@@OfficialMediaKnights Adamantium is toxic, but because of Logan’s and Laura’s healing abilities, it was never an issue. However, as Logan is likely over two hundred years old, his body no longer heals like it once did and the adamantium was slowly killing him.
@@williambryan3346No. A lot of people seemed to miss in the movie that anti-mutant chemicals were being put into the GMO food that everyone ate. There’s hints of this throughout the movie and even some dialogue from the bad guy scientist about it. This “cure” additive suppressed the mutant gene and is why mutant births are stopping and why Logan’s regenerative abilities are becoming weaker, leading to his sudden aging and possible adamantium poisoning actually effecting him now. The everyday food and drinks he consumed were killing him. This could also be part of the reason why Charles Xavier was losing control of his powers as well.
I thought the same thing while watching the movie and after, never thought i'd see someone with the exact same thought lol These are my two favorite "kid performances" in movies
Although I love both performances you list, I gotta go with Haley Joel Osment in The Sixth Sense. I'm not trying to take anything away from Dafne Keen or Natalie Portman. I just think that in terms of all time great child actor performances, Osment's turn in The Sixth Sense deserves a mention.
It's one thing to be a supporting actor - much different as a co-star. Most child actors tend to annoy me, but I'll put some blame on the script and director. Freddie Boath (Alex in The Mummy Returns) was another whom entertained and did exactly what the part required.
If I remember correctly, when Patrick Stewart and Hugh Jackman watched this at Cannes, they said they held hands during it and both were in tears at the end. Best performances by these two men who brought these characters to life for us.
He was 247, he lived from 1832-2023 (191 years) but then time traveled back to 1973-2029, adding another 56 years, making him 247 years old when he died in Logan
The healing factor was one of the reasons Logan (James) was picked to have the Adamantium bonded to his skeleton. He was one of the few that could survive both physically and mentally through the trauma of the procedure. His healing factor is constantly dealing with the toxicity build up of the heaviest of metals in his body.
There is one more thing that sometimes we forget about Logan and the healing factor: not only the Adamantium Poisoning him but also giving it a boost by keeping him in permanent healing mode.👍👍
His healing factor actually also had an unintended detrimental effect at the end of the movie. People always say the serum didn't last long, but I just realized that's because it's a foreign contaminant in his body, so the very same healing factor that the serum kicked into high gear also worked to clear the serum from his system, despite it being beneficial.
its a mix of the metal and because of all of the dna altering chemicals the bad guys put into food and water. if i remember correctly they said it was put into corn surup, which is put into everything execpt for un processed water and meat from freshly killed animals.
My family saw ‘Logan’ during our darkest times. My late mother was suffering from dementia when half the family needed a break taking care of her. While half the family covered for us, my father and two brothers saw ‘Logan’ with me. Charles just reminded us of what our mom was going through. This was the hardest film we ever watched. We felt traumatized and injured after. We had to let time pass after we lost mom, before we could see the film again. As hard and heart-wrenching this film was for us, it is a masterpiece.
if i remember correctly it was that the adamantium around his skeleton is in fact poisoning him slowly but his healing factor is keeping it at bay, now that his healing factor is getting weaker and slower, the adamantium poison is in fact slowly poisoning him over years
It's kinda sad that the adamantium that made him so unstoppable and iconic is also the reason he is dies. There is some comfort in knowing he was ready for it. He fought for such a long time ❤️
@@OfficialMediaKnights Its the same with Charles, over the years a profesor that took care of kids and rised them to be good...only to later lose control over his power becouse of a stroke affecting his health and killing all his friends and students in one blow.
I took it that the same way that the food tampering that prevented new mutants being born is also affecting wolverine’s healing abilities, since he’s obviously exposed to it as well
It was the terrigen mist that they introduced into the food terrigen is poison for mutants. His healing factor will never slow down but since he unknowingly was poisoning himself it was stopping his mutant powers. Its also what started the war between mutants and inhumans.
This film absolutely destroyed me when I first saw it. I grew up watching Hugh and Patrick portray Wolverine and Professor X from 2000 onward and this was definitely a devastating end of an era. The ending alone broke my heart with the father/daughter moment. Such an epic masterpiece. Rest in peace, Logan and Charles 💔 (glad they've been coming back for more films though ☺)
**made some edits to the timeline to better suit first-time watchers** Also, for reference, this movie is NOT in the same timeline as X-Men Origins or X2. This is in the timeline of Apocalypse and the re-written past of Days of Future Past. **POSSILBE SPOILERS** I think the official timeline goes as follows (not including MCU related films) - X-Men: First Class takes place in 1962 - X-Men Origins: Wolverine mostly takes place in 1979 - X-Men in 2000 - X2: X-Men United in 2003 - X-Men: The Last Stand in 2006 - The "Extended Cut" of The Wolverine in 2013 This is where the timeline gets a little re-write (The above films are still canon, but most are not directly in the same timeline) - The "Rogue Cut" of X-Men: Days of Future Past is set in the future of 2023, with the past getting re-written in 1973 The only films directly connected to the films below are First Class and Days of Future Past - X-Men Apocalypse takes place in 1983 - X-Men: The Dark Phoenix in 1992 - Deadpool takes place when it was released...(present day)...2016 - The New Mutants, from my knowledge, takes place in 2027 - Logan officially ends the timeline in 2029 - The "Super Duper Cut" of Deadpool 2, as with DP1, also takes place when it was released...(present day)...2018, but thanks to Deadpool shenanigans it's best to watch it after Logan. If we were to include the MCU...(which would involve a more extended timeline that I could work on)... - Deadpool & Wolverine would take place after the "Super Duper Cut" of DP2
This was so great, thank you for the timeline!! Honestly I've been so attached to Hugh Jackman and Patrick Stewart as these characters, it made it so much more heartbreaking to see where they ended up. But what a hard-hitting story!! It was truly incredible and such a moving story!
@@Jack_80 *SPOILERS* At the end of Days of Future Past, Stryker finds Logan's past self. In Apocalypse, the X-Men find Logan at Stryker's lab, so Wolverine still had those experiments done on him.
Fun fact: In a cast commentary for Logan, Patrick Stewart mentions that Laura's dialogue for the truck scene was completely improvised by Dafne. The writers originally scripted the scene to have as little dialogue as possible for Laura but they loved Dafne's performance so much that they kept it in.
What I LOVED about the hotel scene was the way that the soldiers were able to actually turn their gaze to Logan just before he butchered them. What a horrifying thought. Being able to see your imminent death and being able to do absolutely nothing about it. Charles has complete control of every single person in his immediate radius, and only Logan and Laura are able to fight it.
I really loved the real world implications this movie had, “What happens when the man with a metal skeleton starts to rust?” “What happens when the smartest man in the world starts to lose his mind?”. Heartbreaking film, but an amazing one too
@@kylester0055 Rewatch & pay attention. The comic lore has always been that Logan is effectively immortal. Short of complete body annihilation he would live basically for a VERY long time, if not forever. He was absolutely favorite character for a long time from my youth. I don't care about all this like I used to but it does annoy me when modern twerps try to "reimagine" characters. Now, the idea that the food is genetically poisoned is a way to get around his healing factor, and cause Prof X's power to go haywire. Notice early on them showing Logan getting junk food snacks for Caliban, prof, & himself. The people in the entertainment industry always blend bits of reality in with the fiction. Our actual food supplies have also been tainted & are having all kinds of ill effects on us.
Yukio in 2013's The Wolverine predicted Logan's death. He would be on his back, blood everywhere, holding his heart in his hand. At the time, we thought it was literal. Now we know its metaphorical for Laura. ❤
NO SHE DIDN'T WOULD Y'ALL QUIT SAYING THAT CORNY CRAP SHE LITERALLY MEANT WHAT SHE SAID. HIS HEART WAS IN HIS HAND, WHY WOULD SHE SAY AFTER THAT IT'S NOT BEATING JESUS CHRIST.
I saw Logan shortly after I watched my dad die of a heart attack, he passed in my arms. Logan's death and his goodbye to her, helped me process the grief. It was a very powerful movie for me at a dark time, and I am sure most who witnessed loss can relate. :)
The girl's performance was as near flawless as could be achieved. You could not have told me the storyline and made me accept it... but the performance SOLD IT.
@@Kiljaedenas I'm honestly hoping they fix this in the Deadpool and Wolverine movie. Dafne Keen did a great job of this particular character, but much like Hugh Jackman has really only portrayed Wolverine once, the comic character for X-23 would be very cool to see on screen.
Did you see the BTS vid of Dafne Keen's screen test? The girl quite literally did an improvisation of the scene they gave her with a mix of Spanish and English.
This whole movie is incredibly emotional but man does the scene where Logan buries Charles just shatter me. He's just so broken. All he can mumble out is that this place "has water" as some small way to connect to what he really wanted for him and Charles. Their boat, the Sunseeker, where they could live out their days out on the sea, far away from everyone. No longer persecuted or drugged, finally free and maybe at peace.... but thats gone now... and this is the best he can do... it has water.
It is so refreshing to watch a reaction that goes beyond, "That was dope!". You guys always provide a thoughtful analysis and clearly appreciate all of the elements of filmmaking. I am so glad I found your channel. Thanks for all of your hard work. Can't wait to see more!
You need to check out the behind the scenes interview with Hugh Jackman talking about Daphne Keen's audition for Laura. It was the scene when she was hitting him in the car. That's what sold them on her because she had to go toe to toe in acting with Hugh and Patrick. They were blown away by her. She also did a lot of her own moves because at that age, she was already an accomplished gymnast and martial artist.
I watched the original 90s X-Men animated series. They did a lot of prophetic dark future timelines they wanted to avoid. It feels weird to be literally living through the years those things occur.
seeing Professor X jump right back into his role as soon as Laura came along is the first thing that made me cry. This man's purpose in life wisped away and bc of it his mental deterioration got worse. He became senile and incoherent, and then this little girl. Logan's daughter comes along and he goes right back to who he was. This man's purpose came back
The kid who flips the truck isn't based on Magneto or Jean actually. His name is Richter, as you can see in the note left for Logan. If you look closely he's not actually lifting the truck with telekinesis or metal control, he's controlling the earth underneath the truck to launch it. He's a geokinetic, he can control the earth. Richter, as in Richter Scale. Also, the kid with the Electric powers isn't based on Storm, but on Christopher Bradley, Dominic Monahan's character from Wolverine: Origins movie. He could control electricity and electronic devices. You can see his name amongst the list of genetic donors in the clips from the labs.
Man, this movie hit's right in the feels so hard. The little girl that played Laura did such a great job playing her. I am really glad they chose to make this rated R it allowed them to show and tell so much more about the world and characters.
I have too many thoughts at cross purposes to express how Patrick Stewart's portrayal of dementia affected my own relationship with my father as he succumbed to Alzheimer's. My dad died the winter after this film was released, but watching it allowed me some emotional space to process his decline.
Love your reaction guys, let me clarify a little about the poisoning, Logan's healing factor was protecting him from Metal poisoning, which he would be exposed to if this was real life, this is why he was the only candidate that could accept the adamantium bonding process. Now that his healing factor is in such a weakened state, the adamantium poisoning is slowly killing him, it's just a matter of time.
Happy Birthday, Ari! "Logan" is one of the best superhero movies ever made! It was Oscar-nominated for Best Adapted Screenplay (the first superhero movie to do it ever), but Hugh Jackman and Sir Patrick Stewart definitely deserved Oscar nominations for their performances and Dafne Keen's Laura was equal parts vulnerable and badass.When I first saw it, I swear there were some onion-cutting ninjas in the theater. I'm definitely counting the days until "Deadpool 3," but not as much as Jackman & Ryan Reynolds are. Some more suggestions: "Van Helsing," " Prisoners," "Watchmen" (the Director's cut),"X2"(which features Lady Deathstrike, whom Denise was referring to), "Krampus," "Violent Night" & "X-Men: First Class," which has a very memorable Wolverine cameo. ❌
LOGAN is a Top 3 all-time superhero movie for me. It feels a lot like a modern western. Excellent reaction. Though if you're ever in the mood for romance, please consider reacting to Before Sunrise (1995), Before Sunset (2004) & Before Midnight (2013) - The Before Trilogy, all directed by Richard Linklater and starring Ethan Hawke & Julie Delpy. Can't recommend them enough.
X-23(Laura) and Wolverine are among my all time favourite comic book characters. In the comics the same program that made Wolverine wanted to clone Wolverine but part of the dna was corrupted so they made a female clone that became Laura/x-23. She was trained to be an assassin from birth.
I love how Denise was swearing more towards the end, you could really feel her emotions and anger coming through as she realised what was going to happen. Great reaction again. ❤❤❤
Such an extraordinary film. I'm just, well... beyond pleased (?) to share this one with you two. To tell this story, this well, standing apart from while existing within a HUGE, wandering, well-known narrative is a wonder. One of my favorite films of the past decade. Thanks! Here we go! :)
Such a fantastic film! I'm amazed they took the risk of giving us something with such a different tone in order to do this story right. Thank you for watching!
they basically ignored days of future past to make this movie. at the end of that movie everything changed and he no longer went through all of those experiments and never had the metal in his body. since this movie is better than days of future past i guess we can let that slide though. just sucks that he got a happy ending in that one and they undid that to give him this ending.
I shit you not, 52 year old Marine, Wolverine fan since I was 12, and I bawl my eyes out every time I watch this MASTERPIECE of a Wolvie Opus. Until Wolverine dies, Make Mine Marvel.
This movie had me in tears 😭 at the end. The very first solo theatrically released Logan/Wolverine that was rated a hard R showing audiences the long awaited Berserker rage that the comic book character is known for. The released trailers before the movies release did a great job with saving the surprise reveal of X-24 (which is really amazing when they do the reveal). This is my favourite of all the X Men or Solo Wolverine movies 🍿 James Mangold did a really great job here, which makes it a shame how he ended up with the mess that was Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny 😂
Fun fact: @ 1:00:43 when Logan holds Laura's hand, it's what Yukio's vision was in "The Wolverine" when she said he was on his back with his heart in his hand. The "heart" was Laura
in case you didnt know, laura, aka X-23, was created for the very underrated cartoon "x-men: evolution". in it, she was a clone of wolverine created by hydra in an attempt to replicate the weapon program. she is called X-23 because she was the 23rd clone of logan and the only one who was deemed a success. like harley quinn, X-23 was so popular that she made the jump from cartoons to the comics proper.
This movie left me in shambles. I am a comic nerd and over the years, Logan has met several ends, but this... this end destroyed me. The reason that the Adamantium was killing him, was because the mutant solution destroyed his healing factor which kept the poison under control. Hugh Jackman played an absolutely Perfect Wolverine. It was an incredibly and beautifully painful end. The end for Charles shocked and upset me so much that I actually stopped the movie and uttered "no, no, no, no" for about 10 minutes. Lol. But FML that it went there. Such an amazing and awesome film!! Beautiful reaction guys!! Cheers. 🥹🥹🥹
It's such a shame that genre movies are so often overlooked come award time. This movie deserves so much. There is a great clip on TH-cam of an audition/rehearsal (not sure which) of the car scene between young Dafne Keen and Hugh Jackman where she starts talking. I mean you expect Hugh to deliver a fantastic performance, however Dafne is a revelation for one so young. She's the daughter of performers, so obviously she's inherited that talent as well as absorbed it from being around productions.
I've been saying two things ever since this movie came out. One, this movie should have gotten either best picture or best actor on Hugh Jackman. Two, because of her performance in this movie, Dafnee Keen IS the only one to take up the mantle of Wolverine in future movies.
Totally agree on both your points. Hugh Jackman and dafne keen acted their asses off in this. Matter of fact I think this is the best performance I’ve ever seen from a child actor she was phenomenal!
@@EdwardBarat- No. Only his consciousness was sent back, not his body, and it returned to the present when they stopped Trask and the Sentinels. He did not relive 1973 - 2029 twice.
This and The Crow are my favorite "comic" movies by far. They did such a great job casting Dafne Keen as Laura too. It's easy to overlook, but the look on her face when crazed/drugged Logan shows up to help at the end is great visual storytelling, and she nailed it.
I think I recall that one of the radios in this movie said all of the X-Men had died at once. I think it was implied that Xavier accidentally killed them all. Logan also had a moment like that in one comic when Mysterio fooled him into believing he was in a room with all his worst enemies but the enemies he attacked were his allies.
@@OfficialMediaKnights I just got to the part where y’all heard it in the movie and then saw Charles act out. Someone once said you get to be a kid twice. Once when you’re young and once when you’re old.
Not hard to imagine. He shut down most of Vegas with a seizure. Imagine if he instead suffered an episode of dementia and forgot who or where he was and actively used his powers against everyone
@@jonmcnamara A psychic villain named Onslaught was born of Xavier’s dark thoughts at one point. It became a threat the entirety of marvel comics had to join together for.
@@JakkFrost1 You're absolutely right. The B&W version completely changes the tone, actually becoming artistic with each framed shot. As a photographer, it's stunning to see.
Logan's mutation is healing. The adamantium is added to them. Sabre tooth can heal, Hulk heals, a ton of characters have accelerated healing. It's one of the most common powers in comics, up there with flight and super strength.
Did you watch Xmen Origins Wolverine? In the "Adamantium Injection Scene" there are three people at the controls: William Stryker, Sarah Kinney, & Dale Rice. William Stryker had a son called Jason. Both of them died in X2. Dale Rice had a son called Zander. According to the comics Dale Rice died when Logan Beserker raged his way out of Alkalie Lake (accursed place) in Xmen Origins however, he survived long enough to give William Stryker the Adamantium bullets and specialized gun. What became of him after that is unknown. Zander came to take over the research wing Alkali Lake, was unable to duplicate The Wolverine after twenty-two attempts, but then found a way to supress the mutant X gene in the general public. He then found a way to Frankenstein a clone of Logan together X-24. Both Zander and X-24 died in the movie Logan (as you just saw). Sarah Kinney came up with the idea of cloning Logan but "leaving out" the damaged Y chromosone that was giving them so much trouble and just make an XX clone instead. Her boss (Zander) was jealous of the idea (as it wasn't he who came up with it) and forced Sarah to be X-23's surrogate mother. At a very young age 'they' torture initiated Laura's powers and trained a Rage-Trigger into her via a special scent. In this way Zander makes Laura kill Sarah. This incident is exclusively in the comics, no mention of it is made of in the movies. Laura survives the movie Logan and goes on into Canada (spoiler alert)
I used to watch X-Men Evolution, from beginning to end actually. Great show. It created the X-23 character without having her in comics before. She became popular and was incorporated into comics afterwards.
@@SSD_Penumbradid they recently change something with Lady Deathstrike? Cause she’s a human cyborg with adamantium cybernetic enhancements, not a clone of Wolverine.
@@surlycanadian X2 and some of the older comics once had her as a genetic clone of Wolverine. They've since changed her to what you know of now to differentiate her with Laura and Gabby, who is technically a clone of Laura who is also a clone of Logan.
@@SSD_Penumbra I’ve known her as a human cyborg and the daughter of the man (Dr. Oyama) who invented the adamantium bonding process which led to Wolverine since the 1980’s. And that’s the decade she was created in. She has not “since been changed to differentiate her from Laura”. She’s been a non-mutant human cyborg for 40 years. I recommend you go find some 80’s and 90’s era comics with her appearing and give them a little read. She was born before her father even knew who Logan was, so she can’t be an already born clone of a person that Dr. Oyama didn’t yet know existed. Perhaps the god-awful Ultimate universe or another non-canon alternate universe they altered her origin, but in the canon comics, not a Wolverine clone. Ever. X2 doesn’t count as a reliable reference to anything. First of all, you’re going to have to refer me to the part where anyone in that movie says she’s a genetic clone of Wolverine. Second, Fox totally shit the bed with wolverine’s most important arch nemesis’. So even if X2 wrote her as a clone, look at how many characters they completely messed up in that mostly terrible franchise. They Fucked up Sabertooth…..twice. lady Deathstrike, Silver Samurai, The Reavers. Stryker had nothing to do with the adamantium experiment on Wolverine in the first place….. All crap in the movies compared to the comics, so we needn’t ever waste our time being concerned what any of them ever had to say about anything. So recap: A) Lady Deathstrike has never been a clone of Wolverine in the canon comic continuity, and B) you are either misremembering, or making up, or assuming based on nothing that X2 wrote Lady Deathstrike as a Wolverine Clone.
They wanted to have a cameo with Logan's half brother Sabertooth. But actor Liev Schreiber wasn't available due to scheduling conflicts. They never said who the boy Rictor, was talking to on the radio. But fans have speculated that it may have been a member of Alpha Flight, who are the Canadian equivalent of the X-Men in the comics. Even with the GMO foods suppressing new mutants, the original Alpha Flight members would have still been alive in that time.
This movie when i saw it literally rip my heart out but i loved every minute of it plus i wanna ask if you two are an item or just roommates coz your chemistry is awesome and wholesome and the way you bounce of each other is so great, sorry if too personal
@@OfficialMediaKnights good to know lol plus when you talk about the character from the last film and that she see’s Logan’s death I was like OMG I remember that and that it tied together, sooo good!
This is in my top 3 super hero movies of all time. And having this as Huge Jackmans retirement from the Wolverine Roll was perfect. Denise crying got to me , man. That was me on first watch. Happy Birthday Ari! And happy holidays!
It's so much better when a real director offers a real dramatic story, without polluting it with stupid humor. It's so much more cinema that we can appreciate.
Still remember seeing this movie in theaters and bawling after getting to my car. Such an amazing movie. Hope you guys watch Iron Giant or Dinosaur in the future.
It is _always_ a joy to see you two check out films together as a way to revisit old favourites. It makes periods of isolation a lot less oppressive, so I just wanted ta say thanks.
Thanks for the reaction and the upload. Hope you had a wonderful christmas. This movie is fantastic. Even though we have to say goodbye to one of our biggest heroes, that was really heartbreaking. But kudos to Dafne Keen as Laura / X-23. She did an amazing job and was only 12 years old at the time. I haven't checked yet how they bring Wolverine back for Deadpool 3 - or if it is even in the same time/timeline. A part of me would love to see Logan return, but then again this movie was the perfect send-off for the character.
If the movie wasn't heart-breaking enough I also watched Denise & Ari cry which TDL I cant handle. In saying that, its a testament to the brilliant storytelling. You guys are awesome. Happy New year to you and yours ❤
The R rating is exactly what i needed from wolverine the whole time. I'm glad they gave us at least one, but damn did it leaving me wishing for more. At least we have deadpool.
I was under the impression that whatever happened in THE WOLVERINE in Japan is what diminished his healing factor, when the old Japanese guy tried to drain Logan. But it may also be whatever they're now putting in the water to stop mutant births. That being said, if THE WOLVERINE connection IS true, that's one of two references to that movie in this one... the second one being when he's holding onto his daughter at the very end.
@@causerDAguv Yeah someone had to re-apply the adamantium to his claws (though it does show him running into Magneto who was able to rip it out of his skeleton in the comics. Maybe Magneto did something similar to coat his claws?). They also get adamantium completely wrong in most of these movies. The metal is indestructible so it doesn't spark. It also can't be penetrated by other adamantium, it would simply deflect without damaging either source. In this movie it gets penetrated by steel (the plow thing X-24 gets thrown into), other adamantium (claws and bullet), and finally wood (he gets impaled through adamantium coated ribs), all of which aren't possible if you take the metal as written. There's a bunch of plot holes but otherwise it's a great movie.
@@nimz8521You realize that getting impaled doesn’t involve penetrating the bones, right? The only thing that they possibly get wrong is the adamantium bullet penetrating the skull.
@@Parallax-3D And even if there are bones involved, they are not fused together. Every bone in human body is joined together by joints and ligaments and so on so that they can move (limbs) and stretch (breathing). If wolverine gets impaled from his chest, it does not mean the wood would go through his ribs, the wood would push them aside and rip them out of their sockets where they should rest against the sternum or spine. His bones may be indestructible but he can have dislocated joints and so on. Otherwise he couldn't even move and barely be able to breathe.
One of the best comic book movies of all time! It was almost a flawless film. If it weren't for the exposition scene with the phone recording, the movie would be a 10/10; that’s the only bad written scene. In that scene, Gabriela, with that shitty phone, was able to record voice through walls, get into places to record classified information that she wouldn't have access to, and record scenes almost in front of Pierce and Dr. Rice, and they didn't even notice. Outside of that scene, the acting, cinematography, score, and writing of the rest of the movie are amazing. It’s a 9/10 for me. And this is the only movie where Wolverine FINALLY has his berserker rage. I loved that scene and Hugh Jackman scream gave me goosebumps when I first watch it. 23:05 Pierce told Logan that he left him where Calaban was going to left him, so Logan assumed he died. 24:53 About this, in X-Men Apocalypse post credit scene is when they showed that they took Logan’s blood. And yes, Charles is insanely powerful, and so is most of the X-Men, most of them are ridiculously OP, but the X-Men movies never did them justice, they only cared about Wolverine, Professor X, and Magneto, but everyone else was done dirty with the exception of Quicksilver which they actually improved, but Cyclops is the leader of the X-Men and in the movies he was trash, Storm is also the leader a lot of times and an omega level mutant, and sure I get that comic book feats are just ridiculous for live action so I get that you have to nerf the characters, but the Fox movies did all of them so dirty because they were REALLY nerf. Even Cyclops that a lot of people that only knows about the movies think he is a joke, and he has gone toe to toe with Wolverine, he is underrated, and he is the Steve Rogers of the X-Men. Back in 2018 I would’ve been exited for the X-Men to get into the MCU, now with how bad and inconsistent the MCU is, I don’t have any expectations. 55:22 No need for R rated, Iceman is an Omega Level mutant, he is ridiculous powerful. Like I said, they did dirty to most of the X-Men. I have some expectations for Deadpool 3 because they gave Ryan full control, so I have some expectation, but I’ve read rumors of a lot of cameos which I hope aren’t true because I don’t want this to be another cameo feast like MoM, I hope the script is good written.
If you think about it, Logan definitely had no problem with dying. Wolverine is probably the X-Men character who's had to suffer the most. He's been around since the 1800s and has spent his entire life fighting every war and losing everybody he loved. The man literally doesn’t know what a happy life looks like. In the part where Logan ignored the doctor’s warning that he’s dying, he most likely thought "Good, it's finally happening." So for Logan, him dying is probably the best thing that's ever happened to him. He can finally get the peace he's been dreaming of for decades.
For denise....some background about Charles. The Westchester Incident was an event that occurred in 2028 of the revised timeline. After developing a degenerative brain disease, Charles Xavier had a telepathic seizure and lost control of his powers, sending out increasingly strong pulses of psyonic energy causing six hundred people to be injured and the deaths of several members of the X-Men, in addition to the permanent destruction of Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters. As a result, the U.S. government declared Charles Xavier's brain a "weapon of mass destruction"
If you guys haven't already, you should watch Upgrade (2018). Also brutal, futuristic, and it's basically Venom before Venom came out, and if Venom was actually good. Damn good watch. Hope you see this comment!
@@OfficialMediaKnights Sweet! I promise you won't be disappointed. Also, I don't know if you guys do this, but check out the Red Band trailer too beforehand. I'd love to see your reactions to it as well.
@2:42 When I saw Stephen Merchant’s name in the opening credits, I was not expecting the very well played dramatic performance that he gave as Caliban. His comedic background, working with Ricky Gervais and Karl Pilkington, made me wonder who he was going to play and how well he was going to do. He did an amazing job and I was quickly reminded of how good comedic actors can be in dramatic roles.
This isn't some dumb "superhero" movie. This film was a piece of art. With a realistic view of if mutants lived among us, how it play out. Patrick Stewart is a tour deforce. Dafne Keen as X-23 was stellar for a young actor. But Hugh Jackman was the GOAT. The pain emotionally he showed us as this character was truly spell binding. [Edit] And Caliban was played by Stephen Merchant. A British comedian and actor who is the co-creator of a little know UK show, "The Office". You should check it out. 😏 Thank you so much for reviewing this film. Seeing your channel grow is exciting and as a middle aged cinephile, I'm getting the biggest kick out of your reactions. You two are total rock stars. And Happy Birthday, Ari!!!!
18:14 My woman X-23! She was introduced in the Marvel animated series, "X-Men: Evolution!" She became so popular, Marvel added her to the comics. It was so satisfying seeing X-23 in this movie! 🙏🏽💪
Seeing this movie again has made me tear up just like when i had first saw it. Seeing Logan in the end temporarily going back to his usual self brought me happiness. It brings back the memories of how he used to be and my favorite childhood superhero going wild and all out. Seeing him die the first time was like a life lesson for me. All good things have to come to an end but we can keep it alive through our memories.
This movie was the last movie I saw with my mother before she died. She and I loved Wolverine.. so everytime I rewatch this film.. I remember how happy she was to spend time with me..
22:18 Yeah, that's Lady Deathstrike. In the comics, she's a cyborg with robotic claws. She did this to herself because she wanted revenge on Wolverine. The movies kind retcon her to be a mutant instead. Not sure why, but I'm assuming because they didn't want to confuse the audience
The kid who dropped the car on X-24 (Logan clone) is Rictor, his power is earth manipulation, he flipped the car by lifting it with the earth under it. Not related to Magneto or Jean Grey, his genetic father is a guy called Avalanche who could create seismic waves to cause earthquakes.
I have not seen a woman reactor who enjoyed the Laura fight scenes as much if not more than I do. And best of all, you came up with the most epic description for X23 - the little dearh machine. Congratulations you guys earned a subscriber 😊
Man I still feel extreme sadness from this movie. Seeing my childhood go was too much. I remember not being able to watch it until it came on my fire stick. Waited til the summer of that year to watch it. I had already been dealing with depression being two years removed from teenage life and deep into adult life. Shit is still tough at 28 but shit was way heavy by the time I got to 21. That’s how old I was when this came out too. For me, this movie was a wake up call that I didn’t realize until I turned 28. 3 things I got from this movie were don’t live off pain, it’s you vs you and find your peace. Hopefully a physical peace before spiritual.
Love when he looks at the camera, knowing what will happen, and knowing what her reaction will be like he is so excited to share this with her, but doesn't want to spoil the experience
I just wanted to point out something that had not been spoken about: When Logan says "So, this is what it feels like", I believe he meant both the sensation of dying and feeling like a parent. The film had a family dynamic interwoven in the story (the family with the horses, the nurse with Laura acting as her mother, etc.). Since Logan (along with Caliban) took care of Charles, much like someone caring for an elderly, sickly parent, he responds to Laura when she says "Daddy". I felt he finally knew what it was to be a parent, feeling the love from someone.
There is one more thing that sometimes we forget about Logan and the healing factor: not only the Adamantium Poisoning him but also giving it a boost by keeping him in permanent healing mode
This is absolutely the BEST superhero movie. Between Logan and the 2 Deadpool films there is no arguement that superhero movies are just better when they are R rated.
Happy birthday Ari! Great choice, B T Dubs. This is still the only superhero film I've ever seen that absolutely CRUSHED me emotionally, but it's full of so many amazing performances and fascinating ideas. It was the best way for Hugh Jackman to end his two-decade stint as Logan/Wolverine.
fun fact: the pinecone girl (the one in the beanie who attacked those guys with pine needles) was actually dafne keen (laura's) stunt double, but everyone liked her so much that james mangold decided to give her a role! I know this is late, but i'm so glad you did this movie, and i cannot wait for you guys to do deadpool and wolverine!!! whether it be a review or reaction :))
It was great watching this again with you two. Regarding the adamantium poisoning, it was simply that the metal was in him. It was always poisoning him, but his healing factor has been constantly countering it. Eventually his healing factor was just so exhausted that he began falling apart. Had he still had his natural bone claws, he'd be immortal. But now, we know there is a similar expiration date on Laura as well.
Wow you guys. Great video. Watching this with yall was in some ways better than if rewatched by myself. Amidst the tears. Moments like 18:00 are so funny. Joy of a moment shared with someone experiencing it for the first time
When Logan said "So this is what it feels like" That was very heartbreaking 💔.
Man...don't remind us 😭
Mine was when Laura said, then I'll be fine. Ugh
And the Laura says "Daddy..." 😭
@@OfficialMediaKnights Adamantium is toxic, but because of Logan’s and Laura’s healing abilities, it was never an issue. However, as Logan is likely over two hundred years old, his body no longer heals like it once did and the adamantium was slowly killing him.
@@williambryan3346No. A lot of people seemed to miss in the movie that anti-mutant chemicals were being put into the GMO food that everyone ate. There’s hints of this throughout the movie and even some dialogue from the bad guy scientist about it.
This “cure” additive suppressed the mutant gene and is why mutant births are stopping and why Logan’s regenerative abilities are becoming weaker, leading to his sudden aging and possible adamantium poisoning actually effecting him now.
The everyday food and drinks he consumed were killing him. This could also be part of the reason why Charles Xavier was losing control of his powers as well.
This movie made everyone cry at the end. But at least Logan didn't go down without a fight.
He wanted peace after all these years of survival.
A fighter till the end! 😭
good thing i wasn't there then because i would have just swapped his head with the logan clone's body.
@@thecraftmasqueworth a try! lol
@@JokerInk-CustomBuilds yeah heck he's not getting any more dead
I remember, when the film ended in the theatre, all of us just got up silency, no words, no laught, nothing, just sniffing, crying...me too.
Dafne Keen's performance is probably the best child actor performance I have seen since Natalie Portman in Leon.
I thought the same thing while watching the movie and after, never thought i'd see someone with the exact same thought lol
These are my two favorite "kid performances" in movies
Although I love both performances you list, I gotta go with Haley Joel Osment in The Sixth Sense. I'm not trying to take anything away from Dafne Keen or Natalie Portman. I just think that in terms of all time great child actor performances, Osment's turn in The Sixth Sense deserves a mention.
It's one thing to be a supporting actor - much different as a co-star. Most child actors tend to annoy me, but I'll put some blame on the script and director. Freddie Boath (Alex in The Mummy Returns) was another whom entertained and did exactly what the part required.
Abigail Breslin Little Miss Sunshine like wtf are you smoking 😂
Ok... Do I need to mention Dakota Fanning in Man on Fire?
If I remember correctly, when Patrick Stewart and Hugh Jackman watched this at Cannes, they said they held hands during it and both were in tears at the end. Best performances by these two men who brought these characters to life for us.
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They weren't just in tears, they were embracing and sobbing and the crowd turned for a 5 minute standing ovation to them. It was beautiful.
That stick cross getting pivoted to an “X” gets me every time.
There rests Logan, last of the X-Men... 😢
had the x-men theme (Animated series) going through my mind.
When she turned the cross into an X got me man… it’s the perfect symbolism of saying, “Here lies the last X-Man”. 😢😢
Same here. If that moment doesnt get you, nothing can
His healing factor was gone
@@josephmcgee232The Adamantium which made him such powerful also slowly killed him!
@@josephmcgee232it wasn’t gone but it was so slowed down it was effectively gone
When she calls him daddy gets me.
Logan was 197 years old when he died... 1832- 2029
Legend never die 😢
Who wants to live forever?
@@menolikey_ No one. Being immortal can be a detriment to truly appreciating life.
@@somecallmejeremy I think the highlander tv series covers that quite well.
He was 247, he lived from 1832-2023 (191 years) but then time traveled back to 1973-2029, adding another 56 years, making him 247 years old when he died in Logan
The healing factor was one of the reasons Logan (James) was picked to have the Adamantium bonded to his skeleton. He was one of the few that could survive both physically and mentally through the trauma of the procedure. His healing factor is constantly dealing with the toxicity build up of the heaviest of metals in his body.
i think the was a hidden theory that it was modify food that was killing him and stopping new mutants from evolving
Matpat made a great Filmtheory about why he's dying i would recommend it.
There is one more thing that sometimes we forget about Logan and the healing factor: not only the Adamantium Poisoning him but also giving it a boost by keeping him in permanent healing mode.👍👍
His healing factor actually also had an unintended detrimental effect at the end of the movie. People always say the serum didn't last long, but I just realized that's because it's a foreign contaminant in his body, so the very same healing factor that the serum kicked into high gear also worked to clear the serum from his system, despite it being beneficial.
its a mix of the metal and because of all of the dna altering chemicals the bad guys put into food and water. if i remember correctly they said it was put into corn surup, which is put into everything execpt for un processed water and meat from freshly killed animals.
My family saw ‘Logan’ during our darkest times. My late mother was suffering from dementia when half the family needed a break taking care of her. While half the family covered for us, my father and two brothers saw ‘Logan’ with me. Charles just reminded us of what our mom was going through. This was the hardest film we ever watched. We felt traumatized and injured after. We had to let time pass after we lost mom, before we could see the film again. As hard and heart-wrenching this film was for us, it is a masterpiece.
My condolences
if i remember correctly it was that the adamantium around his skeleton is in fact poisoning him slowly but his healing factor is keeping it at bay, now that his healing factor is getting weaker and slower, the adamantium poison is in fact slowly poisoning him over years
It's kinda sad that the adamantium that made him so unstoppable and iconic is also the reason he is dies. There is some comfort in knowing he was ready for it. He fought for such a long time ❤️
I came to make a similar comment about the Adamantium Poisoning.....
@@OfficialMediaKnights Its the same with Charles, over the years a profesor that took care of kids and rised them to be good...only to later lose control over his power becouse of a stroke affecting his health and killing all his friends and students in one blow.
I took it that the same way that the food tampering that prevented new mutants being born is also affecting wolverine’s healing abilities, since he’s obviously exposed to it as well
It was the terrigen mist that they introduced into the food terrigen is poison for mutants. His healing factor will never slow down but since he unknowingly was poisoning himself it was stopping his mutant powers.
Its also what started the war between mutants and inhumans.
"You're holding your own heart in your hand" Seeing that come to pass put me in tears.
That gets me mane 💔
It's an absolute crime Hugh wasn't even nominated for an Oscar for this performance.
The scene after Charles dies is incredibly powerful.
This film absolutely destroyed me when I first saw it. I grew up watching Hugh and Patrick portray Wolverine and Professor X from 2000 onward and this was definitely a devastating end of an era. The ending alone broke my heart with the father/daughter moment. Such an epic masterpiece. Rest in peace, Logan and Charles 💔 (glad they've been coming back for more films though ☺)
**made some edits to the timeline to better suit first-time watchers**
Also, for reference, this movie is NOT in the same timeline as X-Men Origins or X2. This is in the timeline of Apocalypse and the re-written past of Days of Future Past.
**POSSILBE SPOILERS**
I think the official timeline goes as follows (not including MCU related films)
- X-Men: First Class takes place in 1962
- X-Men Origins: Wolverine mostly takes place in 1979
- X-Men in 2000
- X2: X-Men United in 2003
- X-Men: The Last Stand in 2006
- The "Extended Cut" of The Wolverine in 2013
This is where the timeline gets a little re-write (The above films are still canon, but most are not directly in the same timeline)
- The "Rogue Cut" of X-Men: Days of Future Past is set in the future of 2023, with the past getting re-written in 1973
The only films directly connected to the films below are First Class and Days of Future Past
- X-Men Apocalypse takes place in 1983
- X-Men: The Dark Phoenix in 1992
- Deadpool takes place when it was released...(present day)...2016
- The New Mutants, from my knowledge, takes place in 2027
- Logan officially ends the timeline in 2029
- The "Super Duper Cut" of Deadpool 2, as with DP1, also takes place when it was released...(present day)...2018, but thanks to Deadpool shenanigans it's best to watch it after Logan.
If we were to include the MCU...(which would involve a more extended timeline that I could work on)...
- Deadpool & Wolverine would take place after the "Super Duper Cut" of DP2
This was so great, thank you for the timeline!! Honestly I've been so attached to Hugh Jackman and Patrick Stewart as these characters, it made it so much more heartbreaking to see where they ended up. But what a hard-hitting story!! It was truly incredible and such a moving story!
logan should have never had that metal in his body anymore. days of future past changed everything and he never went through all of those experiments.
@Jack_80 This was the ending of that divergent timeline, if it hadn't been corrected.
@@Jack_80 *SPOILERS* At the end of Days of Future Past, Stryker finds Logan's past self. In Apocalypse, the X-Men find Logan at Stryker's lab, so Wolverine still had those experiments done on him.
Dafne Keen is a damn revelation in this.
Everyone involved is at the top of their game.
It’s just heartbreakingly brilliant.
I'd love to see the Knights take on His Dark Materials...but probably not enough action for them.
She is great in that... Plus she works with James McAvoy
Fun fact: In a cast commentary for Logan, Patrick Stewart mentions that Laura's dialogue for the truck scene was completely improvised by Dafne. The writers originally scripted the scene to have as little dialogue as possible for Laura but they loved Dafne's performance so much that they kept it in.
What I LOVED about the hotel scene was the way that the soldiers were able to actually turn their gaze to Logan just before he butchered them. What a horrifying thought. Being able to see your imminent death and being able to do absolutely nothing about it. Charles has complete control of every single person in his immediate radius, and only Logan and Laura are able to fight it.
From the Wolverine fans to those who made "Logan", with sobbing tears in my eyes, THANK YOU. A thousand times THANK YOU.
I really loved the real world implications this movie had, “What happens when the man with a metal skeleton starts to rust?” “What happens when the smartest man in the world starts to lose his mind?”. Heartbreaking film, but an amazing one too
The food supply was tainted by genetically modified corn (syrup).
That's what wiped out the mutants and negated Logan's healing factor
@@fanboy270I'm pretty sure that only disrupted the birth probability of mutants, not the actual powers the mutants had.
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Rewatch & pay attention.
The comic lore has always been that Logan is effectively immortal.
Short of complete body annihilation he would live basically for a VERY long time, if not forever.
He was absolutely favorite character for a long time from my youth.
I don't care about all this like I used to but it does annoy me when modern twerps try to "reimagine" characters.
Now, the idea that the food is genetically poisoned is a way to get around his healing factor, and cause Prof X's power to go haywire.
Notice early on them showing Logan getting junk food snacks for Caliban, prof, & himself.
The people in the entertainment industry always blend bits of reality in with the fiction.
Our actual food supplies have also been tainted & are having all kinds of ill effects on us.
What happens when you give an angry preteen Freddy Krueger claws?
Yukio in 2013's The Wolverine predicted Logan's death. He would be on his back, blood everywhere, holding his heart in his hand. At the time, we thought it was literal. Now we know its metaphorical for Laura. ❤
I forgot all about that.
Wow that's so freaking cool!
@austinking2959Same director.
NO SHE DIDN'T WOULD Y'ALL QUIT SAYING THAT CORNY CRAP SHE LITERALLY MEANT WHAT SHE SAID. HIS HEART WAS IN HIS HAND, WHY WOULD SHE SAY AFTER THAT IT'S NOT BEATING JESUS CHRIST.
@@richardpage5812I'm sorry that we're more creative than you are and are capable of putting 2 and 2 together.
I saw Logan shortly after I watched my dad die of a heart attack, he passed in my arms. Logan's death and his goodbye to her, helped me process the grief. It was a very powerful movie for me at a dark time, and I am sure most who witnessed loss can relate. :)
My condolences
R.I.P.🙏🏾🙏🏾❤️❤️
The girl's performance was as near flawless as could be achieved. You could not have told me the storyline and made me accept it... but the performance SOLD IT.
She should have been the next wolverine
@@zachall101 I think in the comics she actually did become the next one.
@@Kiljaedenas I'm honestly hoping they fix this in the Deadpool and Wolverine movie. Dafne Keen did a great job of this particular character, but much like Hugh Jackman has really only portrayed Wolverine once, the comic character for X-23 would be very cool to see on screen.
Did you see the BTS vid of Dafne Keen's screen test? The girl quite literally did an improvisation of the scene they gave her with a mix of Spanish and English.
@@nimz8521spoiler alert: she was also amazing in Deadpool and Wolverine.
This whole movie is incredibly emotional but man does the scene where Logan buries Charles just shatter me. He's just so broken. All he can mumble out is that this place "has water" as some small way to connect to what he really wanted for him and Charles. Their boat, the Sunseeker, where they could live out their days out on the sea, far away from everyone. No longer persecuted or drugged, finally free and maybe at peace.... but thats gone now... and this is the best he can do... it has water.
It is so refreshing to watch a reaction that goes beyond, "That was dope!". You guys always provide a thoughtful analysis and clearly appreciate all of the elements of filmmaking. I am so glad I found your channel. Thanks for all of your hard work. Can't wait to see more!
You need to check out the behind the scenes interview with Hugh Jackman talking about Daphne Keen's audition for Laura. It was the scene when she was hitting him in the car. That's what sold them on her because she had to go toe to toe in acting with Hugh and Patrick. They were blown away by her. She also did a lot of her own moves because at that age, she was already an accomplished gymnast and martial artist.
"i'm he best at what I do, and what I do isnt very nice" Wolverine
Being a fan of Wolverine for a little more than 40 years...this movie never fails to bring the tears.
This is one of those movies that really shines in black and white. So crisp and so beautiful.
Hugh Jackman and Sir Patrick Stewart should've received Oscar nominations
you forgot about Daphne
I watched the original 90s X-Men animated series. They did a lot of prophetic dark future timelines they wanted to avoid. It feels weird to be literally living through the years those things occur.
seeing Professor X jump right back into his role as soon as Laura came along is the first thing that made me cry.
This man's purpose in life wisped away and bc of it his mental deterioration got worse. He became senile and incoherent, and then this little girl. Logan's daughter comes along and he goes right back to who he was. This man's purpose came back
Same it was such a sad but wholesome moment 😢
The R rating the story the acting the cinematography the score. Man I absolutely love this movie. Wish I could watch it again for the first time
The kid who flips the truck isn't based on Magneto or Jean actually. His name is Richter, as you can see in the note left for Logan. If you look closely he's not actually lifting the truck with telekinesis or metal control, he's controlling the earth underneath the truck to launch it. He's a geokinetic, he can control the earth. Richter, as in Richter Scale.
Also, the kid with the Electric powers isn't based on Storm, but on Christopher Bradley, Dominic Monahan's character from Wolverine: Origins movie. He could control electricity and electronic devices. You can see his name amongst the list of genetic donors in the clips from the labs.
32:55 Hats off to Sir Patrick Stewart. He is REALLY showing his acting talent in this one.
he always shows his acting talent, he is that good.
My favorite movie 🥺 the ending always gets me especially when Laura says to Logan "daddy" that broke me 😭
Man, this movie hit's right in the feels so hard. The little girl that played Laura did such a great job playing her. I am really glad they chose to make this rated R it allowed them to show and tell so much more about the world and characters.
I have too many thoughts at cross purposes to express how Patrick Stewart's portrayal of dementia affected my own relationship with my father as he succumbed to Alzheimer's. My dad died the winter after this film was released, but watching it allowed me some emotional space to process his decline.
You did good bro You did it good, hope you got better now 🍻
Love your reaction guys, let me clarify a little about the poisoning, Logan's healing factor was protecting him from Metal poisoning, which he would be exposed to if this was real life, this is why he was the only candidate that could accept the adamantium bonding process. Now that his healing factor is in such a weakened state, the adamantium poisoning is slowly killing him, it's just a matter of time.
Happy Birthday, Ari! "Logan" is one of the best superhero movies ever made! It was Oscar-nominated for Best Adapted Screenplay (the first superhero movie to do it ever), but Hugh Jackman and Sir Patrick Stewart definitely deserved Oscar nominations for their performances and Dafne Keen's Laura was equal parts vulnerable and badass.When I first saw it, I swear there were some onion-cutting ninjas in the theater. I'm definitely counting the days until "Deadpool 3," but not as much as Jackman & Ryan Reynolds are.
Some more suggestions: "Van Helsing," " Prisoners," "Watchmen" (the Director's cut),"X2"(which features Lady Deathstrike, whom Denise was referring to), "Krampus," "Violent Night" & "X-Men: First Class," which has a very memorable Wolverine cameo. ❌
LOGAN is a Top 3 all-time superhero movie for me. It feels a lot like a modern western. Excellent reaction. Though if you're ever in the mood for romance, please consider reacting to Before Sunrise (1995), Before Sunset (2004) & Before Midnight (2013) - The Before Trilogy, all directed by Richard Linklater and starring Ethan Hawke & Julie Delpy. Can't recommend them enough.
When he referenced the X-Men comics being so exaggerated, that was like the dime novels of the old west.
X-23(Laura) and Wolverine are among my all time favourite comic book characters. In the comics the same program that made Wolverine wanted to clone Wolverine but part of the dna was corrupted so they made a female clone that became Laura/x-23. She was trained to be an assassin from birth.
I love how Denise was swearing more towards the end, you could really feel her emotions and anger coming through as she realised what was going to happen. Great reaction again. ❤❤❤
Good news is, X-23 (Logan`s daughter) is coming back in Deadpool 3. She signed a contract right before the strike happened.
Such an extraordinary film. I'm just, well... beyond pleased (?) to share this one with you two. To tell this story, this well, standing apart from while existing within a HUGE, wandering, well-known narrative is a wonder. One of my favorite films of the past decade. Thanks! Here we go! :)
Such a fantastic film! I'm amazed they took the risk of giving us something with such a different tone in order to do this story right. Thank you for watching!
they basically ignored days of future past to make this movie. at the end of that movie everything changed and he no longer went through all of those experiments and never had the metal in his body.
since this movie is better than days of future past i guess we can let that slide though. just sucks that he got a happy ending in that one and they undid that to give him this ending.
Logan acknowledges X-Men Apocalypse. Logan killed Rice's father in that movie after he got the adamantium in his body
I shit you not, 52 year old Marine, Wolverine fan since I was 12, and I bawl my eyes out every time I watch this MASTERPIECE of a Wolvie Opus.
Until Wolverine dies, Make Mine Marvel.
'Until you're 90!'
This movie had me in tears 😭 at the end. The very first solo theatrically released Logan/Wolverine that was rated a hard R showing audiences the long awaited Berserker rage that the comic book character is known for. The released trailers before the movies release did a great job with saving the surprise reveal of X-24 (which is really amazing when they do the reveal). This is my favourite of all the X Men or Solo Wolverine movies 🍿 James Mangold did a really great job here, which makes it a shame how he ended up with the mess that was Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny 😂
Ending broke me when Laura called Logan, daddy.
Fun fact: @ 1:00:43 when Logan holds Laura's hand, it's what Yukio's vision was in "The Wolverine" when she said he was on his back with his heart in his hand. The "heart" was Laura
in case you didnt know, laura, aka X-23, was created for the very underrated cartoon "x-men: evolution". in it, she was a clone of wolverine created by hydra in an attempt to replicate the weapon program. she is called X-23 because she was the 23rd clone of logan and the only one who was deemed a success. like harley quinn, X-23 was so popular that she made the jump from cartoons to the comics proper.
This movie left me in shambles. I am a comic nerd and over the years, Logan has met several ends, but this... this end destroyed me. The reason that the Adamantium was killing him, was because the mutant solution destroyed his healing factor which kept the poison under control. Hugh Jackman played an absolutely Perfect Wolverine. It was an incredibly and beautifully painful end. The end for Charles shocked and upset me so much that I actually stopped the movie and uttered "no, no, no, no" for about 10 minutes. Lol. But FML that it went there. Such an amazing and awesome film!! Beautiful reaction guys!! Cheers. 🥹🥹🥹
It's such a shame that genre movies are so often overlooked come award time. This movie deserves so much.
There is a great clip on TH-cam of an audition/rehearsal (not sure which) of the car scene between young Dafne Keen and Hugh Jackman where she starts talking. I mean you expect Hugh to deliver a fantastic performance, however Dafne is a revelation for one so young. She's the daughter of performers, so obviously she's inherited that talent as well as absorbed it from being around productions.
I've been saying two things ever since this movie came out. One, this movie should have gotten either best picture or best actor on Hugh Jackman. Two, because of her performance in this movie, Dafnee Keen IS the only one to take up the mantle of Wolverine in future movies.
Totally agree on both your points. Hugh Jackman and dafne keen acted their asses off in this. Matter of fact I think this is the best performance I’ve ever seen from a child actor she was phenomenal!
One more thing, in the timeline, Logan is roughly 190 years old. opening of xmen origins wolverine took place around 1850, if I recall.
He also relived everything from 1973 and 50 years so technically he's pushing 300.
@@EdwardBarat- No. Only his consciousness was sent back, not his body, and it returned to the present when they stopped Trask and the Sentinels. He did not relive 1973 - 2029 twice.
This and The Crow are my favorite "comic" movies by far. They did such a great job casting Dafne Keen as Laura too. It's easy to overlook, but the look on her face when crazed/drugged Logan shows up to help at the end is great visual storytelling, and she nailed it.
Watch her audition footage and you'll see without a doubt she was perfect for the roll.
I think I recall that one of the radios in this movie said all of the X-Men had died at once. I think it was implied that Xavier accidentally killed them all.
Logan also had a moment like that in one comic when Mysterio fooled him into believing he was in a room with all his worst enemies but the enemies he attacked were his allies.
Yup! The Westchester incident 😞
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I just got to the part where y’all heard it in the movie and then saw Charles act out. Someone once said you get to be a kid twice. Once when you’re young and once when you’re old.
Not hard to imagine. He shut down most of Vegas with a seizure.
Imagine if he instead suffered an episode of dementia and forgot who or where he was and actively used his powers against everyone
He’s literally a walking weapon of mass destruction…such a curse for a man that only cared about protecting the mutants
@@jonmcnamara A psychic villain named Onslaught was born of Xavier’s dark thoughts at one point. It became a threat the entirety of marvel comics had to join together for.
I’m pretty sure the old western Shane was an inspiration for the story of Logan. Glad you guys liked it!
I love the noir-version of this movie, too. It REALLY enhances the cinematography and effective use of light, imho.
@@mrjason8666 Bluray, 4K discs, but some streaming services may have the Logan Noir version, too. Physical media ftw :)
@@mrjason8666yeah, a fully black and white cut was released, and it really enhances the old western/samurai movie feel of Logan.
@@JakkFrost1 You're absolutely right. The B&W version completely changes the tone, actually becoming artistic with each framed shot. As a photographer, it's stunning to see.
Logan's mutation is healing. The adamantium is added to them. Sabre tooth can heal, Hulk heals, a ton of characters have accelerated healing. It's one of the most common powers in comics, up there with flight and super strength.
"Not my circus, not my clowns." Damn I gotta remember that.
Did you watch Xmen Origins Wolverine? In the "Adamantium Injection Scene" there are three people at the controls: William Stryker, Sarah Kinney, & Dale Rice.
William Stryker had a son called Jason. Both of them died in X2.
Dale Rice had a son called Zander. According to the comics Dale Rice died when Logan Beserker raged his way out of Alkalie Lake (accursed place) in Xmen Origins however, he survived long enough to give William Stryker the Adamantium bullets and specialized gun. What became of him after that is unknown. Zander came to take over the research wing Alkali Lake, was unable to duplicate The Wolverine after twenty-two attempts, but then found a way to supress the mutant X gene in the general public. He then found a way to Frankenstein a clone of Logan together X-24. Both Zander and X-24 died in the movie Logan (as you just saw).
Sarah Kinney came up with the idea of cloning Logan but "leaving out" the damaged Y chromosone that was giving them so much trouble and just make an XX clone instead. Her boss (Zander) was jealous of the idea (as it wasn't he who came up with it) and forced Sarah to be X-23's surrogate mother. At a very young age 'they' torture initiated Laura's powers and trained a Rage-Trigger into her via a special scent. In this way Zander makes Laura kill Sarah. This incident is exclusively in the comics, no mention of it is made of in the movies. Laura survives the movie Logan and goes on into Canada (spoiler alert)
I used to watch X-Men Evolution, from beginning to end actually. Great show. It created the X-23 character without having her in comics before. She became popular and was incorporated into comics afterwards.
Technically, there's THREE x-23s. One is Laura, one is another female clone of Logan and one was later renamed to Lady Deathstrike.
@@SSD_Penumbradid they recently change something with Lady Deathstrike? Cause she’s a human cyborg with adamantium cybernetic enhancements, not a clone of Wolverine.
@@surlycanadian X2 and some of the older comics once had her as a genetic clone of Wolverine. They've since changed her to what you know of now to differentiate her with Laura and Gabby, who is technically a clone of Laura who is also a clone of Logan.
@@SSD_Penumbra I’ve known her as a human cyborg and the daughter of the man (Dr. Oyama) who invented the adamantium bonding process which led to Wolverine since the 1980’s. And that’s the decade she was created in. She has not “since been changed to differentiate her from Laura”. She’s been a non-mutant human cyborg for 40 years. I recommend you go find some 80’s and 90’s era comics with her appearing and give them a little read.
She was born before her father even knew who Logan was, so she can’t be an already born clone of a person that Dr. Oyama didn’t yet know existed. Perhaps the god-awful Ultimate universe or another non-canon alternate universe they altered her origin, but in the canon comics, not a Wolverine clone. Ever.
X2 doesn’t count as a reliable reference to anything. First of all, you’re going to have to refer me to the part where anyone in that movie says she’s a genetic clone of Wolverine. Second, Fox totally shit the bed with wolverine’s most important arch nemesis’. So even if X2 wrote her as a clone, look at how many characters they completely messed up in that mostly terrible franchise. They Fucked up Sabertooth…..twice. lady Deathstrike, Silver Samurai, The Reavers. Stryker had nothing to do with the adamantium experiment on Wolverine in the first place….. All crap in the movies compared to the comics, so we needn’t ever waste our time being concerned what any of them ever had to say about anything.
So recap: A) Lady Deathstrike has never been a clone of Wolverine in the canon comic continuity, and B) you are either misremembering, or making up, or assuming based on nothing that X2 wrote Lady Deathstrike as a Wolverine Clone.
@@surlycanadian That's a lot of text. Too bad I'm not reading it.
They wanted to have a cameo with Logan's half brother Sabertooth. But actor Liev Schreiber wasn't available due to scheduling conflicts. They never said who the boy Rictor, was talking to on the radio. But fans have speculated that it may have been a member of Alpha Flight, who are the Canadian equivalent of the X-Men in the comics. Even with the GMO foods suppressing new mutants, the original Alpha Flight members would have still been alive in that time.
Sabertooth will be in the new Deadpool & Wolverine movie. 😉
This movie when i saw it literally rip my heart out but i loved every minute of it plus i wanna ask if you two are an item or just roommates coz your chemistry is awesome and wholesome and the way you bounce of each other is so great, sorry if too personal
This is one of those movies where you know you’re gonna end up in tears but man it’s so good! And yes! We are married 😃
@@OfficialMediaKnights good to know lol plus when you talk about the character from the last film and that she see’s Logan’s death I was like OMG I remember that and that it tied together, sooo good!
This is in my top 3 super hero movies of all time. And having this as Huge Jackmans retirement from the Wolverine Roll was perfect. Denise crying got to me , man. That was me on first watch. Happy Birthday Ari! And happy holidays!
It's so much better when a real director offers a real dramatic story, without polluting it with stupid humor. It's so much more cinema that we can appreciate.
Still remember seeing this movie in theaters and bawling after getting to my car. Such an amazing movie.
Hope you guys watch Iron Giant or Dinosaur in the future.
It is _always_ a joy to see you two check out films together as a way to revisit old favourites. It makes periods of isolation a lot less oppressive, so I just wanted ta say thanks.
Thanks for the reaction and the upload. Hope you had a wonderful christmas. This movie is fantastic. Even though we have to say goodbye to one of our biggest heroes, that was really heartbreaking. But kudos to Dafne Keen as Laura / X-23. She did an amazing job and was only 12 years old at the time. I haven't checked yet how they bring Wolverine back for Deadpool 3 - or if it is even in the same time/timeline. A part of me would love to see Logan return, but then again this movie was the perfect send-off for the character.
I just found out that Deadpool 3 will take place BEFORE Logan
@Kick278 Thank you for checking. So that's clear then. There's no return for Logan after this then. But it was a perfect end, so that's alright.
If the movie wasn't heart-breaking enough I also watched Denise & Ari cry which TDL I cant handle. In saying that, its a testament to the brilliant storytelling. You guys are awesome. Happy New year to you and yours ❤
The R rating is exactly what i needed from wolverine the whole time. I'm glad they gave us at least one, but damn did it leaving me wishing for more.
At least we have deadpool.
One of the rare times I've shed tears in the theater here in Japan. I suppose I would have shed them anywhere.
I was under the impression that whatever happened in THE WOLVERINE in Japan is what diminished his healing factor, when the old Japanese guy tried to drain Logan. But it may also be whatever they're now putting in the water to stop mutant births. That being said, if THE WOLVERINE connection IS true, that's one of two references to that movie in this one... the second one being when he's holding onto his daughter at the very end.
Its a plot hole since you can't grow adamantium
@@causerDAguv Yeah someone had to re-apply the adamantium to his claws (though it does show him running into Magneto who was able to rip it out of his skeleton in the comics. Maybe Magneto did something similar to coat his claws?). They also get adamantium completely wrong in most of these movies. The metal is indestructible so it doesn't spark. It also can't be penetrated by other adamantium, it would simply deflect without damaging either source. In this movie it gets penetrated by steel (the plow thing X-24 gets thrown into), other adamantium (claws and bullet), and finally wood (he gets impaled through adamantium coated ribs), all of which aren't possible if you take the metal as written.
There's a bunch of plot holes but otherwise it's a great movie.
@@nimz8521You realize that getting impaled doesn’t involve penetrating the bones, right? The only thing that they possibly get wrong is the adamantium bullet penetrating the skull.
@@Parallax-3D And even if there are bones involved, they are not fused together. Every bone in human body is joined together by joints and ligaments and so on so that they can move (limbs) and stretch (breathing). If wolverine gets impaled from his chest, it does not mean the wood would go through his ribs, the wood would push them aside and rip them out of their sockets where they should rest against the sternum or spine.
His bones may be indestructible but he can have dislocated joints and so on. Otherwise he couldn't even move and barely be able to breathe.
One of the best comic book movies of all time! It was almost a flawless film. If it weren't for the exposition scene with the phone recording, the movie would be a 10/10; that’s the only bad written scene. In that scene, Gabriela, with that shitty phone, was able to record voice through walls, get into places to record classified information that she wouldn't have access to, and record scenes almost in front of Pierce and Dr. Rice, and they didn't even notice. Outside of that scene, the acting, cinematography, score, and writing of the rest of the movie are amazing. It’s a 9/10 for me.
And this is the only movie where Wolverine FINALLY has his berserker rage. I loved that scene and Hugh Jackman scream gave me goosebumps when I first watch it.
23:05 Pierce told Logan that he left him where Calaban was going to left him, so Logan assumed he died.
24:53 About this, in X-Men Apocalypse post credit scene is when they showed that they took Logan’s blood.
And yes, Charles is insanely powerful, and so is most of the X-Men, most of them are ridiculously OP, but the X-Men movies never did them justice, they only cared about Wolverine, Professor X, and Magneto, but everyone else was done dirty with the exception of Quicksilver which they actually improved, but Cyclops is the leader of the X-Men and in the movies he was trash, Storm is also the leader a lot of times and an omega level mutant, and sure I get that comic book feats are just ridiculous for live action so I get that you have to nerf the characters, but the Fox movies did all of them so dirty because they were REALLY nerf. Even Cyclops that a lot of people that only knows about the movies think he is a joke, and he has gone toe to toe with Wolverine, he is underrated, and he is the Steve Rogers of the X-Men. Back in 2018 I would’ve been exited for the X-Men to get into the MCU, now with how bad and inconsistent the MCU is, I don’t have any expectations.
55:22 No need for R rated, Iceman is an Omega Level mutant, he is ridiculous powerful. Like I said, they did dirty to most of the X-Men.
I have some expectations for Deadpool 3 because they gave Ryan full control, so I have some expectation, but I’ve read rumors of a lot of cameos which I hope aren’t true because I don’t want this to be another cameo feast like MoM, I hope the script is good written.
You guys rock! Love your reactions, thanks a lot
Thank you for showing some love and support! Stay awesome ❤️
If you think about it, Logan definitely had no problem with dying. Wolverine is probably the X-Men character who's had to suffer the most. He's been around since the 1800s and has spent his entire life fighting every war and losing everybody he loved. The man literally doesn’t know what a happy life looks like. In the part where Logan ignored the doctor’s warning that he’s dying, he most likely thought "Good, it's finally happening." So for Logan, him dying is probably the best thing that's ever happened to him. He can finally get the peace he's been dreaming of for decades.
From the moment the adamantine was put in his body his healing factor has been working nonstop ever since.
For denise....some background about Charles.
The Westchester Incident was an event that occurred in 2028 of the revised timeline. After developing a degenerative brain disease, Charles Xavier had a telepathic seizure and lost control of his powers, sending out increasingly strong pulses of psyonic energy causing six hundred people to be injured and the deaths of several members of the X-Men, in addition to the permanent destruction of Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters. As a result, the U.S. government declared Charles Xavier's brain a "weapon of mass destruction"
If you guys haven't already, you should watch Upgrade (2018). Also brutal, futuristic, and it's basically Venom before Venom came out, and if Venom was actually good. Damn good watch. Hope you see this comment!
That sounds promising! I’ve got my issues with Venom…if only they went all in like Logan…adding Upgrade to our list!
@@OfficialMediaKnights Sweet! I promise you won't be disappointed. Also, I don't know if you guys do this, but check out the Red Band trailer too beforehand. I'd love to see your reactions to it as well.
@2:42 When I saw Stephen Merchant’s name in the opening credits, I was not expecting the very well played dramatic performance that he gave as Caliban. His comedic background, working with Ricky Gervais and Karl Pilkington, made me wonder who he was going to play and how well he was going to do. He did an amazing job and I was quickly reminded of how good comedic actors can be in dramatic roles.
This isn't some dumb "superhero" movie. This film was a piece of art. With a realistic view of if mutants lived among us, how it play out. Patrick Stewart is a tour deforce. Dafne Keen as X-23 was stellar for a young actor. But Hugh Jackman was the GOAT. The pain emotionally he showed us as this character was truly spell binding.
[Edit] And Caliban was played by Stephen Merchant. A British comedian and actor who is the co-creator of a little know UK show, "The Office".
You should check it out. 😏
Thank you so much for reviewing this film. Seeing your channel grow is exciting and as a middle aged cinephile, I'm getting the biggest kick out of your reactions. You two are total rock stars.
And Happy Birthday, Ari!!!!
18:14 My woman X-23! She was introduced in the Marvel animated series, "X-Men: Evolution!" She became so popular, Marvel added her to the comics. It was so satisfying seeing X-23 in this movie! 🙏🏽💪
One of the best movie intros ever. Dont think anything will ever top the one in Gladiator for me. But this is up there
The greatest X men movie ever made. I loved it! Still cry when i watch it!
Hugh Jackman coming back in deadpool is so much fun but this movie was the best ending for him
Seeing this movie again has made me tear up just like when i had first saw it. Seeing Logan in the end temporarily going back to his usual self brought me happiness. It brings back the memories of how he used to be and my favorite childhood superhero going wild and all out. Seeing him die the first time was like a life lesson for me. All good things have to come to an end but we can keep it alive through our memories.
This movie was the last movie I saw with my mother before she died. She and I loved Wolverine.. so everytime I rewatch this film.. I remember how happy she was to spend time with me..
22:18 Yeah, that's Lady Deathstrike. In the comics, she's a cyborg with robotic claws. She did this to herself because she wanted revenge on Wolverine. The movies kind retcon her to be a mutant instead. Not sure why, but I'm assuming because they didn't want to confuse the audience
The kid who dropped the car on X-24 (Logan clone) is Rictor, his power is earth manipulation, he flipped the car by lifting it with the earth under it. Not related to Magneto or Jean Grey, his genetic father is a guy called Avalanche who could create seismic waves to cause earthquakes.
I have not seen a woman reactor who enjoyed the Laura fight scenes as much if not more than I do. And best of all, you came up with the most epic description for X23 - the little dearh machine.
Congratulations you guys earned a subscriber 😊
Man I still feel extreme sadness from this movie. Seeing my childhood go was too much. I remember not being able to watch it until it came on my fire stick. Waited til the summer of that year to watch it. I had already been dealing with depression being two years removed from teenage life and deep into adult life. Shit is still tough at 28 but shit was way heavy by the time I got to 21. That’s how old I was when this came out too. For me, this movie was a wake up call that I didn’t realize until I turned 28. 3 things I got from this movie were don’t live off pain, it’s you vs you and find your peace. Hopefully a physical peace before spiritual.
Love when he looks at the camera, knowing what will happen, and knowing what her reaction will be like he is so excited to share this with her, but doesn't want to spoil the experience
I just wanted to point out something that had not been spoken about: When Logan says "So, this is what it feels like", I believe he meant both the sensation of dying and feeling like a parent. The film had a family dynamic interwoven in the story (the family with the horses, the nurse with Laura acting as her mother, etc.). Since Logan (along with Caliban) took care of Charles, much like someone caring for an elderly, sickly parent, he responds to Laura when she says "Daddy". I felt he finally knew what it was to be a parent, feeling the love from someone.
It's really sad to see Prof X and Logan end their lives like that. Their grave only in random forest 💔
There is one more thing that sometimes we forget about Logan and the healing factor: not only the Adamantium Poisoning him but also giving it a boost by keeping him in permanent healing mode
Well, now we have Deadpool and Wolverine's opening scene to make this film's ending scene feel a little less heartbreaking.
#ByeByeByeLogan
This is absolutely the BEST superhero movie. Between Logan and the 2 Deadpool films there is no arguement that superhero movies are just better when they are R rated.
When i watched this movie for the first time, i held my tears back all the way until laura said "daddy." That broke. I literally started sobbing.
Happy birthday Ari! Great choice, B T Dubs. This is still the only superhero film I've ever seen that absolutely CRUSHED me emotionally, but it's full of so many amazing performances and fascinating ideas. It was the best way for Hugh Jackman to end his two-decade stint as Logan/Wolverine.
1:01:33 I love the fact that the child had a Wolverine action figure! 🙏🏽💪
fun fact: the pinecone girl (the one in the beanie who attacked those guys with pine needles) was actually dafne keen (laura's) stunt double, but everyone liked her so much that james mangold decided to give her a role! I know this is late, but i'm so glad you did this movie, and i cannot wait for you guys to do deadpool and wolverine!!! whether it be a review or reaction :))
It was great watching this again with you two.
Regarding the adamantium poisoning, it was simply that the metal was in him. It was always poisoning him, but his healing factor has been constantly countering it. Eventually his healing factor was just so exhausted that he began falling apart. Had he still had his natural bone claws, he'd be immortal. But now, we know there is a similar expiration date on Laura as well.
Wow you guys. Great video. Watching this with yall was in some ways better than if rewatched by myself.
Amidst the tears. Moments like 18:00 are so funny. Joy of a moment shared with someone experiencing it for the first time