for someone who states he is a casual, he actually has an excellent grasp of Zombies, and his analysis of the series and maps is thorough and apt. I'm fairly impressed with this guy's perspective
Cold War may not be as amazing as bo3, but it’s innovations and simplicity for beginners are seriously underrated. I know a lot of people who disliked zombies previously actually enjoyed Cold War zombies a lot compared to bo3 - bo4
They weren’t trying to make it good for beginners they just wanted all the Warzone players to start playing zombies. that’s why it’s good for those players and complete ass for true zombies players
Cold war is what got me into zombies and I have been stuck to zombies since, I only play bo3 and rarely play cold war now. Cold war zombies was aight but the ee were to easy to do. I wish the difficulty was like the first outbreak ee but even with 4 people that still felt easy
The way you just reminisce, talk and mention so many other zombies youtubers makes this video so good. It honestly feels like a video straight out of the Golden age of zombies.
Thanks I found what bro was sayin pretty interesting at first and assumed it was just a short intro to give context but when you get fucking 19 minutes in and he still hasn't mentioned the whole point you click on the video you start to get a bit annoyed. Like bruh I clicked to hear a first players tier list not him waffling for 40 minutes on random unconnected zombie takes.
I was actually going to donate asking you to watch this because the effort that David puts into his video essay's are incredible, so glad you watched this
9:35 I have never felt such anxiety in the span of 10 seconds… imagine your on Kino and you go to Pack-a-Punch. Down while teleporting and as soon as you do… you wake up in Tranzit!
Lex is by far in my opinion the best zombies TH-camr, he’s the only zombies TH-camr I still watch, he stays consistent with his theme and vibe for the love of zombies and true understanding of what makes cod zombies nostalgic and a understanding of his fans and interaction with his fans, he’s a big face that still to this day hold strong on the zombies franchise, he’s the reason I got back into zombies, he gave me a re motivation to play zombies again. Cold War zombies in my opinion is a 5/10 it’s ehhh it’s just ehhh to me and vanguard I played like 1 game for like 10 minutes and I was like alright I’m bored, the developers need to really watch these type of videos and really understand what the zombie fans want, yes there is gonna be hate still and a handful of people that are gonna complain and the past few years games are tryna appeal to the new players that don’t know about old zombies, or older games in whatever franchise it is, they need to stick to there old roots they can do new stuff but just stick to creativity and passion, the mystery and enjoyment. Zombies won’t be good again if there not having fun making the game, but if there interacting with the community and enjoying the development of zombies and put passion back into zombies and bring back what made zombies we will see zombies come back!!
I remember a quote from his stream of voyage round 100. "You have a wonder weapon, and a kraken" They nerfed the mog but the helion literally carried bo4 high rounds 😂😂
@@vilmnil1420 dude I know 😂😂 shotgun is too op but the rocket launcher is just fine. Although it was the first time cod zombies had am actual good rocket launcher Bo4 was also heavily slept on tbh
@@analteredone9485 there were a lot of ideas that would've made bo4 really great, but for one reason or the other they didn't happen. Obviously there are tons of factors to why things didn't make the cut, so lets leave that alone but I feel as if a lot of the ideas they had could've been executed perfectly given the right time and circumstances.
4:58 Destiny Raids comes close, but ultimately isn’t as complex as the entire point of a raid is to beat it every time. But day one raid runs feel exactly like easter egg hunts. Both searching for mechanics and secrets and fun as hell to do.
This literally came to mind too and also your exact same opinion, like imagine being day 1 atheon, you would have absolutely NO idea what tf to do😭😂 but in the end we will beat that raid 12 times a month, zombie easter eggs we do every once in awhile cause they're so hard
It’s funny to me how lex literlay said “Five is hard as fuck” then immediately says he thinks casuals wouldn’t hate it, Casuals would absolutely HATE it
I'm not a high rounder, I'd say I'm between that and a casual but shi no numa was and still is honestly my favorite waw map and honestly just because of good aesthetic and good map design. I've never not had fun on shi no numa personally
Chat really showing their age not knowing "staves" is the plural for "staff" and roasting him about it lol. Guess they haven't covered that in 6th grade English yet.
14:55 What he's speaking about here used to happen to me all the time when I would play chess. The way the peices move, the strategy, I would literally have dreams of these things over and over almost like he said. My brain was engraving chess like moves into real life strategies. It was a very odd but enlightening experience and I'm pretty sure is exactly what lex is talking about only on "zombies movement" context. Not sure if i explained this correctly but I tried. Good day.
24:59 This is exactly why I loved Moon so much on release. Every map was a crazy surprise as to where we'd be, what we'd be doing, and what they'd add. Then DLC 4 rolls around and says "Hey, we wanted to play on the moon, so we made Moon. There are zombies on the fucking moon, have fun." There was just a completely different energy back then, like we were getting so much more than we ever expected and the devs loved doing it.
I’d really love to know when so many people switched on Revelations I remember when it was the most hated map because it was completely recycled random Easter egg steps and the worst boss fight and it was what treyarch was saying the end of zombies at the time I believe it aged the worst out of all bo3 maps I think it’s just the bo3 nostalgia that has people saying it’s a good map
Agreed. Rev is not a good map. We thought it would be amazing to have a map that has sections of old maps stuck together but it just didn’t flow well in Rev. idk maybe it was implemented poorly on Treyarch’s part.
I liked rev always but I never did the Easter egg so I can't give a full review of it. But I had a lot of fun playing it at the time. though I'd usually only get as far as making the shield, getting masks, pap, etc then just see how long I could survive
I like how it took youtubers to hate on tranzit for the community to hate on tranzit yet this guy who never played zombies before instantly sees the bad gameplay of tranzit
The feeling of being a god in multiplayer is an absolute blast, your unstoppable, grounding up bodies around you while you destroy people with you flying machine and dogs. I almost had a 3 KD in BO1 and It was still my favorite multiplayer to this day.
The map design I noticed is similar to the one he says, I see it as more a "rule of three" where you have the start area which then branches out to 3 main areas. This really only works in some maps, but the maps that it works on are usually ranked high; Der Reise, Shadows, GK, Shi No(which isn't ranked high), Ascension, etc.
This is why Mob is such an amazing map: - 3 distinct areas (the prison itself, the docks/catacomb area, and the bridge) - 3 Cerberus heads to feed - 3 major upgrades to obtain (Acid gat, Retriever, spoon/spork) - 3 traps spread out evenly - An achievement for making it to the bridge 3 times in one game - Shield and acid kit requiring 3 parts - Most areas with afterlife having 3 realistically do-able power meters to charge (i.e warden key, door, double points) The rule of 3 is in nearly every part of any great zombies map.
My first memory of gaming was bo2 town with my brothers when I was 8. 8 years later and it is still lodged in my brain as the one thing that brings me the most nostalgia of any game.
I am half way through the video so idk if he brings up this point but: one of the the things that cod zombies made me do was get INVESTED into history and such. Looking up about the tunguskan event, the guns/weaponry of the times (of the set time frames of each games). It got me so invested in learning about thing, even writing my own little stories but mostly just researching real life things about ww2 etc. Like the bell and such. Just looking up everything I possibly could about ww2, learning about the guns, history of the maps and places they are based on. Thats what the zombies mode also did for me. I learned so much about ww2 just from being inspired to look up fictional (that lead to non fiction type stuff) and non fictional stuff.
One game that I know personally that has a large community that evolved around finding ways to finish a challenge is Destiny 1 and 2 with the raids. Feels most likely the most similar thing to zombies Easter eggs
I think its super important to realize this is a fan revisiting the older cod games they are familiar with and commenting on the newer ones. For example his rating of gorod could be explained by his classic zombies perspective. This could absolutely make a map like gorod very jarring with so much to do and so much visual overload.
As a newer casual player that's going back to 100% COD games as best I can. I just got to BO3. To say it's intimidating is an understatement. The only maps I like are Zet and DE. I absolutely hate GK and Rev. They are so far out there and chaotic that I hate it. Similarly to how he talked about it, I love almost all of the BO1 maps, Mob of the Dead and Origins. I can't wrap my head around on how people like the final 2 maps of BO3 when they are just really bad imo. It just feels like a never ending chore that isn't enjoyable in the slightest
42:15 The only zombies maps I have been genuinely been scared to play are moon and leviathan. The thought of being in a room while it depressurizes always scared the shit outta me lol
Personally i dont think its almost "impossible" to learn/know most and or all about zombies and such as that but more like a language It takes dedication and patience but with enough time put in you can know it almost fluently
4:44 A game that is kinda like this, is Don't Starve, you spawn in a world with no guide and you have to survive. I learned 80% of things to do in the game watching a guide.
I just found this video randomly, and I haven't properly played zombies since black ops 1. Man, I have so much nostalgia for W@W and Blops 1. So much memories
BO2 was the first main EE I ever attempted, me and 1 friend almost completed it but we ran into the glitch where the staffs don't respawn when you die with them. Other than that I've attempted a couple BO3 ones, but I've completed the first WWII map EEs (both difficulties) & some cold war ones.
I agree that back in the day the movement wasn’t as important to Mp but now it’s more important than being able to shoot straight with the slide cancel spam
I’ve been playing zombies since I was about 6 one of my earliest memories is me and my sister playing kino and getting so scared because the zombies were breaking down the windows and I’d have nightmares about them because I just found it so scary and I’ve felt like cod has grown up along side me but it’s just fallen and needs some help to get up
I hope after vanguard they announce that zombies will be ending. Then announcing that they will be releasing Call of Duty: Zombies, as it’s own game. With every single map remastered on it from WaW - Vanguard. Including non trey-arch maps
I think that’s kinda unrealistic. It’s one thing for them to make a game with all the treyarch maps but with all the maps from the other developers too? Idk if that’s possible because different versions of zombies run on different engines and all have slightly different mechanics and systems
54:56 technically blundell did kinda that with each of his maps had a different theme, environment and atmosphere which made them very distinct and unique I remember every feel and theme of his maps because he was building a catalog of stories Now it’s all the same
Black Ops Cold War Zombies....the devs somehow took a concept that was so over the top, so crazy and just completely outrageously funny....and somehow made all of that seem so mundane
I watch lex everyday, new videos, old videos like this one, I love him. But man i swear this dude manages to blast my hears in every single video. There is always some part that fucking kills me. Love you lex bye
1:10:40 I think the point that he was making about Origins wasn't necessarily that it's all been downhill ever since. I think he was just saying that Zombies took a massive sideways shift with Origins that for better or worse can never be undone. It was a seismic shift on the level of Der Riese. BO3 Zombies was built almost entirely on the back of Origins, and both BO4 and Cold War follow the Origins design philosophy of pushing the map's quest to the forefront and trying to build something cohesive out of what had previously been largely creative anarchy. To make an analogy, Origins was like an indie filmmaker's breakthrough hit - it was the Batman Begins to Der Eisendrache's Dark Knight and Mob of the Dead's Memento. Christopher Nolan could never make Memento again after reinventing Batman. His closest attempt was Tenet, but that was still a fundamentally different movie. He made great movies before and he still makes great movies now, but they are fundamentally different because of the weight and budgetary allowances his name now demands. Origins was the point at which Zombies truly became a "mode", and while that allowed for greater time, resources, and marketing to be pumped into the mode, it also arguably led to a greater avoidance of risk, and a definite attempt to smooth off the sharp corners of the mode in the interests of balance and accessibility while simultaneously making the mode "bigger" and supposedly therefore "better". This led to some incredible experiences in BO3 where the greater budget allowed for the gameplay and visuals to become smoother than ever, but it also led to the weirdly misguided and ultimately failed attempt to balance the mode in BO4, and the multiplayerification and arguable soullessness of Cold War, along with the introduction of microtransactions in all post-Origins games. Now that it was a "mode" with real money spent on it, Activision had to find a way to cynically squeeze some more cash out of it while also repeatedly cutting costs midway through development. The shift caused by Origins has both helped and hurt the mode at various points, and it is unlikely that it will ever truly return to the Wild West days of WaW-BO2 Zombies, where it was just a simple zombie killing mode made as an outlet for developers to have full creative freedom in a series mainly known for the iron fist Activision uses to pummel its developers when they stray from what the focus groups tell them. Zombies pre-Origins was just developers going ham and seeing what they could make with one of the simplest possible gameplay loops and the most basic of enemy AI - run at player until dead. All additional elements other than perks and pack-a-punch were subject to change in pretty much every map. Origins changed Easter Eggs from a fun bonus alternate way to play a map into the INTENDED way to play a map, and changed the story from a wacky collection of timey-wimey adventures mostly about 2 crazy German scientists into a single, arguably-cohesive, dramatic, Lovecraftian, multiversal adventure about the nature of identity and free will. Tl, dr: Origins is the point at which it went from a low-budget, horror-comedy about 4 walking stereotypes (applies to both Ultimis and Victis), to the zombies video game equivalent of the MCU. One is not necessarily better or worse than the other, but it's a bit difficult to go backwards, particularly when the latter makes some man in a suit a lot more money.
5:00 there are many games, one that comes to mind is deep jungle from kh1 U have to go everywhere in the world, then u have to do it again whilst killing every enemy in your path I looked up a guide just for that world, then i had to go everywhere a 3rd time because i missed one area
I think Gorod Krovi and stuff maybe would have seemed out of place had it come much earlier. But the slow build up to Moon opened the gateway to going down a crazy route over time. It was a actually a relatively slow burn of weird things until Origins came out and with Origins it opened up the whole new dimension stuff so they were not beholden to being close to "realistic" any more.
I was in elementary school when waw came out and me and dad played zombies alot and with my cousins then I got addicted to zombies and watched zombie TH-camrs yoteslaya mrtlexify mrdarlekjd etc and bought every dlc map I'm now 22 and going to university in a few months I've spent alot of time playing zombies and it was worth it
About the Dark Souls thing. I think it'd be very entertaining and worthwhile to at least play DARK souls 3 before Elden Ring. Love the content as usual Lex
I agree: I think lex would struggle a shit ton if he doesn’t atleast play 1 of the previous games first to kinda get used to the formula and how those games generally work
I’m not gonna lie I’m 22 years old and I still close my eyes whenever I get overwhelmed and downed by the zombies 😂 idk why but I get so scared when they hit me
Without years worth of tutorials, no new player could just hop into zombies (except maybe CW) and be good. Manipulating the tracking and physics to your advantage is a skill that takes so long to develop it stop a lot of new players from joining the community
I mean the games are made to be challenging. If every game was piss easy like Cold War, it would get really boring. And a lot of people don’t even play to be “good”, they just play casually. You can definitely play almost every map casually without a tutorial and for the players that want to get better, they’ll look at the guides.
Thats the whole point of an arcade styled horde mode 🤣.... its about progress and a learning process If people can just hop on and do the EE + round 50 after an hour, the game would be boring a week after the new istallment/dlc drops (kinda happened with CW)
I hope the first vanguard map is just for camo grinding and the rest of the maps go back to the old structure. Honestly huge missed opportunity if they don’t. They need the old structure because it works.
I like the dot dash dot dash map design. It’s not inherently bad. It’s formulaic but formulas come from ideas that work and when executed properly, it’s fantastic. I do however like when they can mix it up here and there with more unique, asymmetrical, creative map layouts that break from the norm/formula. But sometimes simplicity is the way to go. DE is a great example of formula down to perfection.
Bro Internet personalities definitely sway casuals opinions 😂 sometimes y’all hate on maps that honestly aren’t that bad and then the community just shits on it
As much as people hate tranzit and i cant really argue agains it being a technically bad map, it is the absolute best coop/play with friends zombies map of all time. Side Note, this video was great. Bo2 is my favorite zombies game by a mile and mob of the dead is my personal favorite map
Finally someone says it. Tranzit is over hated imo. It’s an ambitious map that tried to push zombies into the next level but couldn’t due to limitations at the time. It also came out at the wrong time, the typical zombie formula that worked needed to keep going for another game or 2 before dropping something like Tranzit where it changes how a typical zombie map is played. Also, yeah it’s super fun with randos/friends.
It's kinda scary knowing that the og zombies team (tank, takeo, Nikolai, and ya boi Ricky) is all gone. It feels like a good chunk of my childhood is gone, I never really thought that it would end, I haven't even bought a cod game since bo4 and I never even played bo4 really. I mean, I can always go back and play the games but it just won't be the same as preordering and staying up all night playing a brand new zombies game. It just makes me sad.
Play dark souls, its a series you will never forget and easily one of the best game franchises ever made period. If you aren't into those types of games, you will still enjoy dark souls, i firmly believe that anyone can enjoy the game as not only is the setting, lore, and scenery masterfully crafted, the gameplay is extremely rewarding and satisfying to an extent that no other game can even compare to. Don't get me wrong, i love all types of games and many hold a special place in my life, but nothing, and i mean nothing will ever top the thrill, exhileration, and just absolute awe that the souls series inspires. I would happily argue that dark souls games are the best games ever made, and i know i am not alone in that conclusion. They are an experience to behold, and a true spectacle. They are one in a million when it comes to games, and one of the few games where the passion, inspiration, and creativity that went into them shines so exceptionally. If only i could be so grossly incandescent. Praise the sun.
funny thing about zombies being apart of our culture think long and hard about this what is more iconic, zombies announcer with power ups/ dog rouds, or the Halo announcer's "double kill triple kill"
Lex could u start playing back 4 blood with TheSmithPlays? I feel like there’s so many things to do in the game and it would be fun to watch instead of waiting for the next zombies game. Also they are gonna keep updating the game and new content is guaranteed to keep coming out and I feel like the game is only getting started and the community is going to keep growing.
Have you gotten a chance to play the remake of demon souls which came before the dark souls trilogy(the original version I mean)? It’s really damn good. It’s one of my favorites from from software
This guy started this year and still has a better tier list than Noah J
Still has a better tier list then chaos
He wasn’t blinded by nostalgia like every other tier list is
@@SaySykesRN very true
@@SaySykesRN very true
@@SaySykesRN especially Chaos, he ranked kino and der reise 1st and 2nd lmao
for someone who states he is a casual, he actually has an excellent grasp of Zombies, and his analysis of the series and maps is thorough and apt. I'm fairly impressed with this guy's perspective
Cold War may not be as amazing as bo3, but it’s innovations and simplicity for beginners are seriously underrated. I know a lot of people who disliked zombies previously actually enjoyed Cold War zombies a lot compared to bo3 - bo4
Yeah the gameplay was awesome, it’s just the map design, Easter eggs, and cutscenes that sucked
I’m a casual and I really like cw I agree bo3 is amazing but cw is that perfect casual beginner game imo
They weren’t trying to make it good for beginners they just wanted all the Warzone players to start playing zombies. that’s why it’s good for those players and complete ass for true zombies players
@@sheeshburger-go4qd the warzone players were the beginners and It may not be as amazing as bo3 but It was better than Vanguard in my opinion
Cold war is what got me into zombies and I have been stuck to zombies since, I only play bo3 and rarely play cold war now. Cold war zombies was aight but the ee were to easy to do. I wish the difficulty was like the first outbreak ee but even with 4 people that still felt easy
The way you just reminisce, talk and mention so many other zombies youtubers makes this video so good. It honestly feels like a video straight out of the Golden age of zombies.
To be truthful, I'm glad we get more different opinions about Zombies map and the difference of players.
@Trade Bum Simmons Bruh
@Trade Bum Simmons You can definitely try something new and learn stuff on the way, its not like you're gonna forget everything
That shows you how great zombies is. There are maps for everyone and everyone has a different set of favorites.
@Trade Bum Simmons If you've played the map more than 1 time you know that lol
@Trade Bum Simmons it’s almost like someone would research a topic when planning to make a project about it
Lex is really the only zombie TH-camr I watch (apart from Tim Hansen and Chrrism)
Black clover is the only anime ive dropped
You poor soul there are many zombies youtubere that rocks
@@timify4523 Eh Lex is the funniest
@@timify4523 these replies kinda rhyme so this is my coc
@@Blveman it says half 6 on the clock
41:19 actual tier list starts
@Jbrito510small brain lol
@Jbrito510 you don’t have the attention span to even watch the full video bro… you might be cooked
Thank u soldier
@Jbrito510 real af bro
Thanks I found what bro was sayin pretty interesting at first and assumed it was just a short intro to give context but when you get fucking 19 minutes in and he still hasn't mentioned the whole point you click on the video you start to get a bit annoyed.
Like bruh I clicked to hear a first players tier list not him waffling for 40 minutes on random unconnected zombie takes.
I was actually going to donate asking you to watch this because the effort that David puts into his video essay's are incredible, so glad you watched this
This is unironically an amazing tier list, this man EXPERIENCED zombies
9:35 I have never felt such anxiety in the span of 10 seconds… imagine your on Kino and you go to Pack-a-Punch. Down while teleporting and as soon as you do… you wake up in Tranzit!
Cool timestamp
@@curbyour____9506 thx bro
Lex skipping the part about cold war is criminal, that litterally the most salient point made in the analysis
Lex is by far in my opinion the best zombies TH-camr, he’s the only zombies TH-camr I still watch, he stays consistent with his theme and vibe for the love of zombies and true understanding of what makes cod zombies nostalgic and a understanding of his fans and interaction with his fans, he’s a big face that still to this day hold strong on the zombies franchise, he’s the reason I got back into zombies, he gave me a re motivation to play zombies again. Cold War zombies in my opinion is a 5/10 it’s ehhh it’s just ehhh to me and vanguard I played like 1 game for like 10 minutes and I was like alright I’m bored, the developers need to really watch these type of videos and really understand what the zombie fans want, yes there is gonna be hate still and a handful of people that are gonna complain and the past few years games are tryna appeal to the new players that don’t know about old zombies, or older games in whatever franchise it is, they need to stick to there old roots they can do new stuff but just stick to creativity and passion, the mystery and enjoyment. Zombies won’t be good again if there not having fun making the game, but if there interacting with the community and enjoying the development of zombies and put passion back into zombies and bring back what made zombies we will see zombies come back!!
I remember when Kino was scary for me, but now, what scares isn't zombies but TikTok.
Fr i remember never turning the power on cause of nova 6 crawlers
What’s TikTok?
Kino has a creepy atmosphere before power is on
@@danskrr,
Don't ask...
I remember a quote from his stream of voyage round 100. "You have a wonder weapon, and a kraken"
They nerfed the mog but the helion literally carried bo4 high rounds 😂😂
Priorities am I right? Fr tho loved the Helion during the time I actually played bo4
@@vilmnil1420 dude I know 😂😂 shotgun is too op but the rocket launcher is just fine. Although it was the first time cod zombies had am actual good rocket launcher
Bo4 was also heavily slept on tbh
@@analteredone9485 there were a lot of ideas that would've made bo4 really great, but for one reason or the other they didn't happen. Obviously there are tons of factors to why things didn't make the cut, so lets leave that alone but I feel as if a lot of the ideas they had could've been executed perfectly given the right time and circumstances.
4:58 Destiny Raids comes close, but ultimately isn’t as complex as the entire point of a raid is to beat it every time. But day one raid runs feel exactly like easter egg hunts. Both searching for mechanics and secrets and fun as hell to do.
This literally came to mind too and also your exact same opinion, like imagine being day 1 atheon, you would have absolutely NO idea what tf to do😭😂 but in the end we will beat that raid 12 times a month, zombie easter eggs we do every once in awhile cause they're so hard
im 5 months late but so glad someone thought of this too
It’s funny to me how lex literlay said “Five is hard as fuck” then immediately says he thinks casuals wouldn’t hate it, Casuals would absolutely HATE it
I'm not a high rounder, I'd say I'm between that and a casual but shi no numa was and still is honestly my favorite waw map and honestly just because of good aesthetic and good map design. I've never not had fun on shi no numa personally
Chat really showing their age not knowing "staves" is the plural for "staff" and roasting him about it lol. Guess they haven't covered that in 6th grade English yet.
bro ive loved David for so long thats hype that hes getting recognition
14:55 What he's speaking about here used to happen to me all the time when I would play chess. The way the peices move, the strategy, I would literally have dreams of these things over and over almost like he said. My brain was engraving chess like moves into real life strategies. It was a very odd but enlightening experience and I'm pretty sure is exactly what lex is talking about only on "zombies movement" context. Not sure if i explained this correctly but I tried. Good day.
24:59 This is exactly why I loved Moon so much on release. Every map was a crazy surprise as to where we'd be, what we'd be doing, and what they'd add. Then DLC 4 rolls around and says "Hey, we wanted to play on the moon, so we made Moon. There are zombies on the fucking moon, have fun."
There was just a completely different energy back then, like we were getting so much more than we ever expected and the devs loved doing it.
I’d really love to know when so many people switched on Revelations I remember when it was the most hated map because it was completely recycled random Easter egg steps and the worst boss fight and it was what treyarch was saying the end of zombies at the time I believe it aged the worst out of all bo3 maps I think it’s just the bo3 nostalgia that has people saying it’s a good map
The easy round 100 probably helps, probably 90% of my games on it were 100 attempts and I don’t really go for them on any other maps.
I love Rev since release, never understood the hate
Agreed. Rev is not a good map. We thought it would be amazing to have a map that has sections of old maps stuck together but it just didn’t flow well in Rev. idk maybe it was implemented poorly on Treyarch’s part.
I still dislike Rev and Shadows but now people act like they're the two best maps in BO3, crazy how opinions change
I liked rev always but I never did the Easter egg so I can't give a full review of it. But I had a lot of fun playing it at the time. though I'd usually only get as far as making the shield, getting masks, pap, etc then just see how long I could survive
Cold War is a top 3 zombies game imo. It was my friends first EE's and it got them confident enough to play BO3 and BO4 EE's with me.
What is your top 3? I’m curious
@@simplysloo8163 Right now I'd say my favourites are BO3, Cold War and BO4
@@mister_wide That's a great top 3
@@Daniel-lr6yz can i ask how old you are? not to hate just genuinely curious
Have you played WAW, BO1, or BO2?
I like how it took youtubers to hate on tranzit for the community to hate on tranzit yet this guy who never played zombies before instantly sees the bad gameplay of tranzit
1:20:30 “it insists upon itself” only the realest know
The feeling of being a god in multiplayer is an absolute blast, your unstoppable, grounding up bodies around you while you destroy people with you flying machine and dogs.
I almost had a 3 KD in BO1 and It was still my favorite multiplayer to this day.
The map design I noticed is similar to the one he says, I see it as more a "rule of three" where you have the start area which then branches out to 3 main areas. This really only works in some maps, but the maps that it works on are usually ranked high; Der Reise, Shadows, GK, Shi No(which isn't ranked high), Ascension, etc.
Shi no numa has 4 areas.
@@fazestepbro49 oops, we can ignore that one
@@toxicsnowball2222 lol
This is why Mob is such an amazing map:
- 3 distinct areas (the prison itself, the docks/catacomb area, and the bridge)
- 3 Cerberus heads to feed
- 3 major upgrades to obtain (Acid gat, Retriever, spoon/spork)
- 3 traps spread out evenly
- An achievement for making it to the bridge 3 times in one game
- Shield and acid kit requiring 3 parts
- Most areas with afterlife having 3 realistically do-able power meters to charge (i.e warden key, door, double points)
The rule of 3 is in nearly every part of any great zombies map.
Zombies in Spaceland
My first memory of gaming was bo2 town with my brothers when I was 8. 8 years later and it is still lodged in my brain as the one thing that brings me the most nostalgia of any game.
I am half way through the video so idk if he brings up this point but: one of the the things that cod zombies made me do was get INVESTED into history and such. Looking up about the tunguskan event, the guns/weaponry of the times (of the set time frames of each games). It got me so invested in learning about thing, even writing my own little stories but mostly just researching real life things about ww2 etc. Like the bell and such. Just looking up everything I possibly could about ww2, learning about the guns, history of the maps and places they are based on. Thats what the zombies mode also did for me. I learned so much about ww2 just from being inspired to look up fictional (that lead to non fiction type stuff) and non fictional stuff.
One game that I know personally that has a large community that evolved around finding ways to finish a challenge is Destiny 1 and 2 with the raids. Feels most likely the most similar thing to zombies Easter eggs
I think its super important to realize this is a fan revisiting the older cod games they are familiar with and commenting on the newer ones. For example his rating of gorod could be explained by his classic zombies perspective. This could absolutely make a map like gorod very jarring with so much to do and so much visual overload.
Probably copium, but hey I’m smoking that too
As a newer casual player that's going back to 100% COD games as best I can. I just got to BO3. To say it's intimidating is an understatement. The only maps I like are Zet and DE. I absolutely hate GK and Rev. They are so far out there and chaotic that I hate it. Similarly to how he talked about it, I love almost all of the BO1 maps, Mob of the Dead and Origins. I can't wrap my head around on how people like the final 2 maps of BO3 when they are just really bad imo. It just feels like a never ending chore that isn't enjoyable in the slightest
calling GK bad is a literal crime, theres nothing bad about that map. Its more simple than you think@@MrMusic6336
Hey thanks for taking a look at my video, dude!
42:15 The only zombies maps I have been genuinely been scared to play are moon and leviathan. The thought of being in a room while it depressurizes always scared the shit outta me lol
moon actually scares me the flashing lights and the sounds i feel anxiety
1:10:15
“I think I can make an entire TH-cam video on origins”
Lex- “you can make an entire TH-cam channel, it’s called thesmithplays” 😂😂
Personally i dont think its almost "impossible" to learn/know most and or all about zombies and such as that but more like a language
It takes dedication and patience but with enough time put in you can know it almost fluently
4:44 A game that is kinda like this, is Don't Starve, you spawn in a world with no guide and you have to survive. I learned 80% of things to do in the game watching a guide.
I personally liked cold war and appreciate it more now since vanguard dropped
Bro we appreciate everything more since vanguard dropped
@@wero2661 fact
I would rather bleed from my rectum than play vanguard
I’d rather play extinction
@@primsiren1740 I would rather play roblox zombies than vanguard rn
I just found this video randomly, and I haven't properly played zombies since black ops 1. Man, I have so much nostalgia for W@W and Blops 1. So much memories
BO2 was the first main EE I ever attempted, me and 1 friend almost completed it but we ran into the glitch where the staffs don't respawn when you die with them. Other than that I've attempted a couple BO3 ones, but I've completed the first WWII map EEs (both difficulties) & some cold war ones.
I agree that back in the day the movement wasn’t as important to Mp but now it’s more important than being able to shoot straight with the slide cancel spam
15:03 I can imagine him screaming as he runs in circle
The voice crack of the TH-camr in the background was criminal at 22:23 🤣🤣🤣
3:36 double salute while saying “elite” 😂😂😂
I’ve been playing zombies since I was about 6 one of my earliest memories is me and my sister playing kino and getting so scared because the zombies were breaking down the windows and I’d have nightmares about them because I just found it so scary and I’ve felt like cod has grown up along side me but it’s just fallen and needs some help to get up
Mob was the map that got me into the storyline and doing the easter eggs.
id love a new map with the horror aspect, i love love love verrukt and zns
I hope after vanguard they announce that zombies will be ending. Then announcing that they will be releasing Call of Duty: Zombies, as it’s own game. With every single map remastered on it from WaW - Vanguard. Including non trey-arch maps
I think that’s kinda unrealistic. It’s one thing for them to make a game with all the treyarch maps but with all the maps from the other developers too? Idk if that’s possible because different versions of zombies run on different engines and all have slightly different mechanics and systems
yeah no
Preach
Bruh why would you wanna include vanguard maps in a stand alone game?
54:56 technically blundell did kinda that with each of his maps had a different theme, environment and atmosphere which made them very distinct and unique
I remember every feel and theme of his maps because he was building a catalog of stories
Now it’s all the same
Black Ops Cold War Zombies....the devs somehow took a concept that was so over the top, so crazy and just completely outrageously funny....and somehow made all of that seem so mundane
I fell asleep while listening to this and it was a whole ass journey in my dream
I watch lex everyday, new videos, old videos like this one, I love him. But man i swear this dude manages to blast my hears in every single video. There is always some part that fucking kills me.
Love you lex bye
I agree with his placement of shi no numa in bad. It is the only zombies map that makes you feel alone but not in a scary way
1:10:40 I think the point that he was making about Origins wasn't necessarily that it's all been downhill ever since. I think he was just saying that Zombies took a massive sideways shift with Origins that for better or worse can never be undone. It was a seismic shift on the level of Der Riese. BO3 Zombies was built almost entirely on the back of Origins, and both BO4 and Cold War follow the Origins design philosophy of pushing the map's quest to the forefront and trying to build something cohesive out of what had previously been largely creative anarchy.
To make an analogy, Origins was like an indie filmmaker's breakthrough hit - it was the Batman Begins to Der Eisendrache's Dark Knight and Mob of the Dead's Memento. Christopher Nolan could never make Memento again after reinventing Batman. His closest attempt was Tenet, but that was still a fundamentally different movie. He made great movies before and he still makes great movies now, but they are fundamentally different because of the weight and budgetary allowances his name now demands.
Origins was the point at which Zombies truly became a "mode", and while that allowed for greater time, resources, and marketing to be pumped into the mode, it also arguably led to a greater avoidance of risk, and a definite attempt to smooth off the sharp corners of the mode in the interests of balance and accessibility while simultaneously making the mode "bigger" and supposedly therefore "better". This led to some incredible experiences in BO3 where the greater budget allowed for the gameplay and visuals to become smoother than ever, but it also led to the weirdly misguided and ultimately failed attempt to balance the mode in BO4, and the multiplayerification and arguable soullessness of Cold War, along with the introduction of microtransactions in all post-Origins games. Now that it was a "mode" with real money spent on it, Activision had to find a way to cynically squeeze some more cash out of it while also repeatedly cutting costs midway through development.
The shift caused by Origins has both helped and hurt the mode at various points, and it is unlikely that it will ever truly return to the Wild West days of WaW-BO2 Zombies, where it was just a simple zombie killing mode made as an outlet for developers to have full creative freedom in a series mainly known for the iron fist Activision uses to pummel its developers when they stray from what the focus groups tell them. Zombies pre-Origins was just developers going ham and seeing what they could make with one of the simplest possible gameplay loops and the most basic of enemy AI - run at player until dead. All additional elements other than perks and pack-a-punch were subject to change in pretty much every map. Origins changed Easter Eggs from a fun bonus alternate way to play a map into the INTENDED way to play a map, and changed the story from a wacky collection of timey-wimey adventures mostly about 2 crazy German scientists into a single, arguably-cohesive, dramatic, Lovecraftian, multiversal adventure about the nature of identity and free will.
Tl, dr: Origins is the point at which it went from a low-budget, horror-comedy about 4 walking stereotypes (applies to both Ultimis and Victis), to the zombies video game equivalent of the MCU. One is not necessarily better or worse than the other, but it's a bit difficult to go backwards, particularly when the latter makes some man in a suit a lot more money.
5:00 there are many games, one that comes to mind is deep jungle from kh1
U have to go everywhere in the world, then u have to do it again whilst killing every enemy in your path
I looked up a guide just for that world, then i had to go everywhere a 3rd time because i missed one area
Bo1: "what are the numbers mason"
Bo2: MENENDEZ
Bo3: train go boom
Campaigns in a nutshell
I think Gorod Krovi and stuff maybe would have seemed out of place had it come much earlier. But the slow build up to Moon opened the gateway to going down a crazy route over time. It was a actually a relatively slow burn of weird things until Origins came out and with Origins it opened up the whole new dimension stuff so they were not beholden to being close to "realistic" any more.
I love Tranzit so much. Tranzit and Buried and Kino are prolly my favorites.
I was in elementary school when waw came out and me and dad played zombies alot and with my cousins then I got addicted to zombies and watched zombie TH-camrs yoteslaya mrtlexify mrdarlekjd etc and bought every dlc map I'm now 22 and going to university in a few months I've spent alot of time playing zombies and it was worth it
About the Dark Souls thing. I think it'd be very entertaining and worthwhile to at least play DARK souls 3 before Elden Ring. Love the content as usual Lex
I agree: I think lex would struggle a shit ton if he doesn’t atleast play 1 of the previous games first to kinda get used to the formula and how those games generally work
Idea for cod devs-
Keep making fun modes you come up with for fun and release it as a new mode if u don’t have zombies or spec ops
I tried to play the bo3 campaign yesterday. I now remember why it’s one of the 2 campaigns I never finished (of the games I’ve played)
Lex: this is a great tier list, damn bro
GK shows up:
Lex: this man is as bad as noah j
we play zombies to have fun and sometimes to play a good game;
we play the souls series to have fun and play some of if not the best games of all time
These longer videos are soo chill
49:00 Staves 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 and lex saying it too, omg one of funniest moments ever watching lex
It’s the plural of staff?
I’m not gonna lie I’m 22 years old and I still close my eyes whenever I get overwhelmed and downed by the zombies 😂 idk why but I get so scared when they hit me
I just recently played all the dark souls/from software last year and it has been on of the best gaming experiences of my life. Totally worth it.
Zombies was what got me good at multiplayer honestly. Got aim from mp and got movement from zombies.
Without years worth of tutorials, no new player could just hop into zombies (except maybe CW) and be good. Manipulating the tracking and physics to your advantage is a skill that takes so long to develop it stop a lot of new players from joining the community
I mean the games are made to be challenging. If every game was piss easy like Cold War, it would get really boring. And a lot of people don’t even play to be “good”, they just play casually. You can definitely play almost every map casually without a tutorial and for the players that want to get better, they’ll look at the guides.
Waw and bo1
@@vryyyx so true, zombies should be hard at the start and eventually get easier
Thats the whole point of an arcade styled horde mode 🤣.... its about progress and a learning process
If people can just hop on and do the EE + round 50 after an hour, the game would be boring a week after the new istallment/dlc drops (kinda happened with CW)
@@thesenate4743 true
I hope the first vanguard map is just for camo grinding and the rest of the maps go back to the old structure. Honestly huge missed opportunity if they don’t. They need the old structure because it works.
Yea that survival aspect makes black ops zombies fun. Didn't realize it till this vid. Why it's so repayable cuz it's hard to survive
5:10 Bro I do the same even I’m supposed to be study,My ass of here in stead trying to remember origins EE steps lol
Well I meant STUDYING but who cares
what I get from this. Lex's opinions and sub-sequentially skill is that if a new player.
I grew up loving Shi no numa, and I would consider myself more of a casual zombie player.
I like the dot dash dot dash map design. It’s not inherently bad. It’s formulaic but formulas come from ideas that work and when executed properly, it’s fantastic. I do however like when they can mix it up here and there with more unique, asymmetrical, creative map layouts that break from the norm/formula. But sometimes simplicity is the way to go. DE is a great example of formula down to perfection.
"i dont agree that internet personalities dictate the hive mind"
ah yes, so says the internet personality
if you think about it, the thing that started one of our favorite things all started with the very thing that is now a staple in the mode.
"Why did I study for the origins easter egg quest more than 90% of all school exams" I feel called out
I've been playing WWII Zombies and I am absolutely loving it. It's gotta be my top five favorite C.o.D Zombies games; especially The Final Reich map.
At 32:47 my heart hurts. I always shot the bonfire from the window to the left of the vase. I feel like I definitely made my life harder.
I tried doing the origins EE solo in 2015 and it took me a little over a year to get it done
All I remember from bo3 campaign is “train go boom”
Lex you should do a tier list of other zombie you tubers tier lists. We all know NoahJ would be s tier
47:52 it doesn’t turn into the mustang and sally on waw 😭😂
Chaos is shaking his head at the placement of kino
Bro Internet personalities definitely sway casuals opinions 😂 sometimes y’all hate on maps that honestly aren’t that bad and then the community just shits on it
Getting sprayed with water in the boys changing room was worth it for this
1:10:08 As someone who got into the Zombies community Via Pat, I found this joke really funny.
As much as people hate tranzit and i cant really argue agains it being a technically bad map, it is the absolute best coop/play with friends zombies map of all time. Side Note, this video was great. Bo2 is my favorite zombies game by a mile and mob of the dead is my personal favorite map
Finally someone says it. Tranzit is over hated imo. It’s an ambitious map that tried to push zombies into the next level but couldn’t due to limitations at the time. It also came out at the wrong time, the typical zombie formula that worked needed to keep going for another game or 2 before dropping something like Tranzit where it changes how a typical zombie map is played. Also, yeah it’s super fun with randos/friends.
It's kinda scary knowing that the og zombies team (tank, takeo, Nikolai, and ya boi Ricky) is all gone. It feels like a good chunk of my childhood is gone, I never really thought that it would end, I haven't even bought a cod game since bo4 and I never even played bo4 really. I mean, I can always go back and play the games but it just won't be the same as preordering and staying up all night playing a brand new zombies game. It just makes me sad.
Play dark souls, its a series you will never forget and easily one of the best game franchises ever made period. If you aren't into those types of games, you will still enjoy dark souls, i firmly believe that anyone can enjoy the game as not only is the setting, lore, and scenery masterfully crafted, the gameplay is extremely rewarding and satisfying to an extent that no other game can even compare to. Don't get me wrong, i love all types of games and many hold a special place in my life, but nothing, and i mean nothing will ever top the thrill, exhileration, and just absolute awe that the souls series inspires. I would happily argue that dark souls games are the best games ever made, and i know i am not alone in that conclusion. They are an experience to behold, and a true spectacle. They are one in a million when it comes to games, and one of the few games where the passion, inspiration, and creativity that went into them shines so exceptionally. If only i could be so grossly incandescent. Praise the sun.
I just watched 16 minutes of a guy basically read and essay about zombies and he hasn’t even gotten into listing the maps😭😂
funny thing about zombies being apart of our culture think long and hard about this what is more iconic, zombies announcer with power ups/ dog rouds, or the Halo announcer's "double kill triple kill"
What would you consider extinction? From ghost
Lex you need to finish this video my jaw dropped
Lex could u start playing back 4 blood with TheSmithPlays? I feel like there’s so many things to do in the game and it would be fun to watch instead of waiting for the next zombies game. Also they are gonna keep updating the game and new content is guaranteed to keep coming out and I feel like the game is only getting started and the community is going to keep growing.
ive had an amazing custom map ideas since a kid and now realizing that my old idea is still better than the current zombies style... its crazy
5:13 everyone here felt that
id love if you streamed dark souls. 1&3 are god tier
Have you gotten a chance to play the remake of demon souls which came before the dark souls trilogy(the original version I mean)? It’s really damn good. It’s one of my favorites from from software
2 is also great stop downplaying it
BO2 Is 100% my fave zombies game. All four dlc maps are in my top 5 maps of all time lol