Edison Format Part 2 | The History of Yu-Gi-Oh! #51

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  • @ChaoticMeatballTV
    @ChaoticMeatballTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +606

    As Joseph asked at the beginning of the video, how about you guys alternate one more time between the historic Edison format, and the current, and we get two more episodes out of it? This format's deep, and if you guys did 7 episodes of Dark Armed Dragon, why not spend 4 here?

    • @edisonformatcom
      @edisonformatcom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      This is a great idea

    • @pandaman1331
      @pandaman1331 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I agree with you. This format is worth extending on. And I am sure Cimo and MBT aren't going to be angry about more quarenteed content for a couple of weeks

    • @wintorz01
      @wintorz01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I vote this

    • @endeav0r_49
      @endeav0r_49 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      This but without the wheel, i want them to actually pick a deck they actually like and are passionate about

    • @sergiodanielmigoni8467
      @sergiodanielmigoni8467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm all in for an Edison exclusive series on thursdays

  • @applnokr743
    @applnokr743 3 ปีที่แล้ว +394

    Loving the Edison format guys. I vote for one more week of this, but you guys each cherry pick your favorite. Just don't intentionally tech your deck out to win the round!

    • @pandaman1331
      @pandaman1331 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Pick your favorite? That means Cimo will play Frog Monarchs

    • @endeav0r_49
      @endeav0r_49 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@pandaman1331 if this is what we have to endure for MBT to play QuickDraw DandyWarrior or Diva Hero, i can live with that

    • @WavemasterAshi
      @WavemasterAshi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I saw curated, but you engage in some low-key bullying so that he doesn't just run back to Monarchs.

    • @pandaman1331
      @pandaman1331 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@endeav0r_49 I can live with that very well because I love Monarchs. But I can already see a lot of people whining about Cimo playing Monarchs again

    • @RogueStand
      @RogueStand 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@WavemasterAshi their gonna whine regardless what cimo plays

  • @alenvukovic8278
    @alenvukovic8278 3 ปีที่แล้ว +379

    Alex and Joseph, please reed Vayu again. Vayu doesn't banish for cost so you can just keep activating Vayu under oppression until your opponent decides to stop paying LP. That's the reason why the deck play Oppression in the main.

    • @filipeezequieldasilva2341
      @filipeezequieldasilva2341 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      This is why oppression+kalut was so broken

    • @gjo79000
      @gjo79000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      This is also how treeborn worked back in the day, wouldn't have changed game 1 but it is relevant

    • @sekaihunter9378
      @sekaihunter9378 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      @@gjo79000 That is also why 2 Enemy Controller was in the main deck of Fish OTK. If you tribute Treeborn for Enemy Controller, you can just summon Treeborn straight back again during that same Standby phase.

    • @alenvukovic8278
      @alenvukovic8278 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I know guys, I can’t really blame them for not knowing every single card because they don’t play these formats, but nonetheless it would be much better if they knew.

    • @AlphaSquadZero
      @AlphaSquadZero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sekaihunter9378 That I didn't know, though I tend to have a pretty full board when I use econ.

  • @andresarancio6696
    @andresarancio6696 3 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    Cimo: *plays blackwings*
    Fanbase: *raises gun*
    Cimo: No Kalut tho!
    Fanbase: *slowly lowers the gun*

  • @soraonpaupuleaves
    @soraonpaupuleaves 3 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    Two great decks, even though Joseph was able to cycle through half his deck in one turn twice over the duels the Vayu deck and what it enabled was so cool on its own and very consistent! Dupe lock failed twice off the rip and Alex always had the outs smfh. Games had it all though, sick OTK mega summons, tough decisions with the DM staples that forced interesting interactions, and of course missing the timing 😭 both decks looked super fun to play though and honestly might be one of the best history eps

    • @darwinblau2127
      @darwinblau2127 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I actually have to disagree on Vayu - Cimo made it LOOK consistent, but sadly (luckily) it is far from that.
      It's an highroller-deck for sure - i just now simulated some opening hands and, man, you brick hard like 3/5 games.
      You get some garbo like triple Vayu, Caius, MST and just watch while your opponent rams tons of synchros down your throat on turn two.
      The other problem is that DADdy (IF you manage to draw him) is surprisingly inconsistent with mass mill like Troop and Doggo.
      You have one dark (Sangan or sth) in Grave and swoop mill 3 dark, no Vayu target, and you have one more dead card in your hand.

    • @soraonpaupuleaves
      @soraonpaupuleaves 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@darwinblau2127 gotta agree on the Cimo draws they were godlike and the ability to banish to get the grave where he needed to drop DAD (which he almost always had access to) was gross and enabled huge combo pushes and outs to everything Joseph could throw at him. Honestly if the Dupe lock even worked once I’m pretty sure Joseph immediately would have taken the game it worked in (cause his grave and hand was set to pop off the next turn). Three raiko first game immediately, and caius to immediately put it was gross as well. It takes a true anime protagonist to make the deck pop but Cimo is that, otherwise the fish deck has so much recursion and extension if any of those games lingered on any further Joseph for sure had it wrapped up. Cimo even played great tho when the odds weren’t in his favor, he would have lost the game if he didn’t book his own monster the one game and Joseph had the extremely hard choice to not get rid of Royal Decree that ended up backfiring in the end so it came down to Cimo having the exact outs to win it but still both decks worked extremely well. Was cool to see two massive combo strategies pop off and really showed the full power of both (except for the official fish OTK even though everything but the final OTK board itself was set up twice)

  • @Dav1dFPh1pps
    @Dav1dFPh1pps 3 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    You actually can't Oppression a Gorz since it's in the damage step. Vanity's Fiend was on the board anyways though so it doesn't matter

    • @juanberrocal4084
      @juanberrocal4084 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can oppression gorz

    • @Dylan-vs6sf
      @Dylan-vs6sf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@juanberrocal4084 You can't oppression a gorz summoned through battle damage. Gorz summons himself in the damage step where you can't legally activate oppression.

    • @ljaquos
      @ljaquos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      D A M A G E
      S T E P

  • @Hachigenushoda1
    @Hachigenushoda1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Honestly if there was an entire sub-series/arc dedicated to beloved formats and trying all of the decks in those formats I'd be 100% in.

    • @NickWuebker
      @NickWuebker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      We need a sub-series dedicated to Edison and Goat Format.

    • @18ps3anos
      @18ps3anos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@NickWuebker also September 2011, 2014 and modern trinity

    • @joaogarcia6170
      @joaogarcia6170 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Goat, edison and Duelist Alliance should be explored in-depth.

  • @jamescoppock4341
    @jamescoppock4341 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    What I love most about this series is that it shows competitive Yu-Gi-Oh as it was at the time. It's quite literally telling the HISTORY of the metagame. For that reason I'd like to see a curated match between the two best decks of the format!

    • @blahmaster6k
      @blahmaster6k 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Except for the part where they don't know how the cards work because they didn't play during the time period, so they don't hit the series maximum potential. As someone already pointed out, freeborn frog and vayu could both repeatedly activate under royal oppression. Probably wouldn't have changed anything, but it's just one example of a cool interaction they missed the chance to give spotlight to.

  • @spencerr8811
    @spencerr8811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    From someone who hasn't played much competitive yugioh, and don't know much about any format that hasn't been in the past couple years. This is by far my favorite format that has been showcased on the history of yugioh. I would love to see another week of this. For the next week I would love for you to choose your favorite decks from this format past or present.

  • @larryjohnson6208
    @larryjohnson6208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    Cimo's deck is literally a conglomeration of all his favorite decks over these series:
    Monarch
    DAD
    Lightsworn
    And Blackwing
    Can't be any more fitting than that 😁

  • @kacpikachu5951
    @kacpikachu5951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I'm down for any extra Edison episodes tbh. I'm genuinely fascinated by this format.

    • @mnorth1351
      @mnorth1351 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      As someone who stopped playing in 2008, I am likewise fascinated by it. I still maintain my opinion that it is a fundamentally different game than GOAT era YGO - but it could be a game worth playing.

    • @coreygolphenee9633
      @coreygolphenee9633 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mnorth1351 in a lot of ways it's not though because it's generic engines that are basically combining for interaction, Yu-Gi-Oh lost it's fun when everything became hero with no bad cards, what makes Edison goat and fire water fun is that you have variety and interaction, the only tier 0 format that is interesting is drulers because the decks were hard to play optimally but that's about it

  • @segafreak2000
    @segafreak2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Not gonna lie, this has probably been the best week Cimo had on his channel so far. Between the galaxy brain move that was the D/D/D deck in progression, to Joseph getting the chance to munch all noobs, to RJB0 flipping the bird for five minutes straight to this amazing match here, this week has been consistently great.

  • @JayPhoenix
    @JayPhoenix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Y’all, you can vayu under oppression. Or rather, it didn’t remove as cost so it’s like treeborn. The opponent can pay, but you can just do it nonstop until it goes through.
    That’s why vayu decks played oppression, it doesn’t lock you out of summoning big monsters with vayu.

    • @SardonicVida
      @SardonicVida 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LegendLeaguer treeborn wasn’t once per turn at this point in time

    • @LegendLeaguer
      @LegendLeaguer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SardonicVida my bad, it's second only to Necrovalley it seems

    • @SardonicVida
      @SardonicVida 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LegendLeaguer yea the frog has like what 5 erratas right now lol
      It was so good back then

    • @LegendLeaguer
      @LegendLeaguer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SardonicVida from what I've gathered there was a new ruling in 2014 that made in a soft once per turn, so using a solemn on it would keep it from being summoned (for that turn, and only that single one if you had multiples in GY)
      The most recent printing/errata just codified the ruling into card text, where if it gets negated in GY that's it but if it gets summoned and sent to GY again in the Standby, you can use it again, for example Torrential Tribute. A way I like to use it is with Linkuriboh's quick effect to revive itself.

    • @SardonicVida
      @SardonicVida 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LegendLeaguer that was 2014 tho, they are playing a 2010 format.
      It wasn’t soft once per turn in 2010

  • @YamiSilaas
    @YamiSilaas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    I want to see them all! For my money, Edison is the best format in the game's history. Goat is great, but the power spells cause the format to have this annoying problem where the game is determined by the most skillful player top decking them for game. I admit, as a skilled YGO player, I have no problem sacking the shit out of my friends and have been shamelessly doing it for decades, but it does get stale being so good at the game after awhile.

    • @TheWonkster
      @TheWonkster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      A lot of people underestimate the skill required to top-deck pot into graceful

    • @thedootlord
      @thedootlord 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@TheWonkster into dueo

    • @DoctorFalchion
      @DoctorFalchion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Personally I'd prefer to see Royal Oppression gone, but otherwise I agree, this format rocks!

    • @thedootlord
      @thedootlord 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DoctorFalchion the opression caues depression

    • @Prodigial
      @Prodigial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There have been analyses done that show that Trinity is not as godlike as people think and, since GOAT doesn't really have many viable OTK strategies, there is usually enough time to recuperate card value if you play well. As broken as it is, you would be surprised at how small of an advantage playing Pot of Greed does for winr ate. Tired of people talking about GOAT being sacky when this format is literally just as sacky (as is ANY yugioh format). The difference is the sack cards in GOAT are the same 3 and the sack cards in other formats go by different names (but that doesn't make drawing them any less game winning).
      th-cam.com/video/N--Va0LQq7k/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=allencpennington

  • @edisonformatcom
    @edisonformatcom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    This was a blast to watch! We're really glad you guys are loving the format so much :)

  • @garrettlk596
    @garrettlk596 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    God I miss older slower yugioh! Watching decks go blow for blow is so much more fun than just trying to overcome 4+ negates off the opening hand imo.

  • @urgeboat8078
    @urgeboat8078 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I actually enjoyed the additional 3rd game, it’s best for everyone. We get an additional game 3, you guys get more ad rev, and we also don’t get the winner spoiled by the video time

  • @hi-i-am-atan
    @hi-i-am-atan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    to clarify on ryko vs. dupe frog: when it comes to ocg and modern tcg rulings, being destroyed by ryko does _not_ cause a card to miss timing, as the two effects _are_ simultaneous ( i.e. they're effectively "and if you do" / "and" effects that are independent of each other, hence why you can destroy when you can't mill and mill when you can't destroy ). as far as upper deck-era ygo, though, they ruled that it targets _and_ the milling happens _after_ the destruction. the dragon's collide ( feb 2012 ) reprint brought the targeting into psct, though its wording is identical to the ocg version otherwise. the premium gold one that followed ( march 2014 ) properly "canonized" the mill-after-destroy ruling, and it would effectively remain in that state until the link strike ( july 2017 ) reprint finally just made it work like it was meant to
    which, yeah, means the reason why ryko is so confusing is entirely because upper deck had no idea how to localize it, and konami decided not to correct it until several years later because ... everyone was already used to it, i guess. if you ignore all that, though, ryko is actually one of the _most_ straightforward monsters out there to use without advanced knowledge of ygo, because there's no issue of dependent effects or effect timing or anything like that

  • @spyreofthewolves8125
    @spyreofthewolves8125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Treeborn Frog isn’t OPT… 800 per Frog seems fine to me!

    • @KuroskiX3812
      @KuroskiX3812 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Right? I thought i was tripping. Isnt that why you can enemy controller treeborn again? I didnt see anyone comment this and really thought i was just wrong

    • @matthewlawlor4052
      @matthewlawlor4052 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KuroskiX3812he didn’t do it because Cimoooooo would’ve just oppressioned anything else he summoned. He wouldn’t of wasted his lp on treeborn.

    • @tuvillo
      @tuvillo ปีที่แล้ว

      They did change the ruling a few years later. It's OPT now, at least. They changed Swap Frog at the same time.

  • @id319
    @id319 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Interesting thing about Royal Oppression vs Treeborn in Edison format, you can use it infinity times! So it doesn’t hit treeborn at all

    • @dimasgustino9156
      @dimasgustino9156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think they touch on that in the video, of which cimo said it wouldn't help. Cimo will not opression the treeborn, but will opression the coelecanth effect

    • @poisonedyoyo
      @poisonedyoyo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      People tried to Oppression a Treeborn? That's hilarious. Is "During the Stadby PHase" really that confusing a statement? There literally isn't a "once per turn" clause on the effect.

  • @simonenappo6005
    @simonenappo6005 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I would LOVE to see Quickdraw Dandy Warrior in action, it is actually my favorite deck of all time! Made me fell completely in love with this game! Please guys, another Edison episode!

  • @chronobretz9511
    @chronobretz9511 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    These were such great matches with cool decks I can see why this is a loved format

  • @Tomix4k
    @Tomix4k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    38:36 Cimoooooooo: "Did you forget I had the Vanity's fiend?"
    MBT: "Noooo... I have plans for the Vanity's fiend" - *he lied as naturally as he breathed*

  • @waves5249
    @waves5249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    26:30 cimo had the OTK if he summoned DAD, banish vayu for armed, and then burial back vayu for another armed, which would have been 9100 dmg on board

    • @MrTrocheyoshi
      @MrTrocheyoshi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      at 39:09 I'm also certain he could have tried to Vayu w/ sirrocco which caused his opponent to pay 800 for oppression, and then summoned the hamster for 3500 game.

    • @FilthyWeeb27
      @FilthyWeeb27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      MBT is main decking gorz and battle fader so going all in is risky, the more egregious misplay was not hitting superancient king with book when MBT summoned it game 2, but luckily for cimo mbt blundered his way to a loss from that position by not beating over the set ryko with unifrog for some reason, even though he knew cimo had vanitys in hand. "I have ways to deal with vanitys" proceeds to lose hard to vanitys.

    • @FilthyWeeb27
      @FilthyWeeb27 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrTrocheyoshi Vanitys fiend was on field

    • @MrTrocheyoshi
      @MrTrocheyoshi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FilthyWeeb27 Shows how much I pay attention. lol

    • @Ace95616
      @Ace95616 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Saw that line too. Don't know why he punted so hard. Might have done it to keep the video longer.

  • @petergregory7177
    @petergregory7177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Glad to see Joe has taught these fish to synchro summon. Im not saying this is a good Idea. But it might be cool to see the 1st place of the historic against the worst modern deck to see the amount of development the formats gone through?

    • @mohamedahmed-qc1uf
      @mohamedahmed-qc1uf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh you mean warrocks (worst modern deck)

    • @petergregory7177
      @petergregory7177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mohamedahmed-qc1uf Definitely mean worst modern edison deck.

    • @mohamedahmed-qc1uf
      @mohamedahmed-qc1uf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@petergregory7177 oh ok idk about that

  • @haruhirogrimgar6047
    @haruhirogrimgar6047 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    More episodes of this please. Another modern Edison, another historic Edison, and a finale modern vs historic Edison.

  • @janghke
    @janghke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Curated matches are by far the best content in this series. The wheel's funny but as the primary purpose of this series is to educate I don't think it fits the series as much as planned matches do.

    • @mihneazoican2479
      @mihneazoican2479 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I was so mad a couple of months ago when we got mirror match after mirror match. I hope they’d just pick their fav deck of the format and play

  • @scampbell7633
    @scampbell7633 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Can’t MBT just continuously keep trying to bring back Treeborn in the SP in game 1?
    Edit: Ah Cimo confirms he can in Game 2

    • @ChampionMarx
      @ChampionMarx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      treeborn is a once per turn so no

    • @AccelerationYGO
      @AccelerationYGO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Back then it only required that you had no S/Ts and that you didn't control a Treeborn

    • @Joe.Elston-Gardner
      @Joe.Elston-Gardner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cimoo can infinity try to banish for vayu as well

  • @Dee-ex9xy
    @Dee-ex9xy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What I want from the History of Yugioh series is literally just more videos. This series is so fun to watch and I'm always excited to see the next episode!

  • @lightforce4739
    @lightforce4739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The second - the precise SECOND - that I saw Oppression in Cimo's list, I knew how this was going to end. The universe would let things unfold in no other possible way.

  • @aetherlift9076
    @aetherlift9076 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    there's SO many decks in this format we havent even seen at all so i'd be happy to spend an extra few episodes here tbh

  • @deluezian_helix
    @deluezian_helix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I fully support an Edison series, so yes extra episodes of any type are more than welcome.

  • @alfredosaint-jean9660
    @alfredosaint-jean9660 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Games that use the extra deck and are decided by combat?
    This format feels like how Yu-Gi-Oh should be.

    • @poisonedyoyo
      @poisonedyoyo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, how Yugioh should be is mill, burn, and other conditions to win, also there's a card that specifically coutners mill in an annoying way so people have no excuse not to run that if they're concerned about it. Fianl Coutndown, Destiny Boare, Exodia, and stuff of that nature are just a trifle harder to stop, although not so much Destiny Board.
      Although I guess your statement is true with SOME Archtypes, like Skull Servaqnts where there's no limit to how high their ATK can get.

  • @Coolcone101
    @Coolcone101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro, I don't think i've ever said "Treeborn isn't once per turn" so enthusiastically in my entire life hahaha

  • @jzap_ygo
    @jzap_ygo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love to see it Cimo! Please make sure the power of future fusion (prr-errata) and REDMD + 5 Headed Dragon is displayed. Ps Oppression doesn't stop Vayu bc banish is not cost, thus can trigger over and over till the opponent realizes they are burning themselves

  • @Alx501
    @Alx501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Somebody needs to make a gif of Cimo's confused reaction to MBT's monologue where he seemed to forget he bounced Vanity's Fiend back to his hand the prior turn lol

  • @MFMegaZeroX7
    @MFMegaZeroX7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think it would be good for the next match to be where you both get to choose your favorite deck so we can see Diva Heroes vs whatever Cimo chooses.

  • @Towoification
    @Towoification 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    26:27 Missed lethal, you had 3 darks in the grave, you could summon DAD, then summon another armed wing with the burial, 4600 more damage.

    • @otakotako2601
      @otakotako2601 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      prob playing around gorz and fader

  • @chavosaur2221
    @chavosaur2221 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    DO YOU THINK THAT IM IN-VIS-A-BLE
    *electronic noises*

  • @FlareSherbetNatsu
    @FlareSherbetNatsu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nah I'm ALWAYS down to see Cimo play more Blackwings, watching MBT and Gaige have the life drain from their eyes as Cimo leans into his mic and ASMR's "damage step" is the most hilarious thing in the world

  • @peytonkapel7482
    @peytonkapel7482 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i loved watching this. i’m watching you guys to learn how to play Edison w a blackwing deck, going to play for the first time this week after building my deck!

  • @charlieo1138
    @charlieo1138 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love when you guys mix it up and hope you continue to surprise us. That being said, my favorite moments from the series are the careful reconstructions of the moments and tournaments in Yu-Gi-Oh as it was. As a returning player, largely thanks to this series, I both enjoy this style of content more, and get a better grasp of how the game changed.

  • @embernape
    @embernape 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For the Raiko and Dupe Frog ruling, it wasnt until July 2017 that Raiko got errata'd to make the effects simultaneous. Before this Raiko's pop and mill were in sequence so Dupe Frog misses timing during Edison Format but not nowadays.

  • @applnokr743
    @applnokr743 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @20:00 lol, with all the misplays in this series, you two are worried about missed timing? You guys are awesome. I respect the attempt to keep the series honest.

    • @applnokr743
      @applnokr743 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Special summoning extra deck monsters (fusion monsters) to normal zones in MR4 is against the rules.

  • @cascada5200
    @cascada5200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    2:20 Wheel
    5:05 Deck List / Breakdown
    13:00 Duels

  • @maggiethegoblin8130
    @maggiethegoblin8130 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd be down for more of this format, it's one of my personal favorites, and it rocks seeing you two enjoy it so much.

  • @jartocopas
    @jartocopas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    31:27 both players activate simultaneously "sitting readjustment"

  • @Weareonenation303
    @Weareonenation303 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'd like to see a game where Cimo gets triple Kaluted for his entire life savings.

  • @saviorofthelion
    @saviorofthelion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'd love more matches with the decks on the wheel. You could end the series of edison format with a curated match between finalists

  • @magiccardmaster9921
    @magiccardmaster9921 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    17:10 think mbt forget to shuffle there when adding the monsters back to the deck with pot of avarice

  • @TheHadesHand
    @TheHadesHand 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'd love to see 2 things in this before you move on, a match between what would be considered the best historic deck and the best modern one, and a match between the two best ones of the historic format

  • @genm4827
    @genm4827 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    For all of us who haven't kept up with the game over the years and are using this series as a way to catch up, it would be nice if every new card to the History series (especially ones that are complicated or important to the deck's strategy) would be explained a bit more in depth. I feel like there were more explanations earlier in this series that made it easier to understand for viewers new to those eras of the game.

  • @frankyquilavafireblast895
    @frankyquilavafireblast895 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, that was so awesome to watch. I’ve been putting these on in the background, but this one had my full attention.

  • @MRawesome202
    @MRawesome202 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have really been enjoying Edison and I would be happy to see you guys do several more episodes in it! I think I honestly want to see all of these decks in action at some point

  • @johnnywilson3071
    @johnnywilson3071 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it shows how important formula synchron was to further enabling fish OTK, as that card gave you a way to continously use blaster and synchro climb and lets not forget the infamous "opp turn" black rose.

  • @XxXSpazz284XxX
    @XxXSpazz284XxX 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Legit so happy one of you played value turbo. This is my favorite deck of all time

  • @maximusatlas9377
    @maximusatlas9377 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a strong 5Ds era fan I am very glad that I can see all these Edison decks. I remember this era with a bunch of love. 5Ds era is my favorite era.

  • @ui264
    @ui264 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    37:45: THE BANTER OH MY GOODNESS.
    ・THIS IS PEAK YU-GI-OH 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @TheCopyNinjaRF
    @TheCopyNinjaRF 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super happy to see Dragons make the wheel that deck got me into the game and I played it and variants for years until rulers and now todays dragon link.

  • @mirageowl
    @mirageowl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how they are describing these deck as noone played these, but I can show you almost that exact deck list on Tag Force 4

  • @xakannax
    @xakannax 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I feel like you should have attacked his facedown monster with your 400 attack frog in case it was ryko g2 since you had the read it was probably something small (its the only card hes set in all games) that way he couldnt remake vanities potentially

    • @clayxros576
      @clayxros576 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think he would have if he hadn't decided on the attack with Unifrog. He'd already declared direct attack, and Joe tends to not redo moves.

  • @giannispapakrivopoulos5455
    @giannispapakrivopoulos5455 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I laughed so hard at 37:55 where Joseph thought that oppression would save him from vayu. #reading

  • @ArthroG
    @ArthroG 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love one more episode of this format like history of jank. Not everyday you could see this many decks in a format

  • @alejandroloaiza8325
    @alejandroloaiza8325 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love to see a lot more about Edison, this was at the time that I started playing yugioh seriously and I remember I loved this format

  • @MaxClawsonYT
    @MaxClawsonYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun fact about RO:Royal Oppression Guys; It can't stop Vayu from the graveyard, so Cimo was in the total driver seat in game 2.

  • @BlaiseArath
    @BlaiseArath 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Feel like these Frog strategies would be amazing if they weren't being used against an Anime Protagonist who always has the right combos and cards to deal with it, on top of seemingly having "iconic cards" glued to his opening hand, and in this episode it was Reiko.

    • @NickWuebker
      @NickWuebker 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The deck probably would've worked better for MBT if he had access to Ronintoadin.

    • @coreygolphenee9633
      @coreygolphenee9633 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The frog strategys are yugiohs midrange, very consistent and versatile in the beginning very powerful in the middle, requires a ton of skill to play well late, and prone to Savagely bricking hard,

    • @coreygolphenee9633
      @coreygolphenee9633 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NickWuebker yeah but then it's broken lol

  • @majesticat935
    @majesticat935 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When the Oppression... is ROYAL!!!

  • @chrisspiker6532
    @chrisspiker6532 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Edison format is my favorite by far! Thank you so much for extending it! Please continue on it for a while!

  • @JamesABloomfield
    @JamesABloomfield 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    TItans match has got to be the one! Always more fun to see you guys get to play something absurd against eachother instead of someone just losing based on a bad spin.

  • @DanteAlighieriIlBulloDiFirenze
    @DanteAlighieriIlBulloDiFirenze 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thx to you guys I got interested into Edison Format, played it with my friends and they find it cool too. Now we at locals play just that format. We love it

  • @cheer90099
    @cheer90099 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to see both a curated match between the two strongest decks at the time and another episode where y'all just spin for the modern Edison decks, cause I honestly can't get enough of this format, it's so cool

  • @jaymiechan
    @jaymiechan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    started this because i saw Coelacanth on the screen; i PLAYED Fish OTK back in that format, instead of it being "made afterwards". Though, those days, the combos were Mist Wurm+Scrap Archfiend (Oyster, Metabo, 2 Royal Swamp), or Brionac+Ally of Justice Decisive Armor (2 Royal Swamp, 2 Oyster).

  • @trickout42
    @trickout42 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    More of both! Please stay in Edison for a long time, and cover every deck! This format looks so fucking awesome!

  • @hbenensky
    @hbenensky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    More Edison format pls. Maybe diva hero vs dandy QuickDraw

  • @absolutelyamazing253
    @absolutelyamazing253 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how at 31:27 they both readjust their seating at almost the exact same time

  • @sternguard77
    @sternguard77 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A curated match sounds awesome. Actually some of my favorite History content is when you guys have specific formats.

  • @ToaArcan
    @ToaArcan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    God, Game 2 had fucking everything.
    MBT got to pop off with Coelacanth, Cimo got both BW Synchros, DAD, Caius, and Vanity's Fiend on board, the fun with figuring out what to do about Oppression, that was some good shit.

  • @SlashWest
    @SlashWest 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please do 2 more weeks of this format! It's my personal favorite. I'd love to see a curated Machina v Quickdraw duel, and Diva Hero get a chance to shine.

  • @Rick_Rolland
    @Rick_Rolland 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I personally would like to see some more episodes of both the historic and modern Edison formats.If I had to pick, I would say modern, since they are new decks. However, I don't mind watching multiple episodes in a given format. I love the slice of history you guys do. I would rather see as many cool decks as we can, rather than rush through formats. (especially decks that disappear)
    Best YGO series on the site by far, keep up the great work.

  • @aetius254
    @aetius254 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The score is now
    Cimo: 26
    MBT: 25

  • @Yous0147
    @Yous0147 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would really enjoy more edison, this is my favourite format and I'm so happy to see it be so popular. I personally like the modern edison decks more, more of that would be great but in general I would welcome several weeks of this regardless definitely.

  • @metalmario1231
    @metalmario1231 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im so down for more of this format....amazing match both of you gg guys

  • @canadacaden3266
    @canadacaden3266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Cimo missed game on first turn of duel 2. After resolving Grepher's second effect, summon DAD, use Vayu for Armed Wing, Burial to do it again so the board is DAD, 2 Armed Wings and Grepher. 9100 damage on board and is a quasi-FTK if Joseph doesn't have specifically Battle Fader in hand.

    • @Brayan-nh4gx
      @Brayan-nh4gx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But how does cimo know Joseph doesn’t have battle fader lol. Pretty sure he saw this line too and was like I should keep dad for safety instead of putting all his resources onto the field where it can die easier

    • @FilthyWeeb27
      @FilthyWeeb27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Battle fader or gorz, going all in is risky and it was a pretty obvious otk

  • @Cado-101
    @Cado-101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please do way more Edison, since we got so much DAD we need some more love for this great format!

  • @MercenaryPen
    @MercenaryPen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    definitely gonna be fun to see more Edison format- no preference as to what approach you take to showcasing it

  • @tonberryking42
    @tonberryking42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To answer the Ryko thing, you're playing with Light of Destruction/Turbo Pack: Booster One Ryko - Gold Series 4 isn't out until half way through 2011, Ryko at this time Targets because the rulings say so, AND the mill causes things to Miss the Timing, also because the rulings say so. So MBT is correct here, Ryko makes Dupe miss time.
    Gold Series 4 (June/July 2011) does not change the timings, but it does say "Select".
    Dragons Collide (February 2012) sees Ryko with its first PSCT pass, specifying that it Targets, but it was before all of the conjunctions were codified, so it still causes timings to miss because nothing about this errata contradicted actual rulings, and TCG Konami got into the terrible habit of *pointedly* not answering ruling questions and telling people to read the card.
    Premium Gold (March 2014) updates the PSCT to have the "also, after that" conjunction
    Realm of Light (June 2014) uses a wholly new form of PSCT, specifying they occur in sequence as part of the same Flip Effect; it targets then sends.
    Link Strike (2017) is finally the current Ryko, which is listed on Dueling Book, which specifies that the effects are Simultaneous, AND Ryko no longer targets.

  • @CoordinatorKYamato
    @CoordinatorKYamato 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Two more episodes, two more episodes! I don't even care what decks, Edison is just a fantastic format.

  • @toastadasd8578
    @toastadasd8578 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Last episode was weird but this one got me excited about this format, so cool to watch

  • @Ir0nRon1n
    @Ir0nRon1n 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait to get here in history of jank. Keep up the Edison content. Literally everyone wants more.

  • @wyattdupre2721
    @wyattdupre2721 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love how people panick when they see cimo and blackwings together now

  • @curtistaylor8523
    @curtistaylor8523 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will consume whatever amount of Edison format content you guys produce. You could make a whole other SERIES for all I care. I’m watching every minute. This format rocks.

  • @IlCremo
    @IlCremo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When the OPPRESSION IS ROYAL!

  • @songanon
    @songanon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    bruh these edison modern format games are so good ! you can see the quality and time it took to make this meta. Def we need another modern format ONE!

  • @safeandsound712
    @safeandsound712 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This series is great. Love the set up. I'm so excited for the dragon ruler vs. Spellbooks episode

  • @StarkMaximum
    @StarkMaximum 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to see a curated game of Edison where you two just pilot decks you're passionate about. The wheel is cute and it's fun to play random decks but you guys clearly have decks you WANT to play, and playing a deck you want to play is how people learn about those decks and the format as a whole, so please, please do a curated match where you guys can just pick a deck and forgo the wheel entirely.

  • @jacobreynolds9372
    @jacobreynolds9372 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys got me into Edison, i didnt know this was a thing and i loved this format.

  • @QueenJneeuQ
    @QueenJneeuQ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wait am i right this is a misplay, at the end of game 2, Joseph could have kept summoning the treeborn under oppression but didn't? Right if Cimo negated it with oppression he could have just summoned it again?

    • @SanctuaryYT
      @SanctuaryYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Vanity's was up

    • @lucassantiagosanchez257
      @lucassantiagosanchez257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah he could have summoned the treeborn over and over again, the thing is Cimo could have chose not to negate more times and just wait to negate the synchros from the coelacanth instead once he was summoned. So i think it wouldnt have mattered anyway.

    • @scythermantis
      @scythermantis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same thing with Vayu in the graveyard as well though

  • @TheYardbird66
    @TheYardbird66 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Edison format is so much cooler than I ever thought from someone that dropped out a bit into Gx Era, This is so much fun to watch would love to see more of both the event itself and the historic format the has come after!

  • @alanfernandez4521
    @alanfernandez4521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    20:45. Ryko was also erratad so many times because of the milling effect. I believe Edison ryko is destroy one card (non targeting), then mill 3 cards.

    • @justinmadrid8712
      @justinmadrid8712 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      but back then things targeted even though they do not say they target

    • @coreygolphenee9633
      @coreygolphenee9633 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justinmadrid8712 ryko targets afaik

    • @justinmadrid8712
      @justinmadrid8712 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@coreygolphenee9633 Yes. In Edison, Ryko indeed does target. (even though the word 'target' is not on the card)

  • @michaelmon1337
    @michaelmon1337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    couldnt treeborn just activate after oppression resolves? since its still the sp

    • @kabal9900
      @kabal9900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I was thinking that too

    • @sorakillingzombies
      @sorakillingzombies 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats exactly how it works. These misplays