Why you shouldn't buy CSLA Iron Curtain for ArmA 3
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 พ.ค. 2024
- man I was really hoping we'd get two bangers in a row, but my fears turned out correct. This cDLC really hurts the image of the creator program and the overall perception of ArmA 3. It's clear there needs to be a much stricter QA/quality requirement from Bohemia's end.
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That DLC genuinely looks like a on the lower side effort mod, absolutely not acceptable as a paid product
I agree. I won't buy this. It's ridiculous
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To quote several of the reviews I've read, you're better off just using CUP or RHS.
A dev replied to my comment on pcgamer about how they were going to include engine changes and optimisations. That was five years ago.
RHS is better then this. And it's a free mod made by volunteers!
"Being bullied by anime girls"
Zoran the bear is the best anime girl.
And a perfect one
The only anime girl
i love watching him play with his harem
Zoran actually wasn't there at the time. He went afk and Momo, Uzu, and Low somehow collectively decided without communicating that he was the 2ic and they should just start whining his name. It was adorable and hilarious at the same time.
As if there was any real competition.
Mods are worth more than lazy effort DLCs.
RHS is better then this. And it's a free mod made by volunteers!
@@augustokonrad3572 Even CUP is better, at least shit works and everything made sense even if the older assets look bad.
@@augustokonrad3572 i think RHS dev should have being choosen to port all arma 2 stuff into arma 3 ( not in multiple package)
@@Burner.Account.. CSLA has stuff ported from Arma 2 that looks better in CUP lmao
Yea, I honestly feel the only 4 DLCs actually worth paying for are Apex, Contact, GM, and SOGPF
That steal the car mission is a callback to one of Operation Flashpoints original missions, not that I'm defending it because that's fucking atrocious in a modern video game but that's probably what they were going for.
Yeah, I'd be fine with it if it was a hidden extra or like a little cheeky reference mission. The fact that it's listed as a 'singleplayer scenario' on the store page as a selling point is what makes me actually mad. The other missions were not amazingly better quality for reference, though.
It's kind of sad because I remember when CSLA was one of the highest quality mods for OFP and Arma, how far the mighty have fallen.
@@wildxkat it's not necessarily that they have fallen; rather, times have moved on.
@@wildxkat More like how the mighty have stagnated tbh. I replayed the ArmA II ČSLA mod very recently, and this DLC just feels like a forced, rushed port of it into ArmA III. Direct fire, stop and dismount, the textures... it's really familiar.
Some of the things like impact grenades and vz. 61 having identical firing sound when unsurpressed just feel like direct leftovers from Arma II's engine which nobody stopped to update.
That is classic scenario that was in flashpoint and was remade in arm2 as well and as a nod in arma 3. No Arma fan complaints about steal the car mission.
"i was enjoying a nice morning of being bullied by anime girls"
does Zoran classify as an anime girl? i say yes
Zoran is unironically Best Girl! I'd happily make Zoran my Waifu!
@@pieceofschmidtgamer
Zoran is indeed an excellent waifu.
He also makes one hell of a baby. It's scary as fuck when he does the baby noise..
He better at this point...
@@kevincass9917 Especially the evil baby laugh...
You really should be more committed to your goal of ‘i need to stop saying yes to zoran’
Soo.
You gave the DLC a look this morning.
You edited the video in the afternoon.
You uploaded it in the evening.
Commendable dedication to get the word out before people buy this driven only by excitement.
cheers bro
I bought it yesterday, tried it out, then kinda thought about the quality and what I was expecting and issued a refund request that was accepted about 2 hours later.
I will get my money back, but I won't get my dignity back.
@@nikyfgh nah, you didn't know what to expect. No dignity lost there.
@@nikyfgh you didnt TRULY get you'r money back tho, as Steam has it now and forever. too bad you cant get the money from the Steam wallet into an account again...
@@zerrierslizer1 Wut ? Earlier this year I refunded a game i didn't like and i got it the full sum back through Paypal. I do remember in the past that they only offered Steam Wallet Credit for refunds, in this case i even thought that i would only recieve steam wallet credit ( been a few years since i refunded anything ). They seemed to have changed that, at least here. Is this regional thing ?
This video in a nutshell:
-This is a vanilla sound
-Oh, that is nIce
-Oh, they ruined it, just as I did think its nice
-Why?
-That is dumb, and here is why.
-*Groans*
You missed "That's fucking funny/silly. I love it."
The lag you got in the pit is due to the way arma handles particle collisions for those types of rocks, basically, the rock hitboxes are so fucked that the particles have to do a bunch of collision logic at once causing a lot of slow down. You can purposefully cause it on any map by hovering a helicopter above those types of rocks so the dust kicked up by the rotors collides with the rocks.
Damn, that's not good...
The Brazil pit consumes all
The Cold War era DLCs has no jets because there's no fucking Cold War era jets avaliable for port from older Arma games.
Nah. This mod could have featured the A-10 on the US side, and the Su-25 and L-39 on the Czechoslovak side. Both were featured in earlier iterations of ČSLA.
They had the L-39 in Arma 2. The L-39 is probably one of the most iconic Czech jets.
nah they could've taken the stuff from arma 2, but as rimmy said, they bitched out when the Configure Pylons update came out lol
Me waiting for a Mig-17 and Mig-19
This sounds like a critique of rimmy, when it should really be a critique of Bohemia...
Fun fact: Rimmy recreated that first car mission in 30 minutes over on Twitch
Probably didn't help that he was pretty buzzed at the time.
@@DatCameraMON I'd be drunk too if I had to recreate some quick schlock on the fly.
@@artyomsaveli9681 Dude - the mission is supposed to be a nod on the OG OFP/Old school arma fans.
I remember me and my brother kept playing this mission when we were kids back in 2001. They're clearly aiming at us oldfags for the nostalgia factor.
@@gae_wead_dad_6914 then say so, don’t count it as a senario, call it a side mission
"Moke Grenade Whit" is something monke would say...
FIRE DA MOKE GRENADES WAAAARGH
mmmm ennemy fire at monke, monke put down whit moke
maxor time
Refuse First and Last letters, Eturn to MONK
@@ackbarreserve turn to mon
I *bet* the Burst mode on artillery is intended for AI; Arma AI have defined firemodes and firerates that they use, and are hidden from players - you can notice it when the AI fires full auto bursts that are always the same length, or sometimes when you mount an MG it'll fire in bursts until you press F. The Burst mode on the arty is probably to ensure that the AI doesn't only fire singe shells at targets - they probably just didn't hide the firemode from the players (which is literally a single line in a config entry)
I do recall the Arma 2 Grads had a 5x burst which I thought was neat since its a rocket arty
on the arty burst mode im not 100% but I feel like you can get a somewhat high rate of fire if you fire it straight forward(whit or whit out a incline).
there is no hidden firemodes for the just the AI, each weapon class has its own parameters such as burst length, dispersion and other multipliers which are effected externally to the config files like Ai skillset and if they are injured.
I would have thought it was so the AI could time multiple shells to impact at the same time.
Is it the trick where artillery fire at different angles so all rounds arrive at the same time?
Just to let everybody know this “DLC” had been in development for about a year now...
They had like a mini development hell
even longer bro! they have a website and they've been working on porting their a2 mod to a3 for years, except a year ago is when they decided to become a CDLC
@@chickenman9184 damn that's a long ass time
@@chickenman9184 Wtf that's sad I don't know why they would turn their a2 mod to a DLC. The quality just isn't there for a DLC
@@arts6821 exactly lol, guess they thought it was good enough. My reason on why I think BI greenlit it? it was czech.
Video Summery:
"This is Cool."
"This is Broken/Sucks"
Repeat. Often.
don't forget "AWW JUST WHEN I THOUGHT THIS IS COOL"
ah yes, the recoilless rifle that has so much recoil you slide backwards while prone
Monke brain no kno how work
Chad Mods: fully fleshed out cold war equipment with multiple forces
Virgin Paid DLC: this BS
The best DLC is prob the S.O.G Prairie fire, since it's models are beatiful and better thany any other mods textures
As much as I hate to say it, it is correct. The map is nice, but everything else is not worth the money.
"I'll try spinning, that's a good trick!"
- A cold war tank crew, probably
Simply bat away any incoming projectiles.
15:06 And here is where i would put my cold war era jet in.
IF I HAD ONE.
Seriously though, this pissed me off with prairie fire. That DLC was made by the same people who made UNSUNG, a mod with a shit ton of planes, and yet we only got one for the Americans and nothing for PAVN. They at least had a MiG for PAVN in the original UNSUNG mod. How am I supposed to use air to air missiles on the fucking air?
@@archangelapache2953 they are call air to AIR
@@archangelapache2953 Its not the exact same team, the mig is going to be added in the future, you can still use the unsung mod with SOG:PF and the CDLC is focussed around MACV SOG who called in plenty of phantoms but wasn't exactly dogfighting migs. SOG:PF is probably the best DLC made for Arma 3
@@archangelapache2953 as a pilot for my unit i agree, but main purpose of the F-4 in that DLC was CAS. There's always way more ground assets than air assets - and Russians (NVA) didn't really have a plane that could both do CAS (for that they had the Su-7) and AA (MiG-21).
"What do you think the Cold War was defined by!?"
Nukes. All of the nukes.
I'll buy the DLC when they produce a Killzone Mod
Of all the games I would expect Arma to get a Killzone mod before any other game...
Well, there is Scion Conflict on the workshop. It’s very killzone in feel to me.
You should check it out!
God that would be so fucking POG
Ah Killzone what a gem!
Hell the weapons and vehicle designs alone are so amazing they should be in more things.
You should be honored to be in the presence of the lord of the bolt action rifles who does not need our mortal hands to function
"BEHOLD THE GREATEST WAR MACHINE OF THE IMPERIUMS MIGHT! THE IMPERIAL BEYBLADE!"
BEYBLADE BEYBLADE LET IT RIP!
LETS FIGHT, AN EPIC BATTLE!
FACE OFF, AND SPIN THE METAL
NO TIME FOR COUNTDOWNS NO PLACE FOR BACKING DOWN
Baneblade beyblade
"Nice looking Mod there, It'd be a shame if anyone_" *drags from cigarette threateningly* "Charged for it."
You know that confused Mr. Krabs meme?
Rimmy in the first bit
the black hawks lag was because you were hitting the rockface. Arma doesnt like having to calculate wether you penetratet every single rock or not.
This is what happens when mod makers, instead of using a few big meshes, copy paste the same rock 350 times to line the hole, like for real it’s obvious and lazy as fuck as well as a monster on performance
"Rimmy it's what anime girls crave, it's got electrolytes" -Rimmy
I know it's completely off topic but the "moke grenade whit" reminds me of the amount of that I've seen with my short time with Ac Valhalla, it's absolutely laughable and shows modern companies lack of quality testing or effort.
If you want to play the steal a UAZ scenario just buy Arma Cold War Assault for $6 and play it with better sounding guns.
BANEBLADE
LET ME HIT
nice!
A WOODEN BANEBLADE
2:35 Man, if only the soldiers in WW1 could get through the barbed wire like that...
"Arma 3: Death Race is a Fustercluck" next vid Rimmy posts
6:38
What is worst with that boat is that since its a part of a DLC package, you need to buy it to drive it. Which in meaning, if you confuse that boat with the assault boat, you would get so confused when the game tells you to buy a DLC to drive a non-DLC vehicle.
"Why do you sound like cats?" Rimmy said as if he didnt wish for catgirls
Nice to know: some parts of the Autobahn in old West Germany are actually designed to be a make shift runway like in the DLC, if the actual airfields would have been destroyed in the cold war gone hot scenario.
would've been a perfect cdlc if the tanks took off when you spun them fast enough.
Lmfao
"moke grenade whit" - mmy Downu gam, 202
The fuck was that meant to mean?
@@funybirbman3813 Smoke Grenade White
This is exactly what I needed right now
I assumed this was just gonna be one of those vids where they show a mod is alittle glitchy and has a few small issues and then blow it way out of proportion but this is fucking ridiculous
the sound quality is like straight out of a 2010 flash game how did they fuck up so bad lol
Man, Czech DLCs are always bad in Arma. Anyone remember Army of the Czech Republic for Arma 2?
(Also I got this DLC for the Vehicles and the map, but that’s just me)
Oh don't even remind me of the A2 AČR DLC. Hell hath no fury like a Czech kid who just realized a DLC for his favourite FPS, dedicated to his national army, sucks balls.
I remember that DLC like it was yesterday, and by god it was hell
Only reason I bought this one is the m1008 cucv, which is a vehicle from the cold war that needs more representation
Army of czech republic was great DLC.
@@17MrLeon It really wasn't. The campaign was borderline unfinishable and generally not worth the effort, the uniforms looked worse than those the Czech forces wore in vanilla Operation Arrowhead (the weird yellow tint on desert vz95? Yuck), the rest of the scenarios was mostly a joke. I'm not saying it was absolute, complete garbage, most guns and vehicles were fun, but it was obviously the worst and least polished of the DLCs.
some other things too: abrams are literally made of plastic. One round from a t-72 and its over. T-72 is damn near indestructible though. In general the sound design of the mod is absolutely terrible as well
what makes you think the Abrams is so thickly armored? have you seen the inside of one? its armor is pretty thin, the roof armor alone is only 12.7mm thick, the turret sides are at the very most 200 mm thick and hull side is only 60 to 80 mm thick at the most, the reason why the Abrams switched to the 120mm gun was due to the fact the T72 and later T64 where impenetrable from frontal shots by the 105mm.
@@mitri5389 i get hull pens, especially on the plate above the driver and on the side, but frontal turret pens are happening regularly. The abrams was literally designed to have a very heavily armored turret, what with the chobham armor. The whole point of the abrams was to have a damn near indestructible turret essentially. And the m1 in the dlc is an m1a1, right? it would have the 120 mm. Iraq proved pretty well that the abrams could rip through t-72s. I might be wrong tho, it could have the 105 and therefore understandably wouldnt do too well.
The t-72 was very heavily armored for the time, but it shouldn't be shaking off 2-3 dragon atgms at like 50m from the side. It takes two abrams apfsds rounds to the side of the turret to disable the t-72, and thats just at close range. The stats def need some tweaking. I wouldnt put it past the devs to have not even double checked the stats cuz they imported so many assets from arma II and seemingly rushed this dlc out so fast. The whole dlc is just generally unfinished.
YO THEY ADDED WAR THUNDER TO ARMA
Ah, so it's RHS
tis but a joke you see
@@mitri5389 respond to him smartass
Imaging checking TH-cam to see your review in the first five seconds of Rimmy's video. That was daunting. Great video!
Abandon vanilla, return to moke grenade whit
"this sounds so weird. It's like the sound of coming from inside my head"
Lmao, like the finger gun from Dead Space, just Isaac going "Pew! Bang!"
Beyblade beyblade let it rip. Hentai, in every battle
The review we all waited for. Map does look really good even if it has the same feel as Livonia. Hopefully the CSLA devs will react from the backlash and add obviously missing assets like attack helos, m240s and SPGs for the USA faction and fix the issues with textures and sounds. Hopefully
1:19 The way you say “It reminds me of Valkyria Chronicles” made me expect a fucking flashback to Nico the child crusader
"Steal the Jeep"
Was one of the original Operation Flashpoint standalone missions.
I would say it was included as an attempt at an homage.
Right, but then counting it as one of the 9 new scenarios is a bit disingenuous.
@@tetsatou2815 Yep, make part of a larger mission or something like that.
Get started to seem like the original, then open up new objectives.
Something like that would've been cool.
9:12 Glad to see they added the Humvee from C&C Generals to the roster!
"I thought that Tank was decommissioned"
"It was sure its black as soot"
"Then what in the" *KABOOM*
Iirc, the T-72 had a manual turret, so imagine the crew cranking their hearts out to spin like that.
CRANK SLAVE, CRANK!
It honestly looks like they took a page out of EA's book and was testing our ability to just purchase crap and what our limit is.
An experiment gone wrong lol
When you spin the turret on a tank
"You spin me right round baby right round"
The MLRS did only have cluster rounds availiable at this time... it wasn't until later that the unitary and guided stuff was introduced. ALSO, IRL there was a significant dud rate for the individual bomblets. That was by design to create minefields as a secondary effect.... which is also why we don't use those rockets in the arsenal very often anymore... something something something warcrimes/geneva suggestions...
fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m26.htm
Rimmy, in case you somehow didn't knew it, DShK/ДШК has variable rate of fire. Both 600 and 1200 are options and technically you can switch between them by manually adjusting mechanism. 1200 RoF is called AA mode.
Yeah, but on a mounted platform for infantry engagement on the ground, they would be using a 600 rpm config. They only use the 1200 config on an AA platform where accuracy by volume of fire is the only viable option to hit a Fast-Mover without radar tracking.
Also i both love and hate how it is not only the second cDLC to not feature planes (and SOG only barely dodges that bullet), but this one actually has airfields, and really neat ones at that.
'Find a car' is the first mission in the first arma
When Rimmy is at the helm, the Speed of Truth can actually get pretty fast!
Well done helping people know just what their money may get them.
the tennis racket launcher hidden under the tank makes the quiet shoot sound make a lot of sense
stealth
"Getting bullied by anime girls" and then there's just zoran just chillin
Who thinks that RHS brings more to the game? :D
Because I do.
This is not about bringing more to the game. This is abiut brining CSLA
Hell yes, RHS, along side USAF, Firewall’s aircraft, and sooo much more,
Lol comparing RHS to the CDLCs is stupid. It’s way better to compare Iron Curtain to the SOG or the other one. RHS is SO MUCH BIGGER than any of the CDLCs. Hell, if it had a map included it would be bigger than Apex.
**personally** Western Sahara is the best- im not a fan of jungle combat although the time era is cool- but a decent sized flat desert map with modified vanilla vehicles to the point of actually having a use and not just a reskin is so cool to me. ive spent hours in extraction with different personal challenges and when playing with people who have the CDLC it has many more options for zues (with the different vehicles) have your own opinions but its one of my favourite DLC's and its relatively cheap!
I admit I read the thumbnail as Baneblade Tanks and got really excited for a moment
So..... Can someone explain to me how my lazy mod pack ended here as a paid DLC?
most likely because the main focus is czechslovakia, and Bohemia Int. are Czech.
V-Tubers: Remmyyyyy
Tommy: Back! Away with you! Get back, you fiends!
That intro is amazing. Perfection, even.
*makes a low grade mod*
"I am going to sell this!"
Hey Rimmy, I was curious: did you ever end up using the music from Wasteland 3 in one of your Arma operations?
That "mission" Steal a car was in original Operation Flashpoint. But it was on top of loooong campaign and bunch of different missions so it was kind of nice. This is pathetic
3:35 - Little fun fact: There is actually a part of the D1 highway specially hardened to be used as emergency runway in case of war in Czech Republic
That artillery gun turning whilst relaoding makes sense
On the Leopard 2 it lifts the barrel aswell
2:47 werfengenkgeregedengangles
this legit gives me the same vibes as someone putting old Operation flashpoint stuff back in the game. Also, Honda goldwing have 3 reverse gears so bikes can, in fact, go back (it weights 300kg and good luck pushing it out of a garage manually otherwise)
Wait, you have trouble pushing something that rolls?
@@brandondavis7777 The crawlers that weigh thousands of tons and carry spacecraft to their launch sites roll.
Do you have trouble pushing those?
1:35 I think TB is speaking through you Rimmy. You almost nail the voice.. I was literally expecting a menu critique.
Holy fuck I miss that guy..
That "Find the car" is literally lifted and shifted from the first Operation Flashpoint. It was a mission to get you familiarised with the controls and so on.
Man, I was looking forward to this so much. ČSLA studio has been around for decades, both the Operation Flashpoint and ArmA II iterations were bloody amazing. The fact they somehow managed to make a PAID mod comparable to or even worse than these two is incredibly disappointing.
Rimmy getting lovey-dovey by anime girls can make him stick with CDawgVA and Gigguk as being "Vtuber Magnets"
Botan collab when?
The self-firing M60 at 9:05 is a nice cameo by the same self-firing M-60 from the movie 'Maximum Overdrive'
That highway bit reminded me of the final mission for the soviets in world in conflict Soviet assault that could be a really good defense bit
This is why I didn’t want to buy it. I was fucking POSITIVE they wouldn’t include the jets.
What sucks is that CSLA was extremely good on Arma 2 and OFP. I was genuinely looking forward to their release for Arma 3
Indeed. Since OFP it was one of the "must have" mods.
The burst fire on the mortar and howitzer is probably meant to mean MRSI (multiple rounds simultaneous impact). Basically you change the firing arc for each round, so they arrive at target the same time.
I don't think, because MRSI wasn't a thing in the 80's where the DLC is settled
It isn't. Its likely just an AI firemode they forgot to disable.
The town square reminds me of Mellvere in Gallia and Einhemt, the city northeast of the Seigval Line.
I'm convinced the creators of the CSLA DLC just tried to break ArmA as much as possible
The runway-stip looks awfully like the World in Conflict map for the last russian map
I dunno where this map is supposed to be set, but in Germany at least, Gästhauses sometimes look like that.
Gästhause is kinda a weird all encompassing term. It can refer to like, a regular mom n pop restaurant or pub, a bed and breakfast, a small hotel with an attached restaurant (but you dont have to be staying there to eat there), a sort of air BNB style bed and breakfast where they're a restaurant and only got like one or two rooms to rent out, sometimes they lean more heavily towards the hotel/BNB stuff and then their restaurant just sorta has 2 or 3 things the chef feels like making that day, and sometimes its a restaurant where the family who run it also live there upstairs etc etc etc.
Like, it's such a weird term, literally every gästhause is different, some lean more towards the BnB stuff, some are basically just regular restaurants. It makes a little more sense if you look back in time historically, before all these other similar concepts kinda fell under the gästhause umbrella. So you know how like, when you're playing DnD (yeah, I know, f@$%in nerdy), and ya'll are role playing in a Tavern, and a ye olde timey tavern is basically just a bar that serves some food, usually whatever the hell the tavern owner feels like making, and they also run an inn where they basically rent out the bedrooms upstairs and also, the tavern owner maybe lives in the same building? Like, that weird combination isn't just a fantasy thing, that was HISTORICALLY a real thing in Germany, and that tradition has kinda lived on today... Though I get the impression it's slowly dying off in favor of traditional british/american style pure restaurants vs BnBs. But they all end up getting called a Gästhause anyway.
Point is, there's some parts of the world where you might live in your own pub, and there's some places still where pubs/restaurants have a room to rent out. So I dont really find that a weird concept. Similarly, in Japan, I've seen so many businesses have a second floor... And that second floor is just where the business owner lives.
Honestly, 9:30 reminds me more of that tech-aspirant from Death or Glory who strapped a flamer to her loader Sentinel; used her one 'dendrite to pull the trigger on it.
How in the actual fuck did you end up with the Dutch Beyblade Metal Fusion theme song? It's literally the version we got in the Netherlands.
How
Why
I'm so confused
Basically, the new tanks were made from the creator of the Helicopter-Tank gif
Holy crap, I never thought I'd get motion sickness from a game, but watching those tank turrets spin did it.
I remember there was a mission in Operation Flashpoint Cold War Crisis where you had to steal a UAZ car in a hostile village and that was it ! Glad to see games have evolved in 20 years ! :P
Rimmy do you have a life? I watched this live not even 6 hours ago
Do you mean is he a good content creator? If so then yes
Lmao
Well, this is the kind of thing that needs to get out very quickly. Reviews of paid products need to go up while people are still wondering about whether to buy or not.
I am praying to the tomboys that your video will get them to take the dlc down and fix it.
@Rimmy: This Highway-Airstrip is no bullshit. Highways in western germany had been planned as backup-airstrips in the cold war. The Motor-Stations were planned to be turned into air-force infrastructure. You can still recognize them, driving on german highways. If there comes a very long, straight part, without central reserve between lanes and removable guardrailing and strange arrangement of the motor-stations and distributor roads, you are driving on a cold-war airstrip.
Alone the Intro with the bablade Song it's just waking up memorys from Metal fusion
7:00 TANKS RIMMY!!! THE COLD WAR WAS ALL ABOUT TANKS!
The "dlcs" that bohemia are bringing us are litteraly just copy and paste ideas that modders have had and done since 2017... but somehow the devs have managed to cuck us with uhh less than ideal stuff thats paid for. But hey the map is pretty!
Well, tbf, this DLC is made "somebody else".
This DLC is made by the modders.
Rimmy I hope you read this lol. So some munitions for indirect fire are rocket powered to get greater speed and range. Although they just might have messed up the sound file for the mortar.
The Tank turret speed reminds me of the helicopter tank memes