i might be wrong but for the folks who don't get it: The White Lady is the Queen of Hallownest and mate to the Pale King. however, she has the uncontrollable desire to spread her seed. i think the Pale King used her seeds to create the Vessels, and when the White Lady found out about this, she hid in her gardens, ashamed. Herrah is not the Queen of Hallownest, she is the queen of Deepnest. one of the lore tablets in the Fungal Wastes (please correct me if i am wrong!) says that Deepnest once had a king, but he somehow died. the reason for why he died is unknown. when the Pale King wanted Herrah to be a seal, she didn't want to unless the Pale King would give her a child. Herrah and the Pale King then had a sexual relationship (White Lady even mentions a dalliance), resulting in the birth of Hornet. after that, Herrah was sealed away.
They didn't have a sexual relationship. They're two different bugs. I know people hate when others say this but I believe he used void to make a being out of both of them (Hornet) many say she's not void but that's my thought
They had sexual act as far as Hallownest citizens are concerned. Bear in mind that Herrah IS a bug (arachinid), but PK is more close to vertebrates than anything else, not to mention a fucking god by greek standards, so who knows what method they used. Anyways, Hornet is the result of this pact, and whoever Herrah was, she must have been pretty powerful in dream manipulation to be chosen, hence PK did not hesitate even though he obviously only has eyes for his queen. Not that Herrah liked him either, she just knew the value of his wyrm genes. And to be honest it was a pretty good decision. Hornet has since tasked herself with identifying and training a vessel that would bring hope to Hallownest, not to mention effectively keeping tomb thieves away. She is also skilled enough to help in keeping the Hollow Knight still and open a crack in its shell to allow entering its mind, not to mention that she has some kind of telepathic connection to it, being both half-siblings and HK not being totally empty (which adds to the fact that our vessel is indeed empty, as she does not make any idea what it thinks).
I love how in this story, no one originally cares about the knight(you) Your father, The Pale King, who loved his son, the hollow knight, threw you down a pit and left you for dead. Same can be said for your sibling the Hollow knight. Your mother, the white lady, regards you as just another pawn in the pale kings plans. Even though she admires and even loves hornet. Hornet, your sister tries to kill you twice. All the people who do care about you, Cornifer, Quirrel, sly, Elderbug, etc do so after you earn their respect.
Tree mom: thank you for listening it’s just so hard to talk to people about this Me: don’t worry I’ve dealt with a similar situation before one time we had another ex-queen... Living underground... Devastated by the loss of her children..
oh I thought you were talking about hornet's mom, idk why though because hornet's the one who's supposed to be devastated by the loss of her mom not the other way around
okay why says everyone that she is a good mom? She meets her child the first time, has no words of love or acknowledgment for you and instead tells you to sacrifice yourself and that she loves your halfsister.... best mom
What I still don't understand is that, if its generally understood by most characters like Hornet and the White Lady that the knight is emotionless...... WHY DO THEY KEEP MONOLOUGING TO IT?
Emotionless doesn't mean responseless. The Knight has a purpose to fulfill, they may not be interested in talking themselves, but they are absorbing that knowledge.
Meepy i base my belief shes a root according to the words that appear once you get the king's part of the kingsoul ("soul of wyrm, soul of root, heart of void") and the fact that she is leafless and the game happens underground, but i can most definitely see how she could be a tree. Even then, little does it matter. It is agreed she is some sort of plant, but plants in hallownest could differ so much from those we know, just like the bugs do.
@@literallyeverything7264 how can a root be a mother to anything? That really makes no sense. She must be a complete being like a whole plant at the very least
How can a dream be the source of a parasite-like disease? This is a game, its world doesn’t have to follow any given rules. Also, I doubt she is anything we know, she’s a higher being, ok, but more than that, we don’t know. I say root because that is how she is referred to at some point and that’s how she looks to me. It’s like saying, for example, nosk is a bug. Well, yes, it resembles a bug more than anything and based on context, it could be, but there are no certainties.
Im confused. Not in a single moment the game tells you that she cared for her childs. The only motivation she had to procreate with PK, is that she is a sex adict, as far im concerned. She doesnt even recognice you as her kid, instead she calls you a fucking "replacement". She still loves PK, which means she didnt gave that much of a crap about the whole throw the vessels in the abyss thing, and after all this, the first thing she does when she meets you, is instigate you to become the substitute of the hollow knigth, basicaly condemning you to a life of captivity inside the black egg temple, with apparently cero remorse. Why do people justifies her actions and call her a good mother and a great character, but then they shit on PK for commit the same actions???? Am i missing something???
She literally says “she felt some shame in her part” Referring to the Vessel’s conception and then murder Did you not also see the nursery room in White Palace? That has the Shade leitmotif as a music box, and her imprint on the chair?
finally! She meets her child the first time and says: go and sacrifice yourself. she isnt better than the paleking, both of them use their children as pawns for the greater good. and dont come with "she feels sorry". we have just as many hints that the paleking felt sorry for what he "had" to do.
She was created from the void but she's not a vessel. That's why has things like a voice and a gender. She was created because Herrah wanted a child in exchange for allegiance to the king, not to contain the radiance.
It’s relaxing to just sit down and talk with mom not gonna lie
Ikr
White lady:Ako-manyaah
Me:Inspirational...tell me more.
I love the voiced gibberish in this game.
*_A K O M A N Y A_*
NYA
kwetz zoma kong-kong
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i might be wrong but for the folks who don't get it:
The White Lady is the Queen of Hallownest and mate to the Pale King. however, she has the uncontrollable desire to spread her seed. i think the Pale King used her seeds to create the Vessels, and when the White Lady found out about this, she hid in her gardens, ashamed.
Herrah is not the Queen of Hallownest, she is the queen of Deepnest. one of the lore tablets in the Fungal Wastes (please correct me if i am wrong!) says that Deepnest once had a king, but he somehow died. the reason for why he died is unknown.
when the Pale King wanted Herrah to be a seal, she didn't want to unless the Pale King would give her a child. Herrah and the Pale King then had a sexual relationship (White Lady even mentions a dalliance), resulting in the birth of Hornet. after that, Herrah was sealed away.
They didn't have a sexual relationship. They're two different bugs. I know people hate when others say this but I believe he used void to make a being out of both of them (Hornet) many say she's not void but that's my thought
@@Horzinicla watch hornet is not void video by mossbag, it has pretty solid evidence
Your right about them being two different bug tho. Maybe the pale King used his wierd wyrm powers to create hornet.
They had sexual act as far as Hallownest citizens are concerned. Bear in mind that Herrah IS a bug (arachinid), but PK is more close to vertebrates than anything else, not to mention a fucking god by greek standards, so who knows what method they used. Anyways, Hornet is the result of this pact, and whoever Herrah was, she must have been pretty powerful in dream manipulation to be chosen, hence PK did not hesitate even though he obviously only has eyes for his queen. Not that Herrah liked him either, she just knew the value of his wyrm genes.
And to be honest it was a pretty good decision. Hornet has since tasked herself with identifying and training a vessel that would bring hope to Hallownest, not to mention effectively keeping tomb thieves away. She is also skilled enough to help in keeping the Hollow Knight still and open a crack in its shell to allow entering its mind, not to mention that she has some kind of telepathic connection to it, being both half-siblings and HK not being totally empty (which adds to the fact that our vessel is indeed empty, as she does not make any idea what it thinks).
Hornet is the fucking one people that is iguals a vessel but it's not void IS THE FUCKING ONLY BUG THAT IS IGUALS A VESSEL BUT IS NOT VOID ;-;
I love how in this story, no one originally cares about the knight(you)
Your father, The Pale King, who loved his son, the hollow knight, threw you down a pit and left you for dead. Same can be said for your sibling the Hollow knight.
Your mother, the white lady, regards you as just another pawn in the pale kings plans. Even though she admires and even loves hornet.
Hornet, your sister tries to kill you twice.
All the people who do care about you, Cornifer, Quirrel, sly, Elderbug, etc do so after you earn their respect.
Don’t forget you had to kill one other sibling of yours (broken vessel)
0:56 the way she just opens her eyes, I can’t-
Dryyla be like:
*Must protecc*
Damn she doesn't even see the knight as her child, she just sees it as a a new vessel to replace the previous one
White lady: complex lore, has many regrets
Also white lady: caring tree mama
caring? she tells her child to go a sacrifice herself.... though she loves her stepdaughter
That moment when you meet your mom and she tells you to usurp your sibling
Lmao 🤣
"I know what you want to say, she's my sister and I should get along with her"
"No. She's crazy and she needs to go down"
Tree Mom and Goat Mom should be friends.
Who is goat mom lmao?
@@andy._.1951 Toriel from Undertale.
Damn right
From what I know about goat mum she would get along pretty well with the white lady
@@houndtwo0783 Yes, they'd both totally have tea afternoon together and just talk about how horrible their husbands are XD
Oh! One arrives. Dose it seek my aid? Or did the path carry it by chance to so pertinent place?
Me:Hiii mooom
tree mom
shes so cute
Both her are Pale King are lowkey the cutest gods I've seen in videogames.
The internet has ruined me because I deadass thought she was wearing a virgin killer sweater for a split second when I first went down here.
Actually....
How do we explain it to him
Yeah, about that....
.........
Oh man....
Tree mom: thank you for listening it’s just so hard to talk to people about this
Me: don’t worry I’ve dealt with a similar situation before one time we had another ex-queen...
Living underground...
Devastated by the loss of her children..
Oh, OOOH, I KNOW WHO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT :0
Undertale
Poor toriel
:0 toriel 😢😢
oh I thought you were talking about hornet's mom, idk why though because hornet's the one who's supposed to be devastated by the loss of her mom not the other way around
okay why says everyone that she is a good mom? She meets her child the first time, has no words of love or acknowledgment for you and instead tells you to sacrifice yourself and that she loves your halfsister....
best mom
Remember kids don’t bang trees
Hear me out
@@alexandreaffi4165 Would
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Kakyoin: [Happy noise]
Not sure a human could be so excited for an insect. Kakyoin might even be too huge and powerful for her.
The way this moment is orchestrated is very cool
She has anime eyes. lol
She's blind
No but actually yes
When you wear the defenders crest she just thinks the dung defenders there because of the smell
I never heard that loud whispering when I got my piece of Kings soul what
She will not get away for not paying child support for months!
but what about the other shard
How to get to it is in the description. I get it in this video: th-cam.com/video/NpNoVXDB61Q/w-d-xo.html
Nibel's spirit tree was the perfecct mate for the Lady and not the pale king lol
I like her eyes
What I still don't understand is that, if its generally understood by most characters like Hornet and the White Lady that the knight is emotionless......
WHY DO THEY KEEP MONOLOUGING TO IT?
Emotionless doesn't mean responseless. The Knight has a purpose to fulfill, they may not be interested in talking themselves, but they are absorbing that knowledge.
@@Macaulyn_97 yea but then "Hey ,go kill moth god, k?" would probably have the same affect, no? Though it would likely not make for good dialogue lol
What kind of bug is she meant to be?
None, she is a root.
Meepy i base my belief shes a root according to the words that appear once you get the king's part of the kingsoul ("soul of wyrm, soul of root, heart of void") and the fact that she is leafless and the game happens underground, but i can most definitely see how she could be a tree. Even then, little does it matter. It is agreed she is some sort of plant, but plants in hallownest could differ so much from those we know, just like the bugs do.
@@literallyeverything7264 how can a root be a mother to anything? That really makes no sense. She must be a complete being like a whole plant at the very least
How can a dream be the source of a parasite-like disease? This is a game, its world doesn’t have to follow any given rules. Also, I doubt she is anything we know, she’s a higher being, ok, but more than that, we don’t know. I say root because that is how she is referred to at some point and that’s how she looks to me. It’s like saying, for example, nosk is a bug. Well, yes, it resembles a bug more than anything and based on context, it could be, but there are no certainties.
@@literallyeverything7264 Also Grimm calls her the root.
Im confused. Not in a single moment the game tells you that she cared for her childs. The only motivation she had to procreate with PK, is that she is a sex adict, as far im concerned. She doesnt even recognice you as her kid, instead she calls you a fucking "replacement". She still loves PK, which means she didnt gave that much of a crap about the whole throw the vessels in the abyss thing, and after all this, the first thing she does when she meets you, is instigate you to become the substitute of the hollow knigth, basicaly condemning you to a life of captivity inside the black egg temple, with apparently cero remorse.
Why do people justifies her actions and call her a good mother and a great character, but then they shit on PK for commit the same actions????
Am i missing something???
She literally says “she felt some shame in her part”
Referring to the Vessel’s conception and then murder
Did you not also see the nursery room in White Palace? That has the Shade leitmotif as a music box, and her imprint on the chair?
I can feel your mommy issues from here
Go give her a hug
finally! She meets her child the first time and says: go and sacrifice yourself.
she isnt better than the paleking, both of them use their children as pawns for the greater good. and dont come with "she feels sorry". we have just as many hints that the paleking felt sorry for what he "had" to do.
Would bang
Hold up
Bro thats a tree
No
Pale king get the fuck to sleep
you're down bad
I like her
Hi Mum. Bye Mum.
Ako-manyaa
The white lady is the mother of the little guy you're controlling and it's father is pretty much dead and I LIKE THAT!😃
4 more likes until the video has 666 likes we can do this guys/gals/people!
Gendered child?
Hornet
Yessir, I know it's her, but I mean how is she "gendered child"? Is there some
speficic lore behind it?
also hi I love your videos
None of the vessels have genders otherwise, she is special. The White Lady keeps referring to your character as "it"
Okay, I never realised that she sort of is a vessel, too. Thanks, it makes a lot more sense now.
She was created from the void but she's not a vessel. That's why has things like a voice and a gender. She was created because Herrah wanted a child in exchange for allegiance to the king, not to contain the radiance.
Kawaii zuma kong kong
White lady is my waifu.
A K O M A N Y A
tree mom