? Glowrider is just a cleric. not a human/cleric

    • @ComedIanMTG
      @ComedIanMTG  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's an old card that is a human. Types have been added to old cards you can see on gatherer or other sites updated typing

  • @Cryonicity
    @Cryonicity 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does Winota do versus other STAX decks

    • @nzephier
      @nzephier ปีที่แล้ว

      I forget who did it but some channel did an all winota duel haha

  • @cobblepott4169
    @cobblepott4169 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thoughts on Esper Sentinel?

    • @ComedIanMTG
      @ComedIanMTG  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Despite it being in my top cards in the format at the moment a list like this heavily prioritizes synergy and esper sentinel really doesn't give us anything we need.

  • @sir_quirkus7206
    @sir_quirkus7206 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    jesus. kiki really wants to b e in that first hand. seemed like every hand you tried kiki was in it

  • @Jdeel92
    @Jdeel92 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could someone hook me up with a budget friendly list ? Something to start with and work towards the actual list ?

  • @blatini609
    @blatini609 ปีที่แล้ว

    Has this deck list been updated?

  • @chaseladely2253
    @chaseladely2253 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    any thoughts on the new secret lair human

    • @ComedIanMTG
      @ComedIanMTG  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Doesn't really provide anything we need unfortunately

    • @chaseladely2253
      @chaseladely2253 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ComedIanMTG it just sounded like something that would be included because of the attack triggers but i get it

    • @takeru1345
      @takeru1345 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ComedIanMTG Totally agree. Was hoping he would bring more to the table. Sadly doesn't make the cut

  • @georgecenteno2779
    @georgecenteno2779 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You look like you make that face on your MySpace photos

  • @chaseladely2253
    @chaseladely2253 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love this deck always love pissing off the breech players

  • @jackstraw9635
    @jackstraw9635 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's not "maggus" of the moon, it's "may-Jus" of the moon. JS

  • @MisterAssasine
    @MisterAssasine 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please dont "zoom in" like this, make the website bigger - its all pixelated else.

  • @mattyjmania
    @mattyjmania ปีที่แล้ว

    I never understand why ppl have horrible background music in the video
    It’s annoying
    It takes away from your content
    It’s completely unnecessary
    This specific sound of what I guess might be music- is an annoying tingy mess. Sounds like someone is playing video game music into a tin can